[00:06:35] <Nahiyan>	 hello!
[00:07:42] <Nahiyan>	 I have a question, is it possible to view the qqq documentation for system messages while editting them in mediawiki?
[00:12:49] <Reedy_>	 Open them in another tab? :)
[00:12:53] <Nahiyan>	 :)
[00:13:42] <Nahiyan>	 I could add a feature request, it could be very useful
[00:14:30] <Nahiyan>	 but how would you access them anyway on your local installation? The qqq files are there, but I don't know of a page to access them on
[00:18:34] <Nahiyan>	 hm
[00:18:49] <Nahiyan>	 I will add a feature request...
[00:27:51] <Reedy_>	 Nahiyan: MediaWiki:message-name/qqq
[00:28:10] <Nahiyan>	 hmm
[00:28:57] <Nahiyan>	 well I was talking about viewing qqq documentation while in [[Special::Allmessages]]
[00:29:19] <Nahiyan>	 a bit cumbersome trying to access every qqq page
[00:29:47] <Nahiyan>	 though the translatewiki's qqq page is a simplification, what if you don't have internet?
[00:31:45] <Nahiyan>	 hmm]
[00:38:58] <jackmcbarn>	 Reedy_: that doesn't seem to work
[00:44:25] <Nahiyan>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar/qqq
[00:44:51] <Nahiyan>	 /qqq displays the default sidebar code for some reason
[00:45:56] <Nahiyan>	 that /qqq should contain "{{notranslate}}"
[00:57:49] <Nahiyan>	 where is that page on translatewiki that shows you the qqq docs?
[01:02:34] <MaxSem>	 Nahiyan, it just shows you the docs when you're editing a translation. if you need to change the docs, go to MediaWiki:<message name>/qqq
[01:04:38] <Nahiyan>	 MaxSem, in translatewiki.net?
[01:04:48] <MaxSem>	 yup
[01:05:38] <Nahiyan>	 well, I'm going to add a feature request to show the docs next to messages in [[Special:Allmessages]]
[01:07:29] <Nahiyan>	 it should be easier for people to find a message to edit then...
[01:15:34] <Nahiyan>	 okay done: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76428
[01:38:21] <Carmela>	 Wait, is Carmela still a faggot?
[01:38:22] <Carmela>	 I didn't get pinged all day today. Lame. :-(
[01:39:18] <Nahiyan>	 heh
[02:11:29] <cwb>	 Anyone able to help with troubleshooting?
[02:16:34] <MaxSem>	 don'tt ask if you can ask, just ask
[02:17:21] <cwb>	 I'm unable to edit or create pages. Am unsure what the proper location for the php.ini file is for the wiki installation. Also unsure what the value for the entry of mysql.default_socket is,,,,
[02:21:10] <Nahiyan>	 cwb, can you tell me about your system? http server, where the mysql server is, etc.
[02:21:27] <unicodesnowman>	 cwb, what error do you get?
[02:22:27] <Nahiyan>	 cwb, php.ini isn't exactly supposed to come with mediawiki
[02:23:16] <Nahiyan>	 it's more like this:
[02:23:35] <Nahiyan>	 1. HTTP server runs CGI
[02:23:53] <Nahiyan>	 2. PHP is run with the use of CGI
[02:24:32] <Nahiyan>	 3. .php (which MediaWiki uses) are automatically run when it's served by the server
[02:25:42] <Nahiyan>	 and I guess knowing any errors that has occured for your first problem might be useful as well
[02:25:46] <cwb>	 Thanks Nahiyan,.. I was following the instructions per 1.1 of the manual.. 
[02:26:05] <cwb>	 I have enabled error reporting per that manual also and have nothing to report at all...
[02:26:15] <cwb>	 There are no recent error logs
[02:26:32] <cwb>	 *1.1 here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#You_see_a_Blank_Page
[02:27:36] <cwb>	 Also I'm running ssl so it's https 
[02:27:58] <Nahiyan>	 what error does it talk about?
[02:28:10] <Nahiyan>	 er
[02:28:25] <Nahiyan>	 I mean, so the page doesn't display any errors even after you enabled them?
[02:28:40] <cwb>	 I'm not getting any error reporting in my log file. But the problem with my installation is that I can't create or edit pages..
[02:28:52] <cwb>	 I have followed the instructions to enable error reporting
[02:29:03] <cwb>	 And I don't get any....
[02:29:46] <Nahiyan>	 the errors are supposed to be shown on the page when you load them
[02:30:06] <Nahiyan>	 try making a page again
[02:31:42] <cwb>	 ok, I just tried
[02:32:33] <cwb>	 I start with a blank editor.. I type in content and hit save button. Then page reloads with blank editor and no record of any change...
[02:40:36] <cwb>	 any thoughts on why I'm unable to edit or create pages? 
[02:40:42] <cwb>	 From the manual: MySQL socket cannot be found. If LocalSettings.php is set to the correct MySQL socket but php.ini is not, it may result in a blank screen with no error output from the webserver or php. The fix is to update the mysql.default_socket entry in the php.ini file.
[02:40:57] <cwb>	 I'm wondering if I need to edit my php.ini file....
[02:43:03] <unicodesnowman>	 cwb, I believe you're more likely to get help in #mysql or #php
[02:43:26] <cwb>	 thank you..
[02:43:31] <unicodesnowman>	 cwb, what is your setup?
[02:43:34] <unicodesnowman>	 apache2 on linux? or .. ?
[02:44:05] <russellsbell>	 hi new to irc, having trouble with trying to implement 'citation needed' template 
[02:44:07] <cwb>	 linux
[02:45:40] <cwb>	 linux on namecheap server.. I installed media wiki through softaculous
[02:45:40] <unicodesnowman>	 are there any GCI mentors online? can I start working on a task right after I claim it, submit it on gerrit, etc ? 
[02:47:48] <unicodesnowman>	 cwb, that might be your problem
[02:48:00] <cwb>	 which part?
[02:48:02] <unicodesnowman>	 I would uninstall it, tidy it up, and install mediawiki yourself. it's not difficult and should guarantee a working install
[02:48:07] <unicodesnowman>	 softaculous
[02:48:31] <cwb>	 I should re-install?
[02:49:21] <cwb>	 thanks, I'll try that
[02:49:56] <cwb>	 I have some users who'v made accounts already, can I back those up?
[03:01:02] <Betacommand>	 !install | cwb 
[03:01:02] <wm-bot>	 cwb: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation>. See also: !download
[03:01:09] <Betacommand>	 !backup | cwb 
[03:01:09] <wm-bot>	 cwb: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki for information about backing up your wiki. For restoring your wiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki#Import_the_database_backup for more. If you don't have database access, try !grabber.
[03:16:40] <Nahiyan>	 I think there was someone who had a problem similar to cwb's too yesterday]
[03:16:54] <Nahiyan>	 someone who also used namecheap
[03:18:08] <Nahiyan>	 rebelator
[03:18:49] <Nahiyan>	 rebelator at the end contacted namecheap support and they fixed it
[04:16:08] <unicodesnowman>	 For the GCI task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1197 , the PubMed API requests a maintainer email before calling the API. What email should I enter? My own email, a mailing list (I can't find one for citeoid), or a dummy email?
[05:54:34] <Nahiyan>	 "Shirayuki (Talk | contribs) marked Category:Outdated translations for translation "
[05:55:37] <Nahiyan>	 anyway what does anyone suggest for adding a header to the top of a page?
[06:02:07] <kunalg>	 Nahiyan: Hi, What is that you want to do?
[06:03:43] <Nahiyan>	 well
[06:03:59] <Nahiyan>	 kunalg, something like this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/
[06:05:33] <Nahiyan>	 for the black bar on the top
[06:06:25] <kunalg>	 Nahiyan: You would want to see Common.css
[06:07:03] <kunalg>	 You can customize it to stay irrespective of the skin used
[06:07:16] <Nahiyan>	 ok
[06:07:28] <Nahiyan>	 where would I add the HTML?
[06:07:48] <Nahiyan>	 I was thinking of editting the skin files
[06:08:44] <kunalg>	 Nahiyan: The good way to load a CSS Module is using Resource Loader http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader
[06:09:16] <Nahiyan>	 ok... but they made a custom skin
[06:10:10] <Nahiyan>	 they editted monobok
[06:10:13] <Nahiyan>	 monobook*
[06:15:43] <kunalg>	 Nahiyan: Yup, you can do that or create your own skin
[06:15:52] <Nahiyan>	 ok
[06:16:04] <Nahiyan>	 I was wanting to do the latter
[10:35:13] <tech2>	 Hi all, how do I search for all pages using a particular template?
[10:40:28] <RD>	 tech2: Special:WhatLinksHere (on the sidebar of the template page or visit separately)
[10:40:36] <RD>	 Looking for 'transclusions'
[10:41:00] <tech2>	 thanks
[10:41:40] <tech2>	 RD: does that cover indirect links or do I need to resolve the tree manually for templates?
[10:42:06] <RD>	 "indirect" links meaning redirects?
[10:42:56] <tech2>	 RD: sorry, I mean template "inheritance" for want of a better word (sorry I don't have the jargon).
[10:43:09] <pajz>	 tech2, pretty sure it does (I guess you mean template A used in template B used at page X)
[10:43:20] <tech2>	 yeah. Excellent, thanks all.
[11:11:48] <JBerger_>	 hello,anyone done ldap over ssl on IIS yet?
[13:30:48] <Vargas>	 Hi there, in an extension, a call to wfMsgForContentNoTrans  seems to be returning contents from a revision thats months old... any clues on that?
[13:37:09] <kunalg>	 Vargas: Try to clear Cache. Btw wfMsgContentNoTrans() is deprecated
[13:44:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Is there a way to load MediaWiki from a CLI context that is not a maintenance script?
[13:44:35] <JeroenDeDauw>	 And that is also not in global scope?
[14:00:53] <Vargas>	 kunalg: already tried clearing the cache with action=purge, and with purgeParseCache.php
[14:01:57] <kunalg>	 JeroenDeDauw: 
[14:02:02] <kunalg>	 JeroenDeDauw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Eval.php
[14:05:27] <Vargas>	 visiting the page yields the new contents, but the calls still returning old data
[14:06:37] <Vargas>	 the extension is GroupPortal the message is MediaWiki:Grouportal  wfMsgForContentNoTrans("groupportal") or wfMessage("grouportal")->text(), both returns the same contents
[14:40:17] <dl1cpa>	 hello? i have one question about mediawiki1.24.0
[14:40:31] <zuzak>	 don't ask to ask :-)
[14:40:40] <dl1cpa>	 is here someone, h
[14:41:00] <dl1cpa>	 who have problemes with thumbnails? 
[14:45:56] <marktraceur>	 dl1cpa: What problem are *you* having with thumbnails?
[14:46:21] <dl1cpa>	 if i do an uplpad, i get the message that could not create a folder.
[14:46:32] <marktraceur>	 !permissions
[14:46:33] <wm-bot>	 For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[14:46:38] <marktraceur>	 !filepermissions
[14:46:38] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Check_directory_security
[14:46:42] <dl1cpa>	 the rights are original form installation. imagemagick is installed
[14:46:44] <marktraceur>	 dl1cpa: See that link.
[14:47:08] <dl1cpa>	 no, this is not the problem... i tried it allready
[14:47:34] <marktraceur>	 dl1cpa: Can you use a pastebin to give us the full text of the exact error?
[14:47:36] <marktraceur>	 !pastebin
[14:47:36] <wm-bot>	 To avoid overflowing the channel with inane amounts of text, use https://dpaste.org/ or other awesome pastebin sites to share code, errors, and other large texts.
[14:47:36] <dl1cpa>	 i didn't find any solutions 
[14:49:02] <dl1cpa>	 the wiki is at the moment down... but i have the error log saved.. one moment, please
[14:51:21] <corto>	 I'm looking for an extension that will show word count for a section (or anything similar), anyone can give me a clue?  I can't seem to locate something like that...
[15:25:27] <Wilfredor>	 Hi, how I could now the quantity of files in a Category?
[15:25:39] <Wilfredor>	 in mediawiki language
[15:27:59] <Wilfredor>	 {{PAGESINCATEGORY:categoryname|files}} ?
[15:29:25] <Wilfredor>	 more easy
[15:29:34] <Wilfredor>	 how generate a randowm number in mediawiki?
[15:34:36] <Nikerabbit>	 (joking) throw a dice and write the number on the wikipage
[15:34:45] <Nikerabbit>	 randomness does not play well with caching
[15:35:28] <Nemo_bis>	 Wilfredor: what do you need a random number for?
[15:36:00] <Wilfredor>	 Nemo_bis: I need select a ramdom number in a range, thats all
[15:36:13] <SpikeTheCat>	 Something like {{#switch: {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} mod 10 | 0 = 0 | 1 = 1 | 2 = 2 | 3 = 3 ... }}
[15:36:45] <SpikeTheCat>	 not sure if that's optimal, but it's what came to mind
[15:37:02] <Nemo_bis>	 Yes, that's what people usually do for {{alternate}} and similar
[15:37:47] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: interesting
[15:37:51] <SpikeTheCat>	 There's also the RandomSelection extension
[15:38:44] <SpikeTheCat>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomSelection
[15:43:29] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: not work
[15:43:45] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: not work {{#switch: {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} mod 10 | 0 = 0 | 1 = 1 | 2 = 2 | 3 = 3 ... }}
[15:44:36] <SpikeTheCat>	 I abbreviated it
[15:44:54] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: I know
[15:45:14] <SpikeTheCat>	 The full text would have been {{#switch: {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} mod 10 | 0 = 0 | 1 = 1 | 2 = 2 | 3 = 3 | 4 = 4 | 5 = 5 | 6 = 6 | 7 = 7 | 8 = 8 | 9 = 9 }}
[15:45:22] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: |4 = 4 |5 = 5 |6 = 6 |7 = 7 |8 = 8 |9 = 9 |10 = 10 }}
[15:45:29] <Wilfredor>	 yes I know and it is not working
[15:45:30] <SpikeTheCat>	 yeah.
[15:45:48] <SpikeTheCat>	 That's because I screwed it up.
[15:46:00] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: I changed 10 to {{PAGESINCATEGORY:mycat|files}}
[15:46:11] <SpikeTheCat>	 You need to replace {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} mod 10 with {{#expr: {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} mod 10 }}
[15:46:30] <SpikeTheCat>	 Apologies for the inconvenience
[15:47:45] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: Sir. I will never forgive your mistake, now the ghost of Christmas past you will visit tonight
[15:50:15] <SpikeTheCat>	 :P
[15:51:38] <Pandette>	 oh hai there
[15:51:44] <Pandette>	 wow everyone is a member
[15:51:55] <Pandette>	 that doesn't bode well for my question
[15:52:10] <Pandette>	 Anyone know how to install mediawiki on my dedicated server specifically
[15:52:21] <Pandette>	 looking at the manual install page
[15:54:13] <MatmaRex>	 hi
[15:54:30] <Pandette>	 hi
[15:54:34] <Pandette>	 Scruff: 
[15:54:36] <Pandette>	 lol
[15:54:43] <Scruff>	 What?
[15:54:43] <Pandette>	 MatmaRex: do you know the answer the the Q
[15:55:15] <Pandette>	 Scruff: check the channel, I posted the link to installing mediawiki on ubuntu
[15:55:18] <MatmaRex>	 i don't know how to install it on "your" dedicated server. the installation insturctions should work.
[15:55:22] <Scruff>	 I know.
[15:55:29] <Pandette>	 Scruff: can you figure it out from there?
[15:55:30] <Scruff>	 Going to follow them now. :)
[15:55:33] <Pandette>	 ok love
[15:55:36] <Pandette>	 I'm going to a meeting
[15:55:53] <Pandette>	 If you can get the wiki working that would be wonderous
[15:56:05] <Scruff>	 No wonder everyone thinks we're married.
[15:57:58] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: some idea for to get filename an description from a file in a category?
[16:00:37] <SpikeTheCat>	 Wilfredor: There's Extension:RandomImage but I don't know if that supports categories.  DPL is probably a better choice but I'm not experienced with it
[16:01:11] <SpikeTheCat>	 more info here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_%28third-party%29
[16:09:42] <Scruff>	 I installed it
[16:09:54] <Scruff>	 But err.
[16:10:48] <Scruff>	 omfg
[16:10:52] <Scruff>	 everything is going wrong
[16:15:18] <SpikeTheCat>	 Installing MediaWiki stuff can make a huge mess because nobody bothered to make installation processes smooth
[16:15:41] <Reedy>	 huge mess?
[16:15:58] <Reedy>	 it's fairly self containted
[16:15:58] <Reedy>	 *contained
[16:18:15] <zuzak>	 until you install from git :P
[16:18:28] <Scruff>	 Anything from git is a mess
[16:37:44] <Scruff>	 Reedy, Care to help? ;P
[16:39:21] <Reedy>	 With?
[16:40:47] <Scruff>	 Installing...
[16:41:11] <Scruff>	 It's in the /var/lib/mediawiki
[16:41:31] <Reedy>	 Is that using the ubuntu package or something?
[16:41:55] <Scruff>	 Manual.
[16:42:23] <Reedy>	 What are you stuck with?
[16:45:02] <Scruff>	 It doesn't want to come up com/mediawiki
[16:45:32] <Reedy>	 what do you mean?
[16:45:46] <Reedy>	 Have you pointed your webserver to that dir? and/or symlinked it into your webroot?
[16:46:31] <onny>	 hey, does anyone encounter this error with the newest mediawiki release? "Fatal error: Class ProfilerStub contains 3 abstract methods and must therefore be declared abstract or implement the remaining methods (Profiler::isPersistent, ...) in mediawiki/includes/ProfilerStub.php on line 15 ?
[16:46:40] <Scruff>	 This server is really broken.
[16:48:21] <Reedy>	 onny: There's probably 2 solutions to this... Disable profiling (if you don't need it), or you need to change your profiler config
[17:21:10] <corto>	 I'm looking for an extension that will show word count for a section (or anything similar), anyone can give me a clue?
[17:44:36] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: the code is not working look please https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Wilfredor
[17:45:55] <SpikeTheCat>	 Sorry -- not sure what to do at this point, and have to head out
[17:47:05] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: if you save the page radom change
[17:47:10] <Wilfredor>	 SpikeTheCat: but if the page is loaded not
[17:49:10] <legoktm>	 Wilfredor: if you purge the page it'll work. It gets cached so it doesn't update
[17:49:39] <Wilfredor>	 legoktm: Ctrl + F5 not work
[17:49:51] <legoktm>	 you have to purge it.
[17:49:54] <legoktm>	 ?action=purge
[17:55:11] <Wilfredor>	 legoktm: purgue work, but I need purge to generate another random?
[17:55:22] <legoktm>	 yeah
[17:55:35] <Wilfredor>	 fuck
[17:55:43] <legoktm>	 ...
[17:56:12] <Wilfredor>	 legoktm: another way without mediawiki source?
[17:56:24] <legoktm>	 no
[17:56:28] <legoktm>	 there's a reason pages are cached
[17:57:40] <Wilfredor>	 and the reason is...
[18:00:36] <Wilfredor>	 legoktm: {{CURRENTDAY}} need purge too?
[18:07:26] <dl1cpa>	 Hallo, kann mir jemand bei folgendem Problem helfen? Wenn ich ein Bild hochladen will, bekomme ich folgende Fehlermeldung: Das Verzeichnis „mwstore://local-backend/local-public/b/bd“ konnte nicht angelegt werden. 
[18:08:13] <dl1cpa>	 habe verschiedene lösungen bis hin zu chmod777 versucht, aber kein Erfolg. Verwende mediawiki-1.24.0
[18:24:15] <dl1cpa>	 kann keiner helfen? ich hab keine Ahnung in welcher Richtung ich noch suchen soll...... Rechte/PHP-konfig alles schon durch. Kann es mit imagemagick was zu tun haben? Version?
[19:31:00] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, are you online?
[19:33:26] <Nemo_bis>	 http://ffxivpedia.de/api.php Fatal error: Call to a member function disable() on a non-object in /homepages/2/d340396327/htdocs/pedia/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2164
[19:33:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Silly API disablers?
[19:56:55] <superm401>	 Yeah, marcinlawnik, are you still there?
[19:56:58] <superm401>	 Sorry, I was in a meeting.
[19:57:12] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, yeah, I am
[19:57:28] <marcinlawnik>	 Found the icon and the place where it is displayed
[19:58:00] <marcinlawnik>	 I need to render it as png and also add as svg to the same folder to use as afallback?
[19:58:36] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, the SVG is the priority, so the browser supports SVG it should use that.
[19:58:38] <superm401>	 PNG is the fallback.
[19:58:57] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, Oh sorry, that's what I meant
[19:58:59] <marcinlawnik>	 lol
[19:59:13] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, you can either use SVG background (background-image-svg) or an image (but the first one is probably easier).
[19:59:34] <superm401>	 But yes, you can just commit both SVG and PNG in your change.
[20:00:44] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, see https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/24e945e6db19e011fe8c47ae047ede615d046247/resources%2Fsrc%2Fmediawiki.less%2Fmediawiki.mixins.less#L32 .
[20:01:09] <superm401>	 That mixin takes the file names as parameters.
[20:01:13] <marcinlawnik>	 Yeah, got to that. Now changing my editor to tabs ;)
[20:01:48] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, cool, any more questions for now?
[20:02:15] <marcinlawnik>	 Yeah, is there a way I can test it works? Besides setting up my own mediawiki
[20:02:56] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, not really. I recommend you use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant .
[20:03:28] <superm401>	 It will set up a MW for you automatically, and you can enable Echo with a couple trivial steps (it's a role; see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant#Using_roles ).
[20:03:40] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, oh, and another one. Should I leave the cog as-is or crop it so that the cog fills the whole canvas?
[20:03:57] <marcinlawnik>	 Thanks ;)
[20:03:59] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, you're probably going to need to crop it.
[20:04:08] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, it will take a while to download after you do vagrant up, but the setup should be quite simple and automatic.
[20:04:17] <superm401>	 That's what I use as well, so it makes it easier for me to help you.
[20:04:25] <marcinlawnik>	 Okay
[20:04:36] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, also, don't do the vagrant setup as root.
[20:04:58] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, the packages you probably need sudo to install.
[20:05:03] <superm401>	 But for the actual vagrant up use your own user.
[20:07:32] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, I'm going to get lunch soon, but you can keep asking questions.  Just include my username so I see it when I get back.
[20:07:51] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, Ok, thanks a lot ;) Have a tasty meal ;)
[20:07:56] <superm401>	 Thanks. :)
[20:20:17] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, So I have it ready
[20:20:33] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, you're done?
[20:21:21] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, cropped and rendered the svg, added background mixin
[20:21:35] <marcinlawnik>	 Can you confirm syntax, never done this before?
[20:21:40] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, did you test yet?
[20:22:20] <marcinlawnik>	 http://screencast.com/t/e20crF2tkn4d
[20:23:03] <marcinlawnik>	 Getting vagrant up will take some time. If I sent it to you could you look at it?
[20:24:27] <marcinlawnik>	 Attached to the task. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76513
[20:26:24] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, okay, I recommend you get vagrant up, test, then upload it to the Code-In and Gerrit.
[20:26:26] <superm401>	 See my comment.
[20:27:05] <marcinlawnik>	 superm401, will take around an hour, okay.
[20:28:13] <superm401>	 marcinlawnik, no problem.
[22:08:34] <t355u5>	 I have a wiki (1.24.0) which is only readable to authenticated users. Unfortunately this also makes it impossible to access the watchlist feed. IMO this is wrong. There's watchlist token exactly for that. Any ideas how to fix this?
[22:09:42] <Reedy>	 t355u5: Sounds like a bug I guess...
[22:10:19] <t355u5>	 that's the question. is it a bug? or works as designed?
[22:10:20] <Reedy>	 !bug
[22:10:20] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[22:10:27] <Reedy>	 !bug del
[22:10:27] <wm-bot>	 Unable to find the specified key in db
[22:10:31] <Reedy>	 !del bug
[22:10:31] <wm-bot>	 Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser>. You can also try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete>
[22:10:38] <Reedy>	 ffs
[22:11:08] <t355u5>	 Reedy: what does ffs mean?
[22:11:13] <Reedy>	 for fucks sake
[22:11:20] <Reedy>	 wasn't aimed at you though :)
[22:11:56] <t355u5>	 are you a mediawiki dev? is this a bug? if yes, I'll file a bug report
[22:12:02] <Reedy>	 I am
[22:12:08] <Reedy>	 I'm not sure if it's a bug, or a feature
[22:12:17] <Reedy>	 In general, mediawiki is designed to be open
[22:12:25] <Reedy>	 So it's probably an edge case bug where things are locked down
[22:12:29] <Reedy>	 You can probably argue it either way
[22:12:30] <Reedy>	 !botbrain
[22:12:30] <wm-bot>	 Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot
[22:12:56] <Nemo_bis>	 ^d: is this wiki also boring? http://www.loveorigami.info/oriwiki/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0
[22:13:47] <t355u5>	 :-) still don't know how to fix this. file a bug report? are there other workarounds available? am I the only one who noticed this?
[22:14:23] <Reedy>	 t355u5: I would file a bug report, yes
[22:14:32] <Reedy>	 Well, except, it's now a "task" in phabricator
[22:14:38] <Reedy>	 the bot is just out of date
[22:14:59] <Nemo_bis>	 How nice http://www.loveorigami.info/oriwiki/special:export/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0
[22:15:40] <Nemo_bis>	 t355u5: if that consoles you, I have the opposite problem: a wiki where private feeds were NOT hidden
[22:15:58] <t355u5>	 I have no idea what you are talking about: task / phabricator / ??? nix verstehen. no clue. no comprendo.
[22:16:04] <t355u5>	 Reedy: I open a ticket
[22:16:11] <Nemo_bis>	 Reedy: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug
[22:16:14] <Reedy>	 At https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ please
[22:16:23] <Nemo_bis>	 * t355u5 
[22:16:33] <Reedy>	 James_F: You might want to update some of your facts in wm-bot....
[22:16:36] <Reedy>	 !vebug | James_F
[22:16:36] <wm-bot>	 James_F: Submit a new ticket on Bugzilla for the VisualEditor: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=VisualEditor
[22:16:49] <t355u5>	 Nemo_bis: hmm. weird. in any case there should be an option, if feeds are readable or not
[22:16:49] <James_F>	 Reedy: None of them are "mine".
[22:17:03] <James_F>	 Reedy: I have nothing to do with wm-bot. No idea who has been setting it up.
[22:17:07] <Reedy>	 James_F: yours as in VE stuff
[22:17:09] <James_F>	 Reedy: I consider it a bit rude. :-)
[22:17:21] <t355u5>	 Nemo_bis: otherwise I wouldn't need a token
[22:17:26] <^d>	 Nemo_bis: origami is pretty cool.
[22:18:49] <t355u5>	 Reedy: thx, will do
[22:24:49] <Nemo_bis>	 ^d: :D
[22:25:01] <Nemo_bis>	 I'll need to fix a bug before I manage to archive it on archive.org though
[22:25:44] <Nemo_bis>	 t355u5: yes, but we have many feeds and not all of them are produced by core
[22:26:39] <Nemo_bis>	 Not to mention that most wikis don't have a single user accessing watchlist via feeds :). Perhaps $wgWhitelistRead should be made more flexible.
[22:27:44] <Nemo_bis>	 1.9.3. :| http://www.ctpedia.es/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&meta=siteinfo
[23:17:34] <Carmela>	 Nemo_bis: :-)