[04:44:16] hello [04:44:25] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Lighttpd_rewrite--root_access [04:44:37] to delte index.php from my link [04:44:50] but i search in my host about lighttpd.conf [04:44:58] i did not find out any [04:46:15] hrmz [04:46:22] i thought you're using apache not lighthttpd [04:46:26] yes [04:47:51] now what should i do? [05:00:38] could help me??? [05:01:52] are you here? [05:21:20] why not answer me? [05:25:58] could anybody help me? [05:26:20] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Lighttpd_rewrite--root_access, to delte index.php from my link, but i search in my host about lighttpd.conf [05:54:31] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Lighttpd_rewrite--root_access, to delte index.php from my link, but i search in my host about lighttpd.conf [05:54:37] could anybody help? [06:06:26] : i should use this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_Windows_%26_Apache_without_403_on_Special_Pages [06:06:30] yes? [06:13:54] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_Windows_%26_Apache_without_403_on_Special_Pages to delte index.php from my link, but i search in my host about Vhost [06:13:58] but nothing [06:46:13] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_Windows_%26_Apache_without_403_on_Special_Pages to delte index.php from my link, but i search in my host about Vhost [07:02:41] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_Windows_%26_Apache_without_403_on_Special_Pages to delte index.php from my link, but i search in my host about Vhost [07:34:44] i use this website http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_Windows_%26_Apache_without_403_on_Special_Pages to delte index.php from my link, but i search in my host about Vhost [07:34:50] could you please answer me [07:37:11] it would be helpful if you described what os you're using, what webserver you're using, and what you've tried so far with what results [07:37:36] i asked you yesterday about my link [07:37:37] as you keep linking to documentation about 403 errors but just "it is 403" is not detailed enough to identify the problem :) [07:37:56] http://parsintelligent.com/wiki/index.php?title=%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%85_HDL-Bus#.D9.86.D8.B1.D9.85_.D8.A7.D9.81.D8.B2.D8.A7.D9.87.D8.A7.DB.8C_.D8.A8.D8.B1.D9.86.D8.A7.D9.85.D9.87_.D8.B1.DB.8C.D8.B2.DB.8C_.D8.B4.D8.A8.DA.A9.D9.87_HDL-Bus [07:38:01] this is one of my link [07:38:06] which is no well-defiend [07:38:22] understand what i mean? [07:39:21] now, understand what i mean? [07:42:07] what does "no well-defiend" mean? [07:45:02] please see the link [07:45:10] it is not good link to send client [07:45:53] sasan: yeah, you still have long URL instead of the short URL (as the manual suggests). [07:46:13] but i can not change it [07:46:17] i ask about this dear [07:47:41] what webserver are you using, what OS are you using, what have you tried so far, and what results do you get [07:47:56] and if it's 403, then what error message do you get in the webserver logs [07:48:22] oh and also what URL you would like to see [07:48:44] 1 minute [07:53:20] yeah, clearly if I took a minute to type http://dpaste.com/1EM10YN/duplicate it's the time to quit [08:04:12] sorry [08:04:15] i be offline [08:34:55] hello [08:35:11] : sorry i go offline [08:35:15] sasan [08:35:23] sasan try to answer here please http://dpaste.com/1EM10YN/duplicate [08:41:19] i could get your needed data in Special:version??? [08:45:21] go for it [08:54:21] : i got these data: MediaWiki 1.23.3 PHP 5.4.33 (cgi-fcgi) MySQL 5.5.36-cll-lve [08:54:25] is it ok? [08:57:37] enough? [09:06:19] I don't know what webserver you're uring [09:06:20] using [09:06:23] what is your native language? [09:08:21] Svetlana: and what is yours? [09:08:31] russian [09:08:44] русские идут [09:09:24] It was pointed out to me numerous times that I am not engaging enough when I talk to people, and that I'm too abrasive. I can clearly see that it's taking more than 2 days to understand sasan. [09:09:38] I'm not sure how I can improve that... [09:10:40] sorry, yes, but relay i do not know [09:10:41] :( [09:10:49] this feeling when everything i wanted to have in my mediawik installation has been realized. it is in the state of perfection. i need ideas. [09:11:16] when are they going to implement realtime editing? [09:11:29] when are they going to get rid of parsoid in visualeditor? [09:12:03] could remote to my pc and show me? [09:12:08] gleki: it is my understanding that they're releasing their software freely and you are free to make any edits you desire (such as, not install parsoid if you don't need it; it is optional). [09:12:49] sasan: if you replace "________" in that paste with details, and click submit, I'll be able to help from there. [09:12:57] Svetlana: no, i mean when will visualeditor be improved to sucha degree that parsoid would be not necessary [09:13:31] replace what? [09:14:00] gleki: there was a presentation to the effect that HTML is too flexible and not everything HTML can be converted to wiki markup (and vice versa). I think that visualeditor itself (the funny javascripty thing) plays a small role here -- validating user input needs to be done server-side. [09:14:36] sasan: http://dpaste.com/1EM10YN/duplicate [09:14:54] i mean i paste what? [09:15:01] ok [09:15:02] i got it [09:15:03] sorry [09:15:08] good! :) [09:19:49] i just paste my version [09:19:51] nothing else [09:19:54] you could check [09:19:58] why nothing else? [09:20:48] I'm sorry, I think I'm degenerating. I notice that more and more people fail to hear me. [09:20:53] * Svetlana shuts up. [09:22:32] i do not know what are those [09:22:36] i run it in my host [09:22:42] pelase understand me a bt [09:23:14] sasan: ok, I will try again. [09:23:19] sasan: what web server are you using? [09:23:44] i use host, our host run on linux [09:23:48] i just know these [09:24:27] i did vagrant up and while downloading image it stopped after 55% ...anything I can do to resume it? [09:25:21] these data can not help you? [09:27:43] :( [09:28:58] looks like News extension is mostly useless and can be replaced with DPL queries [09:32:28] sasan: no. [09:32:44] could you help me through remote [09:32:44] ? [09:32:48] if you help me [09:32:50] sasan: I can not help you without knowing which webserver you're using. [09:32:52] i will thank you:( [09:33:14] if you help me [09:33:21] i promise to do my best [09:33:36] you mena apache?? [09:34:53] i use PHP ver 5.4.33 [09:35:09] and mySQL: 5.5.36 [09:41:47] OK, apache. [09:41:52] what version of apache? [09:47:00] i called host, and host told me i should wait to get its version [09:47:03] could you wait? [10:06:01] could wait [10:06:02] ? [10:18:45] online? [10:19:11] yes, I am. [10:20:48] OK, my host did not answer yet [10:54:40] I tried to make a commit using vagrant development environment but I receive an error when I try to use git-review. There seems to be a bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62844 . Is there any workaround to keep using vagrant or do I have to use a manual installation? [10:56:45] let me see [10:57:03] The error I receive is this one: http://pastebin.com/Vh2zgU4F [10:57:53] I think the problem is that git clone was done use HTTP [10:57:59] can you show me your "git remote -v" ? [10:58:43] Sure, this is the output: http://pastebin.com/LM9EAxHP [10:59:56] yeah [11:00:04] what's your gerrit username? [11:00:19] tuxilina [11:02:08] can you try "git remote add gerrit ssh://tuxilina@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git" [11:02:51] the problem is, our gitreview/gerrit combo won't probably work via HTTP [11:04:15] so this commands adds a new git "remote" (site pointer) which accesses Gerrit via SSH with your ssh key [11:04:42] I did this just now, the output for git remote -v is http://pastebin.com/uGFwwj2D but when I try git review I receive the same error [11:06:32] good [11:06:44] can you "git remote update" ? [11:07:37] I did this, then I tried once again git review -s, still same error [11:08:10] ok, so "git remote rm origin" [11:08:14] or [11:08:18] rename origin to something else [11:08:38] I think vagrant has some strange version of git-review packaged [11:09:47] oh, it worked, now I only get remote: ERROR: missing Change-Id in commit message footer .I thought this is added automatically [11:10:13] no, it didn't because "git-review -s" didn't work so there is no hook adding Change-Id's [11:10:46] the output for git-review -s is null [11:10:50] good [11:10:56] because it's already set-up [11:11:14] do you have one commit ahead of git master now? [11:11:59] (you can check using "git log HEAD ^master" ) [11:13:12] yes, I am one commit ahead: http://pastebin.com/X2vN7c5Q [11:14:10] so just try to "git commit --amend" now [11:15:04] ok, I did that [11:17:53] and now try to submit [11:18:12] (I hope your new commit log has commit id now) - check with "git log HEAD ^master" [11:18:57] yes,now it has a Change-Id [11:20:20] and it's in gerrit :) [11:20:26] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/164726/ [11:20:28] \o/ [11:21:28] fwiw I got stuck at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki-Vagrant#The_networking_pain if you happen to know [11:21:34] yey, thank you so much for the help! [11:32:28] : i use Apache/2.4.9 (Unix) [11:32:33] could you help now [11:35:33] online?? [11:41:01] tuxilina: happy it works [11:43:26] where are you??? [11:45:44] could any body help me?? [11:55:07] sasan: no [11:55:48] why? [11:55:55] why no body can help? [11:56:26] because we can't figure out what's wrong with your setup, sorry [11:56:44] i did not add setup [11:57:16] with your configuration I mean [11:57:38] tuxilina: looks like there is a proble with the default checkout in Vagrant [11:58:09] Quick question: Is there an IRC for the AbuseFilter extension? [11:58:10] ok, you could help me setup correct format [11:59:52] sasan: sorry, no help from me [12:00:33] sasan: maybe talk to your local, farsi-speaking community to help you; try meeting with somebody who knows MediaWiki in person if there is somebody in your area. [12:00:49] saper: should I use from now on the manual installation? Here (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#Set_up_your_environment) it says that Vagrant is the preferred method. [12:02:01] tuxilina: right now your repository should work, with or without vagrant [12:02:34] Hm. Seems I can't find any channels for the AF. So I'll ask in here. Would anyone know why edits would match a filter but the extension would fail to actually prevent the edit (when I enabled said setting during filter creation)? [12:02:58] tuxilina: and I took the liberty to delete that sentence [12:03:31] justin_zw: can you paste particular filter definition? [12:03:42] Sure. One sec. [12:04:36] added_links & (article_namespace == 2) & !("autoconfirmed" | "patrol" | "sysop" | "bureaucrat" in user_groups) [12:04:52] Set to be not publicly visible and to prevent the edit in question. [12:06:18] let me long in into a wiki [12:06:32] "autoconfirmed" | "patrol" | "sysop" | "bureaucrat" in user_groups this one looks bogus to me [12:06:43] The syntax checks out [12:07:58] yeah, but "in" is probably a low preference operator [12:08:20] So you're saying it's probably only checking bureaucrat. [12:09:14] in returns true if the right-hand operand [12:09:18] yes [12:09:24] and the rest is alway "true" [12:09:40] ("autoconfirmed" | something ) will be true [12:09:58] Hrm. That's what I get for wanting to simplify things. [12:10:03] maybe contains_any [12:10:13] is better [12:10:54] I am using just multiple "xxx" in user_groups normally [12:13:41] I guess I'll try that [12:13:56] But that still doesn't explain why the edits match the filter but aren't stopped [12:14:10] Do you need memcached to prevent edits from happening? [12:14:20] Because if so, my day just got a thousand times worse. [12:16:44] no [12:17:13] but something was misteriously failing without memcached, let me check... [12:21:40] My setup is load balanced between two webservers, and I still haven't found a way to share sessions between the two servers using memcached. [12:22:11] but do you have some object cache? [12:22:14] Ended up having to go with files stored in a non-readable directory. [12:22:39] Would that be considered an object cache or are you talking about like... using the .cache directory? [12:22:46] (If it is a hidden dir; can't remember) [12:23:08] I know LocalSettings has some configuration for using a cache directory [12:23:41] no, $wgMainCacheType, $wgParserCacheType, $wgMessageCacheType [12:23:56] Let me check LocalSettings [12:24:48] CACHE_NONE [12:24:51] So no. [12:25:18] this speeds up things a lot [12:25:29] I'm guessing that's a requirements. [12:25:33] *requirement [12:25:38] checking [12:25:53] there was one bug in bugzilla I filed where memcached was silently required for something [12:25:59] not sure if it's AbuseFilter or not [12:26:30] I think it was one of debugging facilities [12:34:40] ...but bugzilla is still pondering ?:) [12:36:32] justin_zw: yeah, AF seems to be using $wgMemc heavily [12:36:46] Fantastic. [12:36:59] That really needs to be documented on MediaWiki.org [12:37:08] Could've saved me a lot of time. [12:37:22] Although now one headache ends and another begins. Thank you, saper. [12:51:31] justin_zw: but *maybe* you can use memcached only for that? [12:52:13] Already found a solution, and my other sysadmin and I are working on it =D [12:52:23] ah no, it's $wgMainCacheType [12:53:09] or CACHE_DB (slower) [12:53:26] Nah, we figured out how to share memcached sessions in a server pool [12:53:37] I didn't think you could, but the other guy found a way [12:55:57] I thought memcached is distributed :) [13:39:22] What's the properway to get the file url from a title? IN an old extension I find Image::newFromName but the class 'Image' doesn't exist [13:41:17] wfFindFile :) [13:42:13] I have the feeling that MW will lose many users if extensions keep dying as they do atm. Some of my favorite extensions are not maintained anymore. [13:53:20] Hello there. Does anyone of you speak german? It would be nice [14:14:37] mib_fxknnx Ja hier. [16:29:42] when I run 2 wikis on the same domain, will memcached get confused with the internal IDs? [16:30:13] If they have different database names (or even database prefixes), then it should be fine [16:30:57] to be technical, memcached keys are prefixed with wfWikiId(), which is either your database name if you have no db prefix, or "databasename-dbprefix" if you have a prefix [16:32:41] Ah, I see: key MyDatabaseName:preprocess-xml:... [16:43:25] Doubt you're still here, saper, but in the event you are, we got everything running nicely. Thanks for your help earlier. [16:47:38] hi.. im not able to run mediawiki vagrant. When I do vagrant up it gives errors related to mounting, and GuestAdditions seems to be installed but not running etc. Can someone look here https://gist.github.com/ImPacific/60a163aa42b937bbaaa2#file-vagrant-L166 and tell me what's going wrong [16:53:11] justin_zw: great to hear that (I just came back to read this!) [17:09:27] =D [17:43:39] now how should i proceed with patches [17:45:25] alisha: did you prepare a patch in git? [17:46:38] no actually I am not getting where to see the code? [17:46:53] I am not getting hoe to get started? [17:47:05] s/how/hoe [17:47:06] alisha: Did you install MediaWiki yet? [17:47:10] yes [17:47:18] alisha: Using vagrant? [17:47:34] No, not yet [17:47:38] alisha: Did you setup a gerrit account? [17:48:11] Wait, I'm not clear. You have MW running on your setup, right? [17:48:44] yes [17:49:47] alisha: Did you setup a gerrit account? [17:49:48] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ [17:50:27] no not yet [17:50:40] hi all - is there a way to use javascript/jquery to add wikitext? i want to add a '.append' or something to add a specialpage - [17:51:16] specifically, i want to .append to mw-editsection a second button that links to {{Special:Upload}} [17:53:07] @Niharika Done with gerrit [17:53:35] alisha: You'll have to add your public key to gerrit. [17:53:43] sinix, no. Append HTML [17:53:55] alisha: Let me find you the tutorial, hang on. [17:54:02] Ok [17:54:14] Krenair: ok, thanks :( [17:54:58] sinix, you can see how VisualEditor does it in modules/ve-mw/init/targets/ve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget.init.js [17:56:52] the tutorial for gerrit setup : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial [17:57:31] Thanks tuxilina [17:57:36] I will go through it [17:58:37] alisha: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial Go through this. If you get stuck, google or ask here. [17:59:13] if you want to start contributing to MediaWiki, this tutorial also helped me: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [18:00:40] Ok I am getting through it [19:39:01] Hi! can someone let me have more information on Wikimedia Performance portal project? [19:42:37] Hi, is anyone working on Wikimedia Performance portal? I would like some details as to getting started with the project [19:47:10] mihikakashyap: if you mean "working on" as in actually doing something with it right now, no [19:47:54] mihikakashyap: is the mentor indicated in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Wikimedia_Performance_portal not satisfactory to you? [19:48:33] I have not heard from him as yet [19:49:13] Have you already followed all the steps in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Learn_and_discuss [19:49:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker can keep you busy for a week at least [19:49:52] Hi, I'm using the CentralAuth extension, and in the unified login page one of the wikis appears twice (the login wiki, casually) and with a "broken" image (the setting in the configuration file points to the correct file). [19:50:01] It appears with the domain name and with the database name. [19:50:19] The other two wikis appear correctly with their icons. [19:50:37] mihikakashyap: I don't see you in gerrit. Your experience will start the day you submit a patch to gerrit, so that's your first goal. Any patch [19:50:54] Polsaker: what do you mean by "unified login page" [19:51:01] The project is on data analysis [19:51:18] Nemo_bis, In this case, the special page to logout [19:51:29] mihikakashyap: no [19:51:37] Polsaker: so, special:userlogin? [19:52:03] Special:Logout [19:52:25] CentralAuth modifies that page to show a 20x20px icon of each wiki in the farm, to delete cookies on those wikis. [19:52:34] yep [19:52:55] are you sure you don't have some silly configuration mistake like an array incorrectly merged? :) [19:52:58] that's what I understood from the description as mentioned on the OPW [19:53:15] Nemo_bis, I see everything OK in the config [19:53:27] mihikakashyap: and it's wrong [19:53:43] but it doesn't matter, as I said the first steps are what above and are agnostic about the project [19:53:59] where can I find the correct information then? [19:56:11] the information is correct, but can still be misunderstood [19:56:37] It will be easier to understand if you actually do what the page tells you to do :) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Where_to_start [19:57:09] Trust me, if you grasp the basics and get first things first then you'll save a lot of time [19:59:20] the mentor listed on the project page does not really show any contact information [21:00:51] What's the best way to add global javascript for logged in users only iN RL? [21:01:22] global javascript? [21:01:36] as in, across a wiki farm, Subfader? [21:02:06] i mean site wide. no condition but user is logged in [21:04:07] I guess I can do it directly in the skin file? [21:14:39] And where's the advantage in MediaWiki:Common.js if it's just minified in an own load.php script tag? [21:15:41] I don't like RL much. Might be good for extensions but not for large static css stuff. I will continue referencing js / css files. [21:16:46] Writing css / js in the wiki editor is not funny. [21:24:13] Subfader, ummm... [21:24:42] yes, probably [21:24:46] might not be the best way, but... [21:25:21] ... MediaWiki is made for Wikipedia mainly ;) [21:31:39] Subfader, no [21:34:29] it was originally made for Wikipedia but now has hundreds/thousands of other users [21:37:14] 7wl [21:37:19] oopsie [23:35:46] Er, is anyone online? The list comes up empty. [23:36:36] Anyone here familiar with setting up short urls in MediaWiki 1.23 + apache? [23:38:14] Trying to set up /w/ as scriptpath and /wiki/ as articlepath. Using /wiki/ as articlepath + scriptpath works here, but using the first method leads into 404 errors. My AllowOverride settings are correct as it seems to work in other ways.