[00:21:55] hello [00:30:06] hi [00:32:40] how do i change my logo image? [00:37:17] i just installed mediawiki lol [00:37:18] !logo [00:37:18] The logo that appears in the top left of each page is from $wgLogo in LocalSettings.php. To change this you change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo. See . Be sure $wgLogo is set to an absolute path, starting with "/" (or a protocol "http:"/"https:"). Using pretty URLs a relative path will behave oddly. 135x135 pixels [00:38:21] okay, where do i find localsettings.php ? sorry to be retarded [00:40:08] in mediawiki install directory [00:40:57] so i can't do it from the site? i have to FTP into it? [00:43:04] you can't do it from the site [00:43:31] whether you choose to use ftp or another means of file editing, i dunno [00:44:29] what other way is there to access localsettings.php other than an FTP? [00:44:35] i can't use FTP [00:45:34] what else can you use? [00:45:46] i don't know thats what im asking [00:49:59] are you the host owner? [00:50:28] how did you /install/ mediawiki? [00:50:45] yes, just via the control panel. [00:50:53] i can't get FTP to work though [00:51:09] i can upload one file at a time, which i guess should work right? [00:51:14] since it's just the one php file [00:53:43] ah okay. now im editing the php file [00:58:52] does the logo need to be hosted on my server or can i just use imgur? [01:09:32] i got it figured out :) [01:17:50] presumably hosted on your server would be a bit more reliable [01:17:55] also, \o/ [01:18:05] ya i did that [01:18:15] now im just trying to learn how to makes it look nice [01:19:35] it gotta be 135x135 pixels for best result [01:19:51] yup. here's my site so far http://www.defoo.org/index.php?title=Main_Page [01:20:48] you may want to fix the url for it to be short at a point -- www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL -- but yes, black square and all that art [01:23:53] that's going to require that i completely change the installation structure...something i would probably screw up. my control panel basically did all the installation for me [01:24:16] unless im mistaken and it is easier than that [01:25:48] if the admins aren't evil, you would just have to edit a .htaccess file [01:27:18] theres like 8 htaccess files on my server [01:28:16] should it be in the root directory or /serialized/, /maintenance/, /maintenence/archives/, /cache/, /images/, /languages/, /includes/ ? [01:38:17] root [01:40:23] Generally the same place as index.php. [01:56:46] Svetlana pls [01:58:19] ? [01:58:33] ok so im trying to follow this guide [01:58:34] https://kb.ucla.edu/articles/configuring-short-urls-in-mediawiki [01:58:38] can you please assist me [01:59:58] You should describe what you've done already. [02:01:14] would it help if i took a screen shot of my file structure? [02:01:28] Probably not. [02:01:54] Configuring short URLs is a matter of telling your wiki to output "/wiki/foo" instead of "/w/index.php?title=Foo". [02:02:03] You do that via LocalSettings.php. [02:02:22] and i do that right in the LocalSettings.php? [02:02:28] i don't need to alter my file structure? [02:02:28] The other piece is configuring the Web server to know that requests to /wiki/Foo go to /w/index.php?title= [02:02:41] Probably not. [02:02:53] You've installed the wiki in the root directory of your Web server, it looks like. [02:02:59] It's frowned upon, but not unusual to do that. [02:03:14] Compare with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=foo [02:03:21] ok so under wgScriptPath i'm going to put /w [02:03:31] That's not your script path, is it? [02:04:00] umm [02:04:14] im a wordpress tard...i have no clue [02:04:30] Do you have a path with "/w" in it? [02:04:38] If not, you probably don't want to tell MediaWiki to use one. [02:04:58] People usually follow Wikipedia. [02:05:03] Which uses w/ for its wiki directory. [02:05:09] w/ lives in the Web server root. [02:05:18] So you have en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php [02:05:38] If you put your files in w/, you'd set $wgScriptPath to '/w', yes. [02:06:01] i haven't put my files anywhere. i have no idea what the structure is [02:06:40] It's difficult to set up a Web site without putting files anywhere. [02:07:01] what i mean is i do not understand the installation structure [02:07:14] Right. [02:07:18] i just want index.php?title= to be gone [02:07:24] Right. [02:07:41] But that requires slightly modifying MediaWiki and your Web server configuration. [02:08:01] okay, so its not a simple fix like Svetlana had suggested? [02:08:15] It's simple enough. [02:08:18] !shorturl [02:08:18] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [02:10:33] yeah this is saying i have to do some crap with Apache [02:11:37] Right. [02:11:40] If that's your Web server. [02:11:48] Apache (httpd) is popular Web server software. [02:13:12] im a little out of my depth here [02:14:24] maybe i should skip this for now because i am getting nowhere and feeling more and more like a retard [02:16:31] okay, next on my list is editing the links in the sidebar [02:16:46] i believe i can do this from within the actual site [02:20:09] Carmela [02:20:21] how do i change the links in the sidebar? [02:20:50] fdrdox: MediaWiki:Sidebar [02:21:22] yeah where exactly is that? i know these are stupidly simple questions. once i understand these basic things i will stop bugging you guys and work on my content [02:21:50] http://whatever.your.site.is/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [02:22:24] it redirects me to the main page [02:22:24] http://www.defoo.org/index.php?title=Main_Page [02:23:20] hold on i think i found it [02:23:22] http://www.defoo.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [02:23:27] yeah [02:24:09] thanks jackmcbarn [03:28:57] hello, yesterday have asked about how could i change the position of a logo in my wiki, one of our firend suggest to use css code and introduce me a link, i have followed that link and used #footer-parsico{ position: fixed; top: 0px; left: 0px; } but my logo in footer can not changed [03:29:10] could anybody help me, why it coud not changed? [03:34:23] I'm having trouble with a pretty simple parser function on a template over at en.wp. [03:34:30] Can someone help me figure out how to make it work correctly? [03:34:35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wiktes [03:35:15] I want to be able to create links and I made them work just fine ''except'' when someone has some styling like bold. Then I want to make it *display* the bold but *link* to the name without apostrophes inside it. Can anyone help me with that? [03:38:46] You can see it live on the Web at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_orthography#Older_conventions [03:45:54] Probably need to make a Scribunto module for that. [03:46:04] Though doesn't [['''foo''']] work? [03:49:43] could you help [03:49:45] ? [03:50:25] sasan: You get an error in your HTML code from that second set of coordinates. [03:50:32] so apparently i need to install a plugin to embed youtube videos? [03:50:33] sasan: Fix that error first. [03:51:11] sasan: Probably you have to set sensible coordinates, that 0,0 is top left corner. [03:51:14] no error [03:51:23] yes, but see my logo please [03:51:29] wiki.parsintelligent.com [03:51:33] sasan: Look at the source code of your page. [03:51:42] i have not seen error when wiki loa [03:51:44] i have not seen error when wiki load [03:52:35] sasan: Look at line number 172. [03:53:20] where do you see in my wiki? [03:53:29] you are in debugging mode? [03:54:01] sasan: Go to the url you gave, in browser press Control-U to see the source of the pages. Then read line number 172. [03:54:16] sasan: Then read CSS manual and learn how the coordinates work. [03:55:21] dear, line 172 is emptu [03:55:24] dear, line 172 is empty [03:55:25] nothng [03:55:37] sasan: I am not your dear. [03:55:44] Ok [03:55:45] sorry [03:56:08] Carmela, were you talking to me? [03:56:15] but line 172 is nothing [03:56:17] I think this is doable with templates. As en.wp uses Lua... [03:56:23] [03:56:25] just this [03:56:42] sasan: then look around, the is text ERROR there somewhere. [03:56:49] koavf: Yes. [03:56:54] koavf: Does [['''foo''']] work? [03:56:56] I forget. [03:57:03] Sorry. I don't understand you. [03:57:14] {{wiktes|si}} works. [03:57:22] {{wiktes|s'''i'''}} does not. [03:57:33] in line 230 you mean [03:57:33] ? [03:57:37] The former makes the link I want ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/si#Spanish ) [03:57:41] koavf: Right. You'll probably need a Scribunto module. [03:57:48] sasan: Anyway, you have been at this for days. You have been told the info in manual about two logos is correct and has been tested to work with Vector skin. [03:57:57] The latter makes https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/s'''i'''#Spanish [03:57:58] Okay. [03:58:04] I don't know how to do that. [03:58:07] koavf: There may be one already. [03:58:20] You just want to remove the ''' before it gets made into a link. [03:58:25] It shouldn't be very difficult. [03:58:26] Right. [03:58:27] sasan: Change the skin to Vector, temporarily or for yourself only, and do *exactly* as it says in the manual. [03:58:29] It's not. [03:58:32] I'm just ignorant. [03:58:47] I've also posted to the en.wp Village Pump, too. [03:58:51] but i do not want to change the skin [03:58:57] i want to do in this skin [03:59:14] sasan: When you get it working with Vector, change the skin back. [03:59:42] oh my god i am so fucking annoyed [03:59:59] fdrdox: Tut tut, no such words. [04:00:02] occasionally instead of publishing the page im working on, it just redirects me to the homepage [04:00:13] any idea why its doing this? [04:00:24] fdrdox: That is indeed very sad. [04:00:45] fdrdox: It does not like your language. [04:01:16] i should add sth to change it to skin? [04:01:50] sasan: To change the skin, read from the Mediawiki manual how to do it, do not ask every detail here. [04:02:23] sasan: I have not enough patience to guide you step by step to do things that take days with you. [04:03:30] if any one told me directly what should i do, i do not ask you more times [04:03:54] sasan: I told you directy to read the manual. [04:04:13] i read the css more than 10 times dear [04:04:16] sorry [04:04:18] not dear [04:04:25] i used those comamnds [04:04:29] i have showed you [04:04:30] sasan: What manual did I tell you to read? [04:04:43] you not, the other one told me the css manual [04:04:47] i read all [04:05:04] sasan: But you have not read the Mediasiki manual? [04:05:05] and find out hoe could i change the position, i have applied but it did not worked [04:05:29] tps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/position [04:05:34] i have read this [04:08:14] sasan: Read it again, you seem to not understand the positioning. Fixed and relative are different ways to accomplish positioning. [04:08:35] sasan: And do read the Mediawiki manual, before you come here next time. [04:09:06] i have generated my wiki all by myself [04:09:11] without any help [04:09:16] i just read your manual [04:09:27] but for this i just tried more [04:09:52] sasan: If you read the manual, you know how to change skin. [04:10:05] But now I put sasan to ignore. Sorry, I run out of patience. [04:10:28] h he, my wiki is on persian [04:10:31] language [04:10:43] for this i should know its transaltion in farsi [04:10:57] relly you are the more less knowleged in this irc [04:10:59] relaly [04:11:09] i just be sad with your behaviour [04:11:28] you are so rude [04:11:33] sorry for you [04:11:42] i do not want you to help me [04:11:56] there are more knowledgedable guys could help me [04:14:00] so how do i embed images in my articles [04:16:31] tale , Carmela ? [04:16:34] fdrdox: You mean this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images [04:17:20] yes but hosted on imgur. i dont want to get hit with a copyright takedown [04:18:25] fdrdox: I do not know what imgur is. But do have the permission to use the images that you put in your article, this channel can not help you if you do not have that. [04:19:09] how do i embed images from another website? [04:19:32] fdrdox: By reading the Help:Images chapter 7. [04:19:38] why you help all except me [04:19:40] :( [04:19:47] i am ashamed of what you have done [04:21:04] no tale, i want to embed the images not just link to them [04:21:56] where do i put this '$wgAllowExternalImages' at? [04:22:17] fdrdox: So now you managed to read the chapter to the end. [04:23:14] fdrdox: That line does have link to manual that explains $wgAllowExternalImages. Read that, and do not ask every detail on this channel. [04:23:39] no i have read this page before asking here. im uncertain where i enter that code at [04:25:02] fdrdox: That page indeed seems to omit saying that setting is put in LocalSettings.php. [04:26:33] ok i put it there. it seemed to ruin my site [04:26:36] just a white page now [04:26:40] http://www.defoo.org/index.php?title=Main_Page [04:27:05] fdrdox: You broke the LocalSettings.php. Put it back the way it wasl. [04:27:30] ok that fixed it...what did i do wrong though? [04:27:54] fdrdox: I have no idea, since you have revealed nothing about what you did. [04:28:21] i simply inserted "$wgAllowExternalImages" without quotes at the bottom of my localsettings.php file [04:28:25] and hit save [04:28:54] fdrdox: I think that is a variable, you have assing a value to it. [04:29:33] fdrdox: When set to true, users can bring in an inline image [04:29:58] ah. that seemed to fix it. now i just need to test actually embedding an image [04:30:33] fdrdox: You are supposed to read the manual page, not just load it on your screen. [04:33:20] yay it worked! http://www.defoo.org/index.php?title=TruShibes thank you tale [04:35:22] fdrdox: Yay indeed. See what a little reading of the manual can do! [04:35:48] now wheres the manual on placing the image to the left and having text wrap around it? [04:36:41] fdrdox: In that same Help:Images. [04:41:35] im having a hard time finding it [04:43:47] im not wanting to add a caption. please help tale [04:49:44] tale please! [04:52:57] i have read the manual! and its not working [04:53:01] please, tale! [04:54:03] fdrdox: Stop pm:ing me. I do not have any more time to help you. Workday and all that. [04:54:24] tale this will be the last thing that i ask for help [04:54:26] i promise that [04:54:41] just how do i put the image to the right of the page with text wrap? [04:54:55] fdrdox: Stop that pm. I already told you. No means no. [04:55:05] PLEASE TALE [04:55:22] fdrdox: goes to ignore [04:55:41] sasan can you help me please [04:57:24] White_Master will you help me please [04:57:32] fdrdox: hi [04:57:36] what do you need help with? [04:58:24] hi legoktm. i am just trying to make an external embedded image on my page position itself on the rightside and have text wrap around it. [04:58:39] I don't think MediaWiki supports that. [04:59:00] i see it on every wiki [04:59:13] those aren't externally embedded images. [04:59:13] like this [04:59:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube [04:59:20] with the images to the right and text wrapping around them [04:59:27] they're images stored in a MediaWiki file repo. [04:59:40] why would that matter? [04:59:50] Because it does...? [05:00:28] i mean im able to insert external images into my page...why wouldn't i be able to position them? [05:01:49] I mean, you probably can with CSS and stuff, but not with the normal MediaWiki syntax. [05:02:33] sigh, what if people claim copyright on my images? [05:03:33] just don't violate copyright laws to begin with :) [05:03:59] thats pretty much impossible with images. if someone is offended by the article written they will just claim copyright on the image [05:04:39] what am i supposed to do then? thats why i want the image hosted on imgur [05:05:36] dunno. [05:06:15] mediawiki is retarded if i can't resposition an image [05:07:30] no one is forcing you to use it [05:08:24] and to be clear, it very much can. you just haven't tried yet. [05:08:52] i mean this is an extremely simple function [05:11:20] you just told me its impossible [05:11:25] what is there to try? [05:11:35] I never said that. [05:11:52] [22:01:51] I mean, you probably can with CSS and stuff, but not with the normal MediaWiki syntax. [05:12:07] do you know of encyclopediadramatica.es ? [05:12:17] I know of, yes. [05:12:23] they are hosting a ton of copyrighted images [05:12:31] thats basically what i am wanting to do [05:12:49] heres an example [05:12:50] I'm not going to help you violate other people's copyrights. [05:13:07] would you consider what ED does copyright infringement? [05:13:12] technically all photos are copyrighted [05:14:10] im not talking about stealing peoples images that they are charging for. just basic public images. i dont want people getting butthurt and claiming copyright [05:16:43] people are really retarded in this chat [06:44:22] im really starting to get the hang of mediawiki [06:55:21] fdrdox: Does that make you similar to other people in this chat? [06:57:05] look how nice it is looking now tale: http://www.defoo.org/index.php?title=TruShibes [07:21:13] ok i am getting really annoyed [07:21:29] its not letting me publish a page on occasion [07:21:37] it will just redirect me to the main page without explaining why [07:21:40] why is it doing this? [07:24:10] it is simply refusing to let me edit certain pages [07:24:20] not even letting me enter plain text [07:37:32] looks like mediawiki is auto censoring profanity [07:38:06] how do i turn this off? [07:39:14] tale? [07:49:18] Hi guys, when I add permission to LocalSettings.php and then reload my site they don't work. Should I reload something? for example I've added $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; but the create account link is visible and works. [07:54:52] check in a different browser. it could be your cache [07:59:10] I'm checking it in incognito mode of chrome [08:01:04] and I checked it in iceweasel, it does not work [08:03:19] this is last lines of config file: http://tny.cz/157c5809 [08:04:17] try adding some spaces. this is what mine looks like [08:04:18] # End of automatically generated settings. [08:04:18] # Add more configuration options below. [08:04:19] #disable registration command [08:04:19] $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createaccount'] = false; [08:04:40] i have spaces in between all mine [08:05:35] fdrdox: between lines? [08:05:46] yes. it shouldnt matter but try anyway [08:06:25] nop, [08:06:46] someone with more knowledge will have to help. i just installed mediawiki today [08:07:07] hey tale [08:07:17] i tested it, but when a parser wants to parse a script (here php) first remove all comments [08:27:18] im editing a page and i cant find where to upload an image [08:27:31] i've enabled image uploads in LocalSettings.php [08:31:54] uploads are normally at: [[Special:Upload]], fdrdox [08:32:16] uploads <- uploading [08:32:53] i see. so you don't upload the image during the editing of a page? [08:36:30] that helped Erkan_Yilmaz, thanks. i can do it now [09:00:38] fdrdox normally the upload link should be available in the sidebar somewhere [09:02:12] yeah i see it now [09:40:43] hii...anyone there? [09:42:49] I want to contribute something to wikimedia through opw [09:43:03] Can anyone help me where to start from [09:43:21] I'm here but I'm not sure what 'opw' is [09:47:40] hello [09:47:55] i followed all steps, i can change my logo position [09:48:22] Hello [09:48:29] i used relative, fixed, absoulte, sticky version, but the logo position changed [09:48:33] I have a question [09:48:33] Hi ewan_, just ask! There is no need to ask if you can ask [09:48:58] i want a thing shich my logo position not chnaged and ther positon calculated from the edge of my wiki page [09:49:04] how could i do that? [09:49:45] I try to connect LDAP authentification with Mediawiki, but it doesn't work [09:52:52] Can you help me ? [09:58:10] Svetlana: could you help me once agian [09:58:11] sorry [10:26:25] are you in irc? [10:26:32] could you help me? [10:28:06] can I check whether current active user has a certain user right, from within a template? [10:38:04] i finally chnaged the position of my logo [10:39:07] but i want these positions be calcualted with regard of my wiki page [10:39:33] i mean i want, the logo placed in a porition regarding to last part of my wiki [10:39:44] could any body help? [10:41:11] position:absolute;bottom:...;right:...; [10:41:35] you could also try relative position, but you'd have to figure out what it's relative to :) [10:41:46] usually to the parent container but I sorta suck at css [10:44:23] : i want the first logo position vs. he last of wiki page [10:44:36] then i can rearrnage the other logo [10:44:40] vs. this one [10:48:10] maybe i can not tell you question correctly, yes? [10:49:46] yes? [10:53:27] how could i figure out, what is relative to? [10:57:52] vs. the last what of wiki page? [10:58:28] I would personally ask at #css and link them to the wiki - your task is no different from writing a stylesheet and what software powers the site doesn't matter very much [10:59:34] you mena i ask in css channel? [12:53:08] hi guys [13:08:54] i asked in Css channel [13:08:57] but no anwer [13:08:58] :( [14:13:34] nginx- [14:13:37] meh [14:13:49] wrong window [15:31:04] Hi [15:31:31] Does anyone know how to disable MW 1.16.1 from automatically capitalizing article names? [15:34:22] $wgCapitalLinks = false; [15:46:33] !debug [15:46:33] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [15:57:20] Reedy, wgCapitalLinks is only for >= 1.2.4 though... [15:57:36] Michio: 1.16 is newer than 1.2.4 [16:03:42] ...My bad. Whoops! [16:03:43] Thank you! [17:22:36] what extension enables the "Download as pdf" that you see on wikipedia pages? [17:22:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version only lists one pdf related extension and it's for importing PDFs, not exporting [17:23:13] (i notice that page also doesn't include a "Download as pdf" link like others [17:23:27] swills: Check what extensions are installed on wikipedias that have that feature. [17:23:47] tale: i've been doing that, but don't see it [17:24:09] swills: Google finds this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Export [17:24:29] tale: and also this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PDF_Writer [17:24:51] !e Collection [17:24:51] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [17:24:53] tale: neither of which show up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [17:24:55] swills: ^ [17:25:04] it's the Collection extension [17:25:10]