[10:24:56] <Seb>	 hi fellows
[10:25:16] <Seb>	 could T76686 be made public ?
[14:25:25] <hannes3>	 how can i see what a "maintenance/runJobs.php --maxjobs 1" process is doing? my wiki is not loading any pages while that is running
[14:26:49] <hannes3>	 it's not doing any significant cpu or io load
[14:35:39] <Vulpix>	 maybe with a showJobs.php --list http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ShowJobs.php
[15:37:03] <hannes3>	 Vulpix: no luck, that just shows "0" after i set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true
[15:37:11] <hannes3>	 which it suggested when showing nothin
[15:40:43] <Vulpix>	 hannes3: if you stop the command (CTRL+C) and run it again, still hangs?
[15:41:11] <Vulpix>	 you may try to enable the display of PHP errors. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug#PHP_errors
[15:43:49] <Betacommand>	 hannes3: what is your php memory limit?
[15:44:43] <Betacommand>	 and/or total memory usage on the machine?
[15:50:40] <qknight>	 i have an article with this chars   '';  <- indicates a quote in the programming language Nix. but mediawiki just won't show the '' even though i've wrapped it in <code>'';</code>, why?
[15:52:24] <Betacommand>	 qknight: at the beginning of a line?
[15:52:59] <qknight>	 Betacommand: https://nixos.org/wiki/Xorg/xserver_example_settings_in_nix_configuration, just hit 'view source'
[15:53:45] <Betacommand>	 qknight: looking
[15:53:59] <qknight>	 i could wrap every '' into <nowiki>''</nowiki> but that would be tedious
[15:54:14] <Vulpix>	 you don't have "; but '';, that's quite different
[15:54:46] <qknight>	 yes, i'm having ''; and not ";      ;-)
[15:54:47] <Vulpix>	 bah, disregard that, it's my IRC client fault
[15:55:09] <qknight>	 charsets and encondings are a complicated thing
[15:55:53] <Vulpix>	 use <nowiki> in the whole block (not just surrounding ''), or maybe <syntaxhighlight> (if supported/installed in your installation)
[15:56:28] <qknight>	 Vulpix: but if i use <nowiki> then the code is not listed as code but all the newlines are removed and i get a one line blob which looks very broken ;-)
[15:57:25] <Vulpix>	 ah... yes. Use <pre> instead of <code>, then
[15:59:29] <Betacommand>	 qknight: its neither, ; at the beginning of a line is special mediawiki synatx
[16:02:48] <qknight>	 Betacommand: i've fixed it now but i don't quite understand why
[16:03:00] <qknight>	 https://nixos.org/wiki/Xorg/xserver_example_settings_in_nix_configuration <- looks great even without <pre>
[16:03:07] <qknight>	 Vulpix: <pre> was a good idea though
[16:03:36] <Vulpix>	 qknight: <code> just adds monospace font. It doesn't scape wiki formatting stuff. <pre> does (also respecting whitespace)
[16:04:19] <Betacommand>	 qknight: wikitext has some special syntax to do stuff, [[]],:,~~~~ are just a few of them
[16:04:50] <qknight>	 tjamls
[16:04:56] <qknight>	 thanks a ot
[16:04:57] <Vulpix>	 lines prefixed with space are treated more or less like <pre>, but wikitext is still parsed
[16:05:15] <qknight>	 Vulpix: oh, that could explain what i've encountered 
[16:05:50] <qknight>	 is there a mediawiki editor like https://stackedit.io/?
[16:08:20] <Vulpix>	 there's VisualEditor
[16:08:36] <qknight>	 Vulpix: i think i've been playing with it. but is it a default editor somewhere already?
[16:09:22] <Vulpix>	 no. It's an extension, and it needs a more complex setup than normal extensions
[16:19:17] <tdannecy>	 I'm trying to use the bulk insert extension, but I'm having some php issues with undefined offsets. Could someone help me for a bit?
[16:24:32] <Reedy>	 Bulk Insert extension?
[16:24:56] <tdannecy>	 Reedy: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Bulk_Page_Creator
[16:25:23] <Reedy>	 That's not an extension :)
[16:25:40] <Reedy>	 It looks like it's not been updated in like 4 years
[16:25:55] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: what are you trying to do?
[16:26:07] <Reedy>	 And it seemingly screenscrapes
[16:26:08] * Reedy barfs
[16:26:44] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Create about 200 pages on my wiki with a template on each one.
[16:27:04] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: take a look at pywikibot
[16:27:15] <Betacommand>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PWB
[16:30:09] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Will do! Thanks.
[17:15:20] <hannes3>	 seems like the maintenance scripts dont like sqlite. the problem seems to be that the "database is locked".
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[17:26:59] <hawkey>	 hi
[17:33:40] <Seb>	 does anyone have a timeline regarding the opening of T76686 to the public ?
[17:55:41] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: I ran into an issue with creating a family file. I don't understand what my traceback is telling me
[17:56:04] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: can you pastebin it?
[17:56:18] <Betacommand>	 !ping
[17:56:18] <wm-bot>	 Pong.
[18:01:02] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Sure. I ran "python pwb.py scripts/pagefromfile.py -start:xxxx -end:yyyy -file:inputfile.txt" Output: http://pastebin.com/3keUuABn
[18:02:11] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: u'Tim D'Annecy'
[18:02:15] <Betacommand>	 needs to be:
[18:02:23] <Betacommand>	 u"Tim D'Annecy"
[18:02:53] <Betacommand>	 usage of ' in a string caused the issue
[18:03:06] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Ah. Just saw that too. Can't believe I missed it.
[18:03:30] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: Ive had dumber errors myself :)
[18:07:34] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Well, I ran into more issues generating a family file. I hate to be a mooch, but would you mind looking at my output from running "generate_family_file.py"?
[18:07:51] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: paste bin it
[18:08:43] <Betacommand>	 and the error code your getting too
[18:09:53] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: Ive only got a few minutes before I need to head out
[18:11:38] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Okay, I'm having an issue getting the paste bin to save correctly with the input, so I took a screenshot. http://imgur.com/ExNka8w.png
[18:12:31] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: what is the url to your wiki's home page?
[18:13:02] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: http://flnowarchive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[18:13:19] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Should I put that in instead of just blah.org/mediawiki?
[18:13:26] <Betacommand>	 yeah
[18:13:33] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Thank you.
[18:14:04] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Wow. It's right there in the instructions. -_- Sorry.
[18:14:04] <Betacommand>	 tdannecy: thats what the docs are also telling you
[18:14:17] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Yeah. -_- I'm sorry to bother you.
[18:16:54] <Prince>	 hi
[18:16:59] <hawkey>	 hi
[18:17:30] <Guest83382>	 hi
[18:19:34] <tdannecy>	 Betacommand: Found out what my issue was. I put the group permissions to read=false on my LocalSettings
[18:31:00] <Phoenix303>	 In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65902, what does 'edit' stands for ? is it male,female or unknown?
[18:36:04] <Vulpix>	 Phoenix303: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#GENDER
[18:36:28] <Vulpix>	 text for every gender. I guess translations should be able to specify specific genders
[18:44:40] <Phoenix303>	 Vulpix : AFAIU suppose the current user gender preference is set as "female" but when i add {{GENDER:|male}} actually it returns "male" while it shouls return "female"? Please let me know if i have interpreted wrongly.
[18:45:16] <Vulpix>	 {{GENDER:|male}} will return male in all cases
[18:46:20] <Phoenix303>	 what does this bug trying to add support for then https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65902?
[18:47:54] <Vulpix>	 I have no idea... not an #easy bug if you don't know what the author mean
[18:50:44] <Phoenix303>	 Thanks Vulpix.
[19:45:00] <sofat>	 i am install Flow extension 
[19:45:10] <sofat>	 but they gave me error
[19:45:15] <sofat>	 [f6ab0e1e] 2015-01-04 19:40:53: Fatal exception of type MWException
[19:45:25] <sofat>	 any solution for this?
[19:46:30] <ori>	 sofat: there should be more details in the error log
[19:47:05] <ori>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug#PHP_errors -- set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true
[19:48:30] <sofat>	 ori, there is internal error
[19:48:48] <ori>	 yes, but to figure out what it is, we need to know more about what the error is
[20:20:47] <sofat>	 ori, https://hiteshkumarsofat.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/error/
[20:20:51] <sofat>	 please check this
[20:21:20] <sofat>	 i could not found any solution
[20:22:25] <ori>	 sofat: are you running the latest version of Flow? it looks like the code in the repository's master has changed
[20:22:41] <ori>	 since the extension is still under development, it's probably best to use the latest code available
[21:25:09] <wesguy>	 hello peoples
[21:28:16] <wesguy>	 I have a bit of a dilemma. I'm associated with a group of people trying to restart a wiki that's been down for quite a while (since 2011). however the only backups are here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64088059/Steal%20this%20Wiki/wiki.stealthiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page.html
[21:28:16] <wesguy>	 How would we transfer this to a new wiki without manually copy/pasting each page?
[21:29:15] <wesguy>	 The best any of us have come up with is to use a scraper and scrape the pages and transfer them into markdown then we installed a markdown plugin. but that's still tedious to correct the markdown because it doesn't transfer perfectly.
[21:30:16] <valhallasw`cloud>	 wesguy: do you have a database dump, or just the html versions?
[21:30:47] <wesguy>	 just this version I'm linking, html
[21:31:09] <wesguy>	 unfortunately the old wiki was abandoned a long time ago and we don't have access to the database
[21:31:13] <Harmageddon>	 wesguy: and the original wiki isn't online anymore?
[21:31:58] <wesguy>	 nah it's been down since 2011, but it's all GNU licensed so we figured we'd just restart it ourselves haha
[21:32:06] <wesguy>	 me and a group of people
[21:32:12] <valhallasw`cloud>	 wesguy: http://w-i-k-i.appspot.com/ seems to do a reasonable job at converting to wikitext
[21:32:28] <MatmaRex>	 there's also, you know, Parsoid ;)
[21:32:49] <valhallasw`cloud>	 MatmaRex: yeah, but parsoid likes parsoid-generated html somewhat better than random html ;-)
[21:32:56] <wesguy>	 thanks I'll try that app
[21:33:08] <valhallasw`cloud>	 wesguy: it's still a bit of a mess with the links
[21:33:18] <wesguy>	 yeah the markdown screws up the links too
[21:33:22] <valhallasw`cloud>	 there's probably a few others out there that convert html to wikitext as well
[21:35:15] <MatmaRex>	 valhallasw`cloud: it'll take random HTML perfectly fine, as long as it's "clean", so to speak
[21:35:18] <hannes3>	 wesguy: try their tools https://github.com/WikiTeam/wikiteam
[21:35:39] <valhallasw`cloud>	 wesguy: pandoc also works, but also problematic with links
[21:35:50] <wesguy>	 this looks like it's working to a degree
[21:35:51] <MatmaRex>	 output of the PHP parser should be pretty good for this…
[21:36:47] <MatmaRex>	 hmm, i guess it won't handle images well?
[21:37:34] <MatmaRex>	 hmm. yeah, you would need some pre- or post-processing :/ oh well
[21:37:55] <wesguy>	 oh well
[21:38:04] <wesguy>	 it still is working rathe well, better than the markdown
[21:38:13] <MatmaRex>	 (but actually, it does handle images well. better than i expected!)
[21:38:40] <MatmaRex>	 (try at http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/_html/ , you'd need to install it locally and play with it for it to work better with local links)
[21:40:11] <wesguy>	 thanks for the help!
[22:25:39] <Betacommand>	 is there a phab ticket for the PDF renderer ignoring infoboxes?
[22:29:07] <MatmaRex>	 there's one for it ignoring tables
[22:29:09] <MatmaRex>	 so yes
[22:29:12] <MatmaRex>	 somewhere
[22:29:28] <Betacommand>	 MatmaRex: it was just closed
[22:29:53] <Betacommand>	 MatmaRex: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T32706
[22:38:12] <MatmaRex>	 theni dunno.