[00:59:54] hi all [01:00:22] is it possible to integrate a live markdown editor into mediawiki, like epiceditor or dillinger.io? [01:18:35] bosnjak: no [01:18:38] we don't support markdown at all [01:19:02] if you want a "nicer" way to edit, the best thing we have is VisualEditor [01:19:37] jackmcbarn: i see [01:19:52] jackmcbarn: thanks for the answer [01:20:12] oops, accidentally left [01:20:14] bosnjak: you could look into Extension:CodeEditor though... [01:20:17] !e CodeEditor [01:20:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CodeEditor [01:20:27] I'm not sure if the ace editor has markdown support [01:21:12] legoktm: there is this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MarkdownSyntax [01:21:56] that extension looks scary... [01:30:37] legoktm: yes, unmaintained [01:45:00] hi folks a little problem with mw.util..... TypeError: mw.util is undefined .... I go to Special:BlankPage?action=mwutiltest&debug=true and the test "typeof mw.util" shows a question-mark.... not "true"... [01:47:20] hi folks a little problem with mw.util..... TypeError: mw.util is undefined .... I go to Special:BlankPage?action=mwutiltest&debug=true and the test "typeof mw.util" shows a question-mark.... not "true"... I am working a mw 1.17 version [01:53:29] okay i found a bug report that fixed this in mw 1.19 [01:53:36] Yeah 1.17 is very old [01:53:54] RoanKattouw: Running 1.9 at work. ;-) [01:54:12] I remember releasing 1.17 in my junior year of college, and I've now finished graduate school [01:54:31] RoanKattouw, hi there, author of bugfix... so i should update dependencies somewhere... hmm [01:54:38] Special:UserRights used to be pretty atrocious. [01:54:57] hypergrove: Wait, are you saying I fixed that bug? [01:55:01] i'm even seeing the old cookie problem [01:55:07] I mean, that's perfectly possible, I just don't remember doing it :) [01:55:14] yeah, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/270704?do=post_view_threaded [01:55:59] hypergrove: is there any reason you are running a outdated 1.17 version? [01:56:34] p858snake|l, of course, i don't work on old versions for pleasure :) I DO have a life ya know! [01:56:50] hi fhocutt [01:57:17] p858snake|l, i'm doing smw+ stuff, lots of fun oh joy oh boy! [01:58:16] pays the bills at least... ckeditor ontology browser, lots of stuff there [02:01:26] hi sumanah! [02:01:39] fhocutt: is now a good time to talk about Java absurdities? [02:01:45] hypergrove: I would consider convincing them to upgrade [02:02:06] briefly! [02:02:20] I will be heading off soon [02:02:31] fhocutt: ok [02:02:52] fhocutt: so, what have you done so far to try to get help on the problem? once I know that I can suggest the next people-to-contact [02:03:14] talked a lot with one of my friends who's working on java stuff now [02:04:06] searched the error [02:04:24] plus maven [02:04:25] fhocutt: so if I were you, at this point, I would write a rough summary, slap it online somewhere like a paste or a GitHub gist, and tweet it [02:04:26] p858snake|l and RoanKattouw --> many thanks for your advice .... back to salt mine [02:04:35] fhocutt: and send a link to wikitech-l [02:04:46] sure, makes sense [02:04:59] (I know you are about to stop working for the day, so this could wait till tomorrow) [02:05:04] I am pretty close to done for the day, yeah [02:05:10] p858snake|l and RoanKattouw --> and thanks for this hotline -- it IS a lifesaver for us trying to enlarge the wiki community [02:05:42] but that is a good idea [02:05:42] fhocutt: ok! well, maybe that can be the thing you do tomorrow if you don't happen upon a solution some other way before tomorrow AM [02:05:49] fhocutt: that's what Julia Evans does all the time [02:05:50] yep, sounds good [02:05:53] ah, cool [02:06:01] have a good night! see ya later! [02:06:10] later! [08:04:28] Hallo. [08:05:31] Is there any kind of effort to move Lua modules that are needed by many wikis from being stored on-wiki to being deployed as extensions in libraries? [08:10:42] not really [08:10:47] the only one I can think of is mw.html [08:10:52] which originally came from enwp [08:17:19] Can you think of any reason not to turn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Authority_control , for example, to an extension? [08:19:59] none other than "because code review in gerrit is slow" [08:20:17] same reason we don't turn gadgets into extensions basically [08:44:09] didn't wikipedia have a button to pronounce words? [09:15:57] hi [09:16:15] really confused about mw versions [09:20:40] graingert: some pages have a recording [09:22:40] 1.23.2 when installed becomes 1.19.14+dfsg-1? why is this? [09:26:05] does anyone know how to show TOC only on mobile? [09:31:02] shouldn't be the case [09:32:00] only workaround I have is to wrap __TOC__ in a div I define and add the media query to the stylesheet [09:46:49] valhallasw`cloud: ah okay [10:01:01] aharoni: also, hoo has been working on an infobox module [10:02:26] thedj: I know; that's almost *all* that I find when I do `find . -name '*lua'` in all extensions (can you suggest a better way to look for it?) [10:03:02] I also find bits in TitleBlacklist and ParserFunctions - and that's it. [10:03:41] there is nothing else [10:25:31] If a Lua module is in an extension, is there any established way to localize it? [12:06:48] I just upgraded an older wiki to 1.23 following the guide. Everything seems ok, except images are not displayed in pages. The file page looks fine (proper mime-type, e.g. File:Margin padding.png), but in a wiki page, "[[File:Margin padding.png]]" becomes [padding.png] [12:07:12] i tried "php maintainance/rebuildImages.php" with no luck [12:07:57] most of the references I'm finding for this sort of problem deal with bad mime-type detection, but that seems ok (did echo mim_content_type('images/d/d3/Margin_padding.png'); and got back image/png) [12:20:01] Hi. I'm looking for a method to quickly scramble all passwords after a server breach, to force universal password resets. [12:41:06] Hmmmm. [12:41:25] chuck54: Try the "WikimediaMaintenance" extension. [12:41:30] There may be a maintenance script in there. [12:42:21] superlou: You figure it out? [12:46:11] Carmela: thanks. I'm getting there with a script to reset each password using maintainance/changePassword.php --user="" --pass="" [12:58:27] Ah, that works. [12:58:39] Sort of, maybe. I wonder if that resets the password to "". [12:59:05] Wikimedia wikis had a similar breach recently, so I'm pretty sure there's a mass-reset maintenance script somewhere. [13:07:28] Carmela, checking out taht extension now, thanks. Had to switch gears for a bit so made a stackoverflow question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25286346/images-not-displayed-in-wiki-pages-after-upgrade [13:10:25] superlou: That extension wasn't for you. :-) [13:10:29] superlou: Is there a link to your wiki? [13:10:36] Or you can you paste the generated HTML markup? [13:10:53] Do the images load directly in the browser? e.g., example.com/w/images/f/a3/foo.png ? [13:14:50] Carmela, whoops. Unfortunately, it's an intranet only wiki at the moment. They do load directly [13:15:28] What does the generated markup look like? [13:15:57] Carmela, [padding.png] [13:16:15] it's almost like parsing is breaking down at the space [13:16:33] Does this happen with other images as well? [13:16:48] Try opening a test page and using a different image. [13:16:54] Sounds like an interesting bug. [13:17:45] Carmela, Happens with all images, both ones uploaded before and after the migratrion [13:18:35] also occurs if i make brand new test page [13:18:41] If you upload a new image, does the thumbnail render on the "File:Foo.png" page? [13:18:46] yep [13:18:55] Do you have any funky extensions installed? [13:19:11] You can try disabling extensions or other customizations in LocalSettings.php. [13:19:18] i have VisualEditor installed, but disabled [13:19:51] is it possible that my localsettings.php file is too old [13:20:00] Shouldn't really matter. [13:20:07] the migration guide recommended just taking the old 1.18 file and dropping it in the new install [13:20:08] ok [13:20:18] You can re-run the installer to generate a new LocalSettings.php if you want. [13:20:41] Did you test with images without a space? [13:20:44] yep [13:20:48] And it still breaks? [13:20:50] have a File:Bell.png [13:20:51] same symptoms [13:20:54] it's pretty odd [13:20:58] What's the HTML output? [13:21:32] Huhhhhhhhhhh. [13:21:42] I wonder if you customized your accepted URL protocols? [13:21:46] which generates [[1]] [13:21:53] And you made [file:/// ] links try to work? [13:21:58] hmm [13:22:07] let me open up localsettings [13:22:44] in hindsight, i did have it initially on a local PC, rather than on an intranet server [13:30:51] Carmela, i found this: $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:"; [13:30:56] any chance that's related? [13:31:36] welp [13:31:37] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUrlProtocols [13:31:49] there's a distinct warning on the page about it [13:33:33] :-) [13:33:34] thanks! [13:34:48] No problem. [13:45:56] where does the ResourceLoaderModule get it's dependencies from? I moved a wiki and it still tries to load files from the old file locations. Very annoying [13:48:18] sven^: You might want to see Resources.php, it lists all dependencies.Not sure of what you mean [13:48:45] mod_fcgid: stderr: PHP Warning: filemtime(): open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/home/foo/domain.tld/w/extensions/SemanticForms/skins/collapse-minus.png) is not within the allowed path(s): (/var/www/vhosts/domain.tld/:/tmp/) in /var/www/vhosts/domain.tld/wiki/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderFileModule.php on line 380, referer: http://wiki.domain.tld/index.php?title=Hauptseite [13:48:49] kunalg: ^^ [13:49:20] I checked the code at that location and it loads some dependencies. I don't have time to debug it any further to see where they actually get loaded from [13:50:03] sven^: Have a look at your LocalSettings.php, it lists the folder to use. [13:50:22] no occurence of any absolute paths in that file [13:50:25] only using $IP there [13:50:55] everything else works fine, so the paths are not screwed up. Only that resourceloadermodule seems to have stored old paths "somewhere" [13:51:46] I did a mysqldump | grep '/home/domain.tld/' and grep -ir '/home/domain.tld/' path/to/wiki both with no results [13:51:50] so... [13:53:10] stuff like this drives me away from MediaWiki.. :( [13:54:40] sven^: What is your $wgScriptPath? [13:54:40] sven^: in LocalSettings.pph [13:54:40] *php [13:54:54] '' iirc [13:54:55] sec [13:55:06] yeah [13:56:08] kunalg: yeah, it's '' [13:56:09] sven^: Sorry got disconnected [14:00:36] in mw.message in Lua I only see a plain() method. [14:00:45] Isn't there something like parse()? [14:03:44] sven^ I seem to recall running across similar problems myself when I changed directory structure on mine. I think there's a database table somewhere that's caching paths [14:04:05] Although what I remember was just affected by some older extensions. [14:05:15] Rosencrantz: do you know what table that was? As I said I grepped a dump for the old paths and got no results [14:05:35] Yeaaah.. I'm trying to remember [14:05:37] vvv: privet, long time no see [14:07:57] I am still kind of angry that someone thought it was a good idea to store absolute paths for stuff, because they were too lazy to do it properly :( [14:12:31] Here we go. This is the one I ran across: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Module_deps_table [14:17:55] sven^: I think you can safely just drop the contents of that table [14:25:58] Can someone explain to me why my preferences panel looks like this: http://s2.postimg.org/f559ju67t/Screenshot_2014_08_13_at_8_23_42_AM.png [14:26:32] Its without tabs and is only an un-ordered list. [14:34:53] Negative24: I think I've seen that when there's some files that aren't being loaded. Check your logs and see if you see anything. [14:35:02] usually like css or images or something [14:36:03] Rosencrantz: seems to be it, thanks [14:36:26] if I have install the MLEB, do I need to install Extension:UniversalLanguageSelecto [14:36:32] Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector [14:45:10] Rosencrantz: Which logs? MW recent changes, apache error logs, php logs? [14:47:40] where does Special:Version get the version from ? Is it from the mw database ? [14:51:14] dazza: What version? The MediaWiki version? (Special:Version has a lot of info on it) [14:52:42] the version of mediawiki. Special:Version is reporting 1.23.2 [14:53:07] It gets it from a global variable $wgVersion. [14:54:16] hello all. I'm trying to write a custom composer package for a mediawiki extension. I'm wondering, how does mediawiki know to automatically load the extensions in the composer.json file? [14:54:52] I'm trying to use autoloads but it doesn't seem to be working. maybe I need additional configuration. [14:58:28] Rosencrantz: Ah, look at that. There's my fix! https://git.wikimedia.org/commit/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/refs%2Fheads%2Fwmf%2F1.24wmf16 [15:50:56] Sigh. https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Red_Hat_Linux&dir=prev&offset=20140811202204&limit=6&action=history [15:59:03] qgil: Hi; Just checking: are we meeting on IRC or Hangout today? [16:00:41] never mind, just saw the calendar update :) [16:01:48] guillom, sumanah andre__ I just sent you a second invitation because in the first one "The party is over" [16:01:59] qgil, /me slightly late [16:03:39] guillom, have you problems joining? [16:04:24] qgil: I'm waiting for you in #wikimedia-meetbot . Should I be doing something else? [16:04:46] guillom, you should be joining the hangout -- sorry for the confusion [16:04:59] andre__, ^^^^ [16:05:05] will do soon. [16:05:09] Phab meeting :) [16:06:58] qgil: on my way. I didn't get any notification about that second change. [17:30:03] My preferences panel still doesn't have tabs. [17:30:12] I guess that commit/merge didn't fix it. [17:38:52] hi sandaru! [17:38:58] sandaru: do you have a moment to talk? [17:39:08] yeah [17:39:19] hi sumanah!! [17:39:39] sandaru: how are things going? have you been able to start following up on our suggestions from our last conversation? [17:40:16] not yet [17:40:39] things have been very busy in last few weeks since I was having my mis semester exams [17:41:43] sandaru: ok. I have found someone who would like to help you practice your conversational English [17:41:53] sandaru: what email address should she use to contact you? [17:41:55] ah great!! :D [17:42:05] and sandaru are you comfortable with Skype? [17:42:09] sandarumk@gmail.com [17:42:11] yes I am [17:42:18] (voice calls via Skype, I mean) [17:42:40] yeah I think it's ok. [17:43:33] my skype id is dinu.sandaru [17:46:12] Great, I'll put you both in touch with each other, sandaru [17:46:17] she's a friend of mine [17:46:25] By the way sumanah we will be having a session at #opw today in few hours right? [17:46:36] and she wants to practice her skills in tutoring people who want to speak better English [17:46:39] sandaru: yes we will [17:46:55] Thank you very much for the opportunity sumanah [17:47:08] :) [17:47:16] Then that will be a great chance for both of us :) [17:47:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Project_ownership#footer need comments and action [17:49:08] qgil: ^ [17:51:32] I believe ^d is still granting +2 permissions in repos? ^^^^^^ [18:05:58] Rosencrantz: Can you specify what logs I should look at to find the problem to my preferences page? [18:06:39] !debug | Negative24 [18:06:39] Negative24: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [18:07:53] marktraceur: All debug vars are on true. [18:11:37] marktraceur: My preferences panel looks like this http://s2.postimg.org/f559ju67t/Screenshot_2014_08_13_at_8_23_42_AM.png [18:12:18] that looks like a JavaScript error [18:12:26] Yeah [18:12:29] or no JavaScript being loaded at all [18:13:22] My JS gadgets work. [18:13:32] Negative24: Hit F12, a browser console should pop up. Look for any JavaScript error there (optionally reloading the page when the console is open) [18:15:09] I get three errors: [18:15:11] Uncaught Error: Unknown dependency: ext.eventLogging [18:15:22] TypeError: Cannot set property 'watch' of undefined TypeError [18:15:32] Negative24, this is on labs, right? [18:15:32] TypeError: Cannot read property 'log' of null TypeError [18:15:39] !e EventLogging [18:15:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging [18:15:44] jeremyb: You are correct [18:15:56] Ugh, then labs needs EL...again [18:16:23] marktraceur: EL? [18:16:26] EventLogging [18:16:29] See the link I gave you [18:16:51] Yea. Do you want me to install it? [18:17:14] Negative24: Yes, that should solve the issue [18:18:11] marktraceur: Alright, installed now. But isn't eventlogger a debug helper? [18:18:27] Negative24: No, it's for metrics usually [18:18:50] Hmmm. It works. [18:18:59] But why? [18:19:18] Wasn't expecting a fix like that. [18:19:51] Negative24: Because EventLogging defines the module that is the dependency in the error message [18:20:14] Negative24: You'd do well to figure out which module is using the dependency and report a bug asking to make it a soft dependency [18:20:47] marktraceur: and this is a MW bug? [18:20:53] not Labs? [18:21:16] sounds like MW [18:22:31] Negative24: It's a bug in whatever module has decided that EL is a hard dependency [18:22:40] And not mentioned it in its documentation :0 [18:22:42] :) [18:23:37] marktraceur: Alright. I guess I have some investigating to do. [18:25:54] marktraceur: I just commented out the require_once for EventLogging and refreshed Special:Preferences and now it works without EL and my debugging toolbar works. [18:27:39] ...huh, weird [18:27:45] Negative24: Maybe it got cached though [18:28:00] Browser or server? [18:28:08] Browser probably [18:29:31] I'm going to clear my cache and try again. [18:32:40] hi all -- are "QuickTemplates" really necessary (on MW 1.17+ versions)? [18:33:25] the doc says "While skins shouldn't use this class" I do see it being used in MW's own skin definitions.... [18:36:21] hypergrove: What documentation said to use it? [18:36:54] hypergrove: skins usually use BaseTemplate, which is a subclass of QuickTemplate [18:37:27] marktraceur: Discarding the cache worked as advertised and tabs are now gone again. [18:38:24] Negative24: Woohoo. Now I'd grep for ext.eventLogging in your mediawiki directory to find out what module is depending on it [18:39:20] marktraceur: Wouldn't it just be easier to backtrace the request in the console? [18:39:39] marktraceur, said NOT to use it? [18:39:49] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:QuickTemplate [18:41:05] MatmaRex, Monobook uses SkinTemplate [18:41:43] ? [18:41:55] What just happened? [18:42:07] Negative24: freenode had a netsplit [18:42:27] In mw.message in Lua I only see a plain() method. Isn't there something like parse()? [18:42:29] MatmaRex_, vector uses SkinTemplate [18:42:38] aharoni: there used to be, not anymore [18:42:46] Negative24: Maybe maybe not [18:42:53] Negative24: That was a netsplit, pay it no mind [18:43:30] vector defines a QuickTemplate too, and so does Monobook [18:43:32] hypergrove: It sounds like BaseTemplate is the way to go... [18:43:34] we do have a [[netplit]] [18:43:38] on enwiki [18:43:46] hypergrove: SkinTemplate and BaseTemplate/QuickTemplate are actually completely unrelated [18:43:52] marktraceur: I'm going to try that first and then grep (which will take forever and may turn up false positives) [18:43:54] it's just incredibly stupid naming [18:43:57] aharoni: if you want it to preprocess, then call frame:preprocess on the output of plain. if you want it to parse, just return it as normal and the parser will take care of it [18:44:03] class SkinTemplate extends Skin [18:44:08] class BaseTemplate extends QuickTemplate [18:45:33] MatmaRex_, agreed :) naming and the structure is a bit confusing thanks... [18:46:06] if by "a bit" you mean "extremely", then i agree [18:47:32] MatmaRex_, i try to be kind to legacy decisions [18:48:35] can we make skinnames language-appropriate? [18:49:24] better worded is, can skinnames be language qualified in any way? [18:51:41] marktraceur: I just ran grep -R "ext.eventLogging" *. What should I be looking for? [18:52:01] Negative24: Look at matches and find ones that look like hard dependencies [18:52:24] Actually [18:52:26] I have a better way [18:52:30] I should have thought of it sooner [18:52:31] One sec [18:54:07] Negative24: $.each( mw.loader.moduleRegistry, function ( i, module ) { if ( $.inArray( module.dependencies, 'ext.eventLogging' ) ) { console.log( i ); } } ); [18:54:13] Run that in your browser console on your wiki [18:54:19] It'll give you the names of a bunch of modules [18:54:29] Copy/paste it to dpaste.de or a similar pastebin site [18:55:57] hi fhocutt just wanted to wave [18:56:10] I am curious whether the sudden idea you had during our call has panned out :) [18:56:10] hi sumanah [18:56:16] sumanah! Have you tried rcstream? ori and I fixed it during wikimania :-) [18:56:25] valhallasw`cloud: I haven't tried it yet! [18:56:29] nope, unfortunately. I am trying to get the exec:exec plugin in maven to work [18:56:29] cool! [18:56:49] on the theory that running it in the same program will possibly help [18:57:10] right now I am trying to configure the plugin [18:57:12] \o [18:57:20] marktraceur: http://pastebin.com/P206R4zS [18:58:48] Hm, that doesn't make any sence [18:58:55] Maybe I did inArray backwards [19:00:31] Negative24: $.each( mw.loader.moduleRegistry, function ( i, module ) { if ( module.dependencies.indexOf( 'ext.eventLogging' ) >= 0 ) { console.log( i ); } } ); [19:00:34] That should be better [19:01:01] jQuery is stupid [19:01:47] :) [19:02:20] marktraceur: I only got one line: skins.vector.compactPersonalBar.trackClick [19:03:38] Much better [19:03:51] At which point I think I get to yell at MatmaRex_, GOD OF SKINS [19:03:58] Or something. [19:04:00] there was a bug about that script not being loaded because of adblock or some such [19:04:03] !bug ALL "skins.vector.compactPersonalBar.trackClick" [19:04:03] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL+%22skins.vector.compactPersonalBar.trackClick%22 [19:04:12] i think we wontfixed it [19:04:40] Is my adblock a problem? [19:04:53] hmm, no results? [19:04:56] Oh, no, I lied to you [19:04:57] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63535 [19:05:00] It's VectorBeta [19:05:01] Negative24: maybe [19:05:06] jdlrobson is the lucky winner!!! [19:05:08] does whatever you're seeing look like that bug? [19:05:21] (i haven't read the scrollback :P) [19:05:30] MatmaRex_: No bugs found [19:05:47] Negative24: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63535 is the correct link [19:06:21] No, I don't think that's right, MatmaRex_ [19:06:27] Loading eventLogging made it work [19:06:31] It's a dependency issue [19:06:41] VectorBeta uses EventLogging as a hard dependency [19:07:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VectorBeta [19:07:13] And doesn't mention it as a dependency. [19:07:29] jackmcbarn: thanks, but if I do [19:07:31] myMsg = mw.message.new( 'nmembers', '3' ) [19:07:32] return myMsg:plain() [19:07:33] then I'd expect to get "3 members", but I get "3 {{PLURAL:3|member|members}}" [19:07:40] oh. heh [19:07:50] aharoni: return frame:preprocess(myMsg:plain()) [19:08:45] jackmcbarn: aha - that works. thanks. [19:08:49] np [19:09:40] btw fhocutt you are on Arabic Wikipedia https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A9 [19:09:43] (knitting) [19:09:51] awesome! [19:11:50] sumanah, fhocutt, but it's (the video) not translated! [19:12:02] * jeremyb will work on english subtitles if they don't already exist [19:12:19] :) [19:12:33] oh awesome! Thanks, jeremyb. Let me know if you need terms or spellings checked. [19:13:08] fhocutt, i will [19:16:03] MatmaRex, marktraceur: So should documentation be updated or removing the hard dependency? [19:18:40] Negative24: Both :) [19:19:02] Hmm. [19:22:15] hi #mediawiki! i updated $wgContentNamespaces, adding a new namespace to it, but {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} hasn't changed and the row in site_stats table is unchanged - when does MW update stats and/or do i need to manually update stats on a cron or something? [19:22:48] firebus: there should be a maintenance script to do it [19:22:50] !maintenance [19:22:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Maintenance_scripts [19:22:58] there is [19:23:28] so stats only update if i manually or cron the main script to run [19:23:32] maint [19:23:37] thanks! [19:23:53] or run php maintenance/update.php --quiet [19:24:07] Its better than cron [19:24:32] * I meant --quick [19:24:42] not quiet [19:25:35] I think {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} doesn't get updated with update.php [19:26:53] It may be a job queue job [19:27:12] That's the way all templates get updated [19:28:23] well, it's updated on every edit. When you create a new page, it bumps up the number, and is decreased when you delete, etc [19:28:53] but if you change $wgContentNamespaces, that's a whole different thing [19:29:04] it needs to be repopulated [19:29:07] Vulpix, so on change i ned to run the updateArticleCount script to get things reset [19:29:15] then I can expect it to update on edit [19:29:23] firebus: yes [19:30:02] marktraceur: Should I file a bug report on the hard dep.? [19:30:24] I don't know how articles are counted, but some years ago a page required to have at least a "[[" sequence (or a comma depending on a config variable) to be counted as an "article" [19:30:49] that would require some sort of parsing of every page to check that [19:31:09] Negative24: Yes please :) against VectorBeta. [19:31:13] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgArticleCountMethod [19:35:17] yeah, i saw tha [19:35:18] t [19:35:41] i'm not super concerned about exact count, but just want order of magnitude to be correct now that i've added a big namespace [19:36:59] marktraceur: Filed as !bug 69490 [19:37:14] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69490 [19:37:20]