[01:47:45] did vector go away? [01:48:06] just got an error that I have no vector skin installed [01:52:23] Hi wmat. [01:52:34] If you're running master, you'll need to tweak your wiki. [01:53:10] i am, but what do you mean? [01:53:37] $wgDefaultSkin is set [01:54:07] wmat: hi. I could find this message: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-August/077996.html . MatmaRex needs to write documentation for what he did. [01:54:15] actually, i think i'm having db access issues [01:54:24] hi svetlana3 [01:54:26] yes, i do :( [01:54:37] MatmaRex: so far you wrote instructions which the wiki displays. [01:54:46] wmat: have you read the big yellow message that has been displayed? [01:54:51] documentation would be nice to have all the faq in it too. [01:55:05] svetlana3: i also updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration [01:55:21] MatmaRex: big yellow msg? [01:55:27] :-D [01:55:37] svetlana3: i need to update 1.24 release notes, and probably some git setup instructions [01:55:54] wmat: yeah. the one that says that vector isn't installed [01:56:05] oh, unless you're actually seeing some different issue [01:56:45] Is it possible in a Lua module to access parameters given in the URL? [01:56:49] MatmaRex: I think I may be experiencing something else [01:57:14] aight [01:57:58] as i changed nothing [01:59:48] zzo38, that doesn't seem like a good idea [01:59:59] zzo38: not possible [02:00:06] zzo38, you could have a parser cache hit for something with a different URL [02:00:55] MatmaRex, what about the upgrade manual? the lots of people who upgrade and see a message? or is that not a problem? [02:01:26] I am trying to workaround a problem in Orain [02:01:50] zzo38: what problem is that? [02:02:08] svetlana3: it should probably be mentioned somewhere, yeah. but the message that MW itself displays to the user in that case should be enough [02:02:11] Can it be done using normal templates or interwiki somehow? [02:02:20] The problem is that the CAPTCHA for external links does not work. [02:02:25] svetlana3: basically, it displays the lines of code you need to put in LocalSettings.php to make it work again [02:02:39] MatmaRex, at least release notes? yes you already mentioned them. nice and thanks in advance :) [02:02:47] zzo38: for adding them? you can't fix that with any parser-related stuff [02:02:48] (along with other information) [02:02:56] nod [02:03:22] yes, i need to document that, i just haven't gotten around to it yet [02:03:40] see the last paragraph of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68402#c3 :) [02:03:42] :-) [02:04:30] can i ask whether you do javascript? are you active on a small wikimedia project? need some script testing by a folk, then as a gadget on small scale [02:04:35] Well, it seems that URLs to other things that are part of the wiki (such as the history) do work [02:07:01] zzo38: what was your plan to fix them? [02:07:35] So I want to see if maybe Special:TemplateSandbox can be used or something like that [02:07:52] However, I do not quite understand how the template sandbox is supposed to work. [02:08:15] zzo38: i still don't understand what the problem or your solution are [02:11:29] You cannot add external links because the CAPTCHA is broken. However, it seems that URL links for history and so on are working OK [02:12:06] For one thing, how exactly does the template sandbox work? I am not understanding what I am supposed to do with it. [02:13:20] it lets you see how changes to a template look on another page [02:13:30] hmmm, it's like my site's css all went away :/ [02:15:01] wmat: did you manually install and enable Vector? [02:15:37] jackmcbarn: yeah. I can see it on the Version page. http://elinux.org/Special:Version [02:15:50] wmat: i get "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." there [02:16:48] yeah, i get that intermitently. I think there's db server issues going on at the host. [02:17:38] wmat: are core and Vector both latest head? [02:17:53] jackmcbarn: yes [02:18:13] wmat: i see part of the problem. when the stylesheets try to load, they get the technical difficulties message instead of the styles [02:18:20] wmat: also, have you ran update.php lately? [02:18:36] jackmcbarn: yes, minutes ago. I'll try again though. [02:19:41] same result [02:20:39] wmat: in that case, bug your host to find out what's with the errors. i bet when they're fixed, you'll get styles [02:20:57] jackmcbarn: in process ;) [02:21:10] O, OK I see how it is working now. [02:21:32] jackmcbarn: the OSUOSL folks are all away right now it seems [02:32:34] How can I make base64 decoding in a MediaWiki lua module? [02:32:54] zzo38: just grab any random lua implementation of it and drop it in [02:34:08] jackmcbarn, not in a library? [02:34:37] jeremyb: no [02:36:06] yeah, don't see it in the stdlib on 40 secs of searching [02:37:33] so, http://lua-users.org/wiki/BaseSixtyFour or https://github.com/toastdriven/lua-base64 [02:47:39] Is there a way for a Lua program on MediaWiki to check how long ago the page it is invoked on has been edited? [02:47:51] zzo38: yes [02:48:10] How? [02:48:13] call the same magic word you do from wikitext [02:48:25] frame:callParserFunction('REVISIONTIMESTAMP') [02:49:06] OK. Should os.timediff then be used, or what? [02:49:34] i don't know offhand if the format is right, but if it works then go for it [02:50:37] Would it work then to have a module that expands into "(TIMELOCKED)" if less than five seconds have passed since the page is last edited, or into an external link made by base64 decoding its parameter if more than five seconds have passed? Would that bypass the broken CAPTCHA? [02:51:07] oh, if you just want to bypass the captcha, that's easy [02:51:17] let me code it up real quick [02:56:13] zzo38: put what i pm'd you in a template [02:56:20] say Template:Bypass [02:56:27] then to add a link, do {{subst:bypass|whatever}} [02:57:25] Can you explain its working? [02:58:04] i don't understand [02:58:11] you still can't use GET params, right? [02:58:15] right [02:58:16] OK thanks [03:00:16] But will that work since the link will then be a part of the page source? [03:00:35] zzo38: yes. mediawiki isn't smart enough to see links in the source. it can only see them in the output [03:00:58] and since they're not in the output when you hit save, it lets you save. then when they get added later, it's helpless [03:01:00] OK; I thought it would see them in both. [03:01:56] Thank you [03:02:23] so, what's the content of {{bypass}} then? [03:03:29] see pm [03:03:40] i'd rather not let everyone know, since it can be used to bypass any wiki's spam blacklist [03:05:52] Bypassing the spam blacklist is trivial. [03:06:07] for us it is because we know the parser. not every spammer has to know how [03:06:27] Carmela: yes, but we'd prefer those who don't understand how that's so not know how to do it [03:07:10] Relying on security through obscurity? Brilliant. [03:07:26] Carmela: i tried to fix that hole. it didn't go well [03:07:31] It doesn't seem to work. [03:07:43] why don't we just fix that bug? [03:07:43] how so? [03:07:53] jeremyb: it doubles traffic across memcached [03:08:01] huh? [03:08:10] link for didn't go well? [03:08:27] jeremyb: i sorta-fixed it once, but when it got to production it got emergency-reverted because checking the blacklist every parse kills performance so badly [03:08:36] zzo38: can you link to your wiki? [03:09:01] It isn't *my* wiki; it is Orain, and they have a broken CAPTCHA. [03:09:10] For that reason I am unable to fix the broen CAPTCHA. [03:09:12] jackmcbarn, doesn't just need to check on save? [03:09:17] ohhh [03:09:21] jeremyb: no. the fact that it does is the bug [03:09:22] jackmcbarn, i'm so silly :) [03:09:58] Here it is; see that it doesn't work? https://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/User:Zzo38 [03:09:58] zzo38: can you link to the specific orain wiki i mean? [03:10:18] midair collision [03:10:29] (I got someone to manually add an account for me so that I can even edit pages at all.) [03:10:37] that wiki is s...l...o...w... [03:10:50] zzo38: you need to subst it [03:10:57] O, OK sorry [03:10:58] {{subst:BypassLink instead of {{BypassLink [03:11:09] Thank you [03:11:12] jackmcbarn, still, what's the gerrit/svn link? [03:11:20] * jackmcbarn digs for it [03:11:23] was there an actual outage? [03:11:33] or was it caught e.g. at beta? [03:11:56] jeremyb: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/122283/ [03:12:03] it got caught shortly after it hit enwiki [03:12:07] Well, it almost worked [03:12:19] hah, enwiki is the big test [03:12:38] oh, you forgot the square brackets [03:12:42] you still need them, even with the template [03:13:15] Yes, that is just what I did now, then. [03:13:21] It works now. [03:13:35] note that that is rather messy. you should really bug orain to fix the captcha [03:14:04] Yes, especially since it uses subst, it is messy. [03:14:36] {{#ifeq:{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}|{{ {{{|safesubst:}}}CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}|[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} #Purge#]|{{{1|}}}}} [03:14:44] Since the broken CAPTCHA displays if I then try to edit it afterward unless I put back the subst [03:15:56] zzo38: ok, it's a little harder to fix that. let me give you the url [03:16:33] OK [03:17:04] zzo38: go to https://allthetropes.orain.org/w/api.php?action=purge&format=json&forcelinkupdate=&titles=User:Zzo38 [03:17:08] then you should be able to edit it again [03:17:11] You're going to lock people out of these pages... [03:17:22] When they try to subsequently edit. [03:17:31] Carmela: that's what the forcelinkupdate fixes [03:17:45] I don't follow. [03:18:03] Well, I guess the spam blacklist is less cruel now. [03:18:05] after the forcelinkupdate, mediawiki sees that external link is already there, so it won't lock them out when it sees it again [03:18:06] It only checks additions. [03:18:09] yeah [03:18:10] It used to check the whole page. [03:18:27] also, it's possible to abuse the spamblacklist to keep certain users from editing pages [03:19:15] OK, then is it possible to make it access that URL when the #Purge# link is selected? [03:19:57] I notice that it has "titles" instead of "title" [03:20:01] yes [03:20:48] Or would that not work? [03:21:37] zzo38: try changing the template to this: {{#ifeq:{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}|{{ {{{|safesubst:}}}CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}|[https://allthetropes.orain.org/w/api.php?action=purge&format=json&forcelinkupdate=&titles={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} #Purge#]|{{{1|}}}}} [03:21:57] OK thankyou [05:56:35] hi, i have some netwrok problems, in which irc i should ask? [06:01:14] sasan, depends what you mean... if you want to talk to people about freenode itself then #freenode [06:01:38] no, about Red5 software [06:01:42] i want to run it [06:01:46] for webinar [06:02:40] well how did you find us? [06:03:21] what? [06:03:32] i found you on your website [06:03:39] i find them [06:03:46] on their website [06:03:51] but they did not answer [06:04:12] i just want to ask ir [06:04:28] well you're not even in their channel now at all [06:04:44] so how could they answer (if they had shown up)? [06:04:51] no, i was in their irc [06:04:56] right [06:04:59] but no answer, never answer my question [06:05:00] you're not there now though [06:05:20] after no answer, i decide to ask you some other irc [06:05:25] which may help me? [06:08:09] sasan, no, we can't help you. but at the very least you should be in their channel. not *only* in the wrong channel [06:12:35] anyway, i give up [06:43:06] hello. is it possible to show transcluded "Recent changes" showing only new edits but not new user registrations? [07:30:56] "Error: 8 attempt to write a readonly database" when running update script [07:31:07] who does it think i am? it's an sqlite file, it's not readonly [07:46:55] FastLizard4: hi. [07:47:02] Hello [07:47:05] pginer: hi. [07:47:14] FastLizard4: any clue on my last question? [07:47:26] hi svetlana [07:47:39] I'd say check the permissions on the SQLite files [07:47:50] FastLizard4: -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 1357824 Aug 11 16:53 /home/user/wikidata/my_wiki.sqlite [07:47:52] Aside from that, I'm not really familiar with SQLite, so I'm afraid there's not much assistance I can render [07:47:54] Sorry [07:47:55] FastLizard4: what do I do with that? [07:48:10] What do you do with what? [07:48:39] The permissions look right, if that's what you're asking [07:49:56] FastLizard4: I'm running update script from shell from a different user than 'www-data'. [07:50:08] That would be your problem then [07:50:18] that user can't /write/ to the sqlite file. how am I supposed to solve it? [07:50:51] svetlana: switch to the www-data user [07:51:16] Either run the update script as root (which is what I do, but may not be good advice), run it as www-data (which is better advice but mildly more difficult), or `chown` the file to your user [07:51:18] Leaving the group as www-data [07:51:25] greg-g: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Update.php does not tell me that? [07:52:25] greg-g: trying to "sudo su - www-data" tells me about ``This account is currently not available.''. [07:52:53] or change the perms to allow writing by others, are you on a shared host? [07:53:13] svetlana: do `sudo -u www-data php update.php` [07:54:07] This will use sudo to run the program, but instead of elevating to root, it will run it as www-data [07:54:32] This is often necessary when the www-data account is disabled, as it should be [07:54:39] (Disabled as in no user can actually use it) [08:02:23] FastLizard4: ah right [08:05:44] FastLizard4: works. thanks [08:08:17] svetlana: No problem :) [08:08:20] greg-g: It's one of those things :P [09:46:38] hi [09:47:07] why you have 10em width for logo instead of real pixels size? [09:48:11] when i have smaller font sizz in browser, logo is cut ;\ [09:48:24] i don't think this is correct. [09:49:22] morsik: thanks. [09:49:29] morsik: would you like to file a bug? [09:50:16] yeah. i'm creating account right now [09:50:43] i discovered this right now, cause our company installed new mediawiki and added new logo which is 160px, my font size is 14 [09:50:50] and 10em = 140px instead of 160px [09:51:16] it's not visible on wikipedia sites for me, cause wikipedia logo has 135px so still smaller than 140 :P [10:55:09] Is there any way to make the newsfeed extension show pages by the order of their creation date and not by the order of the last edit date? [11:02:45] and "the newsfeed extension" is......? [11:10:47] andre__: the news feed extension is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:News [11:18:46] I have a question regarding skinning [11:19:00] I would like my wiki's sidebar to display a list of links [11:19:14] and these links should be fetched from a Template page [11:19:20] is that possible? [11:19:32] right now it is hardcoded in the skin page, and that's pretty ugly : ( [11:27:51] oh nevermind [11:27:55] it's Mediawiki:sidebar [12:31:32] Hi, I need some help with Visual Editor installation in Ubuntu, i've followed all the manuals but in the end the "Edit" button isn't responding. [12:34:50] does it show any error? [12:34:56] try looking at web browser's error console [12:43:33] hi svetlana i don't see any error it just not responding [12:43:42] it look like the bug that was in 1.23.1 i saw it on the bug tracker [12:43:50] but i'm running on latests VE and latest MW [12:43:59] you can connect internalwiki.cloudapp.net it's public for now [12:44:02] any error in apache? i didnt follow things lately specifically, so i wouldn't know about recent bugs [12:44:51] what did you do with parsoid? [12:45:12] I've followed this tutroail: http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/VisualEditor [12:45:25] installed it throught apt-get [12:46:35] did you install VisualEditor via git or are you using the manual tarball snapshot? [12:47:24] ah i see the guide [12:47:32] when you do "more /var/log/parsoid/parsoid.log " then what happens? [12:48:58] Hi guys. Do you know a way to obtain a link to a specific bullet list point? I don't know this feature is possible. [12:49:36] If the bullet list contains an HTML id, you can use a #fragment. [12:50:06]

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[12:50:15] shaikatz: you gave it a $wgVisualEditorParsoidURL in local settings ? [12:50:35] yes [12:50:47] $wgVisualEditorParsoidURL = 'http://localhost:8000'; [12:51:00] curl http://localhost:8000 - works [12:51:44] here is the output of the more on parsoid.log [12:51:45] master(1186) initializing 4 workers - worker(1236) loading... - worker(1237) loading... - worker(1238) loading... - worker(1235) loading... - worker(1235) ready on :8142 - worker(1238) ready on :8142 - worker(1237) ready on :8142 - worker(1236) ready on :8142 [12:53:19] Carmela: Yep for sure, by using HTML tags directly, but how to achieve this feature when we are restricted to use MediaWiki syntax like * My bullet point? [12:57:56] You can insert an anchor manually. [12:58:02] Or you can use HTML for the list items. [12:58:11] So either

. [12:58:14] Instead of * foo. [12:58:35] Or

in the page somewhere. [13:00:25] Carmela: Ok, I'm gonna create a anchor manually then. Hope a community bot won't remove this HTML syntax... [13:00:28] thanls [13:00:29] *ks [13:01:20] If you're editing a large site such as the English Wikipedia, there's probably a wrapper template. [13:01:23] Such as {{anchor|foo}}. [13:01:24] shaikatz: apparently it tries to find jquery but fails, among other things. [13:01:51] shaikatz: GET http://internalwiki.cloudapp.net/skins/Vector/skinStyles/jquery.ui/jquery.ui.core.css [HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found 357ms] -- got that by visiting index.php/Main_Page?debug=true . [13:03:19] but i've download the whole Vector folder from the source how can something be missing there? [13:03:32] Sorry but I have to go now thanks for the help i'll come back in the evning to get a help . [13:04:33] ok, good luck :) [13:06:52] good morning, wikifolks [13:07:36] davexunit: good morning. [13:08:59] svetlana: always good to see people from #guix on other channels :) [13:09:28] ah. yes. thanks. :) [13:55:43] Hi, I downloaded media wiki how do i login to the backend [13:55:45] ? [14:01:07] is it possible to have page specific favicons? [14:01:13] jakey2: Hi! [14:01:23] jakey2: What do you mean, "backend" - the database? [14:01:38] wmat: In general, yes - in MediaWiki maybe not. :) [14:01:55] wmat: [14:02:45] LocalSettings has an option for an icon [14:02:54] But only one [14:03:04] You could maybe add a parser function/magic word [14:03:11] Actually that could be fun... :) [14:03:18] yeah, i was thinking a parserfunction [14:03:32] I'm not sure sticking a in the body will do it [14:03:42] no, i don't think it will [14:03:43] LogoFunctions seemed to have changed only the logo... [14:03:44] But a parser function means you can dump something in the head [14:07:23] hi world, i d like to delete user form my mediawiki instance (1.23.2) i can't find the proper way to do this i see an extension but it seems to be deprecated > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Deleteuser [14:07:26] thanks for any help [14:08:31] Hi, I was wondering what is the coding convention for MW plugins regarding tabs/spaces for indentation? [14:08:57] On this page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions , it says first to use "a single tab", but then the vim config line suggested, sets vim up to use spaces?! [14:09:02] Very confusing indeed [14:18:28] marktraceur; i mean administrator mode [14:19:26] jakey2: You just log in using the account you created during installation. [14:19:28] !install [14:19:28] Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [14:20:07] zechfdf: Usually deleting information entirely isn't The Wiki Way :) [14:20:19] zechfdf: You can block them and use the Nuke extension to delete any pages they made [14:20:27] or rename the account [14:20:48] samuell_: Usually tabs. [14:21:26] samuell_: If you want to be explicit about the vim config, add "noexpandtab" to the end of the line there [14:22:24] marktraceur, Ok, thanks for info! [14:22:52] No problem :) [14:38:23] marktraceur; the url of wikipedia is like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup mine is like this http://www.chess.opensophia.org/index.php?title=Chess, how do i change it to look more neat after the / [14:38:36] !shorturl | jakey2 [14:38:36] jakey2: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [14:38:47] thanks [14:38:54] "new beta tool" surely it's been around for several years at this point... [14:39:58] does a newer beta tool exist? [14:40:16] I doubt it [14:40:34] But this is like UploadWizard - I think we took out the "CHECK OUT OUR SUPER COOL NEW UPLOADER" string [14:40:37] then it should be fine as is now :P [14:40:41] Yeah. [15:22:31] how do i remove the grey in the background of wikimedia which file is it in? [15:33:40] !wikipmediawiki | jakey2 [15:33:40] jakey2: Confused about the differences between MediaWiki, Wikimedia, Wikipedia and wiki? See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipmediawiki [15:33:49] jakey2: I assume you mean MediaWiki. [15:34:07] yep [15:35:55] so on mediawiki i want to get rid of the grey back ground [15:36:01] which ccs file is it in [15:36:24] css [15:37:00] jakey2: You should probably use common.css to change it [15:37:03] !common.css [15:37:03] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !css, !csshideheader, !wptemplates, [15:37:05] !css [15:37:06] To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Vector.css is for the Vector skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/CSS [15:37:08] There you go. [15:37:39] ok thanks [15:40:24] why does the 1.23.2 patch file make a reference to mediawiki-1.23.2/tests/phpunit/includes/api/format/ApiFormatJsonTest.php, which does not exist? [15:40:32] "can't find file to patch at input line 276" [16:19:15] I could use some help with my media wiki translation extension [16:20:59] hi i coppied the chess page in from wikipedia to my wiki but it does come out the same why is that? http://www.chess.opensophia.org/index.php?title=Chess [16:27:13] I'm getting a Internal Server Error when I try to enable translations on my wiki, any ideas or tips? [16:36:48] wpoehner: check your server log files to see what the details of the error are [16:37:32] jakey2: before i can help you copy content, you need to fix your wiki's license to be cc-by-sa. otherwise copying content from wikipedia is a copyright violation [16:38:08] hi, i run my wiki on server, a pc, [16:38:13] with xampp [16:38:15] jackmcbarn; ok [16:38:22] whats the difference in the liscence [16:38:24] ? [16:38:38] if i want to upload my wiki on my website, what should i do? [16:38:50] sasan: do you mean to a web host? [16:39:12] jakey2: cc-by-sa means anyone can copy your content and change it, as long as they attribute you and agree to the same license [16:39:14] i just want to upload my wiki in my website [16:39:24] sasan: what web host do you have? [16:39:30] i have domain [16:39:35] how do i change the liscence [16:39:36] from who? what company? [16:39:39] www.parsintelligent.com [16:39:40] jakey2: LocalSettings.php [16:39:41] A domain is not hosting, sasan [16:39:43] is my websit [16:40:09] jakey2: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Setting_copyright_for_the_site [16:40:58] ive opened the php file what do i put in [16:41:41] could help me?? [16:41:44] sasan: How do you upload other files to your website? [16:42:06] i upload it with my server [16:42:09] witht the link [16:42:18] 84.241.45.8/pars_wiki [16:42:24] is my wiki link [16:42:27] sasan: OK, you need to do exactly the same thing basically. [16:42:43] which thing? [16:42:57] sasan: Upload the directory with the mediawiki files to your website. [16:43:01] jakey2: add the stuff at https://dpaste.de/uOm0/raw [16:43:14] jakey2: if you already have any lines that start with $wgRights, remove them first [16:43:16] how? [16:43:26] sasan: The same way you upload any other files. [16:43:34] jackmcbarn; done [16:43:37] sasan: Just make sure you put the wiki files in a directory called "wiki" [16:43:40] Or "w" [16:44:01] i use xampp [16:44:08] to run my wiki [16:44:12] sasan: On your server? [16:44:22] yes [16:44:29] sasan: That shouldn't change anything [16:44:40] sasan: Just upload the wiki directory to the webroot. [16:44:44] jakey2: ok, good [16:44:51] jakey2: to make that page work, first you need to install 3 extensions [16:44:57] ParserFunctions, Cite, and Scribunto [16:45:03] but i want to upload the databse [16:45:05] ok [16:45:07] not just a ink [16:45:17] jackmcbarn; ok [16:45:27] sasan: Then you need to do a database export and import [16:45:30] !backup | sasan [16:45:30] sasan: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki for information about backing up your wiki. For restoring your wiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki#Import_the_database_backup for more. If you don't have database access, try !grabber. [16:45:55] jakey2: once those are extensions are installed, go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export and put Chess in the textarea, check the "Include templates" box and hit Export [16:46:12] then go to your wiki's Special:Import page and import that file. it's important that you install the extensions first though [16:46:14] you mean i should backup and then restor to my website? [16:46:19] sasan: Yes. [16:46:27] jackmcbarn; ok thanks [16:46:28]