[01:29:20] <hypergrove>	 in my apache log I'm seeing "GET /var/www/w24a19/images/wiki.cnvc.org/images/thumb/6/61/Sample_wiki_instructions.JPG/120px-Sample_wiki_instructions.JPG HTTP/1.1". I set $wgUploadDirectory = "$IP/images/$homepath/images". I don't want the DocRoot to be in the GET! It has /var/www/w24a19, whihc is the docroot
[01:30:29] <hypergrove>	 $homepath is a link to the home directory for the site
[01:43:26] <GEOFBOT>	 dayum
[02:36:30] <Schroeder>	 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/american-sniper-is-almost-too-dumb-to-criticize-20150121
[03:44:18] <prech>	 Hi there, would anyone know if there's a Parser function or combination of them, to evaluate if a parameter is both 0 and declared? That is, both #ifexpr (>0) and #if (declared)
[03:45:35] <Abuuuse>	 {{#ifexpr:{{{foo|0}}}>0}} ?
[03:45:52] <Abuuuse>	 untested
[03:46:05] <Abuuuse>	 BTW parser functions are ugly
[03:46:33] <prech>	 Thanks, I'll give that a try... what do you recommend for an infobox field instead?
[03:47:26] <T13|detached>	 If it is 0 then it is declared.
[03:47:59] <Abuuuse>	 Well, parser functions are like Perl (<6); they work, but they're not elegant. You could use Scribunto / Lua if you want to use a real programming language, but it's probably harder to install.
[03:48:39] <jackmcbarn>	 Scribunto is easy to install on most systems (same as any other extension)
[03:49:00] <jackmcbarn>	 it's only difficult if you're on something other than windows, mac, or linux, or if you're not allowed to run executables from php
[03:49:07] <T13|detached>	 {{#ifexpr:{{#ifeq:{{{foo|}}}||-1|{{{foo}}}}}>0|
[03:49:09] <Abuuuse>	 Actually, Perl is much better than ParserFunctions. Parser functions were supposed to be for basic templating, but they evolved into a wacky programming language (which may or may not be Turing-complete)
[03:49:33] <jackmcbarn>	 Abuuuse: parser functions aren't Turing-complete, since they have no iteration or recursion
[03:50:09] <Abuuuse>	 jackmcbarn: a template can't transclude itself?
[03:50:31] <Abuuuse>	 I thought it could but there was some recursion limit which renders it Turing-incomplete
[03:50:48] <jackmcbarn>	 Abuuuse: if you're looking at the template page itself, it's allowed to transclude itself once for documentation examples and stuff
[03:50:51] <jackmcbarn>	 otherwise, not at all
[03:52:59] <Abuuuse>	 T13|detached: isn't {{#ifeq:{{{foo|}}}||-1|{{{foo}}}}} just a longer way of writing {{{foo|-1}}} ?
[03:53:19] <T13|detached>	 Not exactly.
[03:53:37] <Abuuuse>	 Why? Because of whitespace arguments or something?
[03:53:46] <jackmcbarn>	 Abuuuse: no, because of the case where foo is set to the empty string
[03:53:53] <T13|detached>	 What if someone calls the template with |foo=
[03:53:54] <Abuuuse>	 ah
[03:55:13] <Abuuuse>	 yep, didn't think of that (I haven't edited templates for a while)
[04:11:15] <prech>	 Thanks, both
[04:15:10] <JacksonIsaac>	 Hi Everyone o/, I have built mediawiki and set up vagrant. I would like to work on bug #T51017 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51017
[04:15:57] <Fiona>	 Hi JacksonIsaac.
[04:16:25] <Fiona>	 Neat.
[04:17:43] <Fiona>	 That task looks like a mess.
[04:18:56] <JacksonIsaac>	 Fiona: I am trying to reproduce it, will give it a try. Does is depend on any other bug ?
[04:19:07] <Fiona>	 Don't think so.
[04:22:37] <JacksonIsaac>	 After clicking on create account got this:https://dpaste.de/J1R8
[04:24:50] <JacksonIsaac>	 id that I used is foobiefool@gmail.com
[04:26:22] <Fiona>	 Is that a valid e-mail address?
[04:27:45] <JacksonIsaac>	 yes, just created and logged into it
[04:28:03] <Fiona>	 You made the username "foobiefool@gmail.com"?
[04:28:14] <Fiona>	 I think "@" is disallowed in usernames.
[04:28:50] <JacksonIsaac>	 username is foo
[04:28:52] <Abuuuse>	 Yeah, I think you can't create email addresses as usernames (although you used to be able to)
[04:29:17] <jackmcbarn>	 isn't that a wikipedia-specific thing?
[04:29:26] <jackmcbarn>	 i think mediawiki itself allows it
[04:29:29] <JacksonIsaac>	 error is related to email address, as I pasted previously
[04:29:31] <Abuuuse>	 It might be actually.
[04:29:51] <JacksonIsaac>	 devwiki could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your email address for invalid characters.
[04:30:14] <Fiona>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgInvalidUsernameCharacters btw.
[04:30:32] <Abuuuse>	 thanks Fiona 
[04:30:56] <Abuuuse>	 JacksonIsaac: did you install those MW dependencies that are now required for email?
[04:31:07] <Abuuuse>	 or was that not merged?
[04:31:18] <jackmcbarn>	 vagrant comes with all that built in
[04:31:21] <Abuuuse>	 oh
[04:31:32] <JacksonIsaac>	 I followed the steps here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant
[04:31:39] <jackmcbarn>	 though i'm not sure if vagrant is configured right to send emails
[04:31:56] <JacksonIsaac>	 vagrant up and then vagrant provision
[04:32:15] <JacksonIsaac>	 I had to remove /vagrant/mediawiki as my network was weak and the download used to fail
[04:32:23] <JacksonIsaac>	 and try vagrant provision again
[04:32:56] <Fiona>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/includes/User.php#L4000
[04:36:16] <JacksonIsaac>	 I can see the file and the code Fiona mentioned in my local codebase
[04:36:40] <JacksonIsaac>	 is there something else I need to install or set up?
[04:40:31] <Rabutz>	 hi, does some one know how i can get GraphViz to work on windows and apache in mediawiki?
[06:04:15] <Volund>	 very quick question.
[06:04:39] <Volund>	 let's say I have a list of pages that I know. I want to replace {{Log Header with {{Old Log Header
[06:04:51] <Volund>	 because Log Header will soon be used for something else
[06:05:03] <Volund>	 what's the quickest way to do this?
[06:08:16] <unicodesnowman>	 Volund, maybe https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text
[06:12:50] <JacksonIsaac>	 Fiona: jackmcbarn Abuuuse were you able reproduce the same error message ?
[06:13:06] * Abuuuse didn't try
[06:13:15] <Fiona>	 I didn't try.
[06:15:49] <Volund>	 ooooh. that's working.
[06:15:55] <Volund>	 kind of odd that it's working SLOWLY but...
[06:17:31] <Volund>	 wish I knew -how- this thing manages to stagger it
[07:04:41] <JacksonIsaac>	 Anyone getting this error :https://dpaste.de/J1R8 while creating a new account ?
[07:06:29] <Abuuuse>	 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Please+check+your+email+address+for+invalid+characters.++Mailer+returned%3A+Unknown+error+in+PHP%27s+mail%28%29+function%22
[07:06:45] <Abuuuse>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Unknown_error_in_PHP%27s_mail%28%29_function
[07:06:54] <Abuuuse>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSMTP#Error_sending_mail:_Unknown_error_in_PHP.27s_mail.28.29_function_Mediawiki
[07:07:10] <Abuuuse>	 did you try that?
[07:17:20] <JacksonIsaac>	 so for each account I create I will need to modify the username and pass in LocalSettings.php
[07:18:53] <Reedy>	 o_0
[07:37:40] <JacksonIsaac>	 I need to restart the virtualmachine after any changes I made of can I just run vagrant provision
[07:38:28] <JacksonIsaac>	 or*
[08:52:39] <JacksonIsaac>	 I have installed mail and smtp using pear and I am getting this error now: https://dpaste.de/pXa4 . I found similar error here : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/fatal_error_to_create_accounts but can't understand what changes should I do and where. I have added pear in my environment path
[12:31:24] <Repton>	 Does anyone know the extension name for users getting email confirmation emails? I can't seem to find it in mediawiki.org. :/
[12:43:17] <valhallasw`cloud>	 Repton: I think that's built-in
[12:43:32] <Repton>	 Oh ok
[13:05:49] <Repton>	 valhallasw`cloudepton: Where would it be?
[13:06:21] <valhallasw`cloud>	 Repton: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEmailAuthentication
[13:39:02] <Repton>	 So I set that in my LocalSettings.php should it work now?
[13:42:41] <valhallasw`cloud>	 Repton: you probably need to configure email in general if you haven't done that yet
[13:44:06] <Repton>	 Oh where's a page that tells me how and where to do that on mediawiki.org ?
[14:26:41] <Repton>	 $wgNoReplyAddress = $wgEmergencyContact; so should this be about it?
[14:28:09] <impacific>	 Repton: did u try clicking ¨Confirm your email address¨ in user preferences?
[14:28:49] <Repton>	 I did before the email setup so I got nothing then
[14:34:44] <Repton>	 Now I did and I still didn't get a email
[14:42:51] <valhallasw`cloud>	 Repton: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Email_settings
[14:49:44] <ronin>	 would it be possible to get certain state from the database, so for example would it be possible to return the mediawiki state to an earlier point, 6months ago
[14:56:48] <Vulpix>	 I guess not. Since the revision table primary key is the "revision id", which gets incremented on every edit, you could somewhat identify what revisions were done before or after a given date, but nothing more, and of course not to return the wiki to that point
[14:57:12] <Repton>	 http://pastebin.com/nYfQMH3y should that be all I need or no?
[15:24:14] <impacific>	 Repton: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/MediaWiki_not_sending_email this might help you
[16:04:17] <JacksonIsaac>	 I have installed mail and smtp using pear and I am getting this error now: https://dpaste.de/pXa4 . I found similar error here : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/fatal_error_to_create_accounts but can't understand what changes should I do and where. I have added pear in my environment path
[16:07:06] <JacksonIsaac>	 ^ https://dpaste.de/DDaE
[16:13:13] <Vulpix>	 you need to install the mail and Net_SMTP packages of pear, although I think vagrant is supposed to already have them
[16:15:05] <Vulpix>	 well, apparently the mail packages for pear have been added to vagrant this week: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87516
[18:08:51] <Repton>	 I need immediate help my wiki crashed and idk why
[18:09:22] <Repton>	 A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.
[18:12:13] <Vulpix>	 !debug
[18:12:13] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[18:12:31] <Vulpix>	 Repton: ^ activate the display of SQL errors as explained there
[18:23:14] <Repton>	 I thought switching databases would help but it didn't now I will have to start all over again..
[18:25:04] <Betacommand>	 Repton: what happens when you enabled debugging>
[18:25:37] <Repton>	 It said my new database didn't exist or something like that
[19:27:01] <egradman>	 Quick question.  I'm currently downloading enwiki-20150112-pages-articles.xml.bz2.  Is the quickest way to get a local Wikipedia mirror running to use https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-vagrant?
[19:28:42] <egradman>	 That's not a good question.  Rather, are there any gotchas I should be aware of that will make using that vagrant box difficult if I'm trying to make a local mirror?
[19:29:59] <aclonedsheep>	 egradman, interesting you asked that. I was just thinking I would want to do something like that with my wiki...thanks for the link. I have no answers for you though. heh
[21:49:05] <Repton>	 http://hypotheticalhurricanes.hol.es/mediawiki-1.24.1/index.php?title=Main_Page is there a way to make this site visible to Firefox users it's seems to not want to let them see it at all
[21:53:18] <FlorianSW>	 Repton: What do you mean? I can access this page in chrome and firefox without problems
[21:54:20] <Repton>	 Oh this one user said he couldn't view the site from firefox
[21:54:45] <Repton>	 He's on a wikia wiki that I know him from
[21:55:07] <FlorianSW>	 Repton: if he can't see it, it seems to be not a problem of mediawiki :)
[21:55:35] * Repton sighs in relief *
[21:56:04] <Repton>	 So it's not everyone that uses Firefox then ok
[22:06:48] <Betacommand>	 Repton: works for me, I use FF
[22:08:01] <ebraminio>	 *if any of you see this message would merge one of the patches here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:ebrahim%2540gnu.org+status:open,n,z T51093 will be fixed now* (inspired by wikimedia fundraising slogan)