[00:17:45] <Ghost_Isai>	 Is there a way to make a wiki farm with wikis on 2 different domains? (I checked Manual:Wiki farm and it doesn't say anything about it)
[00:20:27] <ori>	 AgentIsai: yes
[00:20:31] <AgentIsai>	 how?
[00:21:45] <AgentIsai>	 family*
[00:21:47] <ori>	 AgentIsai: if you are comfortable reading code, check out <https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/master/w/index.php> and follow the chain of requires / includes
[00:21:59] <AgentIsai>	 ok
[00:23:56] <AgentIsai>	 um, I just see 3 lines there
[00:46:09] <Betacommand>	 anyone looking for ideas for the google code in?
[01:00:28] <Polsaker>	 AgentIsai, "and follow the chain of requires / includes"
[01:13:11] <AgentIsai>	 k
[01:19:06] <ElmerG>	 Evening.
[01:20:56] <ElmerG>	 I have a question. I seem to be having issues with my mediawiki with any pages that have a : in their name like Template: or Mediawiki:. These constantly give me a Forbidden/404 or 403 error. I was looking around and it seems to be related to mod_security, which I don't think I can access; I'm on shared hosting.
[01:22:23] <Betacommand>	 ElmerG: talk to your host, they shouldnt be blocking that
[01:22:43] <ElmerG>	 I opened a ticket, so hopefully I'll hear something back soon. 
[01:22:57] <ElmerG>	 I just wasn't sure if there's something on my end I had messed up.
[01:23:40] <AgentIsai>	 What hosting provider do you use? 
[01:56:08] <MKar>	 good morning from Odisha, India
[02:10:34] <ytrezq>	 Hello, How I can embedded a font for a single page and all users and without https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags ?
[02:38:17] <ytrezq>	 Hello, How I can embedded a font for a single page and all users and without https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags ?
[02:38:19] <ytrezq>	 Hello, How I can embedded a font for a single page and all users and without https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags ?
[02:38:25] <Agent_Isai>	 .
[02:38:30] <Agent_Isai>	 don't spam
[02:46:46] <ytrezq>	 Agent_Isai: Sorry, but I was just disconnected
[02:47:08] <Agent_Isai>	 Ok
[03:12:22] <Agent_Isai>	 I just upgraded ti MediaWiki 1.23.6 and now editing doesn't work, why?
[10:52:55] <ytrezq>	 Agent_Isai: Sorry, but I was just disconnected
[10:52:57] <ytrezq>	 Hello, How I can embedded a font for a single page and all users and without https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags ?
[13:34:53] <Nemo_bis>	 So many lies (by omission) https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#idp49930768
[13:53:38] <sDrewth>	 does anyone know if it is possible to put active links within the metadata for <templatedata> ?
[17:58:08] <physikerwelt>	 \j wikimedia-visualeditor
[19:43:42] <Agent_Isai>	 Is bugzilla like wiki software? 
[19:44:21] <huh>	 not really
[19:44:32] <huh>	 it's designed specifically for reporting bugs
[19:44:51] <Agent_Isai>	 so do I still have to install MediaWiki or something? 
[19:44:56] <huh>	 and it's more like a forum than a wiki; you can't edit anything except the metadata (like the status)
[19:45:25] <huh>	 Agent_Isai: what do you mean?
[20:05:42] <huh>	 Agent_Isai: What are you talking about?
[20:08:17] <Agent_Isai>	 um
[20:08:21] <Agent_Isai>	 Nevermind
[20:09:23] <SPF|Cloud>	 Agent_Isai: there are a lot of differences between Bugzilla and MediaWiki.
[20:22:43] <huh>	 Bugzilla is not a wiki at all
[20:23:14] <huh>	 you could argue version control like git is like a wiki, but bug reporting software is totally different... it's not really collaborative
[20:28:02] <huh>	 in the same way
[20:28:41] <huh>	 Etherpad or Google Docs even are more similar to wiki than bugzilla
[21:19:53] <zarathura>	 hello
[21:20:33] <zarathura>	 i was wondering, is it possible to have a link to an article with text or a box next to it showing when it was last edited?
[21:20:39] <zarathura>	 or if that happened in the last X days
[21:31:57] <zarathura>	 maybe it's a bad time of day to ask
[21:36:26] <huh>	 I guess zarathura left
[21:37:09] <huh>	 but it probably is possible using parser functions or magic words
[21:40:17] <ytrezq>	 Hello, How I can embedded a font for a single page and all users and without https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags ?
[21:40:49] <huh>	 ytrezq: use common.css
[21:41:17] <huh>	 oh, can webfonts be loaded on a page-by-page basis via CSS?
[21:41:38] <huh>	 hmm
[21:48:11] <ytrezq>	 huh: No, If Use commons.css it would mean load Mo for telling how the browser should draw Egyptian hieroglyphs; Water Closets and Worlds Maps
[21:48:23] <ytrezq>	 on each page
[21:52:45] <huh>	 ytrezq: you could do a JS hack or php hack, but I think there is no 'built-in' way to do it
[21:54:10] <huh>	 I might be wrong
[22:00:07] <ytrezq>	 huh: Some thing a JS would be loaded on Every pages
[22:00:11] <ytrezq>	 huh: Same thing a JS would be loaded on Every pages
[22:00:50] <ytrezq>	 And editing php is kinda equivalent to writing a proper mediawiki extension.
[22:01:03] <huh>	 ytrezq: yeah but you could do something like if(wgPageName=='Specific title'){load woff/eof}
[22:01:26] <huh>	 which is shorter than the woff
[22:03:21] <ytrezq>	 huh: Heh? just wait ... Is there a way to build some conditional server-sides inside common.css so common.css vary according to the situation?
[22:03:53] <huh>	 I don't think so, sorry
[22:03:56] <ytrezq>	 (an existing way)
[22:03:57] <legoktm>	 .page-PageName { ... }
[22:04:09] <huh>	 legoktm: but you can't load webfonts conditionally
[22:04:32] <legoktm>	 oh
[22:04:35] <legoktm>	 nope
[22:04:45] <huh>	 they can't even be lazy loaded
[22:05:10] <Agent_Isai>	 What other cool things are there to do to MediaWiki
[22:07:06] <ytrezq>	 legoktm: huh: Ok, but I do something like .page-PageName { @import url(...); } then does the browser would really build and launch a time expansive web request?
[22:07:23] <ytrezq>	 legoktm: huh: Ok, but If I do something like .page-PageName { @import url(...); } then does the browser would really build and launch a time expansive web request?
[22:07:25] <legoktm>	 I think it does, but I'm not sure.
[22:07:54] <huh>	 you can test it
[22:07:58] <huh>	 I really don't know
[22:08:48] <huh>	 I thought @import was not allowed in {}
[22:09:12] <huh>	 installing an extension might be the best way to go
[22:09:40] <ytrezq>	 huh: A yes... you're right
[22:10:07] <ytrezq>	 huh: but it the extension idea would be really stupid
[22:10:51] <huh>	 maybe a feature like this would be good in mediawiki core
[22:10:58] <huh>	 but I don't think it exists
[22:12:25] <ytrezq>	 The objective, is to avoid installing things... If the user need to install a browser extension, then it would have been better to download a webs fonts as a zip file
[22:12:53] <ytrezq>	 huh: oh! are you talking about mediawiki extensions
[22:12:55] <ytrezq>	 ?
[22:13:24] <huh>	 yes
[22:14:25] <huh>	 or a 10-line-or-so php hack that takes longer to write than it takes to install an existing, tested extension
[22:17:17] <ytrezq>	 Yes but the development is stalled http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoping_site_CSS :(
[22:22:13] <huh>	 ytrezq: why not just install an extension?
[22:22:44] <ytrezq>	 What extension?
[22:23:36] <huh>	 for example https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS but there are others
[22:24:04] <huh>	 ULS is probably overkill and wastes more bandwidth
[22:24:16] <huh>	 but StyleTags or PageCSS might work too
[22:26:27] <ytrezq>	 I said I don't want https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags
[22:26:39] <ytrezq>	 I said I don't want  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StyleTags
[22:27:17] <huh>	 what about extension:PageCSS
[22:27:19] <ytrezq>	 This is just synonyms to modify sanitizer.php
[22:28:13] <huh>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Script_embedding_extensions
[22:28:20] <ytrezq>	 huh: extension:PageCSS isn't supported anymore and no longer word
[22:28:21] <ytrezq>	 huh: extension:PageCSS isn't supported anymore and no longer work
[22:28:22] <huh>	 you could just do a php hack
[22:29:44] <ytrezq>	 Ok... i'll need to say I can't acess the server
[22:29:58] <huh>	 what?
[22:30:02] <huh>	 hm
[22:30:29] <huh>	 js hack is your best option
[22:30:52] <ytrezq>	 but there are already many page which doesn't display proprely (I didn't wrote them)
[22:31:31] <ytrezq>	 huh: What do you mean
[22:31:32] <huh>	 legoktm: what do you think?
[22:31:33] <ytrezq>	 ?
[22:31:58] <legoktm>	 yeah...doing it in JS makes most sense I think
[22:32:01] <legoktm>	 not ideal though
[22:32:05] <ytrezq>	 (I still stay a user)
[22:32:51] <ytrezq>	 huh: do you mean common.js? it would be still processed on every pages...
[22:33:52] <huh>	 it would be cached and the JS would be minified
[22:36:20] <ytrezq>	 ... Doesn't change things... There is no real support for conditional parsing In JS... (tried it) : With speculative parsing (which is more powerfull for scripting) the network request is likely to be launched before the condition is applied
[22:36:43] <ytrezq>	 this no like C/C++ #pragmas
[22:36:50] <ytrezq>	 this is not like C/C++ #pragmas
[22:38:33] <huh>	 I find it hard to believe that if(foo) do_ajax() does the ajax before the condition is applied
[22:38:47] <huh>	 Is this really true?
[22:40:09] <ytrezq>	 espcially with V8
[22:40:49] <ytrezq>	 but the result is eval after the condition
[22:41:17] <ytrezq>	 there is also branch prediction...
[22:41:27] <huh>	 I know about branch prediction.
[22:42:06] <huh>	 ytrezq: why does the parsing matter here if it is not evaluated? I thought you were trying to optimize for bandwidth
[23:00:05] <ytrezq>	 Yes, That's why js is useless
[23:01:04] <ytrezq>	 just good at burning user's data plan
[23:04:01] <huh>	 ytrezq: can't you just do a php hack?
[23:04:04] <huh>	 that we be so much easier
[23:17:10] <ytrezq>	 I don't have access to the server