[00:23:11] Me again... Thanks for all your help last time. [00:23:22] :) [00:23:34] I haven't found anything on the web, but is there a way to access the search history? [00:23:39] IE - Terms people have used to search on your wiki? [00:23:51] ((Go go gadget data mining)) [00:26:30] hmmmm. that's a good question [00:29:29] Not able to find anything presently... Ah well. Not hugely important. [00:29:31] Kuu_Otava: so I'm poking around mediawiki.org and I see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Log_Searches [00:29:46] Thy search fu is superior to mine. [00:29:52] I guess by default there isn't [00:29:57] HTTP access logs maybe [00:30:12] Else, using a better search than just the default mysql probably opens the possibilities [00:30:13] :) Kuu_Otava I tried searching for [search logs] [00:30:17] Looks like MW 1.13alpha has the solution for the patching above: [00:30:20] What version are we on? [00:30:27] (IE - The most recent) [00:31:09] anything that suggests you change core code... [00:31:11] * Reedy barfs [00:31:20] Kuu_Otava: (I would guess that you're running into an outcome of how MediaWiki was originally built to suit Wikimedia, a very pro-privacy environment and one that could not necessarily afford to store giant logs [00:31:22] ) [00:31:43] That would make sense sumanah [00:31:59] With SpecialSearchResults, you can do it with about 5 lines of code [00:32:24] hi RoanKattouw - hope you're doing well. [00:33:01] btw Kuu_Otava http://hexm.de/mw-search is a special custom Google search that searches mediawiki.org, specific MediaWiki-related mailing lists, and some other sites [00:33:27] you can also set a preference if you log into mediawiki.org - in your preferences, I think in the Gadgets tab, check the "technical search" checkbox [00:33:39] and then it'll pop up as an option for the search box in the upper right corner [00:34:05] I find it helpful when I'm trying to find help, since right now a lot of useful info is scattered among the source code, bug tracker, mailing list archives, etc [00:34:26] That sounds incredibly useful. [00:34:45] Reedy what is SpecialSearchResults? [00:34:49] Hey sumanah - yeah I'm doing alright [00:34:50] It's a hook [00:34:56] Soon I will be visiting my native land again [00:35:03] For the first time in .... 10 months :| [00:35:23] RoanKattouw: you will have forgotten how to be a super aggressive biker maybe! [00:35:55] Well NL doesn't have Union Square traffic and it doesn't have stop signs to blow through, so... [00:35:59] sumanah - if v 1.13alpha had a solution for the search results thing, does it stand to reason it must be in 1.22.2? [00:37:20] Kuu_Otava: on this I will defer to people with more expertise [00:37:24] bd808: ^ [00:37:31] er wait I meant manybubbles ^ [00:37:46] * bd808 ides from search questions [00:37:46] Thanks sumanah, you've been great. [00:38:00] * Kuu_Otava laughs at the funny in the funny. [00:39:26] Kuu_Otava: ok - read the scroolback [00:39:57] I don't believe we have that, no. At least I haven't seen it. Doesn't mean it isn't hiding in a dark corner though [00:40:15] manybubbles, thanks a lot, I appreciate you taking the time to answer. :) [00:40:24] It's not important enough for me to spend a lot of time on it, I was primarily curious. [00:40:42] Seeing what people were searching for would be a useful way to determine how to name/phrase/categorize the pages. [00:47:54] Kuu_Otava: I totally get that [00:48:12] in landscape architecture/user experience design, those kinds of attempts are called "desire paths" [00:53:49] *laughs* Interesting. [00:54:26] * Kuu_Otava smiles. "I actually like that, quite a bit. It's not often that the modern need to classify everything comes up with something beautiful like that. [00:56:49] How's the password crypto used in the latest (git) version? I have to replicate it to authenticate users against the mediawiki database from an external (php) software. [00:59:50] !externalauth [00:59:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ExternalAuth [01:00:03] not helpful [01:00:48] !nothelpful [01:01:05] Hi ori :) [01:01:06] notnothelpful? [01:01:15] hi sumanah [01:01:23] that'd be helpful! [01:01:37] * lazowik is being obvious [01:01:41] bye! [01:02:17] Polsaker: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/includes/DefaultSettings.php#L4136 [01:07:18] Reedy, But I want to know how to has something with that pbkdf2, to compare user:password inputs from an external software [01:35:07] ok! there are now no bugs in Bugzilla that cc or are assigned to me [01:35:13] that bit of cleanup is now done [01:36:02] Nice. [01:37:30] !class Password [01:37:30] See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classPassword.html [01:37:47] The documentation on this class is pretty extensive [01:37:52] Polsaker [01:38:53] Oh, thanks parent5446 [01:38:55] * sumanah unsubscribes self from mediawiki-api, looks around for more lists to unsub from [01:42:04] sumanah: don't we have domain-wide mailman? you should be able to view all your subscriptions in one place [01:43:33] parent5446: hmmm, good to know [01:43:48] Yeah, you go into your preferences for a single mailing list, and it should have global options [01:44:33] parent5446, thanks! I could adapt it for my software :D [01:44:49] Polsaker: No problem. If you have any questions let me know. [01:45:10] thank you parent5446 - that worked! [01:45:16] for one: "Your unsubscription request has been forwarded to the list administrator for approval." OH WOW [01:45:35] biab [01:45:46] sumanah: No problem. And lol didn't know there were mailing lists out there that even used the unsubscribe request option [04:23:06] Hi I have a question for you fellow wikians [04:24:49] wikia is a different channel, unless you meant wiki-ans? [04:25:46] haha :) sorry about that I meant wiki-ans [04:28:20] so legoktm. do you know how I could integrate wikidata with wikipedia articles. Like if I wanted to insert a population value into a wikipedia article how would I do it? For example if I wanted to add the world population to an article through a wikidata value. I know the population will change in the future so I assume if the number is attached to wikidata, it will automatically update. Am I on the right track? [04:29:31] shoot i'll have to ask you later I'm about to have to leave Las Positas college to go home soon. :/ [04:30:36] {{#property:p###}} [04:45:16] Evenng all. [04:45:20] Evening, even. [04:59:19] * ElmerG hrms. Okay, this is weird. Does anyone have any thoughts on removing part of the border from the Vector skin around the tabs at the top? I've managed to remove the border on the left, but when I put to remove the right border in the same block it doesn't remove. [05:36:09] Isarra: Citing facts. Crazy talk [05:37:06] bawolff: Clearly. [05:41:34] Arg, dantman actually said a lot of the same stuff and I just ignored him because he rambled so much before getting to the point. >.< [05:42:00] Man, now I feel a bit stupid. [05:47:17] bawolff! [05:47:36] legoktm: ! [05:49:32] Isarra: Being concise is an important skill [05:50:08] That's the reason why I ignore everything Verdy says ever, even if he's often at least semi-knowledgeable about what he talks about [05:51:31] huh, what's with the U+FD03 all over the place in the url [06:01:20] bawolff: Yeah, it really is, who is Verdy, and that is weird. [06:02:24] He's some guy from the french projects who occasionally writes literal novels on bugzilla [06:02:49] That are usually semi-off topic, but with just enough on topic to prevent people from telling him its totally off topic [06:02:56] * bawolff gets annoyed by him [06:03:09] rather unrelated to the vector font colour though [06:03:28] or no one reads them to figure out whether they're on topic or not. [06:04:19] Was he the one the "He might actually be sane, but nobody's ever finished reading one of his reports, so nobody knows." was about? >.> [06:04:29] Or was that someone even more so? [06:04:39] Sounds like him [06:05:00] Oh dear. [06:42:13] Hi [06:42:54] Is there a small site which only provides the actual mediawiki version? I'd like to write a small check to get emailed when a new version is available for a specific site. [06:47:48] andi: yeah [06:48:49] andi: this template on mw.org has the version number, you can query for the value in a few ways: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_stable_branch_number [06:49:35] actually, this is better: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_stable_release_number [06:51:08] andi: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:MW_stable_release_number&action=raw to get page content, although this is generallt considered the wrong method [06:51:30] andi: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&format=json&rvprop=content&rvlimit=1&titles=Template%3AMW%20stable%20release%20number to get it wrapped in some JSON [06:58:25] MatmaRex: so this is just a query to the version of mediawiki.org, right? [06:59:21] andi: no. it's a query for the content of the page named "Template:MW stable release number", which someone manually updates whenever there's a new version released [06:59:37] andi: mediawiki.org is running pre-alpha releases :) [07:00:21] Ah, ok that's perfect, thank you! [07:00:25] andi: also, if you just want emails when there's a new version released, you can subscribe to the mediawiki-announce mailing list [07:00:31] (unless you're doing this for fun :) ) [07:01:02] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [07:01:52] hi all, been looking for a nice looking ToC extensions for our mediawiki, but i haven't found, any clues ? [07:02:52] Nope I do have different mediawiki sites and the according admins of them should be notified about new versions, mainly to close security bugs. They should do these updates, because getting hacked is not that much fun. Therefore they get mails from me with a nice hint to update their mediawiki sites. :) [07:03:10] something like the dark blue menu on this page : http://help.blue-spice.org/index.php/Wiki [08:00:24] Haha, quick and dirty, but now my icinga is checking my mediawiki version and I hope it notifies firstly me if there are any updates. [09:15:54] Hi, I have MW 1.23.3. Im trying to install parsoid for windows 7. Now I am stuck at the last part of the installation. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Setup#Install_Parsoid If I type those lines to my command prompt it does not recognize the comand? I am sorry if this is very noobie question, but I am.. Could someone explain to me what should I do here, please? Thanks [09:27:58] Samuel_P_: it assumes you have git already installed. Did you installed git? [09:29:16] Yes I have installed. git, visual basic, node.js and python. [09:29:39] you need npm [09:31:43] I have followed step by step this guide http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Setup#Windows_Setup and now I am stuck at 'Install Parsoid' section [09:34:06] Im very new with this all. So I might not just get everything. Where should I write those lines what the manual offers in 'Install Parsoid'?? [09:34:52] Command prompt? [09:35:10] in the windows command prompt. Although I'm not sure if you're going to be able to complete the process if you don't know some basic knowledge about windows commands and basic administration... [09:36:05] I have granted permissions to all groups [09:37:14] Command prompt does not recognize 'git' at least thats the errot e I get [09:38:08] an example of what basic knowledge means, is to understand what is the %PATH% [09:38:19] basically, git executable is not in the path [09:38:43] you may try to use the full path to the git executable, instead of just writting "git" [09:40:58] If I type 'git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/services/parsoid' It gives me an error. [09:41:28] yes [09:42:26] Samuel_P_: http://www.windows-commandline.com/set-path-command-line/ [09:56:49] Thanks Vulpix. But I am lost here. I have basically never used command prompt and instructions are a bit confusing on /Parsoid/Setup . now I wrote 'setx path "%path%;https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/services/parsoid' and I got message that it worked? I thought i would have downloaded something and I didnt get any folder named parsoid. [09:58:30] well, you've done it wrong, because you can't have an URL in the %PATH% [09:58:55] you can only add there folders [09:59:58] Ok.. [12:28:11] How can I upload images to a wiki? [12:28:18] to a self hosted wiki [12:28:27] !upload | sander^work [12:28:27] sander^work: File uploads are disabled by default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [12:30:24] Vulpix, what about videos? [12:33:00] !video | sander^work [12:33:01] sander^work: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Media_handling_extensions [12:34:59] hi all [13:47:17] grus: Hi! [14:04:35] hi marktraceur [14:05:11] I am looking for an extension or solution for thesaurus [14:05:29] on #semantic-mediawiki the Lingo was suggested but that is mainly for abbreviations as I know [14:08:17] how to add "Whats links here" to Actions menu if not using https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#Add_or_remove_toolbox_sections_.28JavaScript.29 / [14:08:22] ? [14:11:53] grus: Hm, thesaurus...I think semantic-mediawiki should be the solution there, I just don't know how. [14:23:36] grus: something like this? http://tieteentermipankki.fi/ [14:28:21] marktraceur I suspected the same, but could not find solution on the smw webpage [14:28:35] Nemo_bis maybe, it is a bit Greek to me... [14:28:58] Surely it's Finnish? ;) [14:29:03] :D [14:29:11] I am done here ;) [14:29:18] so it is Fin(n)ish... [14:30:12] Nemo_bis thanks, with google translate it seems okay, hopefully it will do what we need [14:49:34] bye [14:49:40] Reedy: No, it's just getting started [14:49:43] Never gets old [16:15:39] Hey guys, when i set $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL; (using php xcache), i get a mediawiki fatal exception and "[2e8bd162] 2014-09-24 16:13:29: Fatal exception of type MWException" if i remove that option (comment it out or put it to none) MEDIAWIKI WORKS? [16:15:53] !debug [16:15:53] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [16:16:16] cheers [16:16:28] a stack trace should enlighten a little [16:19:26] Reedy: this is wierd.. [16:19:26] [800491cb] /index.php?title=Main_Page Exception from line 133 of /usr/share/webapps/mediawiki/includes/objectcache/ObjectCache.php: CACHE_ACCEL requested but no suitable object cache is present. You may want to install APC. [16:19:33] yet APC/Xcache are installed [16:19:37] and enabled in php.ini [16:19:44] and showing in phpinfo() page [16:20:39] phpinfo accessed via your webserver? [16:20:40] oh, i never restarted php-fpm as i forgot it was a sevice wonder if this fixed it [16:20:43] yes [16:21:11] woohoo fixed! :) i forgot to restart php-fpm silly me. [16:21:19] however, its still loading slow hrm [16:21:39] might take a few requests for apc to warm up etc [16:21:46] ok cool [16:21:52] i've got other errors now this is odd [16:21:54] Warning: xcache_set(): XCache var cache was not initialized properly. Check php log for actual reason in /usr/share/webapps/mediawiki/includes/objectcache/XCacheBagOStuff.php on line 67 [16:32:36] man this sucks so much i just want a damn wiki lol [16:33:14] Reedy: any ideas whats wrong witht his: http://codepad.org/OBSXobUH - mediawiki loads but now moans about xcache (reason im trying to get xcache working is becase mediawiki is unusable on my system without some type of caching) [16:33:39] personally, I'd probably just use apc for bytecode cache, then memcached for everything else [16:35:11]

yet APC/Xcache are installed <-- I hope you don't have *both* caches enabled in php.ini, because they are incompatible [16:38:55] well, from your output, it says you have Zend OPcache and XCache. I guess that is the problem [17:10:51] hi [17:11:23] Hi rodel [17:11:40] hi mark [17:12:14] is it possible to register company in wikipedia add some details [17:13:12] rodel: Try #wikipedia-en-help [17:13:33] i'm trying it by it is always deleted automaticaly [18:08:43] hi [18:08:49] i was disconnected [18:08:57] i created a page again [18:09:05] please check [18:09:33] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rodelmiranda/sandbox/aafaq_islamic_finance#aafaq_islamic_finance [18:11:07] rodelmiranda: Please go to #wikipedia-en-help. [18:11:13] This is not a place for help with Wikipedia [18:18:03] Reedy: do you remember what this https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/Reedy was about? (10 months ago :) [18:18:42] Nope... [18:25:15] andre__: watching the hangout, no idea how to connect there so that I can speak, so I will ask you here, how / when is the migration of current projects like huggle going to happen? [18:25:36] wasn't there at beginning so maybe you already discussed that [18:26:14] petan: #wikimedia-office [18:26:54] legoktm: huh? what there [18:27:21] that's where all discussion about the hangout is taking place, you should ask in there. [18:31:34] interesting, REL1_22 works with Oracle, while REL1_23 does not [18:34:01] wmat: devs changed/introduced features that weren't tested in oracle [18:34:19] Vulpix: indeed [19:06:50] Is there any platform where tar -xvzf is better than tar xvzf? Or is the user just confused? https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3AUpgrading&diff=1185638&oldid=1175422 [19:15:09] the - is not needed, and will probably cause problems [19:16:41] well, actually it won't produce errors because "f" is the last one, but if for whatever reason you shuffle those letters, it will fail [19:24:14] spam: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.119.113.96 [19:24:45] nuked [19:26:05] thanks! [19:30:13] gblocked now [19:39:19] Reedy: thanks, MatmaRex found it, it was https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55471#c6, sorry for noise [19:43:12] hi Yaron [19:43:46] Hi! [19:47:46] how are you [19:50:57] Good; how are you?