[00:06:17] quit [03:06:37] marktraceur: I'm the sassmaster. [03:15:29] Fiona: :) [03:59:53] :waves [04:03:52] I am looking for someone that can help me fix what I am doing wrong on my page. I am trying really hard to make hyperlinks to something on the lower half of a page. and it just /won't/ go. [04:22:26] am I in the right room for that? getting help? [04:34:40] Hi BuggedPixy. [04:34:48] Sure, can you provide a link to what you're working on? [04:35:02] Usually the answer is something like... [04:35:10] [[#link|text]] [04:35:23] And then

anchor

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. [04:39:20] RIP. [04:39:33] https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor [06:07:03] is it feasible to use mediawiki to make a book (with some pictures but mostly text)? [06:07:08] or is that just a bad idea [06:07:20] can you elaborate? [06:08:28] Seranok: if you're talking about taking a bunch of wiki pages and exporting them in a book-like format, check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [06:10:56] if you're talking about actually writing/typesetting a book in mediawiki (where you have pages named Page 1, Page 2, etc. or something similar), it's probably not the best tool for the job [09:15:55] any gsoc mentor here ? [09:53:15] uhm, mw.org admins: RC needs you [11:49:31] Hi I'm trying to build the mediawiki source code. Can anybody help me ? I'm stuck at some point [11:51:27] anirudhgp: what are you having problems with? [11:53:16] Ok so i extracted the tar file [11:53:16] And i try to run http://[localhost]/home/gp/MediaWiki/core/mw-config/index.php in my browser [11:53:17] but it just googles it [11:53:39] do you have a webserver running? [11:53:45] um [11:53:52] it's got nothing to do with whether a webserver is running [11:54:02] No I do not have a webserver running [11:54:30] catsup: it kinda does [11:54:43] anirudhgp: did you literally typing '[localhost]'? you probably mjean just 'localhost'. And you're very likely not serving the files from your root on your web server. in any case, it's your web browser that's not connecting to the server [11:55:06] MC8: no, his client is going to the wrong place, so the server doesn't matter (yet) [11:55:10] @catsup : What am i supposed to do then? [11:55:15] if you go to http://localhost, do you get anything, anirudhgp [11:55:33] without the comma ... http://localhost [11:55:34] Nope [11:55:44] Unable to connect [11:57:21] that's because you don't have a web server :) [11:57:21] Oh ok ! How do i set one up? [11:57:21] uh [11:57:22] this isn't really the place for that [11:57:22] @catsup sorry I'll look it up on my own. Thanks ! [11:57:22] look for informationspecific to your linux distro [13:08:58] hi, someone may remember. i got help some 45 hours to move from 1.19 (wheezy) to 1.23 (LTS). after i've seen that there would'nt be any conflicts i decided to also reinstall the old version (to compare and i had some content yet). well i had to REISUB and after restarting the browser now with the open config tab, another question was answered i was looking for so hard: [13:08:59] A Session lasts 24 mins and to change this it needs session.gc_maxlifetime in php.ini. Seen that before but since 24*60 also CAN mean the # of minuntes per day i didn't relly realized it. One of those hapy little accidents. only: which of the 4 php.ini i have, it irritates me every time [13:43:07] does mediawiki rely completely on php's garbage collection regarding length of a login session? [15:25:02] EdePopede: REISUB ? [15:34:29] "Get active: hug a developer" https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-201502.en.html [15:34:52] Betacommand: last resort for rebooting [15:35:09] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [15:37:16] Hello. I am trying to add a footer banner to all MediaWiki pages. I am using the 'OutputPageParserOutput' hook and it is working great, except for RecentChanges. [15:37:25] There, I cannot get the footer to go under the changes. [15:37:48] I expect the page has a different output layout. [15:38:01] Is anybody familiar with the situation? [15:45:05] Betacommand: SysReq+R E I S U B -- nothing but the cursor reacting. geeqie: dead. clock: dead. [15:54:02] s/geeqie/conky/ [16:37:05] howdy [16:37:38] is it possible to define a custom CSS class directly on the page ? instead of in a separeat css file ? [17:31:57] Guest62130: Not really, no. You can add style to elements on the page, though. [17:43:16] legoktm: how many proposal were sent for gsoc last year? [17:43:24] hi [17:43:30] I'm not sure, there should be a list on-wiki [17:43:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 [18:19:58] Can someone change the owner of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseView,access to extension-Wikibase ? [18:20:05] ^d: ^ [18:20:24] <^d> {{done}} [18:20:50] ^d: hah, you win the quick fix of the day badge [18:20:53] thnx [18:21:04] <^d> yw :) [18:21:35] Hi, I am trying to confirm email and I am getting this output "Class undefined: Net_SMTP" now. Do I need to set some SMTP variable somewhere? [18:22:11] JacksonIsaac: you need to instal "mail" and Net_SMTP packages from pear PHP [18:22:24] Vulpix: Yes I have done that [18:22:57] and added /Users/JacksonIsaac/pear/share/pear to install_path in php.ini.default too [18:23:18] maybe they aren't installed in the path where PHP looks for those libraries [18:23:33] php.ini.default doesn't seem to be the right place [18:23:46] it should be php.ini, without the "default" ending [18:23:50] php.ini is in /etc/ [18:24:00] but pear was installed in my Users directory [18:24:07] I am using vagrant on Mac OS X [18:25:15] Should I just cp it to php.ini than ? [18:25:16] then* [18:25:36] JacksonIsaac: All that messing about directly on your laptop was a wild goose chase I sent you on because I didn't realize you were using MediaWiki-Vagarant [18:25:59] The changes need to be made inside the Vm that vagrant manages [18:26:29] which should in theory be taken care of by `vagrant provision` applying out puppet rules [18:26:45] but it sounds like there is still some problem with that [18:26:53] bd808: I have done that, after that only this error came up [18:27:52] bd808: should I revert back the change I did in php.ini.default ? [18:28:36] JacksonIsaac: You certainly can if you would like. It won't help the VM [18:29:06] or maybe build mediawiki from source ? [18:30:30] Sending mail from the MediaWiki-Vagrant VM was certainly broken until very recently. We thought we fixed it with https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87516 but maybe there is still something missing [18:31:27] http://pastebin.com/38SeDPKs how do I fix this avatar upload error? [18:32:09] On line 341? [18:33:23] JacksonIsaac: It looks like we are missing more PEAR packages on MediaWiki-Vagrant. I'll reopen the bug and see if I can figure it out. [18:35:37] JacksonIsaac: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87516#1020925 [18:36:20] bd808: Maybe I can try working on this bug ? [18:36:48] Hi I'm trying to build mediawiki and it says "Upload the files to your web server's web directory" [18:36:58] Should i create an apache server and upload it on that? [18:38:10] bd808: we will need to add the package name under packages in puppet/modules/php/manifests/init.pp [18:38:23] JacksonIsaac: Sure! I think what we need is another patch to the puppet config similar to that adds the 'php-net-smtp' apt package [18:38:56] php-net-smtp recommends php-auth-sasl so we may as well add that too [18:39:01] yup searching for the package in packages.debian [18:40:10] Not installing recommended packages by default was an optimization we made to MediaWiki-Vagrant to keep disk utilization down. [18:40:35] This looks like a time that it bit me because I didn't really test the mail sending after the last patch [18:40:38] * bd808 was lazy [18:42:33] bd808: is it ubuntu or debian packages we need to look for [18:44:05] We are using Ubuntu 14.04. I'm pretty sure the packages that are missing are "php-net-smtp" and "php-auth-sasl". Try adding those to your puppet/modules/php/manifests/init.pp and then running `vagrant provision` [18:44:16] already running :) [18:44:36] excellent. Add me to the review when you make the patch [18:44:49] I'm "BryanDavis" in gerrit [18:45:17] * JacksonIsaac already saw that too [18:48:52] Hey i needed some help wih building the mediawiki source code [18:50:39] "building"? [18:52:41] Setting it up i meant [19:07:31] It is stuck on connecting when I click on 'send confirmation email' [19:08:39] The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. [19:20:36] https://dpaste.de/RA1h I have set this https://dpaste.de/47ys in LocalSettings.php [19:39:27] bd808|LUNCH: Is this a bug too ? [19:51:08] bd808|LUNCH: Got it :) I had to enable access from my gmail account :) [19:51:22] Confirmation email sent. \m/ [19:55:33] * JacksonIsaac trying to create patch [20:15:16] Hi [20:17:13] I would need some help in lua, I'm very bad in coding questions, I'd like to create a module that removes the last character of a given parameter, for example chat --> cha ; mediawiki --> mediawik ; english --> englis [20:17:20] I have commited my changes, now what should I do next ? push the changes to the master ? [20:17:53] do you have git-review installed? [20:18:08] I've tried with str.Substring but I get a script error (I don't even understand how a module actually wrks) [20:20:02] Krenair: Just installed it [20:20:18] did you put your public key in gerrit? [20:20:41] yes [20:21:16] git-review -s [20:25:06] Krenair: https://dpaste.de/7Hf2 [20:27:07] Can I show a WikiMedia article in popup when mouse is over an internal link? [20:27:27] JacksonIsaac, try `ssh jacksonisaac@gerrit.wikimedia.org -p 29418` in your terminal [20:27:58] see what that does [20:28:08] Permission denied (public key) [20:28:11] "" - I guess that's a git-review bug :) [20:28:11] ok [20:28:30] did you put your public key in... wikitech? I think that might be required.. [20:28:32] I had added it to gerrit and also using ssh-add [20:29:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Popups shows only an excerpt, but I want an entire article in popup. Possible? [20:31:39] Krenair: still same error [20:34:13] Krenair: I had to do ssh-add again [20:34:16] now I can login [20:34:38] Got Welcome to gerrit review .... [20:35:39] great [20:35:42] now try git-review -s again [20:35:59] Creating a git remote called "gerrit" that maps to: ssh://JacksonIsaac@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/vagrant.git [20:37:28] git push gerrit master ? [20:37:33] no [20:37:38] git-review [20:38:03] `git push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master` would also work, IIRC. git-review is preferred [20:38:43] It failed I guess https://dpaste.de/gTEk [20:41:14] Change-id should have automatically be added when I had commited ? [20:41:40] JacksonIsaac: when git-review sets itself up right, yes [20:42:09] you can add the change id manually this time. git commit --amend and paste "Change-Id: I71cef810d667bdf45eb2e7162ebd7395fca83037" into the end of the commit message [20:42:52] then try git review again to push it to gerrit [20:43:34] bd808: done :) [20:43:56] in future to add that automatically I have to install hook ? [20:44:01] hello, (new to this) could someone tell me which css I'm likely to find the font and font colour for 'code' templates? [20:44:55] JacksonIsaac: Yeah. That's what git-review -s is supposed to do for you [20:45:21] you could try running that again [20:45:23] and it didn't :P [20:46:02] Added you as reviewer too :) [20:46:14] Looking now [20:46:42] when the hook setup works correctly you will have a .git/hooks/commit-msg script that adds the change-id line [20:46:49] * JacksonIsaac git-review looks awesome, no need of patch or PR [20:47:13] I ran git-review -s and didn't get any output though [20:48:49] JacksonIsaac: merged! you are a contributor to MediaWiki-Vagrant now :) [20:50:28] bd808: Awesome, was trying to fix this actually https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51017 and fixed another one :) [20:51:05] JacksonIsaac: neat. Now you can get back to work on the first bug [20:53:05] * JacksonIsaac needs to sleep for 5 hours, already 2.30 AM. [20:53:20] please do remember to sleep :) [20:53:21] bye guys, thanks bd808 and Krenair [20:54:49] MediaWiki. Keeping you sleepless, since 2001 [20:55:19] * bd808 needs to finish the new quips service he started [20:55:44] Is it called bash.org? :P [20:55:52] * Nemo_bis misses quips.cgi [20:56:14] I have http://tools.wmflabs.org/bash/ but nothing there yet :/ [20:56:58] I was going to write a simple app but then got distracted by ... whatever [20:58:48] gnight JacksonIsaac [20:59:08] bd808, why not phabricator.wikimedia.org/bash? :p [20:59:53] Krenair: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245 [21:44:47] anyone familiar with with echo? [21:45:02] !ask [21:45:02] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [21:45:53] marktraceur: seriously? [21:46:05] Seriously. [21:47:40] Its a request for more details on exactly how notifications work, who can and cannot trigger them, and under what conditions. I can go into more detail but its a waste of time if noone around knows echo [21:47:54] You have to type it anyway [21:48:33] If I don't know the answer, and can't find it, I can ping people I think might be able to help [21:48:52] Without more information I'm hesitant to ping all the people who work on echo and be like "YO, LISTEN UP" [21:49:37] marktraceur: the jist of the request is details on on exactly how notifications work, who can and cannot trigger them, and under what conditions. [21:50:00] OK well [21:50:21] Betacommand: I think it depends largely on which notification you're talking about [21:50:28] Different ones have different permission levels [21:50:40] marktraceur: {{ping}} for example [21:50:54] Pretty sure there are no restrictions on username mention notifications [21:51:29] marktraceur: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%CE%94#Ping_test [21:51:52] Huh. [21:52:25] Oh, from a banned user [21:52:40] Iiiinteresting. [21:53:16] Betacommand: Do you want to allow banned users to do {{ping}} and notify people, or...? [21:54:19] marktraceur: I dont see a reason that blocked users shouldnt be able to use it. Its an easy way to poke the blocking admin or other use casees. [21:54:37] if they abuse it revoke talk page access like normal [21:55:43] Hm. [21:55:50] otherwise your introducing a handycap without a good reason [21:55:51] Betacommand: Want to phile a phlask? [21:55:53] !bug [21:55:54] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ [21:55:59] fail [21:55:59] God damn it wm-bot [21:56:03] !file [21:56:03] There are multiple keys, refine your input: filecache, filepermissions, filesize, filetype, fileupload, fileurl, [21:56:11] fail again [21:56:12] !newbug [21:56:12] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/ [21:56:14] HAH [21:56:16] I GOT IT [21:56:17] TAKE THAT. [21:56:32] marktraceur: third times a charm [22:01:07] marktraceur: {{done}} [22:01:15] Yay [22:01:45] I didn't see it in any IRC feeds, weird [22:02:10] Oh, maybe it's not in any projects [22:02:12] Betacommand: Link? [22:02:30] marktraceur: tagged for echo [22:02:44] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88853 [22:03:11] Oh, I see it. [22:03:12] OK [22:03:14] Cool beans [22:27:15] Hello, several of my users are getting this message, "You do not have permission to edit your private information, for the following reason: [22:27:16] The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users." [22:29:27] smoss: What extension(s) are you using? [22:29:37] Or more accurately, what extension is giving you that error? [22:29:52] Also: Are the users that are getting that *in* the group Users? [22:30:27] marktraceur: The only extension we have is ConfirmEdit. And this pops up after we create the users and they can't edit anything [22:32:29] marktraceur: Here are the $wgGroupPermissions that we are using https://dpaste.de/J58C [22:33:21] smoss: Again, are the people getting the error in the Users group? [22:33:46] marktraceur: No because they are not being placed in the group [22:33:52] Well [22:33:57] Then there's your problem [22:34:13] marktraceur: How do put them in the group, is what I'm trying to see [22:35:16] I'm confused too [22:35:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#List_of_groups says they should be in it if they have a real account [22:35:39] smoss: Are they logged in? [22:38:05] marktraceur: It won't let them log in period, [22:38:13] OK... [22:38:23] smoss: What error message do they get when they try to log in? [22:39:24] marktraceur: The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users [22:39:50] ...logging in? [22:39:51] What the fuck [22:41:30] Yep, no idea what the problem is unless it deal with them have a temp password sent to their email? [22:55:24] smoss: Maaaybe. [22:55:30] smoss: Were they not able to register? [22:55:46] Oh, wait. [22:55:50] I bet I know what's happening here. [22:55:59] smoss: What is the link they're using to log in? [22:56:58] Special:UserLogin [23:01:26] smoss: The exact link, please. [23:01:30] http:// and all [23:02:28] http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin [23:03:07] marktraceur? I think I figured out the problem, it did deal with the temp password, now trying to get them to confirm there email accounts [23:04:40] Hm. [23:04:42] OK smoss. [23:07:27] Is there no way to confirm a user email [23:09:20] Or anyway so that a user doesn't have to confirm their email address to start editing [23:11:23] smoss: I would revert to as few permission settings as possible in localsettings [23:11:41] let the default settings be inherited [23:12:47] Betacommand: The Fleet Admins want it like this [23:13:33] smoss: odds are something is crossed in your settings causing this [23:14:24] smoss: anything that is different than default you can keep, but I would remove all the settings that are default in mediawiki [23:14:39] user = read for example [23:18:52] So, did anyone preserve Bugzilla quips? [23:18:59] Where can I find them these days? [23:21:50] vvv: I'd guess they're on the read-only bugzilla but I might be wrong [23:22:43] vvv: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P110 [23:23:11] Betacommand: I found a work around, it seems that the former Admin had $wgEmailConfirmToEdit at true [23:23:15] https://old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/quips.cgi still works [23:23:49] Oh, awesome legoktm [23:24:01] Who was supposed to be writing the quiphs extension? [23:26:01] legoktm, marktraceur: thanks! [23:52:47] does some one exactly know how to install graphViz and the graphViz extension for mediawiki on windows in detail?