[01:52:56] Evening all. [01:55:47] good evening. [02:01:08] Random question. when the PHP upload limit is increased in php.ini for a site, do I need to rebuild/redo anything on the mediawiki install (1.24.1 specifically)? I ask because my hosti ncreased my PHP upload limit to 10MB, and I am constantly getting an upload failed/too large file error on importing an .xml of 2.8MB [02:02:04] Not on the mediawiki side [02:02:13] Not sure if an apache/webserver restart might be needed [02:02:58] Hmmm. [02:03:31] !upload [02:03:31] File uploads are disabled by default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [02:03:37] dead bot is dead [02:04:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Make_sure_uploads_are_enabled_in_PHP [02:04:03] does phpinfo() display the correct 10mb? [02:04:16] I've dug around everything on the manuals and such for the uploads; the uploads work in general, and yeah, PHP correctly displays the 10MB. [02:04:19] Did they change both post_max_size and upload_max_filesize? [02:04:32] Yup. [02:04:40] wgMaxUploadSize is already 100MB [02:05:30] yes to which? ;) [02:06:16] Yes, both are changed to the higher amount. [02:06:35] does phpinfo() confirm? [02:07:24] Yes. [02:07:50] i'd check if uploading with something other than mw works, and if not tell the host that they have not fixed it [02:07:50] I'll message them; the only thing I could also find was the PHP reset. [02:07:55] anyone know why this github mirror isn't updating with the changes from gerrit? https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-Tempo [02:09:35] Is it possible to use MediaWiki under flat files? [02:10:06] why would you want to? [02:10:32] I hate backing up databases. [02:12:40] regardless of what you use, making backups is an important and simple server maintenance task.. if you use a cron job, you can set it and forget it [02:13:14] I heard MediaWiki used to use flat files on old versions. Which versions are those? If there are many major bugs, perhaps I can fix them myself. [02:14:22] why not use sqlite? [02:14:32] flat files? [02:14:34] lol [02:14:45] mediawiki, in it's current incarnation never did [02:14:52] lojjik: There's a known issue. replication is broken [02:15:09] ah, ok [02:15:45] but yeah, sqlite is the closest MW uses to a flat file [02:15:48] in that it's only one file [02:16:11] lojjik: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87248 if you want to track progress [02:16:55] thanks :) [02:17:02] hopefully we can poke ops to get on with it soon [02:17:09] wikimedia staff have been busy in meetings most of the week [02:17:12] SQLite? [02:17:23] so as it's not a crucial service (but is very useful), it's not so high on their list [02:17:45] How do I set up that? Sorry for the newbie question. [02:17:55] you just choose it during install [02:18:00] instead of mysql/postgres [02:18:17] AlexHofstadter, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SQLite [02:18:55] * Daley thinks other users in here are getting help rather than him. Favouritism? [02:20:01] Daley it's possible someone didn't see your question, feel free to say it again [02:22:32] Hey, my webhost offers a 1-click MediaWiki installation. But it automatically chooses MySQL. [02:23:07] Last night I accidentally deleted my databases on my website so it doesn't show mediawiki or phpbb. [02:23:31] You use phpBB? [02:23:56] A tip, use myUPB or YaBB. [02:24:47] Or MyBB. [02:27:39] I have a 20 GB Linux webhost. Is that enough to host MediaWiki? [02:28:18] sure it is [02:29:07] see? I asked. nothing..... [02:29:30] doesn't matter. Suppose I could get my website changed to something else. [02:29:57] what? [02:30:10] "[18:23] Last night I accidentally deleted my databases on my website so it doesn't show mediawiki or phpbb." is that supposed to be a question? [02:30:12] A bit of a newbie question, but I found a flat-file Perl forum engine I like. Is there any way to make it share log in credentials with MediaWiki? [02:32:39] It's YaBB. [02:33:35] could anyone tell if HTMLcheckmatrix supports fetching row labels from i18n file? [04:34:53] Hi everyone, I would like to contribute to mediawiki. Can anyone recommend some easy bugs ? [06:18:05] Question. Will a fresh mediawiki install pick up on the correct/current PHP settings? [06:18:45] Because I'm looking at my upload tool just as a test, after my host increased my file upload limit to 100MB for testing purposes, and my upload tool gives a 1ooB total on the page itself. [06:48:36] Anyone have any thoughts? It seems like the PHP alterations haven't taken effect on the server (perhaps needing an apache/webserver reboot?) [08:18:51] hi all [08:37:31] I have a question about login page and remembering password [08:41:18] ValerioC: Ask away. But I'm afraid the important people aren't around, Saturday it is. [08:42:06] ;) [08:42:29] I would like to keep checked by default Remember me on login page [08:46:12] ValerioC: I'm not aware of a way to do that beyond the 30 days limit either. :) [08:46:45] I mean the checkbox checked by default [08:47:09] actually it is unchecked [08:49:17] I set $wgDefaultUserOptions['rememberpassword'] = 1; on localsetting but it isn't working [09:15:39] I go, thx [09:40:47] petan: hi, I think you are the only "tools" admin awake [09:41:00] Can you do this umount/mount https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87013#989433 on tools-exec-10 ? [16:01:14] Morning all. [16:31:52] Okay, I have a question. I know MW defaults to 100MB upload limit. My server host has increased to match (since I am having issues with uploads) and php confirms this. On my Upload page, it says 100B is the max upload limit. I have looked in LocalSettings.php and DefaultSettings.php and can't find anything that would be causing that limitation. Is there anywhere else I should look in MW before I toss this back to my server host? [16:32:44] 100B? (no MB?) [16:34:34] Yes, 100B. [16:35:27] And PHP confirms that all of the appropriate PHP-side settings are set to 100MB on my shared hosting. And I have tried having no configure in localsettings.php, and a configure of 50MB just to see if it would override in localsettings.php, and no love. [16:36:43] I also uninstalled and reinstalled MW just to see if there was something weird, and it stayed 100B. [16:37:22] that seems to be a php.ini configuration, then [16:37:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxUploadSize [16:37:48] check the upload_max_filesize and post_max_size PHP configuration options [16:38:46] you can use phpinfo() to see those values [16:39:37] I have already done that. All of the appropriate values via phpinfo() are set to 100MB appropriately. [16:44:01] So I was going to try to see if there's anything else on the MW side to check before I put this back into the ticket. And I have on my side no max upload size, still shows 100B. Value set to 100M; still shows 100B. [16:45:41] nothing that I'm aware of. Still, it's strange that MediaWiki reports that if phpinfo shows higher values [16:47:21] I know. It's a fresh install too. The only other thing I can think now is, maybe the webserver needs rebooted on my portion of the shared host in apache? [18:15:13] Nemo_bis: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3AParser_functions&diff=1371957&oldid=1202159 <-- right? [18:27:46] marktraceur: yes [18:28:20] btw guillom had found a smarter way to do this (which only required editing templates), which didn't get popular among the wikignomes and t. admins [18:46:13] I have recently run into a problem on my wiki in the fact that the special pages are blank. They were working fine and now they are now, how do I fix this [18:50:35] smoss: did you try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Blank_page [18:52:45] Nemo_bis: There is nothing there [18:55:41] it's a blank page, literally [18:56:13] smoss: look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#All_pages_have_no_content.2C_but_when_editing_a_page_the_wiki_text_is_there [18:56:46] assuming it's the same problem, of course [18:58:45] Vulpix: I don't think it this since this is all I see http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/index.php?title=Special:SpecialPages [18:59:19] mmm, I don't. I see a 500 Internal Server Error there [18:59:25] !blank | smoss [18:59:25] smoss: A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [19:01:22] while a new signup in the local instance of mw vagrant i get "Unknown error in PHP's mail() function." Is this a bug worth to be reported ? http://imgur.com/EbhkSYe [19:07:13] Vulpix: I got the debug on and fix the issues, but it still now working on that one page. The SpecialPages are there and I can get to them, but that page is just not showing anything [19:14:35] smoss: sorry, I meant https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Blank_page [19:15:19] (I'm always tricked by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69024 ) [19:15:39] Nemo_bis: I found that pager after the link and it didn't work. When I had debug on it showed me some skins that were not fixed, however the page is still blank [19:17:23] Abhi: if you are sure you followed setup docs, yes [19:18:13] smoss: I don't understand, are you sying that the page is blank but no fatal errors are found in the logs? [19:18:31] Nemo_bis: That appears to be correct [19:23:52] you should set error_reporting and display_errors to display any error on the page [19:24:35] the debug log doesn't log fatals AFAIK, only the server error log does [19:36:37] Nemo_bis: Thanks for helping me everywhere :p https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87516 Seek your suggestion if its fine ? However i am working to fix it now. [22:33:01] hi everyone, [22:33:24] is there a way to create like a list / Array on one page then link to that list from other locations ? [22:41:03] MichaelHabib, you could just make a page with a bulleted or numbered list [22:41:14] then link to that page like you would link to an article [22:43:05] GEOFBOT_: ty, nice and simple (im kinda new to MediaWiki) ... but is there another way to take a portion of a page's content and display it on another page without the above method ? [22:44:38] MichaelHabib, you mean transcluding one page to another like a template? [22:45:27] brb [22:45:33] kk [22:48:22] GEOFBOT_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion :D [23:09:00] MichaelHabib, great, good luck with your wiki :) [23:09:30] GEOFBOT_: ty :) its more of a place to orgnize my info, tutorials and notes ;)\ [23:09:54] wiki.MichaelHabib.name [23:17:28] Q : which is more correct "Food Handling Procedure" or "Procedures" ?