[05:27:35] Hi! For some reason, my special pages seem to have some different CSS properties than my regular pages. Does anyone know why this is or how to fix it? Special Page: http://s21.postimg.org/c5evuvo51/Screen_Shot_2015_01_18_at_12_24_41_AM.png, Regular Page: http://s1.postimg.org/6v7hrwqhp/Screen_Shot_2015_01_18_at_12_24_52_AM.png [05:28:20] I’m running version 1.19, if that matters. [05:33:57] Emily2, looks like the CSS isn't being loaded ; if you open up your developer console do you see any errors / red lines? [05:34:33] What do you mean my developer console? [05:35:54] press Ctrl + Shift + J (chrome) or Ctrl + Shift + K (firefox) on that tab [05:37:40] Like inspect element? [05:40:26] It doesnt show that there are any errors. How would I get it to load the CSS files? [05:41:53] I think it only shows errors on Internet Explorer; Firefox doesn't [05:42:43] Emily2, wiki url (if it's public)? [05:42:56] hi! which channel may I find helpful for getting some help with ULS? I need to include it in an extension I'm coding [05:43:02] http://wolfie-sims.com [05:43:18] But its only in the preferences area. [05:44:41] Emily2, ah, I see. where have you specified the custom CSS rules? those are not loaded in certain Special pages like UserLogin, Preferences, etc. [05:44:51] for security reasons [05:45:12] Is there a way I can load them in? [05:48:23] Emily2, where did you make the css modifications to monobook? [05:49:13] wolfie-sims.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css [05:50:25] Oh, I got it. I copied that into my main.css file [05:53:58] And, I know that its possible, but how do I remove the tabs in the preferences to make it all appear on one page? [05:55:41] Emily2, this has been fixed ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73621 ) and should've been backported to 1.19.23 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/175671/ (i think? so not sure why you still got that bug) [05:57:44] So, how can I fix it? [05:59:43] You've already worked around it by applying the styles through main.css. Editing main.css is discouraged, but what works works i guess. [06:02:04] Well, what about the tabs of the preferences? [06:10:36] try $("#preftoc").hide(); $("fieldset[id^=mw-prefsection]").show(); [08:00:00] Hello, I am Jovan Teo and I am here because I am participating in the google code in as username "mini_monstar". I have installed the IRC client mIRC on windows and I connected to freenode and registered as mini_monstarjo and here is my introduction. [08:01:12] I have been in the wiki-media-dev channel for about 2.5 hours but my task still isnt close. Can any of the mentor here help me? [08:02:51] minimonstarjo: Nemo will probably get online and close it tomorrow? don't worry [08:04:10] but [08:04:17] they say i have to stay here [08:04:26] so can I disconnect now? [08:05:15] thanks matma for ur help [08:05:44] yeah [08:30:18] hi [08:32:06] Thank you so much mediawiki [10:44:27] Dänks, dänks for the greatest know wikiwiki software [10:45:59] jubo2: Glad to hear that you like MediaWiki [10:46:36] bawolff: well I've been using it for 12 yrs this March and I have to say it is very good quality [10:50:45] :D [11:13:25] bawolff: could you tell about the possible areas where mediawiki is looking forward to work on this year? [11:14:49] codezee: Hmm, are you looking for what the WMF priorities are, or just in general? [11:15:25] That's actually a really good question. And I'm not entirely sure what the answer is [11:16:15] bawolff: actually I talked to you a month back when you helped me begin, now I'm enjoying being a part of the community fixing bugs, and now I'm looking forward for some areas to work on... [11:17:13] I know that portions of WMF really want to divide mediawiki up into independent services. But that's all quite controversial, and I'm sure will be more hashed out once the summit takes place next week [11:18:07] bawolff: alright! [11:18:46] codezee: I'm not sure if you're subscribed to wikitech-l, but there's been some recent threads about services vs small third party users [11:20:00] bawolff: yes I'm subscribed, but I might've missed among the many mails, I'll go through them... [11:20:23] its basically a bunch of yelling ;) [11:20:47] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering has a list of some projects that WMF plans to work on coming up [11:21:45] hmm, interesting. I'm still listed in the multimedia section of that page. That should probably be changed [11:22:30] codezee: Sorry, I feel like I didn't really give you a very good answer [11:23:00] bawolff: thanks for the link ,its ok! [11:23:04] I'm not really sure what the upcoming plans of the WMF are (beyond working on what they are already working on), and the non-WMF folks kind of do their own thing without much planning [11:24:25] bawolff: since I'm also planning to participate in gsoc,so I guess I'll get the related info from the wiki gsoc page, in some time [11:25:33] For gsoc, don't be afraid to come up with your own ideas for a project if there's something that interests you [11:26:34] bawolff: if one comes up with a new idea, where should it be put forth, on the mailing list I guess? [11:27:10] yeah, mailing list can be a good place to get feedback [11:27:47] Just make sure to include that its an idea for gsoc [11:29:17] bawolff: alright, will remember that! and thanks for the info... [11:29:33] irc can also be a good place to get initial feedback too if there's something you want some feedback on without quite posting it to the whole list [11:30:53] qgil is the person usually the mediawiki admin for gsoc, so he's also a good person to ask about gsoc concerns [11:32:46] bawolff: alright, I think, Feb will be the right time for that, till then I can get involved more [11:33:47] Sounds like you're on the right track. Having a history of participating in the community (and especially having gerrit commits) is a major determining factor when chosing gsoc students [11:36:02] bawolff: yes commits are also helping in understanding the code well... [11:37:17] If you're interested to see what sorts of thing WMF employees are working on, you may be interested in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Report/2014/October [11:38:35] oh i guess there are these goals: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2014-15_Goals [11:41:54] bawolff: that is quite a help, I'll explore these, and see what interests me! [11:42:44] But remember, that the WMF is not the be all and end all of mediawiki. Lots of things you can do that is not a WMF priority [11:43:27] e.g. Some of the smaller wikis (like wikisource) don't get very many resources thrown at them, and probably have all sorts of feature requests they'd like [11:46:24] bawolff: If I get it right, what you mean is that the WMF priorities are the major goals and there can be side developments that can be put forth for contribution [11:47:57] WMF priorities are things that Wikimedia foundation the non-profit thinks are important, and are spending money on vs other stuff that other people think are important [11:48:11] What is actually important seems to vary a lot based on who you ask [11:48:37] Hi chxxxtel [11:48:46] bawolff: ok, yes I get it [11:48:55] e.g. There exists some people in the community who think the flow and media viewer projects are silly [11:50:06] codezee: MediaWiki doesn't have a roadmap, if that's what you're asking [11:51:12] If you're looking for "bigger" projects to work on, there are multiple ways to find one depending on what sort of collaboration you are expecting [11:52:15] codezee: I assume you read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Possible_projects [11:53:08] We should come up with better outreach projects. All those look boring [11:53:34] bawolff: I'm sure you would be able to mentor good ones :) [11:53:44] bawolff: even "just" editing the page helps a lot [11:54:29] Nemo_bis: yes, I did see them, and presently translation and visual editor interest me, so exploring those... [11:54:30] The list in this period of the year is at its worst, because the most interesting projects were already picked by GSOC 2014 and OPW 9 interns ;) [11:54:36] I mean, like that list appears to be the same one as 3 years ago, just with all the projects people liked and actually did taken off [11:55:01] bawolff: dunno, most of the stuff is new I think [11:55:50] codezee: good; those are just ideas however. The advantage with fixing some bugs etc. beforehand is that you may find something else which is your own idea/interest with someone you like to work with [11:56:57] Nemo_bis: yes, presently after getting over with some bugs in core, I'm planning to work on those [11:56:58] Sigh, if only https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/advanced/ had a way to enter multiple tags at once [11:57:56] There are some ideas in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/aYwJ.6LCkfXa/#R as well [11:57:59] Just when you thought it was impossible to have a search that was worse than bugzilla ;) [11:58:23] Nemo_bis: as in: copy paste a list of tags to the search field? [11:59:27] oh wait, does project == tag [11:59:39] valhallasw`cloud: for instance [11:59:54] Even SemanticForms has better tag interface ^^ [12:01:55] Nemo_bis: thanks! [12:10:25] bawolff: one useful thing to do is marking reports in phabricator which are low priority not because we don't like them, but because they are too much work [12:23:44] bawolff, LOL [14:16:14] Hi. I'm toolboxx8. I'm doing this for the Google Code-in task. First time using an IRC client [14:20:07] is it possible to put onclick javascript into links? [14:21:29] Tuju: what are you trying to do? [14:21:48] Betacommand: put Google Analytics exit link hooks into some links. [14:22:21] Hi toolboxx8. [14:22:42] Tuju: there are extensions for that [14:23:45] Tuju: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Analytics_Integration [14:23:47] but no syntax to put js into link? [14:24:07] Tuju: random javascript is EVIL [14:24:21] it's not random if i write it. [14:24:49] Tuju: anyone can write their own js and add it to the page... See the problem? [14:24:54] Betacommand: does that work with 1.1.6/1.1.9 ? (can't remember which one) [14:25:08] Tuju: Upgrade your wiki [14:25:18] Betacommand: i can't. See the problem? [14:25:23] why not? [14:25:31] do i have to explain it? [14:25:59] I am just wondering your rationale [14:26:06] well dont. [14:27:28] Tuju: running such an old wiki means you have serious security issues, and are missing a lot of new features/improvements [14:27:51] Betacommand: nope, it doesn't. [14:28:20] and it might come as surprise, but in some cases new features and improvements are not the reason to exist in the first place. [14:29:00] but you're not alone thinking so, so don't worry. [14:29:13] Tuju: running 10 year old code meaning you do have security issues [14:29:41] yeah right. [14:30:47] Tuju: have you followed the security patch and vulnerability notices for the last 10 years? [14:30:58] no. Should i? [14:31:46] 1.1.6 doesn't exist as far as I know https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.1 [14:31:59] Yeah, there are often cases where holes are discovered that should be patched [14:32:24] * valhallasw`cloud guesses Tuju runs either 1.16 or 1.19 [14:32:30] ^ [14:32:35] Or 1.6 [14:32:38] Tuju: if you don't want to bother, using the debian packages might help [14:32:50] take a look at the heartbleed or shell-shock two massive issues within the last year [14:32:54] Though they come with their disadvantages as well [14:33:08] Nemo_bis: i would also need debian. I've Centos. [14:33:17] Hell my webserver is hit with shell-shock probes daily [14:33:34] Nemo_bis: actually, i appears that i've got both :) [14:34:14] Tuju: if your running 1.16 or 1.19 the extension that I linked will work for you [14:34:26] Well, Debian is not the only one packaging MW [14:34:36] Betacommand: ack, i try to git pull it - maybe it has 119 branch [14:34:47] Tuju: you might want to look at Special Version [14:35:44] hmm...does 119 already have that new Images tile-gallery? [14:37:14] hmmm... i already have that GA integration installed :D [14:49:19] Betacommand: but back to the original question, any idea how to activate those trackback /code links with that extension? [14:49:42] Tuju: Look at the extension docs [14:49:48] i tried [14:52:06] Are you referring to the general extensions docs or this particular extension docs? [15:31:02] Reedy: ty for wm2015 access btw :) [16:06:28] I keep discovering new such pages :( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows/MySQL_my.ini [16:33:42] Nemo_bis: I guess that one can be deleted. There's no link to it (excluding the redirect) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows/MySQL_my.ini [16:38:40] Vulpix: Ok. But I instead redirected it somewhere useful [16:41:21] aharoni thanks for the phab [16:45:27] Does meta have a template to request edits to protected pages? [16:45:34] Or a category [16:47:48] T13|needsCoffee: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Edit_Protected [16:50:48] Thanks, it wasn't mentioned on Help:Protection Help:System messages and didn't come up at the top in a search. :/ [16:55:31] search suggestions worked for me :P [16:55:48] Tried Template:Protect and Template:Edit [16:56:33] Yeah, I tried edit protect templates [16:56:51] Or something. Didn't filter by ns either [17:22:45] T13|needsCoffee: meta-wiki help pages are generic for all MediaWiki installs [17:42:58] Nemo_bis: I'll reword my see also addition then. :) [17:59:24] T13|needsCoffee: or you can rewrite the help page on mediawiki.org, and make the meta-wiki one contain only the wikimedia-specific info ;) [18:03:55] I take it my rewording was insufficient. I'll look into it. [20:22:02] Hello everybody! [20:24:29] I wanted to conduct a survey, here's the link https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YPH77F6 [20:24:52] I'd be really great to you all if you participate in the survey, it's very short and will barely take a minute [20:33:02] Husn: done; for surveys of this simple kind, however, we prefer limesurvey [20:33:32] Nemo_bis: thank you :)