[03:19:18] <zzo38>	 Is there a way in MediaWiki to force it to use insecure mode?
[03:21:16] <zzo38>	 Whenever I try to change the URL to http:// it changes it back into https:// how to stop it doing that?
[03:28:41] <cathfolant>	 zzo38: There's something in Special:Preferences
[03:32:12] <zzo38>	 cathfolant: OK thanks
[03:38:01] <zzo38>	 How can I do it on other sites that aren't related to Wikipedia but use the same software?
[03:38:21] <zzo38>	 I went to another wiki and it doesn't have such an option even though it is still MediaWiki.
[03:38:24] <comets>	 same option
[03:38:46] <comets>	 or try removing the https cookie
[03:38:53] <Krenair>	 they might be implementing it another way
[03:38:56] <Krenair>	 This is a bad idea anyway
[03:39:50] <zzo38>	 What other way?
[03:39:51] <comets>	 csteipp created this problem..
[03:39:57] <Krenair>	 no
[03:40:22] <Krenair>	 zzo38, just enforcing HTTPS for all requests via the web server config
[03:40:26] <Krenair>	 It's a feature
[03:40:31] <Krenair>	 You should not be trying to turn it off
[03:41:00] <zzo38>	 Well, I want to turn it off.
[03:41:04] <Krenair>	 Why?
[03:42:20] <zzo38>	 It is causing some prolems.
[03:42:45] <Krenair>	 What problems?
[03:44:22] <zzo38>	 It often won't load at all
[03:44:50] <Krenair>	 That's a problem with your setup then
[03:45:05] <Krenair>	 or the site is broken
[11:51:18] <petan>	 andre__bbl: can you give me link to future huggle project on phabricator so that I can replace bugzilla links?
[11:51:30] <petan>	 I want to replace them before release of next huggle version
[11:52:25] <andre__bbl>	 petan, hi. Link to some query, creating a new report, or project overview pages?
[11:52:39] <petan>	 link which people should click to report a bug for huggle
[11:52:51] <petan>	 it can be even a page which has such a link
[11:52:57] <petan>	 so probably a project page would work as well
[11:58:09] <petan>	 andre__bbl: I also sent a request on code-in to get linked my profile with wikimedia organization, idk if you received it
[11:58:57] <andre__>	 petan: received, thanks, but Google Melange does not let me accept it yet. :( I've filed a bug at https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2418
[11:59:37] <andre__>	 petan, to report a Huggle bug the URL will be:  https://secure.phabricator.com/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Huggle-whatevercomponentname
[11:59:53] <andre__>	 urgh wrong
[11:59:54] <andre__>	 sorry
[12:00:17] * andre__ still trying to wake up
[12:00:33] <andre__>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Huggle-whatevercomponentname
[12:00:39] <petan>	 I prefer to have link that is broken now but will work in few days, rather than a link to bugzilla that works now but stop working in few days in new release :)
[12:01:12] <petan>	 ok, that "whatevercomponentname" is what precisely? Why can't it be just "huggle"
[12:01:43] <petan>	 we aren't that big project, so in the end we might be fine with 1 component only
[12:02:34] <Nemo_bis>	 +1
[12:02:44] * Nemo_bis asked Huggle to have only one component ages ago
[12:03:08] <andre__>	 petan, whatevercomponentnames you have here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Huggle
[12:03:12] <petan>	 in bugzilla it made sense, it has good management of components, but phabricator is somewhat complex in this
[12:03:22] <Nemo_bis>	 Speaking of which, who's handlling the links to bugzilla from {{Extension}} ?
[12:03:44] <petan>	 btw andre is it possible to prefill version, like ?version=<string>
[12:03:45] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis, what's {{Extension}}?
[12:03:51] <andre__>	 petan, there is no version field
[12:03:57] <petan>	 :( sad
[12:03:59] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: the infobox for Extension namespace pages
[12:04:02] <andre__>	 petan, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Passing_certain_values_in_the_task_creation_URL
[12:04:06] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis, there's a ticket about that
[12:04:11] <andre__>	 let me find that
[12:04:15] <Nemo_bis>	 ok
[12:05:19] <petan>	 andre__: is it possible to have just "huggle" project?
[12:05:21] <andre__>	 petan: and we can merge some Huggle components in Phab at some point if that's wanted. or I could create a "General" component in BZ which would also be created in Phab next week
[12:05:33] <andre__>	 petan, and what's with the components?
[12:05:48] <petan>	 let's just put all bugs from the components to that 1 project
[12:05:55] <andre__>	 well, I can merge all your stuff into one big blob in Bugzilla, if that's wanted. Really depends on you. :)
[12:06:07] <andre__>	 I can still do changes in Bugzilla for one week.
[12:06:12] <andre__>	 that would get imported into Phab.
[12:06:19] <andre__>	 (at least in this context)
[12:06:24] <petan>	 well, I am more concerned about phabricator than bugzilla but if you have to do that for migration, feel free to do that
[12:07:17] <andre__>	 petan, feel free to file a ticket in BZ about what you want in BZ
[12:07:28] <petan>	 I just want to have some pretty link like ?project=huggle rather than ?project=huggle-easter-egg-development-uber-management
[12:07:41] <andre__>	 petan, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Huggle
[12:07:45] <andre__>	 that's your components.
[12:08:03] <andre__>	 pick one. or get a "General" one created. Or ask me to merge them all. Problem solved. :)
[12:08:13] <andre__>	 all up to you. but request please in a ticket in BZ
[12:08:15] <petan>	 yes I know. I am trying to tell you that I don't care about components in phabricator. If there is no other way than creating a number of projects, just create a 1 big project
[12:08:39] <andre__>	 there is a way to create a number of projects.
[12:08:45] <andre__>	 but projects are a flat namespace
[12:08:48] <andre__>	 no subcomponents.
[12:08:52] <petan>	 yes I know
[12:09:01] <andre__>	 and migration will turn BZ's "product-component" into projects, with that naming scheme.
[12:09:05] <petan>	 which is why I want just 1 project. It will be much less mess
[12:09:13] <petan>	 I can imagine this namespace will be huge one day
[12:09:35] <andre__>	 if you want me to massmove all tickets under Bugzilla's Huggle product into one "General" component in Bugzilla, I can do that.
[12:09:46] <petan>	 ok, can we have it in different convention? like just "huggle" with no dash and extra words?
[12:09:53] <andre__>	 that would get imported into one project then. And afterwards we'd have to rename in Phab from Huggle-General to Huggle. Obviously.
[12:09:59] <andre__>	 not currently, no.
[12:10:00] <petan>	 ok
[12:10:03] <andre__>	 we can after the migration.
[12:10:06] <petan>	 I am fine with rename
[12:10:30] <andre__>	 but we won't put lots of extra handling cases into the migration script. we can always rename afterwards, and have additional hashtags (aliases) for project names too IIRC
[12:10:40] <petan>	 right
[12:11:09] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168
[12:12:16] <petan>	 andre__: so https://secure.phabricator.com/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Huggle&title=Bug%20in%20huggle%203.1.5 is going to be working link?
[12:12:24] <petan>	 I am about to commit that
[12:12:52] <petan>	 not that this feature would be used by anone :P
[12:13:10] <andre__>	 petan, not automatically after the migration from BZ to Phab. Somebody would still have to rename a project to be called "Huggle" only.
[12:13:14] <liangent>	 petan you're here :)
[12:13:22] <liangent>	 do you still have access to sgeadmin on toollab?
[12:13:30] <petan>	 yes
[12:13:36] <andre__>	 https://secure.phabricator.com/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Huggle-Other&title=Bug%20in%20huggle%203.1.5 will directly work after the migration.
[12:13:41] <petan>	 liangent: let's move that to #wikimedia-labs
[12:14:13] <petan>	 andre__: ok, working indirectly is fine as well :) I suppose we will rename it
[12:14:22] <petan>	 just wondering about the syntax
[12:14:53] <onei>	 slightly off topic: is gerrit being moved to phabricator at some point too?
[12:15:16] <onei>	 moved as in replaced by
[12:15:35] <andre__>	 petan, click it.
[12:15:45] <andre__>	 onei, yes, "at some point" :)
[12:15:49] <petan>	 it wants password which for some reason stopped working :/
[12:15:56] <petan>	 I am sure it's correct
[12:16:01] <petan>	 it was stored in browser
[12:16:02] <onei>	 no eta on it?
[12:16:03] <andre__>	 onei, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator#Migration_timeline
[12:16:25] <petan>	 oh lol
[12:16:29] <petan>	 nvm I was on different phab
[12:17:42] <onei>	 andre__: thanks :)
[12:21:54] <shecki>	 hi, is there a solution to this bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69281
[12:21:59] <andre__>	 petan, yeah sorry, first link was wrong
[12:22:08] <petan>	 np
[12:22:14] <shecki>	 i have a freshly installed mediawiki on debian wheezy and need to change it to postgresql
[12:22:16] <andre__>	 shecki, you might want to subscribe that bug here if you don't want everybody to click your link first
[12:22:20] <andre__>	 ah :)
[12:22:44] <shecki>	 and i just get a "could not connect to database" error...
[12:23:24] <andre__>	 shecki, comment 2 says that nobody has worked on this.
[12:23:25] <shecki>	 postgres is needed because i have an old wiki on postgres and switching from postgres to mysql is not redommended...
[12:24:49] <shecki>	 i know, but i think this is related to correcting the installer. but i hope there is a possibility to change the defaults made on installing mediawiki and i just didn't find them
[12:25:14] <shecki>	 obviously just changing things in Localsetteings.php is not enough
[12:26:28] <shecki>	 considering this: http://osdir.com/ml/general/2014-08/msg54399.html i also thought it would be postgres, but i can connect with pgadmin without any problems... so i think there is a setting in mediawiki that still sets to mysql
[12:28:21] <petan>	 andre__: is there some way to extend phab so that it has tags or whiteboard for tasks?
[12:28:31] <petan>	 it would extra helpful for searches
[12:29:32] <andre__>	 petan: not that I am aware of. but extensions are possible.
[12:29:47] <andre__>	 projects.
[12:30:07] <petan>	 creating a project for every tag isn't really good
[12:30:45] <andre__>	 Talk page of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management ?
[12:30:56] <andre__>	 that might be the audience where to bring up your usecases
[12:31:24] <petan>	 for example
[12:31:32] <petan>	 now we have google code in, you were looking for simple tasks
[12:31:44] <petan>	 there is "easy" tag in bugzilla, how would you search for them in phab?
[12:32:14] <andre__>	 there is no easy tag in Bugzilla.
[12:32:16] <petan>	 you could create project called "easy" but well :P
[12:32:20] <andre__>	 there is an "easy" keyword in Bugzilla only.
[12:32:34] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla#Bugzilla_data_migrated
[12:32:38] <andre__>	 explains what happens to keywords.
[12:32:42] <petan>	 it's keyword
[12:34:07] <petan>	 ok
[12:34:08] <andre__>	 becomes a project in Phab
[12:34:12] <petan>	 I see
[14:11:36] <Carmela>	 Proj-Ect
[14:27:47] <Fannon>	 Hi! I've got an escaping problem with writing a parser fuction
[14:28:27] <Fannon>	 I want to create a div tag containing a JSON string.. but even if I add "noparse" or "Markertype => "nowiki" to the return array, it messes my json string up
[14:28:50] <Fannon>	 sometimes it gets addtional " " marks
[14:28:57] <Fannon>	 sometimes it gets <pre> </pre>
[14:30:08] <gecco>	 hi
[14:36:23] <gecco>	 is there a way to change a setting in LocalSettings.php when the page is a special page? all hooks seems called after configuration...
[15:37:39] <lfschenone>	 hi ppl
[15:37:55] <lfschenone>	 just wanted to say that the JavaScript documentation is down since at least yesterday
[15:38:16] <SPF|Cloud>	 lfschenone: link?
[15:38:29] <lfschenone>	 https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/
[15:44:47] <lfschenone>	 SPF|Cloud: is it down for you too ?
[15:45:00] <SPF|Cloud>	 Yes, looking.
[15:45:45] <lfschenone>	 ok, thx
[17:19:44] <Vulpix>	 !class Profiler
[17:19:44] <wm-bot>	 See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classProfiler.html
[17:58:18] <alisha>	 hello Nemo_bis 
[17:58:56] <alisha>	 I am unable to make it to OPW but still I want to contribute
[17:59:18] <alisha>	 So guide me please
[17:59:36] <alisha>	 Moreover my patch has not been reviewed yet
[18:00:57] <SPF|Cloud>	 alisha: which patch?
[18:01:55] <alisha>	 SPF|Cloud https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/167018/
[18:02:07] <Nemo_bis>	 There are many easier bugs
[18:02:23] <Nemo_bis>	 You can see some task proposals on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in_2014
[18:02:42] <Nemo_bis>	 (In addition to the standard "easy" bugs list)
[18:03:24] <alisha>	 Nemo_bis: Okay
[18:03:43] <alisha>	 I will go through it
[18:03:58] <alisha>	 but please can you review my patch?
[18:04:02] <SPF|Cloud>	 ah, you're making changes for the Code-in?
[18:04:45] <alisha>	 SPF|Cloud: No, I was an aspirant of  FOSS OPW round 9
[18:04:53] <alisha>	 But didn't made it
[18:04:53] <SPF|Cloud>	 k
[20:15:50] <cbrons>	 hello
[20:16:30] <cbrons>	 Can someone guide me
[20:16:34] <cbrons>	 [84b46d30] 2014-11-14 18:33:20: Fatal exception of type MWException
[20:16:47] <cbrons>	 This only comes after I insert this line into LocalSettings.php:
[20:16:47] <cbrons>	 require_once "$IP/extensions/Scribunto/Scribunto.php"; \$wgScribuntoDefaultEngine = 'luastandalone';
[20:16:51] <cbrons>	 for scribunto
[20:29:34] <andre__>	 cbrons, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug
[20:29:53] <andre__>	 (hmm, but maybe not too helpful in this case)
[20:36:04] <cbrons>	 ;/
[20:47:48] <cbrons>	 any suggestions?
[21:45:18] <cbrons>	 can some1 help with this? its very short https://dpaste.de/8J8t
[21:46:00] <legoktm>	 !debug
[21:46:00] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[21:46:21] <legoktm>	 cbrons: you need to enable more error reporting or look in your error logs to get the real error message, see ^ for help on doing that
[21:48:16] <cbrons>	 even that is confusing to me
[21:48:22] <cbrons>	 omw to try it
[21:55:55] <Betacommand>	 what version of linux does the wmf use for mediawiki?
[21:56:23] <cbrons>	 legoktm
[21:56:25] <cbrons>	 Detected bug in an extension! Hook ScribuntoHooks::formatLimitData has invalid call signature; Parameter 2 to ScribuntoHooks::formatLimitData() expected to be a reference, value given
[21:56:55] <legoktm>	 Betacommand: ubuntu precise, currently migrating to trusty during the hhvm transition
[21:57:09] <legoktm>	 cbrons: what versions of mediawiki and scribunto are you using?
[21:57:15] <Betacommand>	 cbrons: what version of the extension did you checkout?
[21:57:33] <Betacommand>	 legoktm: server variant?
[21:57:51] <legoktm>	 I would assume os.
[21:57:54] <legoktm>	 assume so*
[21:59:35] <Betacommand>	 64 bit>
[21:59:39] <Betacommand>	 *?
[22:02:50] <cbrons>	 I got the 1.23 version
[22:07:02] <cbrons>	 yes
[22:16:26] <Betacommand>	 cbrons: your running mediawiki 1.23?