[00:51:56] Hi [00:52:43] Could you give me an example of use of Special:Diff? [00:57:31] Automatik, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23#Editing [00:57:49] thanks! [01:07:24] Automatik, this was a case of searching for 'Special Diff' on mediawiki.org :) [01:07:35] I searched but not found [01:08:07] see this: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?search=specialf%3ADiff&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Lire&fulltext=1 [01:08:22] sorry: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=special%3ADiff&fulltext=Search [01:09:12] now I understand that without ':' it works [03:39:37] hi all! [03:40:29] i have a question: per the nature of a wiki, there are always some red links .. but search engines may penalise red links in a site .. so is there a standard way to solve this? [03:41:13] i mean, when a site has many links pointing to 404s, then search engines penalise this .. [03:41:26] do red links cause this penalisation? and if so, is there a way to solve it ? [03:50:15] anyone ? [04:36:23] That's an interesting question. [04:42:25] but red links don't point to a 404 error in MediaWiki wikis, do they? [04:44:18] Non-existent pages now throw a 404, I believe. [04:44:24] But redlinks use &redlink=1 or something. [04:44:28] Which may not be a 404. [04:47:26] I heard that in web 2.0 sites like wikis 404 are not thrown. [04:48:18] And that's possibly true since we have a message generated by the server with redlink=1: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lfschenone&action=edit&redlink=1 and without: https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/indeedeee [05:18:09] Automatik, surely you could just test? [05:19:18] I don't need to know, that wasn't my question [05:25:40] ok, but how long does it take to test? [05:26:35] i don't know, but why? (i have really no idea how do it...) [05:27:25] to do it* [05:28:27] hit ctrl-shift-k or maybe f12 depending on browser. then load the page in question [05:28:38] i just checked though [05:29:25] action=edit (with or without redlink=1) is 200 [05:29:31] without either is 404 [05:29:57] and your web 2.0 sites comment may be true or not. no idea. but that doesn't mean that we follow that [05:30:09] we could do whatever we want. and we're not realy web 2.0 anyway [05:30:11] really* [05:31:55] ok, thanks for your explanations [06:09:23] hello [10:58:03] Hi all - I've had to edit my MW MySQL tables to redact a link someone posted to illegal content (I wanted to keep their other changes and just obscure the URLs) but the content is still showing up in the page diff. If I diff against another revision then it's showing as redacted (good) but when I use the "prev" link for the revision in question, it keeps showing up the original version of the diff with the unwanted content stil [10:58:03] l visible. There's obviously caching going on somewhere but I can't see where, and &action=purge doesn't work for diff pages. Any suggestions on how to clear this cache? Many thanks! [10:59:53] clear your browser cache first [11:00:27] makes no difference, shift+reload doesn't help either [11:00:41] are you logged in? [11:01:31] Yes, but trying it from a different PC that hasn't visited the site before still shows the old diff also [11:01:41] (where I am not logged in on the other PC) [11:03:07] I'm wondering whether it's cached in the MW SQL DB, but if so I'm not sure where [11:03:35] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache [11:03:52] mw does no caching by default [11:03:57] your web server may do caching by default [11:04:18] hmm could be, I'll have a look [11:05:36] hm, messagecachetype and parsercachetype are anything by default [11:05:53] but that's irrelevant for your purposes [11:07:18] Can't see any caching on the web server, and adding dummy params to the URL would bypass any web server cache, and doing this still returns the cached copy of the page - so it must be somewhere in MW [11:14:07] Found it! [11:14:55] it was in the objectcache table! Apparently this whole table can be removed, but I just removed the rows that contained the text "diff" and the revision IDs in the "keyname" column and this did the trick! [11:15:17] (to clarify I mean the whole table can be wiped, not removed entirely) [13:43:43] hi, how can I use html5 tags in my templates? [16:23:44] Hello? [16:24:18] When requesting sysop permissions, it says you are entitled to sysop tools if you are a developer [16:24:26] What does that mean? [16:25:01] Does any crat or experienced mediawiki user know? [16:25:38] ... [16:25:38] could anyone be so nice and tell me where exactly MediaWiki sends out mail (password resets, etc)? [16:25:47] Fuzzzzyyyy: Link? [16:25:55] Well [16:26:00] it was a question not really a link [16:26:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests [16:26:21] It says you are entitled to sysop if you are a developer [16:26:27] what does that mean? [16:26:48] I meant a link to where you saw that... thanks... [16:27:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests [16:27:10] there [16:27:22] its on the Project:Requests page [16:27:26] "except for staff and well-established volunteer developers, where a developer is someone who has had changes accepted to the MediaWiki core or a MediaWiki extension where the total number of changed lines in the relevant whitespace-insensitive diffs exceeds 100." [16:27:51] ... [16:27:57] so what does that mean? [16:29:00] Fuzzzzyyyy: It means that you make changes to the MediaWiki codebase at gerrit.wikimedia.org ? [16:29:29] ok let me check gerrit.wikimedia.org [16:29:52] ok so do I have to create an account there? [16:31:30] You don't qualify for sysop under that text [16:31:40] Fuzzzzyyyy: If you want to contribute to MediaWiki, take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker. If you're just doing it to get the rights, I suggest you come up with a valid reason to get them the other way... [16:32:22] I don't want the rights I just want to start contributing [16:32:28] I do some translation work currently [16:32:36] To the MediaWiki code base? [16:34:07] Or to MediaWiki.org ? [16:35:38] Well... [16:47:42] hello. what actions are needed to include this patch into the core? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120475/ May be some of you who have rights include it now? [16:52:39] gleki: i found some issues with it [16:55:39] okay then [16:56:45] if $wgSMTP is set to false, MediaWiki just uses the PHP mail command, right? [16:59:09] sven^: iirc yes, but it goes probably goes through the mailer class first. [16:59:26] hmm, I have a strange idea.. [16:59:54] gosh this really sucks. Moved a webpage/wiki to a sponsored webhosting and there is so much that doesn't work properly [17:01:13] sponsored? do you mean a hosting that inject ads on pages? [17:07:01] Hi guys, I have a question: do you know of a way to avoid one specific h2 to be displayed in the ToC? [17:10:58] you can't do that. If you want it to not be a heading, don't use a heading, and just a

or something like this [17:11:50] Pfff ._. [17:12:14] Well problem is our wiki has a script that changes the layout every 2 months [17:12:43] So inline styling to look like a heading that changes colors throughout the year is impossible afaik [17:13:35] Unless I add like ~30 lines of CSS [17:15:51] you can change inline styles with a CSS class and maintain the style in your site's CSS [17:17:25] Well yeah but thing is, to look like a h2 it needs like 6x 4 lines of CSS that are time-specific + a number of lines for general h2 styling [17:17:43] And to load that on every page just because I need it not to display in the TOC there is a bit silly. [17:18:37] I think I may just __NOTOC__ and let people do their sections manually [17:19:30] Vulpix: no. It's for voluntary work and the webhosting company gave us the account for free. We just have to mention them at the bottom of the page [17:20:39] ok, that's fine. Auto-ad injection usually breaks MediaWiki hard [17:22:22] nah.. there are just so many small fuckups by that company.. I am almost at the point where I buy cheap webspace somewhere else from private funds [17:25:14] Vulpix: Auto ad-injection breaks most things :P [17:31:19] there are so many things wrong with this webhoster that already broke parts of MediaWiki... so.. arf [20:22:42] Hi, I'm wondering if I can get some help with my media wiki/ [20:24:04] I have installed media wiki and the translation packages, and when I go to translate a page, I get a 500 internal server error [20:24:36] will_help: Have a look at your server error logs, they should be able to provide some kind of indication on why that is happening. [20:27:50] Lcawte I'm getting a file does not exist error msg, ( /home/translatecnvc/public_html/403.shtml) [20:31:45] any ideas? [20:34:51] will_help: Err, so your file points to a 403 which is permission denied. Is it a file does not exist or a permissions error? [20:35:29] Files does not exist [20:36:45] Uhhh... I'm not sure. I don't have any experience in setting up that extension, and I don't think I've come across a file does not exist error in a long time. [20:37:48] is there another irc chat i can talk too? [22:44:02] Hi! Is it possible to pass a variable from the skin to a special page? [22:44:42] A Special page of mine needs to get a hold of some data that's found in the skin - Otherwise I'd have to repeat that data and increase loading times. [22:48:40] I've tried several thigs along the line of $this->getSkin()->$variable_name, of course that's not quite right.