[00:15:41] <blackblaze>	 Can anyone help me figure out why my wiki keeps messing up the domain? Instead of doing my.domain.com/mw-config/index.php, it keeps doing http://my.domain.com%2C%20my.domain.com/mw-config/index.php
[00:16:27] <blackblaze>	 That's with every link in the wiki; it keeps adding ", my.domain.com" instead of just keeping the url as it should be. I can't find anything in my apache2.conf that would do this, and I don't have any .htaccess files for it
[00:16:47] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 check LocalSettings.php
[00:17:07] <blackblaze>	 It says it doesn't exist; I can't get it to finish installing because of this
[00:17:18] <blackblaze>	 It gets through all of it, but when it wants to create localsettings, it fails
[00:17:31] <blackblaze>	 Because the URL kills it by duplicating the subdomain and domain
[00:17:52] <Nemo_bis>	 Did you set up some redirect in the webserver?
[00:17:57] <blackblaze>	 Not that I can find anywhere
[00:18:24] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 it looks like you have the wrong syntax for something somewhere in your apache config
[00:18:29] <blackblaze>	 I don't have anything in my apache2.conf file, and I checked every other conf file in my /etc/apache2, and none of them had any reference to a redirect
[00:18:40] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 but i have no idea what since i don't know apache very well
[00:18:56] <blackblaze>	 Well, it's weird, because it only happens with my wiki. My other sites that I host don't have this problem
[00:19:07] <blackblaze>	 But when I've used mediaWiki, it autogenerates the URL's like that
[00:19:12] <blackblaze>	 Same with when I tried tiki wiki
[00:19:46] <blackblaze>	 But both my domain host (GoDaddy) and my personal server where I house everything have no redirect that I can find
[02:46:24] <Abulafia>	 Happy new year all. Question: Just upgraded to 1.24.1 from an old version, and am a MediaWiki newbie. We were using a few extensions such as as ConfirmEdit, which it says are "bundled with MediaWiki 1.18 and above". I'm installing via Git, which doesn't include that in the extension list. Silly question: I assume if it's not listed as an extension I still have to download this, or by "bundled" does it mean that it's included in co
[02:57:20] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: if you used a tarball release you would get it, otherwise you need to check it out of git
[02:57:46] <Betacommand>	 !tarball | Abulafia 
[02:57:46] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !package, !packagefix, !packages, !vector, 
[02:57:48] <Abulafia>	 Betacommand - perfect thanks. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't being redundant checking it out!
[02:57:56] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: Nope
[02:58:44] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: tarballs are the recommended install method
[03:01:21] <Abulafia>	 Ah, thanks Betacommand . I'd been going with Git just for ease of updates / rollbacks.
[03:01:43] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: if your comfortable doing that go ahead
[03:02:03] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: tarballs are more fool proof
[03:02:29] <Abulafia>	 Ok. If there's somewhere I should RTFM that weighs the pros and cons, I'm happy to do some reading. More foolproof in that you're less likely to accidentally grab dev code?
[03:05:07] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: and it has all the paired extensions, skins, and related packages needed to get operational, where git tends to have dependencies and other stuff in secondary repos
[03:05:55] <Betacommand>	 for example, Skins are in a separate repo and you need to download at least one from git before your wiki will work
[03:08:06] <Abulafia>	 Thanks Betacommand, I appreciate the explanations and advice! That makes sense. We're using a Vector-based custom skin, but I'll either try to stay aware of other dependencies, or possibly switch to tarballs. I'm hoping to make it as easy for future admins to maintain as possible. 
[03:08:57] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: I would use 1.23 myself
[03:09:02] <Betacommand>	 its the current LTS
[03:09:34] <Betacommand>	 but skins/extensions are the biggest part
[03:14:21] <Abulafia>	 Thanks! I'll downgrade to 1.23.8 if that's a better choice. Just reading now on LTS / Current. Main advantage is stability with LTS? Current is "stable" but more likely to have issues show up in a production environment?
[03:17:18] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: No, patches and security stuff will be back ported to LTS, while non LTS just get abandoned 
[03:17:47] <Betacommand>	 its LTS, current and current-1 for support normally
[03:21:26] <Abulafia>	 So is the main advantage of LTS over Current having patches / security without having to stay upgraded to Current? ie, it saves hassle, rather than increases stability / security?
[03:22:19] <Abulafia>	 (ie, If I went with 1.20, I'd have to keep going to 1.21, 1.22, 1.23 to get patches, whereas with 1.19 I could just wait until 1.23 before having to worry about it)
[03:24:07] <Betacommand>	 Abulafia: yeah, extensions normally work with all 1.23.x releases while they have to be upgraded between 1.xx releases
[03:27:32] <Abulafia>	 Betacommand: So potentially wider choice of extensions, so you don't get caught having to wait for your extension maintainers to all finish updating their extensions before you can jump to the next version. Thanks for walking me through it, I'm sold.
[06:08:48] <AugurNZ>	  Anybody know why {{Special:WantedPages}} works, but {{Special:WantedTemplates}} doesn't?  http://lca2015.linux.org.au/wiki/Wiki_Hackathon#Other_Things_To_Do
[06:12:34] <AugurNZ>	 Although there are no wanted templates on that wiki right now, the {{Special:DeadendPages}} doesn't work properly either when put into braces like that.
[09:18:05] <legoktm>	 AugurNZ: most special pages aren't transcludable.
[09:30:20] <AugurNZ>	 legoktm: thanks for that. It would be a handy feature though.
[09:41:25] <legoktm>	 AugurNZ: file a bug for it? :)
[14:47:50] <XXN_>	 Hi. Where can be edited link for uploading files from left sidebar in "Tools" section? Not label, but wikilink [[Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard]].
[14:49:06] <XXN_>	 is there a mediawiki page for this, or it can be edited only on webserver in source code?
[14:51:22] <XXN_>	 and, one more question: is there a blacklist mediawiki page to add restrictions for various texts (something similar to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]], but not only for wikilinks)?
[14:55:16] <MatmaRex>	 !wg UploadNavigationUrl | XXN_
[14:55:16] <wm-bot>	 XXN_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUploadNavigationUrl
[14:55:41] <Betacommand>	 !abusefilter | XXN_ 
[14:55:41] <wm-bot>	 XXN_: AbuseFilter is an extension that tags and filters problematic edits. For more information, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter>
[14:55:41] <MatmaRex>	 XXN_: i'm not aware of any such blacklist, but you might be able to use AbuseFilter extension for this.
[14:55:43] <MatmaRex>	 !e AbuseFilter
[14:55:43] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter
[14:56:08] <Betacommand>	 MatmaRex: :P
[14:56:17] <MatmaRex>	 ha, too slow. :P
[14:56:23] <XXN_>	 ok, thank you!
[14:56:35] <Betacommand>	 !sidebar | XXN_ 
[14:56:35] <wm-bot>	 XXN_: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar for details). If you need more control, you can use the SkinBuildSidebar hook (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar).
[14:57:04] <Betacommand>	 XXN_: anything else?
[15:00:10] <XXN_>	 Look here for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar. Contains section "navigation", section "interaction ", but toolbox content is not editable from here ...hmm
[15:07:02] <Betacommand>	 XXN_: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUploadNavigationUrl
[15:08:11] <XXN_>	 ok..
[15:08:13] <XXN_>	 this was only a example. More exactly, i want to modify $wgUploadNavigationUrl at rowiki because it is deprecated. Should i fill a ticket on bugzilla or phabricator, or can someone from here help me. Go to rowiki, search in left sidebar for "Upload file" (or "Trimite fișier" in Romanian) and click on link. You will see that you was redirected. So it's necessary to change one old diacritic symbol in $wgUploadNavigationUrl
[15:08:40] <XXN_>	 Wikipedia:Trimite fişier --» Wikipedia:Trimite fișier
[15:09:31] <Betacommand>	 XXN_: file a phab ticket
[15:09:53] <XXN_>	 ok. Thank you.
[15:18:05] <XXN_>	 FYK, i don't like very much phabricator. Bugzilla looked better to me :) Filled. T85665
[15:22:00] <Betacommand>	 XXN_: join the crowd, Ive seen quite a few things where phab just falls on its face
[18:12:37] <akshata>	 is this the right place to ask about setting up issues?
[18:13:06] <Krenair>	 yes
[18:14:39] <akshata>	 well i'm having trouble adding the ssh key to use with git. when i'm trying to run ssh, it gives me a "permission denied(public key)" message
[18:15:19] <GEOFBOT>	 what is the filename of the key
[18:15:28] <GEOFBOT>	 you might need to do ssh-add if it isn't id_rsa
[18:16:06] <akshata>	 i've done that 
[18:16:36] <GEOFBOT>	 do you have the username
[18:16:39] <GEOFBOT>	 in the git clone command
[18:16:44] <akshata>	 yes
[18:16:45] <GEOFBOT>	 and the correct port number?
[18:17:21] <akshata>	 eval `ssh-agent` gives me the port number no?
[18:19:00] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 Sorry  pc crash
[18:20:01] <akshata>	 so eval `ssh-agent` gives me the port number, which i need to add in  ssh <USERNAME>@gerrit.wikimedia.org -p <port number> ? 
[18:21:06] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 Ssh-agent port number is not important
[18:21:16] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 Gerrit port number is 29418
[18:21:23] <akshata>	 oh alright. 
[18:23:38] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 Works?
[18:24:35] <akshata>	 i'm just trying it 
[18:25:46] <akshata>	 nope, still the same message - permission denied(public key)
[18:27:06] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 You replaced username with your own username right
[18:27:37] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 And added key to gerrit website my?
[18:27:47] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 Ups SwiftKey is the worst
[18:28:05] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 *ugh
[18:30:18] <akshata>	 yep yep!
[18:31:49] <GEOFBOT_mobile>	 Hmmmm
[18:38:29] <FlorianSW>	 akshata: have you followed these tutorial steps and added your ssh keys to all needed places: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial#Set_Up_SSH_Keys_in_Gerrit ???
[18:38:44] <GEOFBOT>	 akshata: make sure your username
[18:38:50] <GEOFBOT>	 matches the one in the gerrit settings
[18:38:57] <GEOFBOT>	 e.g. my username on wikimedia is Sn1per
[18:39:01] <GEOFBOT>	 but for gerrit it is lowercase
[18:39:07] <GEOFBOT>	 or else it pulls the key error
[18:40:32] <akshata>	 omg yeah i hadn't observed that it was in lowercase! 
[18:40:49] <akshata>	 now works. thanks a ton GEOFBOT !
[18:41:10] <GEOFBOT>	 no problem ;)
[18:47:31] <Schroeder>	 capitalism is a fundamentally authoritarian mode of socioeconomic organization
[21:47:46] <KA101>	 Problem, looking through the tech manual ATM:
[21:48:20] <Vulpix>	 wow, someone reading the docs!
[21:48:21] <KA101>	 Managed to overwrite index.php.  Whee, missing a letter in FTP console.
[21:49:36] <KA101>	 Found the page and it looks like the source is available so I could grab that and swap back in, then configure.
[21:49:59] <KA101>	 Will go back to the manual for a bit; any thoughts?
[21:51:15] <Vulpix>	 KA101: index.php? do you mean LocalSettings.php?
[21:51:23] <KA101>	 Negative.
[21:51:29] <KA101>	 I mean index.
[21:51:40] <Vulpix>	 you can get index.php from the install tarball again
[21:52:03] <KA101>	 Yeah, I'm looking at the page on git now
[21:52:19] <Vulpix>	 KA101: what mediawiki version?
[21:52:56] <Vulpix>	 yes, you can grab it from git, be sure to select the correct branch ;)
[21:53:21] * KA101 is more or less the custodian
[21:53:21] <KA101>	 LocalSettings I have backed up anyway ;)
[21:58:23] <KA101_>	 >_<
[21:58:34] <KA101_>	 Network drop, NOS
[22:07:08] <KA101_>	 Replacement seems to have worked.  We're alive again.
[22:07:18] <KA101_>	 Thanks for the checkup.
[22:07:40] * KA101_ leaves the channel.
[22:10:44] <Nemo_bis>	 I always forget that Eurostat has a MediaWiki wiki http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Main_Page
[22:18:54] <Nemo_bis>	 (And a rather enjoyable one even)
[22:32:57] <Nemo_bis>	 «You do not have permission to create pages, for the following reasons:      The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: editor, alloweduser.     You do not have permission to create new pages.»