[04:21:35] <Aizo>	 Howdy.
[04:21:54] <Aizo>	 So, I'm having a bit of confusion with regards to there being two different DPL extensions.
[04:22:42] <Aizo>	 It seems that the third party manual has parameters for mode that no longer exist. This may not be an issue, but I could use a quick bit of advice if anyone's around.
[04:23:40] <Aizo>	 Basically I want to pull all the page titles from different categories and list them inline (i.e. horizontally, not vertically). Considering the 'mode = inline' functionality is gone, how can I create the same effect?
[05:26:46] <Kuu_Otava>	 Heyyyy campers!  Does anyone here know of an easy modification that can be made to Mediawiki to make background images for tables possible?
[05:27:37] <Carmela>	 Kuu_Otava: You can add a usable class to the page "MediaWiki:Common.css".
[05:27:50] <Kuu_Otava>	 ... O.O That's a PAGE?
[05:28:01] <Carmela>	 Yes.
[05:28:10] <Carmela>	 .custom-class-name { background-image: /path/to/image.png; }
[05:28:14] <Carmela>	 Or whatever the syntax is.
[05:28:24] <Carmela>	 Then you use... {| class="custom-class-name"
[05:28:26] <Carmela>	 And that should work.
[05:28:32] <Kuu_Otava>	 ...
[05:28:32] <Kuu_Otava>	 That's...
[05:28:42] <Kuu_Otava>	 ... Huh..
[05:29:49] <Kuu_Otava>	 Will it work cell by cell, or will it only affect the whole table, or both?
[05:30:05] <Carmela>	 Depends how you craft your CSS.
[05:30:09] <Carmela>	 And how you craft your HTML markup.
[05:30:12] <Carmela>	 You can do either.
[05:30:47] <Carmela>	 Are you using tables for layout?
[05:31:22] <Kuu_Otava>	 For a particular section of the page, yes.
[05:31:22] <Kuu_Otava>	 I'm aiming at using this for an infobox.
[05:31:23] <Kuu_Otava>	 (Several infoboxes really)
[05:31:42] <Kuu_Otava>	 *ponders* Do you happen to know if there's a way to make the image reactive?
[05:31:56] <Kuu_Otava>	 So that in the event the infobox is larger/smaller, it'll stretch to fit?
[05:32:06] <Carmela>	 You can do that with CSS.
[05:32:13] <Carmela>	 Though you probably don't need to use a table.
[05:32:17] <Carmela>	 You can probably use divs.
[05:32:44] <Kuu_Otava>	 .. Could probably use a % size on the width: height: designators.
[05:32:44] <Kuu_Otava>	 Carmela, that'd be fantastic if I knew anything about CSS. ;)
[05:32:58] <Kuu_Otava>	 The works already done, I'm just looking to pretty up the finished project.
[05:33:15] <Carmela>	 Try some simple searches in a search engine
[05:33:15] <Carmela>	 .
[05:33:28] <Carmela>	 You should be able to find dozens of blogs and other sites explaining this with code samples.
[05:34:09] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 did someone test the MW 1.23.4 to 1.23.3 already?
[05:34:15] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 I get some non-usual stuff:
[05:34:28] <Carmela>	 Downgrading?
[05:34:43] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 upgrading from 1.23.3 to 1.23.4 
[05:34:50] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 it wants to patch a file in: mediawiki-1.23.3/tests/phpunit/includes/upload/
[05:35:42] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 I have no such dir mediawiki-1.23.3
[05:35:55] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 seems like from a test-install or so of the guy who created the patch
[05:38:08] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 should I send this to the mailinglist ?
[05:38:13] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 (if no one acts here)
[05:45:39] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 sent a mail to Markus Glaser + the MLs
[06:08:05] <Svetlana>	 Is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Tool_idea better as a tool or an extension?
[06:25:31] <Kuu_Otava>	 Greetings again, I'm sorry to keep pestering you, I'm apparently too clever for my own good... >.<
[06:25:52] <Kuu_Otava>	 If I said I'm trying to format a table within a table, would that make sense?  I'm also failing at this task.
[06:27:51] <Kuu_Otava>	 Nested tables! That's the term!
[06:31:45] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Kuu_Otava: it's possible, but generally nopt a good idea
[06:31:53] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 if all else fails, you can use html syntax for tables.
[06:31:57] <Kuu_Otava>	 *peers at you* Shhhhhh.
[06:31:58] <Kuu_Otava>	 XD
[06:32:05] <Kuu_Otava>	 Seriously though, why not a good idea?
[07:20:09] <Me4502>	 Hey, so I just updated Mediawiki to the latest stable release. Now it just shows blank pages
[07:20:15] <Me4502>	 http://server.me4502.com/wiki/
[07:30:19] <Me4502>	 nvm, there was a odd error with php
[10:01:50] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 hm, still no mail by Markus Glaser
[10:07:22] <Svetlana>	 (resent #1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Tool_idea good to write it as an extension or as a tool?
[10:07:53] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 here's what I sent via mail: http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Pastebin#Mediawiki_upgrade_.281.23.3_to_1.23.4.29_not_possible_via_patch
[10:29:18] <andre__>	 Erkan_Yilmaz: so you can create such dirs wherever you like if you don't have them, and afterwards copy the code to the correct place on the server. I am not sure what the request is.
[10:30:51] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 well, I don't use phpunit, so why should I create it?
[10:31:00] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 the last time I had that, the dev also fixed something
[10:31:18] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 normally patch just runs through without asking questions
[10:31:38] <andre__>	 my comment was not related to phpunit, but your first item.
[10:32:20] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 ok
[10:32:22] <andre__>	 but you are right with the second issue, looks like the tests folder was not included in the mediawiki-1.23.3.tar.gz tarball. Hmm.
[10:32:39] <andre__>	 worth a bug report I'd say
[10:32:40] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 I looked at the bugs, and seems nothing critical, so I'll wait some more
[10:32:49] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 bugs (in this release)
[10:38:05] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 thx for looking into it, andre__ 
[10:52:12] <zoidberg->	 Hello, I am having a really odd issue with PHP / Xcache.  I am running this on Archlinux (raspberry pi), Basically, I am trying to use Xcache to speed up mediawiki, here is my phpinfo(): http://codepad.org/4I7yQIP5, here is the error i get: http://codepad.org/vXeQjeT5, here is my php.ini and xcache.ini conf: http://codepad.org/mEEj1hDJ (last pate has a bit more info in it)
[10:52:17] <zoidberg->	 if anyone can help me out, i would really appriciate it, i can't figure out what the problem is :(
[10:52:43] <Nemo_bis>	 ::::We shouldn't, thankfully, or else all of us would have free reign to wreak havoc on the website. • &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:smaallydoit
[10:55:41] <Svetlana>	 giggles
[11:34:53] <sushmareddy>	 hey 
[11:35:12] <Piotrek>	 Hi.
[11:35:40] <sushmareddy>	 do you have any idea about Wikipedia Education Program tools ??
[11:36:01] <Piotrek>	 me?
[11:37:45] <sushmareddy>	 yeah 
[12:10:17] <zoidberg->	 ARGGGGGHHHH... does anyone here using Mediawiki on Archlinux, using nginx/php-fpm/xcache??? I am having the most wierd problems with Xcache and i cannot fix them :( making my wiki compltyl unsuable because its so slow :( please can someone help me 
[12:53:18] <HarkonenBade>	 hmm, If I have a question about creating a tag/parser extension should I ask it here or #wikimedia-dev?
[12:55:34] <HarkonenBade>	 Well, it could also potentially be solved using some template hacking, but i'm not sure if it is possible
[13:44:38] <impacific>	 when making a new config varibale (eg. $wgFoo) do we need to register it somewhere??
[13:45:57] <Reedy>	 DefaultSettings.php if it's in core
[13:48:19] <baxi69>	 hi@all
[13:49:22] <baxi69>	 one question. can i replace a JS function which is for example in an extension by another in Mediawiki:Common.js, like i can do it with css in Common.css?
[14:12:02] <HarkonenBade>	 Is there any way for a template to detect the difference between single and multiple level transclusion?
[14:32:14] <jackmcbarn>	 HarkonenBade: sort of, but not a good one
[14:32:40] <jackmcbarn>	 you can write a Scribunto module that sees if frame:getParent():getTitle() is the same as mw.title.getCurrentTitle()
[14:36:17] <jackmcbarn>	 actually, even that wouldn't work. your original "template" would have to be a module itself, or it would be on the wrong level
[15:48:05] <alisha>	 Hello 
[15:48:14] <sumanah>	 Hi alisha 
[15:49:14] <alisha>	 I want to work on Extensive and robust localisation file format coverage project under FOSS opw
[15:49:25] <alisha>	 So please guide how to start
[15:49:31] <sumanah>	 alisha: good to meet you!
[15:49:34] <sumanah>	 I'm Sumana Harihareswara
[15:49:45] <sumanah>	 I'm at the Wikimedia Foundation - I am not an expert in this specific project
[15:49:55] <Niharika>	 Hi alisha, hi sumanah. 
[15:50:08] <alisha>	 Hello Niharika
[15:50:11] <Niharika>	 alisha: I'm an ex-OPW intern with Wikimedia. :) 
[15:50:24] <alisha>	 So please guide me for it
[15:50:37] <Niharika>	 sumanah: Do you have time for a quick chat? PM?
[15:50:51] <sumanah>	 Niharika: yes
[15:51:00] <Niharika>	 alisha: I don't have expertise about that project, but I'm looking.
[15:51:13] <alisha>	 Ok
[15:51:14] <Reedy>	 Link?
[15:51:17] <sumanah>	 alisha: so I see in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FOSS_Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_9#Extensive_and_robust_localisation_file_format_coverage that there are some mentors listed
[15:51:23] <sumanah>	 alisha:  Niklas Laxstr�m, Federico Leva, Siebrand Mazeland
[15:51:34] <Reedy>	 Nikerabbit: Nemo_bis: ^^
[15:51:42] <sumanah>	 I know their IRC nicknames - Nikerabbit and Nemo_bis are the first two
[15:51:59] <alisha>	 OK
[15:52:00] <sumanah>	 I checked using /whois and siebrand is not around right now
[15:52:21] <alisha>	 Thank you
[15:52:29] <sumanah>	 alisha: did you already try reaching out to Niklas or either of the other mentors, via email or some other method?
[15:52:55] <alisha>	 I have just send the introductory mail to the mailing list
[15:53:06] <greg-g>	 alisha: I assume you're the same Alisha who emailed wikitech-l? (also, welcome :) )
[15:53:08] <sumanah>	 alisha: that's a good first step
[15:53:14] <alisha>	 YES
[15:53:15] * greg-g is doing morning email reading
[15:53:25] <alisha>	 Thank You
[15:54:02] <sumanah>	 alisha: have you ever contributed to an open source project before? I ask so I can give you appropriate advice
[15:55:10] <alisha>	 Actually not exactly
[15:55:18] <sumanah>	 alisha: that's fine :)
[15:55:33] <sumanah>	 alisha: Outreach Program for Women is meant to help newcomers like you
[15:55:44] <sumanah>	 I'm impressed that you got onto IRC and that you emailed the mailing list
[15:55:45] <alisha>	 But I have helped my friend in doing so
[15:56:05] <alisha>	 Thank you
[15:56:24] <alisha>	 I have worked on DXF libraries
[15:56:29] <Niharika>	 alisha: You can start doing some stuff that is common for almost all projects already: Learning git, setting up Mediawiki and getting on gerrit. 
[15:56:57] <alisha>	 I have my github account
[15:57:15] <alisha>	 I very commonly use to update my projects
[15:57:27] <Reedy>	 Sounds like "Learning git" is probably already done then :)
[15:57:43] <alisha>	 You can say
[15:57:51] <Reedy>	 gerrit is similar, but has some quirks
[15:58:07] <alisha>	 Ok
[15:58:10] <alisha>	 I will try
[15:58:34] <alisha>	 Can you introduce me about gerrit
[15:58:55] <Niharika>	 alisha: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial
[15:59:12] <Reedy>	 You'll want to create an account at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page if you haven't already
[15:59:23] <sumanah>	 alisha: I think you will also find http://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2014/02/26/0 useful - it has some tips about open source communication
[15:59:54] <alisha>	 I will definitely go through these links
[15:59:57] <sumanah>	 alisha: great!
[16:00:32] <sumanah>	 also alisha have you made a user page on mediawiki.org? that will be a good thing to do, to introduce yourself
[16:01:36] <Nemo_bis>	 I also corrected some bug lists links in the project description, it was pointed out they were working only for me ;)
[16:01:43] <alisha>	 No I haven't yet But will do it as early as possible
[16:02:10] <sumanah>	 :)
[16:04:09] <Nemo_bis>	 No shortage of todos as a start :)
[16:05:52] <alisha>	 Ok I will go through them again
[16:13:58] <Nemo_bis>	 alisha: what do you mean by technical tips? 
[16:28:00] <alisha>	 I mean something like in which side should I start
[16:28:45] <alisha>	 Like some tutorials may prefer and introduction to the project
[16:29:06] <alisha>	 In more detail
[16:41:22] <sumanah>	 good luck alisha_ 
[16:41:43] <alisha_>	 Thank you
[17:05:25] <jubo2>	 Happy FLGOSS devel appreaciation day everyone
[17:09:34] <MC8>	 what does the G stand for again?
[17:09:53] <marktraceur>	 Gratis?
[17:11:59] <MC8>	 "free (both kinds!) open source software" seems a tad redundant
[17:13:25] <jubo2>	 Free as in beer
[17:13:30] <jubo2>	 mine cost 1€ / can
[17:15:02] <jubo2>	 now I gotta go home and upgrade the servers to a non shellshock vulnerable versions
[17:17:01] <jubo2>	 btw only 92 days to go to Boxing Day Boozathon 2014, the 4th annual installment of excessive intoxication and sacre merde jokes
[17:17:35] <marktraceur>	 That seems on topic.
[17:26:05] <Nemo_bis>	 cscott: beware, an entire list of magical beasts of Harry Potter may get angry at you if they discover they're completely suppressed from PDF output of http://parsoid-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org/enwiki/Magical+creatures+%28Harry+Potter%29?oldid=355938673 ;)  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Book&bookcmd=render_article&arttitle=Magical+creatures+%28Harry+Potter%29&oldid=355938673&writer=rdf2latex
[17:27:49] <cscott>	 Nemo_bis: yes, most tables are suppressed right now. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107587 adds table support, but it makes most output look worse.  i need to more intelligently handle table size, page breaking w/in tables, cell alignment, etc.
[17:29:34] <Nemo_bis>	 sure, tables are a can of worms
[17:29:48] <cscott>	 i'll watch out for magical beasts, though.
[17:29:50] <Nemo_bis>	 isn't div col supposed to be easier
[17:31:28] <cscott>	 i can probably special case '<table class=multicol>' which is what harry potter uses.
[17:31:43] <Nemo_bis>	 Special casing Harry Potter sounds wise
[17:35:07] <cscott>	 Nemo_bis: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71317
[18:49:14] <Nemo_bis>	 gwicke: is this correct? http://parsoid-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org/frwikibooks/Programmation_C_sharp%2FUn_premier_programme?oldid=428741
[19:11:26] <Nemo_bis>	 maybe cscott knows
[19:14:13] <gwicke>	 Nemo_bis: the CSS looks odd there
[19:15:29] <gwicke>	 Nemo_bis: the unstyled content towards the end has a span of class mw-content-ltr
[19:16:07] <gwicke>	 although earlier content has that too
[19:16:25] <gwicke>	 not sure what causes the box to not extend all the way down; the DOM looks okay at first sight
[19:22:41] <Nemo_bis>	 gwicke: that page is a bit esoteric indeed
[19:22:49] <Nemo_bis>	 In the meanwhile I filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71326 for a part which seems unrelated
[19:24:36] <gwicke>	 Nemo_bis: thanks!
[19:27:04] * wmat curses Oracle :/
[20:03:58] <Lcawte>	 !semantic
[20:03:58] <wm-bot>	 Semantic MediaWiki is MediaWiki extension that lets you store and query data within the wiki's pages. It has a dedicated IRC channel at #semantic-mediawiki.
[20:40:21] <gkr>	 Hi all
[20:41:06] <gkr>	 I am trying to install MediaWiki 1.23.4 
[20:41:55] <gkr>	 I am on centos 6.4
[20:41:58] <Vulpix>	 heh, that reminds me of something...
[20:42:24] <Vulpix>	 we always forget to update channel topic!
[20:43:11] <gkr>	 I have copied everything to document root 
[20:44:14] <gkr>	 And while accessing the index.php  it says MediaWiki 1.23.4  LocalSettings.php not found.
[20:44:25] <gkr>	 Please set up the wiki first.
[20:44:40] <Vulpix>	 well, until that step, that's correct
[20:45:18] <gkr>	 when i click on the setup , its getting redirected to a blank pg ../mw-config/index.php
[20:46:20] <gkr>	 I am lost at this point 
[20:47:20] <Vulpix>	 !blank
[20:47:20] <wm-bot>	 A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug>.
[20:47:54] <Vulpix>	 gkr: since you don't have LocalSettings.php, you should look at your webserver's error log
[20:48:19] <Vulpix>	 or turn on error_reporting in php.ini
[20:48:24] <gkr>	 ok, let me have a look
[20:48:31] <Vulpix>	 at least to know what error message do you get
[20:52:19] <gkr>	  PHP Fatal error:  Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /var/www/html/wiki/includes/cache/LocalisationCache.php 
[20:52:23] <gkr>	 tats the error
[20:52:57] <Reedy>	 gkr: You need php-xml
[20:53:01] <Vulpix>	 gkr: you should install php with xml support, maybe the php-xml package or something
[20:53:01] <Reedy>	 Not sure what it's called on centos
[20:56:38] <gkr>	 ok , installed it with all the dep. modules 
[20:57:29] <gkr>	 need a apache bounce ?
[20:57:51] <Vulpix>	 yes, or at least a -k gracefult
[20:57:59] <Vulpix>	 * -k graceful
[20:58:43] <Vulpix>	 still, some centos installations are known to cause PHP segfaults for still unknown reasons. If that ever happens to you, you'll have to recompile PHP yourself :(
[21:01:19] <gkr>	 well well well..its coming up :)
[21:01:56] <gkr>	 Error starting session: session_start(): open(/var/lib/php/session/sess_fiabgiee99isf157alf9ur3f52, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13)
[21:02:53] <Reedy>	 that's a file permission error then ;)
[21:03:02] <Reedy>	 user running php/webserver can't write to that dir
[21:03:15] <Vulpix>	 give write permissions to /var/lib/php/session/ to the user running apache
[21:05:32] <gkr>	 checking
[21:10:04] <gkr>	 fixed tat and did a f5, Bingo !!
[21:10:08] <gkr>	 got it :)
[21:10:54] <gkr>	 Thanks for the helping hand @Vulpix and @Reedy 
[21:11:08] <gkr>	 Good day folks 
[23:32:13] <Svetlana>	 hello