[02:25:00] <zitping>	 Hey there. Trying to setup v1.2.4.1 of MediaWiki, and I have the page showing at ~/mediawiki that states "LocalSettings.php not found. Please setup the wiki first." showing, but when I click that link that brings me to *.com/mediawiki/mw-config/index.php I get shown a blank page
[02:26:06] <aclonedsheep>	 did you download the LocalSettings.php during the setup wizard?
[02:26:53] <zitping>	 Lol, that could do it. The guide I used to set it up didn't have that part in it
[02:27:09] <zitping>	 I'll refer back to the install instructions on the mediawiki site and get back to ya
[02:28:45] <aclonedsheep>	 zitping, when i installed it I had to download the localsettings.php from the wizard and upload it to the server, so maybe you just missed that. good luck :b
[02:28:57] <zitping>	 Thanks, aclonedsheep !
[02:33:24] <zitping>	 OH LOOK AT THAT https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967302   A BUG ABOUT HOW CLICKING THE LINK SHOWS A BLANK PAGE ON REDHAT INSTALLS
[02:33:28] <zitping>	 K. Thanks :D
[02:39:44] <zitping>	 Once I ran this line: "chown apache.apache /var/www/html/mediawiki/mw-config/images" it fixed the issue. YAY
[03:54:02] <Untoldent>	 Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Scribunto. I'm getting an error saying that the lua file is not executable, but everything I see suggests it is.
[03:54:11] <Untoldent>	 I'm on CentOS running Apache.
[03:54:25] <jackmcbarn>	 Untoldent: is the filesystem mounted noexec?
[03:54:37] <jackmcbarn>	 also, try running the lua binary manual from the shell
[03:55:30] <Untoldent>	 jackmcbarn I don't know what that first thing means.
[03:55:42] <Untoldent>	 jackmcbarn (or, if I'm being honest, the second thing.)
[03:56:05] <jackmcbarn>	 do you know how to use the shell/terminal/command line at all?
[03:57:20] <Untoldent>	 jackmcbarn I'm very green. I know how to get around it, I'm learning how to chmod/chown things. I can see a directory listing.
[03:57:32] <jackmcbarn>	 what's the listing for the lua binary say?
[03:58:30] <Untoldent>	 jackmcbarn (uno momento)
[04:08:56] <Untoldent>	 -rwxr-xr-x 1 apache apache 195476 Feb 10 07:09 lua
[04:09:12] <Untoldent>	 jackmcbarn I've also tried assigning it to root.
[04:09:50] <jackmcbarn>	 Untoldent: type "mount" and look for the word noexec
[04:10:11] <jackmcbarn>	 and are you sure that that lua binary is the one that you're trying to execute?
[04:10:21] <jackmcbarn>	 if you have any scribunto configuration other than the one line to actually load it, remove it
[04:10:48] <Untoldent>	 I'm just double-checking that it's the correct one now ...
[04:13:13] <Untoldent>	 I have /dev/simfs on /tmp type simfs (rw,noexec,relatime)
[04:13:19] <Untoldent>	 and /dev/simfs on /var/tmp type simfs (rw,noexec,relatime)
[04:13:51] <Untoldent>	 aaaand 
[04:13:51] <Untoldent>	 [root@untoldentertainment lua5_1_5_linux_64_generic]# /dev/simfs on /tmp type simfs (rw,noexec,relatime)
[04:14:02] <Untoldent>	 which looks suspect to me. How about you?
[04:14:33] <Untoldent>	 (I just checked - that file at that path is indeed the correct one that's causing the hangup)
[04:14:46] <jackmcbarn>	 that's not the problem unless you installed mediawiki in /tmp
[04:14:52] <Untoldent>	 jackmcbarn Nope.
[04:14:57] <jackmcbarn>	 can you pastebin your LocalSettings.php?
[04:15:03] <Untoldent>	 yes - just a sec
[04:15:08] <Fiona>	 Don't paste anything private.
[04:15:28] <Untoldent>	 Fiona No worries. I'll remove Grandma's secret peach cobbler recipe.
[04:15:34] <Untoldent>	 Would hate for that to fall in the wrong hands.
[04:16:20] <Fiona>	 :-)
[04:17:23] <Untoldent>	 http://pastebin.com/jK2ujX1B
[04:18:26] <jackmcbarn>	 go into the directory with the lua binary and type "./lua"
[04:18:48] <Untoldent>	 Lua 5.1.5  Copyright (C) 1994-2012 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
[04:19:07] <jackmcbarn>	 ok, hit Ctrl+C
[04:19:08] <Untoldent>	 and I get a > prompt
[04:19:12] <jackmcbarn>	 the binary is definitely executable
[04:19:29] <Untoldent>	 ctrl+C pops me our of the > prompt and back to the CentOS prompt
[04:19:30] <jackmcbarn>	 does your php configuration allow executing programs
[04:19:31] <jackmcbarn>	 ?
[04:19:50] <Untoldent>	 I'm not sure ...? What kind of a security risk is that to open up?
[04:20:02] <Untoldent>	 This is one website I have of quite a few, and I'd hate to lose them.
[04:20:32] <jackmcbarn>	 unless you're letting other people run php on your server, it's really not a risk
[04:20:44] <jackmcbarn>	 i think it does allow it by default btw
[04:20:48] <Untoldent>	 OK. Where do I check that or make the change?
[04:20:53] <jackmcbarn>	 php.ini
[04:20:58] <jackmcbarn>	 where it is depends on your system
[04:21:01] <Untoldent>	 This is all on a MediaTemple (dv) server 
[04:21:18] <Untoldent>	 riiiight ... we were looking at this earlier today. Couldn't find a php.ini at this level ...
[04:21:24] <Untoldent>	 backed out to .htaccess ...
[04:21:33] <jackmcbarn>	 you might want to ask their support for help about it
[04:21:39] <jackmcbarn>	 everything i've seen indicates that it should work
[04:22:06] <Untoldent>	 So just call them up and ask them how to enable php to execute programs?
[04:22:38] <jackmcbarn>	 i think that's the problem
[04:22:49] <Untoldent>	 ok - thanks. Let me call them up, and I'll let you know what they say.
[04:22:55] <jackmcbarn>	 just tell them the error you get, and that we can't figure it out
[04:22:55] <jackmcbarn>	 ok
[04:23:07] <Untoldent>	 I only call them about twice a year, and they very begrudgingly help me. 
[04:23:12] <jackmcbarn>	 i probably won't be around after, but someone else here probably will be
[04:23:31] <Untoldent>	 hokay
[04:23:41] <Untoldent>	 thanks for your help so far
[08:59:35] <Richlv>	 after upgrading to mw 1.24 from 1.23 autodetection of SERVERNAME does not seem to work anymore, it returns ip address instead (worked before the upgrade). what could have caused that ?
[09:00:10] <Richlv>	 i don't see anything related in the release notes, the closest seems to be "The server's canonical hostname is available as $wgServerName" - but i don't think it should make SERVERNAME autodetection not to work ?
[11:32:11] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Richlv: Do you have $wgServer explicitly set?
[12:13:13] <Richlv>	 G_SabinoMullane, i do not
[12:36:33] <G_SabinoMullane>	 I think it's more possible Apache (or $webserver) is giving that. Try setting $wgServer manually so you don't have to depend on possibly faulty autodetection
[12:36:45] <G_SabinoMullane>	 (more possible than a 1.24 change that is)
[12:39:30] <The_Photographer>	 where I could see all iso languages of Wikipedias sites?
[12:59:16] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Try #wikipedia
[13:20:27] <Richlv>	 G_SabinoMullane, hmm, i'll dig in apache then :)
[13:28:00] <The_Photographer>	 བོད་ཡིག
[13:31:21] <G_SabinoMullane>	 "To add files, drag and drop them into the comment text area." Really, Phabricator?!? No standard upload form? :(
[13:36:42] <MatmaRex>	 G_SabinoMullane: there's a bug for that
[13:37:05] <MatmaRex>	 G_SabinoMullane: there is a regular upload form, but separate from task commenting/filing, so somewhat inconvenient
[13:37:35] <MatmaRex>	 G_SabinoMullane: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload/ after you upload a file, you can link to it from a task
[13:38:37] <MatmaRex>	 G_SabinoMullane: the bug about it is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165 and might even get resolved at some point :)
[13:45:24] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Thanks
[14:05:14] <dominos>	 Hi. I was looking Gsoc Ideas page and couldn't find skills required for individual projects. Can someone give tell me about that or a link ?
[15:07:20] <tonythomas>	 dominos: it varies according to projects though. basics of php would be a general requirement I guess - you would learn more in the due course. try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[15:14:23] <mc_fail>	 hi
[15:14:55] <mc_fail>	 i'm trying to perform a ssl-authentification in mediawiki and i have a error " Cannot access protected property LoginForm::$mRemember "
[15:15:10] <mc_fail>	 what does it mean?
[15:54:24] <dominos>	 tonythomas: Thanks. I don't know Python. Will that be part of a significant number of projects?
[15:55:20] <aclonedsheep>	 just learn python, its swell
[15:57:17] <marktraceur>	 dominos: Python isn't used in a lot of our projects, but some
[15:58:25] <dominos>	 Ok. Thanks to both. I will try to learn some basics of Python
[16:06:21] <aclonedsheep>	 does anyone else use mediawiki for their school notes?
[16:09:31] <marktraceur>	 aclonedsheep: I think I tried to once
[16:09:36] <marktraceur>	 I'm not sure it went very well
[16:09:42] <marktraceur>	 But I lacked discipline in school
[16:11:10] <aclonedsheep>	 i've been experimenting with it, seems to be a pretty great option so far
[16:12:04] <aclonedsheep>	 i wrote a python script that creates some basic mediawiki articles based on PDF highlighting, so I Can easily outline my lecture slides into MW. I'm excited to see what i can do with semantic
[16:12:27] <aclonedsheep>	 marktraceur, the lack of discipline is part of why im wasting time studying in alternate ways and not just time-proven methods, heh. 
[16:13:57] <marktraceur>	 Indeed.
[16:14:59] <codezee>	 but who knows, only when we walk on alternate paths that something new gets discovered :)
[16:15:05] <aclonedsheep>	 Especially, spending times on skins and bootstrap features instead of improving /studying the content. heh , oh well. So far I like it more than using oneNote
[16:15:27] <aclonedsheep>	 codezee, exactly :)
[17:08:49] <aclonedsheep>	 I'm using the bootstrap skin that moves TOC to a contents drop down in the header, which is really nice except on long pages when I have to scroll all the way back up to it. Is there anyway to move it to the subnav bar that is fixed?
[17:45:29] <Nemo_bis>	 darkprince: did you find ideas for GSOC?
[17:47:01] <EdePopede>	 aclonedsheep: iirc there is a css property now that keeps a block inline for scrolling until it reaches top of viewport or similar, so that it changes to position:fixed then. if that would help.
[17:53:21] <DrSlony>	 Hi, I need to make a table calculate some values automatically based on input i give it, how do I do that? Link to docs would be best
[17:53:40] <aclonedsheep>	 EdePopede, thanks. been playing with solutions like that.
[17:54:27] <darkprince>	 Nemo_bis: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/A.GSkWKThKTT/#R I found this, some of which I found interesting :)
[17:54:36] <DrSlony>	 aww https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/calculation_in_tables
[17:57:51] <Nemo_bis>	 darkprince: ok 
[17:58:03] <darkprince>	 What about you ? 
[17:58:09] <darkprince>	 What have you been upto?
[17:58:28] <Nemo_bis>	 darkprince: my suggestion is to choose one where you find a microtask/bug you can file a patch against
[17:58:50] <Nemo_bis>	 So that you get some confidence with the repository before committing to a huge project
[17:59:23] <Nemo_bis>	 Usual stuff. Spy https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Nemo_bis/ if you want :)
[17:59:37] <darkprince>	 Alright :) I understand. Have you been into any of the projects that I showed you in the link?
[17:59:44] <darkprince>	 Sure. I'll have a look. Thanks :)
[18:00:04] <wmat>	 is there a 'best' way to redirect wiki pages to external pages? I'd rather not use .htaccess 301 redirects
[18:01:25] <wmat>	 maybe some kind of conditional JS in common.js?
[18:55:21] <darkprince>	 Nemo_bis: you there?
[18:58:00] <T13|inClass>	 It's not specified in docs or on RL/Dm when it was added
[18:58:17] <T13|inClass>	 Was mw.api() available in MW1.19.23?
[18:58:55] <MatmaRex>	 T13|inClass: let's see
[18:59:24] <T13|inClass>	 When was it added I guess is my question.
[19:01:19] <MatmaRex>	 T13|inClass: a long, long time ago, it already existed in 2011
[19:01:46] <MatmaRex>	 so earlier than 1.19
[19:02:14] <MatmaRex>	 T13|inClass: if something is documented on the RL pages on mediawiki.org, it has probably existed for a very long time, since i don't think people are actively updating that
[19:04:01] <T13|inClass>	 There are someon that page that say addedin 1.23 for example. :)
[19:16:42] <T13|inClass>	 MatmaRex: I tried the mw.api snippet on [[API:Email]] and MW1.19.23 throws back a 'TypeError: mw.Api is not a constructor'
[19:17:25] <T13|inClass>	 How would I look-up what version I would need to upgrade to for it to work?
[19:17:43] <MatmaRex>	 T13|inClass: are you sure it's loaded? mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api', function(){ /* your code here */ })
[19:22:12] <T13|inClass>	 Now it's just returning undefined but never actually querying the API. I'm not sure why it's not loaded by default like it is on MWwiki and enwp.
[19:34:32] <T13|inClass>	 MatmaRex: I see. Well, it's working now but returns an error that 'opt is not defined' on L75-94 of mediawiki.api.js. I'll figure it out though.
[19:38:34] <klync>	 I installed the drafts extension but the button just doesn't show up. no errors on the page or in the log Special:Version shows it's installed; table is visible in the db ... mediawiki-1.24.1, Drafts 0.3.0. any ideas?
[19:40:29] <klync>	 if I look at the source i see it get passed as an arg to a js function called mw.loader.load()
[19:41:50] <klync>	 fwiw, i'm on a mac - tried it in both safari and ffx
[21:51:10] <Nemo_bis>	 Was 1.25wmf17 already branched?
[21:51:22] <marktraceur>	 Looks like it
[21:51:27] <marktraceur>	 Given -operations
[21:52:14] <Nemo_bis>	 Seems so
[21:52:16] <Nemo_bis>	 Yep
[21:52:52] <Nemo_bis>	 Ah, just two minutes ago, the patch I care about went in just in time
[21:58:11] <marktraceur>	 Yay!
[21:58:23] <marktraceur>	 Well, maybe. The branch may have happened sooner.
[21:58:54] <marktraceur>	 Nemo_bis: http://git.wikimedia.org/log/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/refs%2Fheads%2Fwmf%2F1.25wmf17
[22:02:39] <Nemo_bis>	 Yep, in fact 2 hours too early
[22:02:42] <Nemo_bis>	 Too bad :)