[00:20:34] hello, I am setting up mediawiki-vagrant on windows 8.1, does anyone have a rough idea how long the setup.bat file should take? [00:26:18] as it seems to be taking a while, but has produced no output [00:32:23] Part of it will depend on your internet connection [00:32:24] But no output at all is a little concerning [00:33:52] I do have a kinda slow connection [00:34:13] but it has also been roughly 20 mins [00:36:03] Thanks Reedy for the response, if nothing happens for roughly an hour I'll start being worried :) [00:38:15] ty: Checked task manager/resource monitor for CPU/disk/network activity? [00:38:55] Reedy: According to Task Manager, there is 0% CPU/disk/network activity [00:40:59] In the resource monitor, I can see some ruby instances are running, which I assume were called by the setup script [00:42:14] yeah, that sounds promising [00:42:35] It'd be nice if the script was a little bit more verbose at outputting to console [00:43:29] agreed [00:45:13] ty: I just filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85074 [00:45:57] thanks [02:15:28] !core [02:15:28] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=tree [02:15:40] !hack [02:15:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Do_not_hack_MediaWiki_core [02:16:43] If I fork MediaWiki, will I be able to sell it? [02:18:25] Is there an extension for using CamelCase? [02:18:48] Would your forked version be worth selling? [02:19:18] ...what if I answer yes? [02:20:32] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney [02:20:44] "Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)" [02:21:50] Oh. If I sell it I have to give away the source code? [02:22:10] How would you not give away the source code for something written in PHP? [02:22:17] Unless you obfuscated it? [02:22:46] ... [02:22:57] What? [02:23:26] e.g. vBulletin [02:23:58] Wait... [02:24:18] ...my question wasn't specific. [02:25:11] Sorry. If I fork MediaWiki, will I be able to sell it *and* change the licence? [02:25:24] *license [02:25:45] it needs to be either the same, or a compatible license [02:26:33] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/COPYING#L5-L9 [02:26:42] Oh. I meant a commercial license, but that answers it. [02:27:24] Is there a CamelCase extension? [02:27:48] Why do you need an extension for that? [02:28:03] I love those OddLinks [02:28:16] Just NamePagesLikeThatThen [02:28:49] Automatically making links by casing words LikeThis. [02:29:23] I dislike [[DoingThis]]. Brackets annoy me. [02:29:43] NotOnThisWiki? [02:33:08] Is there a way to prevent users of creating Talk: Pages? [02:33:36] !wg NamespaceProtection [02:33:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [02:34:31] Thank you! [02:36:22] Can I report a browser-specific bug? [02:37:11] (On an extension). [02:37:15] Yes, if it's a browser we support [02:37:25] ie not some ancient version of IE [02:37:30] Opera Mini. [02:38:23] Internet Explorer is a kind of emulator of the oldest Internet connections. [02:40:32] I'll check. Bye and thank-you, God bless you. [03:42:56] some extensions are awesome :D [03:44:32] some are confusing .... i am not sure how semantic glossary works... may there should be more examples on the wiki page [03:45:40] it does not crash any thing but i am not sure if semantic glossary works as it should [04:08:23] does some one know the semantic wiki calendar format ... how to create events with hower and minute? [04:39:37] could it be that some composer packages do not work? i mean not even able to install? [04:40:21] or how exactly does a composer command look like? [04:41:06] composer recuire mediawiki/extension "*" @dev ? [04:41:21] or @ dev-master ? [04:45:21] cool i got it .... composer.bat recuire "mediawiki/EXTENSION" "*@dev" :D [06:09:39] We are using windows should use git bash here or git gui? [06:11:28] bash [06:11:33] if you want to use git review [06:11:58] what is git review? [06:12:44] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/git-review [06:12:57] is it free? [06:13:11] yes [06:15:17] if we type git review -s just to see if we already did this will that mess up anything? [06:16:44] glaisher [06:16:59] no [06:18:00] git review -s not a git command [06:19:06] that probably means git review isn't installed [06:20:31] we already have a mediawiki account is it connected to the wikitech.wikimedia.org website? [06:21:13] or are they two diff companies? [06:21:27] separate accounts [06:21:32] ok. [06:22:51] wikitech.wikimedia.org create account what does you domain labs and token mean? [06:23:37] we think missed some steps [06:24:21] what is the tutor link for setting up global account and email on git bash [06:25:27] i found it [06:33:16] can we move the .gitconfig and it files into a new folder and the git bash auto update after we restart the git bash window? [06:34:40] glaisher [06:34:49] hi [06:35:56] I'm not sure whether you can move that file [06:36:08] I mean, whether it would work if you moved it [06:36:18] we found all of it's files [06:36:24] ? [06:36:28] .ssh [06:37:11] perhaps, you could try moving all the folders and files related to git [06:37:26] and then see whether it works [06:39:11] do we put those file into the clone folder? [06:40:03] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4050905/changing-gitconfig-location looks like this might be helpful [06:40:24] no, you don't move that to the cloned repo's folder [06:40:55] why not? that is where our .git is [06:41:30] no, .git is separate for each repo [06:43:08] in our .git folder there is a file that is called config when we opened it with notepad++ it had all of our info in it. [06:43:53] the .git file in locate in the clone folder where we git bash here [06:44:58] I'm not following you [06:45:11] As I already said, there is a .git folder for each repo you clone [06:45:27] and you can't move your .gitconfig file to a repo's folder [06:47:56] we forked a repo, we cloned our forked copy of that repo to our desktop, we opened that folder and git bash here, [06:49:09] we git fetch upstream, we git checkout master, we git merge upstream/master [06:49:15] simple [06:50:12] but or .ssh is not located here where we want it along with all the other files that go with it [06:50:25] where we want them [06:50:35] how do we do this [06:50:52] it would be much easier if you moved the cloned repos to home directory [06:51:31] anyway, I got to go [06:51:31] bye [07:48:15] Someone asked for balls. [07:49:40] Looks like I'm almost a week late. [07:49:43] Carry on. [08:01:49] How can I convert an old password to a bcrypted or PBKDF2 password? [11:33:33] could someone please suggest some starting steps towards developing the UI of the special page of a MediaWiki extension? [11:34:10] I am an OPW intern and am working towards developing an extension, and need some help developing its UI [11:49:47] hi folks [11:49:56] is there any reason T76686 is not public ? [11:50:08] it's asking me for a login when trying to access https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76686 [11:50:24] I'd just like to look at the patch fixing that issue [11:53:20] it's not public as it's a security bug [11:53:34] And it's not been released [11:54:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.19#Changes_since_1.19.22 seems to indicate it was released [11:54:29] as does https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2014-December/000173.html [11:55:23] So the patch will be public then [11:55:23] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/fdd3f464ef9aa7f3276a2a8dddc85e3769cfda83 [11:56:08] ok, so the patch is public but the ticket describing the issue is not ? [11:56:42] Yeah, usually it takes a little while till the administrivia catches up [11:56:55] ah, I understand [11:57:27] I'll like to look at the full discussion on that issue, before I'm confident that applying that patch is all I need to do [11:57:35] s/like/want/ [11:57:57] There's actually very little discussion on it [11:59:51] but you can confirm the patch you pasted above is the "final" one fixing the issue ? [12:12:37] You'd hope so, considering it's been released :) [15:12:23] Здравейте [15:12:54] Мога ли да разговарям с някой на български отностно създаването на страница на артист [15:13:47] Hello any know bulgarian language here [15:14:07] Need more information for create new Artist page [15:22:05] Здравейте [15:22:22] Има ли българи които да ми помогнат за една статия [15:23:08] Bulgarian people here? [15:48:11] Andrian: try #wikipedia-bg [17:10:02] hello, i get at my mediawiki http://papageienhandbuch.de/index.php?title=Hauptseite an error, could someone help me? [17:10:16] Alice-Chodura: Looking! [17:10:47] Alice-Chodura: A database error has occurred. [17:10:51] Alice-Chodura: Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? [17:11:10] how can i do this? [17:11:25] Alice-Chodura: See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script. [17:26:25] PleaseStand: I made an entry in release notes for the bug T78637 and resubmitted the patch.About the browsers, i tested it in the latest versions of chrome, chromium and firefox. I also tested it on opera(9.0) which is non-compliant with HTML5. There was no problem in any of them. [19:19:47] My first experience with editing a page powered by mediawiki with just a link has been frustrating. When I use the [url label] to add a link to a page, it's rendered as raw text (IE: the brackets and the link are visible in the preview). What am I doing wrong? Thanks! [19:20:07] Twinfun: do you have http:// or https:// in front of the URL or anything like that? [19:20:16] http:// i do [19:20:26] should i try without it? [19:20:31] No, it's good that you have it [19:20:43] So your text looks like this: [http://example.com] ? [19:21:00] looks like [http://example.com Label] [19:21:05] Which is correct [19:21:35] Is this wiki accessible by the public, by any chance? [19:21:59] Yeah, but it requires creating an account before you can edit the page. [19:22:10] Which is free, of course. [19:22:43] I can screen cap what I have typed out in the preview, if that helps. [19:23:04] It's also frustrating because I see other links with the same format I'm going for, but they work without any problems. [19:23:41] actually want to ask you, what is minimal system requirement to run mediawiki on server? [19:23:44] Heres a cap: http://puu.sh/dDW8q/9529d67521.png [19:23:54] Sia-: Depends for what purpose [19:24:11] Twinfun: How does it render? [19:24:18] Or...that is the render? [19:24:33] Twinfun: Do you have a

 or  or  tag on that page?
[19:24:43] 	 Reedy, ?
[19:24:44] 	 syntaxhighlight? Whatever.
[19:24:50] 	 Renders like this: http://puu.sh/dDWdi/b4c681466b.png
[19:24:57] 	 that looks like syntax highlight... like using "wikEd"
[19:25:01] 	 @mark Ummm, let me see.
[19:25:11] 	 Sia-: For Development? For a production site?
[19:25:30] 	 Twinfun: What template are you using there? Maybe you should pass a YouTube video ID instead of a full link.
[19:25:35] 	 Reedy for howto website
[19:26:23] 	 The only html I can see in the web editor is a 
. How do I know if it's using a template? This is my very first experience with Mediawiki, I apologize.
[19:26:44] 	 I think the editor is called "Wikitext" if that helps at all.
[19:27:29] 	 Twinfun: It's definitely using a template, you have text like "youtube=..." which is a parameter to the template.
[19:27:44] 	 It has a feature which inserts the URL for me through a popup dialog where I don't have to know the syntax or anything like that before hand, but I still have this problem, could it be broken or something?
[19:27:53] 	 Twinfun: Near the top of the page's source code, you'll see something like {{Infobox|.
[19:28:19] 	 Twinfun: Find out what's between the "{{" and the "|" and you'll know the name of the template.
[19:28:24] 	 The variables are within a {{SetPlayerVariables }} block
[19:28:28] 	 Aha.
[19:28:37] 	 Twinfun: Go to Template:SetPlayerVariables on the wiki.
[19:28:43] 	 There will probably be documentation.
[19:28:56] 	 Hmm, ok I'll see if I can find that.
[19:28:59] 	 I really appreciate your help!
[19:37:21] 	 Twinfun: No problem :)
[19:37:57] 	 Hmm, okay so I found the template documentation, and it indeed expects the youtube variable to be a channel name, where the other variables expect the [url label] format that I want to use for the youtube variable. ):
[19:40:16] 	 The channel name is a garble of letters in this case, so it's not really optimal...oh well, at least I understand what was happening. Once again I appreciate the help! I think I'm good now. :D
[19:42:18] 	 Twinfun: You could maybe change the template
[19:42:27] 	 Whether that's possible given your permissions on the wiki, I don't know
[19:43:20] 	 Nah, I'm not going go through with all that. I'm actually going to message the guys channel so he's aware he can set a channel name instead of leaving it as a hash.
[19:44:04] 	 I'm not huge (maybe not yet?) on contributing to wiki's, so I don't want to touch too much.
[19:47:33] 	 Fair enough :)
[19:58:44] 	 Being new here I look for fixing bugs in mediawiki these days, but could someone also give an idea of the recent developments in mediawiki, in which one can participate, like can one go for developing extensions or something other additions?