[00:56:35] Error creating thumbnail: convert.exe: unable to open image [00:59:06] permission problems? [00:59:13] hmm [00:59:36] yes. [00:59:45] is the server able to access the images directory? [01:01:14] don't know yet. investigating what is the correct name of the server needed to perform this. [01:03:51] this error appeared after we installed ImageMagick-6.8.9-Q16 [01:05:09] ok [01:05:30] `C:\Windows\TEMP/transform_9f5178bc62cd-1.jpg': Permission denied @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2709 [01:05:46] I don't know enough to help... sorry [01:06:58] it means it can't open that file [01:07:39] maybe convert is run as a different user than the apache that created it? [01:07:56] or rather, it can't create the file for output [01:07:56] we think so to [01:10:30] we are using windows 7 iis 7 our user's uploaded an image or file type to our mediawiki images folder [01:15:04] we are searching our php.ini file for upload_tmp_dir = we think that is the solution [01:29:17] We are trying to fix $wgUploadPath [02:01:17] The intl PECL extension is not available to handle Unicode normalization [05:59:16] I need help configuring my installation for short URL and display in this format: https://ecopsi.org/edu/page_title [05:59:39] The directions for configuration of the .htaccess totally confuse me. [09:16:33] Is it possible to change the html code of some core mediawiki components - for example: search results, category listing, and so on? [09:34:57] samu: yes [10:27:28] How do I show a template contents only if the user is logged in? Like a magic something. Couldn't find it. [11:28:59] Nemo_bis: how? :D [11:29:06] Nemo_bis: i can't find this in skinning manual [11:33:57] samu: what makes you think it would be about skinning? [11:34:39] Or in other words, what part of the HTML do you want to change? Your question is too generic. [11:36:00] @seen superm401 [11:36:00] marcinlawnik: Last time I saw superm401 they were quitting the network with reason: Read error: Connection reset by peer N/A at 12/14/2014 8:07:25 AM (3h28m34s ago) [15:56:42] Nemo_bis: any part of the rendered page - this is why I thought about skinning. I'd like to get rid of, for example, the category serach form in any category page. [15:57:00] or get rid of some headers. Or add custom classes to the ul li elements. [18:37:20] we have a question about connecting mediawiki to mysql [18:37:36] !ask | jehovahsays [18:37:36] jehovahsays: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [18:37:39] anyone good at this? [18:38:32] jehovahsays: ask your question, and we'll evaluate if we're good enough for you [18:38:41] ok. [18:39:16] or basically , to summarize what Platonides wants to say , DOn't ask to ask , ask ! [18:40:08] we know database = localhost is correct [18:41:13] we know database name=fake_wiki is correct [18:42:03] we know database user=!fake_wiki is correct [18:42:37] we know database password=************** is correct [18:43:23] we don't know if database usertable=innoDB is correct [18:44:14] we don't if username field= username is correct [18:45:09] we don't know if password field=password is correct [18:45:23] heatherw: Are you still part of the teahouse? [18:45:41] i'm not sure what you mean :) [18:45:49] not officially, but i drop by fairly often. [18:46:00] that is where we are we are reading every where online about. [18:46:11] jehovahsays, what's your problem? [18:46:52] scroll back up and look at the we don't know statments we made [18:47:08] I pinged you on the talk page the other day. Wasn't there a reason the host landing page isn't protected? [18:47:10] no [18:47:29] what's your current configuration? and how is it failing? [18:47:48] nothing is failing [18:48:00] well, what's your problem? [18:48:16] we are stuck [18:48:20] Hi Platonides. [18:48:23] installing [18:48:24] Are you coming to SF in January? [18:48:42] we have been for 7 hours [18:49:06] !! [18:49:06] bla [18:49:10] in which step are you? [18:49:51] are you providing mediawiki a root user or using an existing one? [18:49:53] If you need to integrate your MySQL database, please select MySQL and click Edit, fill in the required fields and click OK [18:51:47] are you providing mediawiki a root user or using an existing one? [18:57:16] we already have our mediawiki connected to our mysql database. we are trying to connect to our mysql database and our mediawiki to another service on our server. you would poop yourself if we show you our website right now to explain this. [18:58:44] what are you trying to connect? [18:58:53] I don't understand what you try to achieve [18:59:08] so I can't direct you to what you need to do... [18:59:09] our website is www.jehovahsays.net [18:59:17] yes you can [18:59:59] ok, and what are you trying to do? [19:00:10] it's eay. we are just scabbling to give you the correct gibberish to get the answer [19:01:19] where can we send you a prt sc [19:02:02] imageshack.com ? [19:03:17] ugh says we need to sign up. here we will just publish it on our server instead. be right back [19:03:31] that's fine, too [19:04:45] jehovahsays: use http://snag.gy [19:05:02] you only need to prntscr and CTRL+V on that page :) [19:05:17] no signup required [19:06:01] I think imageshack didn't use to require signup, either [19:06:06] seems they changed [19:06:22] Platonides: that was before it became a premium service :( [19:06:40] https://www.jehovahsays.net/live/$.png [19:07:04] this is the step we are stuck on [19:07:30] wow, what's that? that doesn't look like the MediaWiki installer [19:07:41] if we solve this , this website will become very much more alive [19:08:50] jehovahsays: that's the MediaWiki installer? the introduction talks about a chat (!) [19:09:26] yes [19:09:34] good eyes [19:10:05] you won't be able to make your chat authenticate with mediawiki passwords [19:10:14] not without editing its code, at least [19:11:10] yes it will. the code is already edited and ready. [19:11:12] oh, and hiding that you are trying to make "foo chat system authenticate against a mediawiki database" [19:11:35] is hiding critical information [19:12:06] not the best idea if you expect people to be able to help you :) [19:12:13] think of the image as installing mediawiki [19:12:31] that's not a mediawiki install [19:12:45] mediawiki salts passwords in its own particular way [19:12:47] that is what we are doing right now [19:13:14] your chat system won't be able to authenticate users with mediawiki passwords [19:14:45] it already has. we just forgot some simple information that we need to do it again , and that is this picture [19:15:00] your chat system won't be able to authenticate users with mediawiki passwords (third time) [19:15:30] you would have better luck with a dynamic web page [19:16:10] if you don't want to help. thank you for you time. it would have been cool to say you help do this with us. [19:16:30] if you don't want to believe me, it's up to you [19:17:21] try asking 123flashchat.com to provide you a script/code to auth against mediawiki [19:17:31] we will be right back. thank you if decide to help us. [19:17:47] note how http://www.123flashchat.com/docs/v80/Integration-Manual mentions Joomla!, phpBB, vBulletin but not mediawiki... [19:20:32] man would have never made it to the moon if they still believed the world was flat. but thinking outside the box mankind made it to the moon. [19:21:06] sure, you can either patch 123flashchat or code your own mw auth script [19:21:36] but if you insist on going to the moon with a commercial plane... [19:30:37] we are using our own script on so on with in our own repo. [19:31:37] if you have a script able to authenticate users & passwords against mw, point to it at integration->url [19:31:48] and don't touch MySQL database [19:31:58] where are the mediawiki users who are open minded here? [19:32:24] open minded? that's hilarious [19:33:13] jehovahsays: what you don't understand when we say that MediaWiki passwords are hashed and salted? [19:33:23] are you all laughing at us? [19:34:03] we know about how the passwords work. [19:34:14] we are beyond that. [19:34:15] I'm a bit lost in the API. Which action can I use to receive article text by title and parse it for a preview? [19:35:34] Subfader: prop=revisions, you can receive the revision (wiki)text [19:36:12] think of this picture as if it were a mediawiki all in one installer and help us answer the questions and we will show you the results we got last time https://www.jehovahsays.net/live/$.png [19:36:24] Subfader: there's also action=parse where you can send wikitext and convert it to HTML [19:37:00] Vulpix: Ah ok, thanks! Yeah I'm familiar to parse action already :) [19:37:08] jehovahsays: all that information is inside the LocalSettings.php file [19:37:38] the last 3 answer are not there. [19:37:50] !db user | jehovahsays [19:37:50] jehovahsays: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:user_table [19:39:01] been there doesn't match up. explain how that link resolves installing mediawiki [19:39:58] jehovahsays: the user table is created when the wiki is installed, the installer never gives you the option to change/specify the table name or fields for user name and passwords [19:40:22] ok. [19:40:43] so we should leave the user table blank [19:41:14] an user name passwords as they are? [19:41:48] we think the same here [19:42:01] I don't know, because as we already said, MediaWiki doesn't give the option to specify that information [19:42:47] we thought the user table was innoDB [19:43:24] jehovahsays: If you need support on some random one-click MediaWiki installer, contact whoever created that installer [19:43:25] for MediaWiki, this is usually true, and the default option [19:44:22] jehovahsays: innoDB engine, sorry, that's not the name of the table [19:45:18] user table is a string The table to store the user information. [19:45:26] it's table user [19:45:39] (it may have a prefix, if you configured that) [19:45:47] the other fields are user_name and user_password [19:45:57] but the user_password is not plain nor md5 [19:46:07] which is the only thing that installer supports [19:48:00] where would we find that prefix info in our mysql my.ini or localsettings.php or our php.ini [19:48:42] !wg DBprefix [19:48:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBprefix [19:49:07] Platonides: Reading documentation!? Crazy. [19:49:28] still, if you really "knew how the password work" it won't work, would have understood why it won't work [19:49:29] the md5 feature is not important it is already running [19:49:39] marktraceur, it was an answer for jehovahsays [19:49:45] I know :) [19:49:55] Platonides: jehovahsays has been in here several times [19:49:58] jehovahsays, but the passwords aren't plain either [19:50:13] I've seen him [19:50:20] but is he always asking the same thing? [19:50:30] No, he's not. [19:51:56] !wg DBprefix is not the answer we have been staring at the page for 7 hours now. that has to do with /wiki on the domain [19:51:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBprefix [19:52:51] no, /wiki is $wgScriptPath or $wgArticlePath [19:53:31] yes you are correct we got that page up to ugh [19:54:18] still, I don't know what's the problem you're trying to solve here... [19:54:38] what about this quote we are reading , " use the MySQL credentials provided by your host along with the database name, and then specify something like mw_ as table prefix [19:55:05] Vulpix, he is trying to install 123flashchat [19:55:17] it has a way to integrate users from another system: http://www.123flashchat.com/docs/v80/Integration-Manual [19:55:37] Platonides: That's also my guess, but he hasn't said that [19:55:39] and is trying to make that work regardless mediawiki pw salting [19:55:46] that's true [19:56:02] !xy [19:56:03] The XY problem is asking about your attempted *solution* rather than your *actual problem*. http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/66378 [19:56:04] All of that is finished. [19:57:02] database users table = user_table [19:57:16] maybe that is it [19:57:27] it's just user [19:58:13] mw-bot that was insulting. [19:58:27] our intelligence. [19:58:42] I think that's the other way round, actually [19:58:59] may be that's why you are artificial. [19:59:42] not you vulpix mw-bot [20:02:49] wait we think we just found it. [20:03:35] identify this wiki [20:04:45] user account for this installation [20:04:56] root [20:08:33] we could retraive the database table from the update.php [20:10:09] There are MediaWiki tables in this database. To upgrade them to MediaWiki 1.24.0, click Continue. [20:18:10] we are sorry mw-bot we should have not said that. what we should have said was don't be always follower some humans are not fit to lead. [20:19:02] !xy Vulpix [20:19:02] The XY problem is asking about your attempted *solution* rather than your *actual problem*. http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/66378 [20:20:27] so true [20:22:06] stackoverflow link? [20:26:05] the root username password for mediawiki installation does what exactly in mysql? [20:29:16] where is the heart of building something amazing out of the open source software mediawiki located in this irc chat? [20:34:21] jehovahsays: Between the lungs of building something silly with Joomla [20:34:46] jehovahsays: The root password is used to create a database and some tables. [20:34:57] we are not building with joomla silly. [20:35:26] alright good answer [20:36:02] now we can get back on the ball [20:36:13] Again with the balls? [20:37:17] what database does the mediawiki installation username root create in mysql? [20:38:01] you give the name for that [20:42:19] Does MW's core JS have a lightbox script I can use or do I need to add my own? [20:43:33] the username root for mediawiki the username for database-user a string The user name which is required to connect to the mysql database? [20:44:41] Subfader: no, mediawiki has jquery and jquery.ui, but not a generic lightbox script [20:44:41] lightbox as in streaming video? subfader [20:45:23] lightbox as in previewing stuff with dark background [20:45:35] !e MultimediaViewer | Subfader [20:45:35] Subfader: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultimediaViewer_ [20:46:25] like a dim feature? [20:46:47] * Fiona NP: "American Boy" by Estelle ft. Kanye West [20:47:21] Can I pass API rendered article previews to that monster? :) [20:48:45] Subfader: do you want to display images or just a piece of HTML? [20:49:40] complete articles. If it works good I'd like to add navigation to navigate to the next preview. [20:50:21] I just thought I could save me some effort lightbox scripts [20:50:29] *testing [20:57:38] we still need to more answers. ugh. [20:59:22] we might just take that leap and experience what happens. [21:04:16] Subfader: MMV has navigation built-in [21:04:31] You can browse all the images in an article with it, using the arrow keys or the big arrow buttons on the sides of the screen [21:05:02] Yes I saw the beta of it. I'm on MW 1.22 atm. [21:05:37] Using a lightbox script from the web for now. Thanks!