[00:00:45] <theatrex>	 Is it possible to use both Uploads and InstantCommons?
[00:08:47] <Reedy>	 yes
[00:13:11] <theatrex>	 Because I installed that SocialProfile thing and I'm trying to enable avatar uploading lol
[00:15:23] <robinson>	 hello all
[01:48:01] <theatrex>	 Soooo I gots a question again.
[01:50:17] <theatrex>	 I installed the SocialProfile extension and I can't seem to get avatars to upload and appear. But I can upload files just fine.
[01:54:22] <legoktm[NE]>	 ashley: ^
[01:55:14] <ashley>	 have you checked the file/directory permissions? your web server user needs to be able to write to the avatars directory in order for the avatar (and gift and award) image uploading to work
[01:56:00] <theatrex>	 Hmm, what permission bit should I set it to? 777?
[01:59:12] <ashley>	 should work, I believe
[02:02:33] <theatrex>	 Hmm, should I also do a chown?
[02:05:06] <theatrex>	 Or is there a config file I have to edit? I moved the avatars and awards directories to the /images directory.
[02:12:55] <theatrex>	 O.o
[02:12:56] <theatrex>	 ?
[02:21:39] <theatrex>	 I did a chown and chmod and I'm still getting the same issue.
[03:44:16] <theatrex>	 Hey guys. I'm still having that SocialProfile avatar issue I mentioned earlier. :/
[03:55:48] <theatrex>	 I checked my permissions and they're all peachy.
[04:11:20] <theatrex>	 Anyone awake?
[05:17:26] <Fiona>	 No.
[08:02:33] <PK1>	 if we are testing whether websites are defunct, and they are then can we simply put "robot.txt doesn't allow" in the "reason" section?
[10:21:49] <HOS_nerv>	 Hi, I'm looking to forbid external ip addresses to log in mediawiki (not to access it totally), what would be the best way to do that ?
[10:24:58] <HOS_nerv>	 Nevermind, I'm stupid
[14:01:03] <Dhale>	 can i get a recommendation for a dark theme?
[14:01:32] <Dhale>	 also, is there a way to make my wiki look like your standard wikia wiki?
[14:01:43] <Dhale>	 trying to improve aesthetics today
[14:03:08] <Vulpix>	 Dhale: I think you're in the wrong channel, the Wikia IRC channel is ##wikia
[14:03:23] <Dhale>	 no, run mediawiki
[14:03:26] <Dhale>	 on my own hosting
[14:03:31] <Dhale>	 i run*
[14:03:39] <Vulpix>	 ah, because you said "wikia wiki"
[14:04:06] <Dhale>	 yeah, basically i just want my wiki to be sexy like most wikia wikis are
[14:04:09] <Dhale>	 if you know what i mean
[14:04:31] <Dhale>	 to start with that, i need to get a dark skin set up
[14:04:46] <Dhale>	 i can't seem to find where all the good themes are
[14:05:02] <Vulpix>	 I think the default wikia skin is horrible, both aesthetically and for usability, but well, that's probably just my opinion :)
[14:05:35] <Dhale>	 i agree
[14:05:40] <Dhale>	 any recommendations?
[14:08:11] <Vulpix>	 for Vector skin there's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Darkvector but I have my doubts that it could work in recent (i.e.: 1.23) MediaWiki versions
[14:09:16] <Dhale>	 why cant there be a theme that makes it look like a wikia wiki?
[14:09:22] <Dhale>	 like this   http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_Saga_Wiki
[14:10:18] <Dhale>	 wikia is based on mediawiki code
[14:13:47] <marktraceur>	 Dhale: It *is* mediawiki. At least, sort of.
[14:13:55] <Vulpix>	 skins are usually extensions, so they should be easy to install. wikia skins and extensions have a lot of dependencies between them.
[14:14:23] <Vulpix>	 There's a public repository where you can get them, but I doubt you could get it working without so much effort
[14:14:28] <marktraceur>	 > skins are usually extensions
[14:14:30] <marktraceur>	 {{cn}}
[14:15:18] <Dhale>	 yeah this is probably a huge pain
[14:15:30] <Vulpix>	 "like extensions", I mean, you can download one, add a require_once and it /should/ work
[14:15:38] <marktraceur>	 Dhale: You could just use one of the existing sexy skins, I guess
[14:15:43] <marktraceur>	 !skin Bootstrap
[14:15:43] <wm-bot>	 General skin help: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins / List of available skins: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_skins / Creating a new skin: see !skinning
[14:15:50] <marktraceur>	 Oh, eff you wm-bot
[14:15:56] <marktraceur>	 !s Bootstrap
[14:15:56] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Bootstrap
[14:16:00] <marktraceur>	 There we go
[14:16:40] <Vulpix>	 page does not exist :P
[14:16:48] <Dhale>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:BootStrapSkin
[14:16:56] <Dhale>	 you like that one marktraceur?
[14:17:39] <Dhale>	 that doesn't even look like mediawiki :/
[14:17:48] <Dhale>	 a bit drastic
[14:17:48] <marktraceur>	 Exactly
[14:17:51] <marktraceur>	 MediaWiki is ugly
[14:18:01] <Dhale>	 any other recommendations?
[14:18:58] <marktraceur>	 Dhale: I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Refreshed is just about the sexiest thing ever
[14:19:13] <marktraceur>	 Frankly I have a ten-year plan to install it on Wikipedia. Don't tell nobody.
[14:19:26] <zuzak>	 that double negative
[14:19:38] <Dhale>	 you're joking right marktraceur?
[14:19:39] <Dhale>	 http://meta.brickimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[14:19:44] <Dhale>	 that looks like something out of the 90s
[14:19:47] <marktraceur>	 zuzak: My double negative doesn't fail to bring all the boys to the yard
[14:20:02] <marktraceur>	 Dhale: I dunno, I like it
[14:20:25] <zuzak>	 cologne blue is still the future
[14:21:32] <marktraceur>	 Long live nostalgia
[14:22:09] <zuzak>	 is there any movement to make the default mw skin not look like wikimedia wikis
[14:22:55] <Dhale>	 mediawiki is a huge project. im surprised there hasn't been more focus on this
[14:23:28] <Nemo_bis>	 What's wrong with the 90s
[14:24:07] <Nemo_bis>	 Bad would be the 80s or 50s
[14:24:39] <Dhale>	 im lookin through all the skins on here. they all look like they were made 15 years ago
[14:25:16] <Vulpix>	 https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Category:Skin
[14:26:09] <Nemo_bis>	 Dhale: In 2014 we've had an effort to make skins easier. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Separating_skins_from_core_MediaWiki
[14:26:44] <Nemo_bis>	 The hope is that in the future we'll have more and better skins.
[14:26:59] <Dhale>	 sweet
[14:27:17] <zuzak>	 at the expense of making installing from git more complicated :p
[14:27:24] <Vulpix>	 ^
[14:27:49] <Nemo_bis>	 Yes, for now it's a known cost for an unknown benefit. :)
[14:28:36] <Nemo_bis>	 Anyway, MediaWiki skins are generally of two categories: those which try to look like Wikipedia, and those which do their best to NOT look like Wikipedia.
[14:28:51] <zuzak>	 talking of which, can we add an example git clone command to the big scary yellow box so that I don't have to think when I upgrade
[14:29:00] <Nemo_bis>	 There are exceptions, like Wikia's skin to fit more ads. 
[14:29:19] <Reedy>	 zuzak: Big yellow scary box where?
[14:29:33] <Vulpix>	 people that host their own wiki usually create their own skin, or use one of the bundled ones. And people that create their own skin doesn't bother to release it to the public
[14:29:36] <Nemo_bis>	 Reedy: probably he means the "NO SKIN INSTALLED!" warning
[14:29:41] <zuzak>	 correct
[14:30:08] <Dhale>	 i would probably need to hire a consultant to get something like wikia going
[14:30:25] <zuzak>	 pretty sure that's the biggest warning we've got on mediawiki, it's almost as large as the fundraiser banners :D
[14:30:33] <Reedy>	 !phabricator
[14:30:33] <wm-bot>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/
[14:31:08] <Nemo_bis>	 zuzak: well you know, having a partially installed wiki is kinda important
[14:33:23] <Jessy_de>	 good day.anyone able to tell my why the ldap-extension doesn`t work with group-based restrictions? users that try to login are member of the specified group but the extension log always says "Couldn't find the user in any groups"
[15:09:12] <Jessy_de>	 no one with a working ldap extension?
[16:15:04] <Ulfr__>	 Hi all, I'm troubleshooting a RSSReader extension install, and it's telling me I need to patch a file within the extension and it's filled with evil regex text. Where's the manual I need to read? :o
[16:16:48] <andre__>	 Ulfr__, somewhere on the extension's webpage I hope.
[16:17:09] <Ulfr__>	 andre__: Nope! Apparently it's self evident.http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS_Reader#lastRSS_patch
[16:18:46] <Vulpix>	 Ulfr__: find the line that has the "-" in your code and replace it with the line that has a +, note that the - and + are only on that patch, your code shouldn't contain them
[16:20:47] <Ulfr__>	 Vulpix: You're my favorite pokeman
[16:21:35] <Vulpix>	 Ulfr__: that's the typical diff notation. Don't tell me you haven't read a diff before, even when viewing changes in any wiki page :O
[16:22:21] <Ulfr__>	 Vulpix: Sure, I've read a bunch. Comprehension? Notsomuch.
[17:27:50] <DLeandroc>	 Hi.
[17:28:00] <DLeandroc>	 i need help.
[17:28:43] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 if you have a question, ask it
[17:28:53] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 we're not going to reach into your mind and pull it out :P
[17:29:46] <marktraceur>	 DLeandroc: What can we do for you?
[17:30:53] <DLeandroc>	 i not speak english
[17:31:30] <DLeandroc>	 Huggle 3 tiene un defecto.
[17:31:49] <yamelnychuk>	 Hi petan, i have a few questions about huggle
[17:32:35] <marktraceur>	 DLeandroc: OK, Huggle has a bug, can you file a bug about it?
[17:32:47] <marktraceur>	 What are the chances both DLeandroc and yamelnychuk have the same issue
[17:33:25] <marktraceur>	 DLeandroc: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/ add the project "Huggle" to the projects field.
[17:33:39] <yamelnychuk>	 i have an issue with building huggle in qt creator
[17:33:43] <DLeandroc>	 https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Categor%C3%ADa%3AGas_natural&diff=78613384&oldid=78613349
[17:34:35] <marktraceur>	 DLeandroc: Include that in your report, I guess
[17:34:46] <marktraceur>	 Ugh, who speaks spanish
[17:34:53] * Vulpix raises hand
[17:35:10] <Vulpix>	 DLeandroc: te importa si te hablo por privado?
[17:35:17] <marktraceur>	 Vulpix: Could you help DLeandroc phile a bug? :)
[17:35:22] <DLeandroc>	 vulpix ok.
[17:35:23] <Vulpix>	 yes
[17:37:33] <yamelnychuk>	 marktraceur can you help me with huggle?
[17:41:15] <AnonGuy>	 Hi , if you need help with using huggle , I might be of some help
[17:41:43] <AnonGuy>	 I'm writing the documentation for it
[17:41:54] <marktraceur>	 yamelnychuk: Nope, sorry
[17:42:18] <marktraceur>	 yamelnychuk: You should ask your question, though! If someone can answer, they will.
[17:44:08] <AnonGuy>	 yamelnychuck : u can join #huggle
[17:44:23] <AnonGuy>	 petan there might be able to answer your questions
[17:45:07] <yamelnychuk>	 ah a gci page says that he is in this channel
[17:45:13] <yamelnychuk>	 ok, thanks
[17:45:44] <marktraceur>	 He is, but he may not be around
[17:45:57] <marktraceur>	 Just asking your question would be most helpful (either here or in #huggle)
[20:07:15] <theatrex>	 Hey folks, I'm having issues with uploading avatars with the SocialProfile extension. I checked the talk page for the extension but none of the solutions worked.
[20:09:18] <andre__>	 what does "having issues" mean?
[20:09:42] <Reedy>	 andre__: it doesn't work
[20:09:44] * Reedy hides
[20:09:55] <Vulpix>	 heh
[20:10:28] <andre__>	 Reedy: to clarify, does that means that something is broken?
[20:10:42] <theatrex>	 andre__: Correct
[20:11:37] <andre__>	 ah, okay then.
[20:14:38] <andre__>	 if there is some implicit question hidden, I would point first to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug  :)
[20:15:02] <theatrex>	 Already checked. Absolutely diddly squat for a debug.
[20:15:17] <theatrex>	 I'll try it again just to amuse myself though :P
[20:15:37] <andre__>	 so what steps do you perform and what actually happens?
[20:24:06] <theatrex>	 Well, I click the "Upload Avatar" link in my account's profile, click the "Browse" button, select my picture, click "Upload" and then on the next page it tells me the sizes that the picture will render to depending on the page and it won't show any image. Then, when I click on my profile, there's only the default avatar picture. Maybe I could try clearing my browser cache? I set the avatars folder owner to www-data and chmod 777'd
[20:24:06] <theatrex>	  the folder too.
[20:29:53] <drag00n>	 HI all! I am trying to grab a a tarball of 1.19.2m but I am getting a 404 when I use the link from the release notes
[20:30:21] <drag00n>	 Does anybody know of an alternate location to download these?
[20:31:22] <legoktm>	 .2m?
[20:31:28] <Vulpix>	 !download
[20:31:28] <wm-bot>	 The latest stable release of MediaWiki can be downloaded from <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download>. Files are supplied in a .tar.gz archive. MediaWiki can also be obtained direct from our Git repository <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git>.
[20:31:33] <legoktm>	 do you mean .22?
[20:31:55] <legoktm>	 https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.22.tar.gz wfm
[20:39:21] <drag00n>	 Sorry legoktm I meant .22
[20:39:38] <legoktm>	 drag00n: does https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.22.tar.gz work for you?
[20:42:50] <drag00n>	 legoktm: Yep that link works
[20:42:55] <drag00n>	 thanks!
[20:43:20] <greg-g>	 what link didn't work?
[20:43:29] <greg-g>	 drag00n: ^
[20:43:50] <drag00n>	 http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.2.tar.gz
[20:44:23] <Nemo_bis>	 drag00n: please file a bug, should redirect
[20:47:45] <legoktm>	 um
[20:47:48] <legoktm>	 that url is different though
[20:48:05] <legoktm>	 https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/ doesn't have a 1.19.2
[20:49:08] <greg-g>	 drag00n: which release notes did you find that url in?
[20:51:19] <greg-g>	 the email "[Mediawiki-enterprise] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.23.7, 1.22.14 and 1.19.22" has correct inks
[20:51:22] <greg-g>	 links*
[20:51:25] <drag00n>	 greg-g: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-August/000119.html
[20:51:54] <greg-g>	 then yes, that should redirect
[20:52:19] <drag00n>	 It might be a proxy thing on my side
[20:52:31] <theatrex>	 No help with my problem? :(
[20:52:35] <drag00n>	 wget http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.2.tar.gz
[20:52:53] <drag00n>	 that’s what I was doing ^
[20:53:28] <greg-g>	 drag00n: the oldest version available if 1.19.9
[20:53:32] <Subfader>	 the file cache of a page is not deleted when I action=purge as logged in user
[20:53:33] <greg-g>	 http://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/
[20:53:37] <greg-g>	 (of the 1.19 release)
[21:18:50] <Subfader>	 API: How can I list new PDF files?
[21:38:51] <sinma>	 Hello there! I’ve a little problem. When I try to paste a link like this one: <http://forum.bepo.fr/viewtopic.php?id=1115> in modele here: <http://bepo.fr/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Note>, all the texte disapear (not hidden, it’s not in the HTML)
[21:39:15] <sinma>	 not a modele, I mean a template
[21:40:08] <Vulpix>	 sinma: because the "=" sign in the URL makes MediaWiki think it's a parameter
[21:40:28] <sinma>	 Vulpix: so, how can I work around that?
[21:40:33] <Vulpix>	 sinma: you should use {{note|1= whatever }}
[21:41:12] <sinma>	 Vulpix: thank you very much, you’re awesome :)
[21:41:20] <Vulpix>	 yw :)