[00:08:32] <k-man>	 whats that tool you have to run with mediawiki so you get the visual editor working?
[00:13:41] <rillke1>	 !parsoid
[00:13:41] <wm-bot>	 Parsoid is a bi-directional wikitext parser and runtime. Converts back and forth between MediaWiki wikitext and HTML/XML DOM with RDFa. Backend for the VisualEditor (see !visualeditor). See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid and #mediawiki-parsoid channel.
[00:14:00] <rillke1>	 k-man ^^
[00:14:02] <k-man>	 ah thanks rillke1 
[00:14:08] <k-man>	 couldn't think of the name
[00:15:58] <rillke1>	 Anyone from the language engineering team around?
[00:16:29] <rillke1>	 What will I have to change so the fallback system is used as described in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Language#Fallback_languages
[00:16:55] <rillke1>	 For example, there is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer
[00:17:45] <rillke1>	 but if users choose a language in that this message does not exist, it displays just nothing instead of MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer 
[00:18:33] <rillke1>	 Nemo_bis, still around?
[00:23:15] <legoktm>	 rillke1: language team is usually in #mediawiki-i18n
[00:23:50] <rillke1>	 thx _legoktm
[00:25:29] <hectormr1>	 hi to all here
[00:25:50] <rillke1>	 hi hectormr1
[00:27:21] <k-man>	 can you just do a git pull if you used git to get mw?
[00:27:26] <hectormr1>	 i have 2 systems. 1 setup proxy was very good. the other only 1 of the 3 site comes up green. the other 2 go red. can anyone help??
[00:29:03] <rillke1>	 k-man - for Parsoid?
[00:29:31] <k-man>	 rillke1, well... i was asking for mw, but i'll get to parsoid in a minute too
[00:29:40] <k-man>	 i don't recall how i installed parsoidd
[00:31:05] <rillke1>	 k-man, to update mw to the latest unstable alpha dev version, one could use "git pull" but git pull sometimes does more than one wants
[00:31:38] <k-man>	 rillke1, well, i took a  backup.... so here goes
[00:32:41] <rillke1>	 hectormr1, I guess you'll have to be more specific ... or ask your question in a dedicated forum for server administration and networking
[00:37:51] <hectormr1>	 rillkel. i'm useing utorrent 1.8.2 on sys 1. set socks 5 & btguard.com also check all boes after. this sys works great. only diff on sys 2 is utorrent 3.2.2 & this 1 has 335 green & 66% red
[00:39:13] <k-man>	 how do i install PSR-3 logger?
[00:42:25] <legoktm>	 k-man: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Fetch_external_libraries
[00:42:33] <rillke1>	 k-man, lots of extensions now use composer to pull in dependencies
[00:44:22] <k-man>	 its not clear to me how to use composer to do that
[00:44:46] <hectormr1>	 rillkel do u think u can help me??
[00:45:13] <rillke1>	 hectormr1, no sorry, I have no clue about utorrent
[00:45:14] <k-man>	 rillke1, ah i see, composer is like an installer
[00:45:47] <rillke1>	 k-man, yeah an installer you have to install :P
[00:46:01] <rillke1>	 first PHP then composer then mediawiki
[00:46:04] <k-man>	 rillke1, yeah, i installed it-  got that far :)
[00:46:50] * rillke1 wonders how long it takes until node.js and npm are involved, too
[00:47:06] <k-man>	 hehe
[00:47:25] <rillke1>	 well, composer at least installs without admin privileges
[00:47:51] <k-man>	 its installing a whole bunch
[00:48:00] <James_F>	 rillke1: For VE they somewhat are. :-)
[00:48:43] <rillke1>	 And for ooJS UI
[00:49:09] <James_F>	 Well, yeah, but OOjs UI is installed via git as far as anyone other than me is concerned.
[00:49:20] <James_F>	 It just magically arrives when you grab MediaWiki.
[00:49:23] <k-man>	 i got this error when i ran the update: http://sprunge.us/UPNc
[00:49:58] <rillke1>	 k-man, your MySQL user account can't delete tables?
[00:50:08] <k-man>	 rillke1, maybe...
[00:50:08] <rillke1>	 (permission issue?)
[00:52:36] <k-man>	 delete is in the grants
[00:52:43] <k-man>	 oh wait...
[00:53:00] <k-man>	 is it drop rather than delete
[00:53:56] <rillke1>	 James_F, you made me curious - what does one need node for (except parsoid)?
[00:55:05] <k-man>	 rillke1, should i re-run the update? 
[00:55:40] <rillke1>	 in theory it should not damage anything; do you have a DB backup?
[00:55:56] <k-man>	 i do have a backup
[00:55:56] <James_F>	 rillke1: "Just" Parsoid, but that's enough.
[00:55:59] <rillke1>	 * should not damage anything to re-run
[00:56:30] <rillke1>	 k-man, so just re-run it
[00:57:24] <k-man>	 rillke1, i did, it seems to have worked, and no error now that i added the drop permission
[00:58:01] <rillke1>	 great :)
[00:59:02] <k-man>	 thank you for your guidance rillke1 
[00:59:43] <k-man>	 right now how do I update parsoid?
[00:59:59] <rillke1>	 no point, glad it worked 
[01:00:57] <k-man>	 no point updating it?
[01:10:59] <k-man>	 ah well now I have npm dependency problems
[01:23:57] <Kunda>	 how do I change the link for 'Help with logging in' on http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Special:UserLogin ?
[01:31:11] <Kunda>	 anyone ?
[01:35:48] <Deskana>	 Kunda: Change this: http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/MediaWiki:Helplogin-url
[01:36:05] <Kunda>	 thanks!
[01:36:23] <Deskana>	 Kunda: For the record, to answer your question I went here and did a ctrl-f for the message: http://wiki.scribus.net/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAllMessages&prefix=&filter=all&lang=en&limit=5000
[01:36:46] <Deskana>	 Kunda: So if you ever have a similar question again, your answer will be in that page. :-)
[01:37:15] <Kunda>	 holy sheesh....teach a man to fish, why don't you?!
[01:37:18] <Kunda>	 :)
[01:37:25] <Kunda>	 thanks Deskana :)
[01:37:43] <Deskana>	 Kunda: Happy to help.
[02:34:36] <cenrec>	 hello guys i am trying to setup mediawiki for our research department at uni with the math extension but i can't get the plugin to work even though it shows up on special/version. could someone take a look for me? or help me through configuration?
[02:43:40] <cenrec>	 has anyone else had problems installing the Math extensions? (Deb Wheezy)
[02:45:10] <k-man>	 so when i click the visual edit button, nothing seems to happen in my mediawiki instance
[02:47:58] <unicodesnowman>	 k-man, check developer console for errors?
[02:49:42] <k-man>	 nope, nothing in there
[03:02:49] <cenrec>	 i installed on debian mediawiki, mediawiki-math in full but in the extensions/Math folder there is no extensions/Math/math folder  seems its missing.
[03:11:02] <TashaSmitty>	 Hello
[03:11:37] <TashaSmitty>	 Anyone there
[03:12:32] <k-man>	 TashaSmitty, ask your question
[03:13:19] <TashaSmitty>	 Why is the page for actor Tavares Jamal Cherry have a deletion notice
[03:13:36] <TashaSmitty>	 What can we do to keep it
[03:13:42] <cenrec>	 i am trying to make all the extensions manually
[03:13:46] <k-man>	 oh now parsoid is working
[03:14:10] <k-man>	 not quite sure wich change i made actually fixed it
[03:14:33] <cenrec>	 hey k-man. if you have a second would like to pick your brains
[03:20:49] <TashaSmitty>	 Hello
[03:21:02] <TashaSmitty>	 hOW CAN WE STOP THIS DELETION TALK
[03:22:46] <k-man>	 cenrec, because you think i have a clue?
[03:22:57] <cenrec>	 ha yes ;-) u sound like
[03:23:14] <k-man>	 cenrec, ask away - just I'm a novice
[03:23:25] <cenrec>	 i installed all the packages on debian. but i think it didnt install it properly. i am going the manual way using tar ballz now
[03:23:32] <cenrec>	 and using 'make'
[03:23:52] <k-man>	 TashaSmitty, i suspect this channel is more to do with the software that Wikipedia runs rather than the running of wikipedia
[03:24:04] <k-man>	 cenrec, ok
[03:24:06] <cenrec>	 going to be offline for a while now. lunch. then i am back
[03:24:13] <TashaSmitty>	 OK
[03:24:42] <k-man>	 TashaSmitty, and I don't know where the appropriate place to discuss that would be sorry
[03:24:48] <k-man>	 but others here might
[03:34:00] <k-man>	 after updating to 1.25alpha, my images seem to be missing
[04:10:00] <k-man>	 is the upload wizard still supposed to work in mw?
[05:11:21] <marktraceur>	 k-man: Are you having trouble with it?
[05:11:38] <k-man>	 yes
[05:11:55] <k-man>	 it seems to produce an exception in the browser, both in firefox and chrome
[05:12:04] <k-man>	 the lastest version downloaded from git
[05:12:38] <marktraceur>	 k-man: At what point in the process? With what kind of file? Vhat kind of exception?
[05:13:25] <k-man>	 when i press the "upload button" it gets the exception and doesn't go further
[05:13:55] <k-man>	 marktraceur, if this is of interest and not just my stupidly doing it wrong, i can report it 
[05:13:56] <marktraceur>	 k-man: What is the exception exactly?
[05:14:11] <k-man>	 let me re-enable it and see
[05:15:33] <k-man>	 oh actually the error happens on page load. 
[05:15:53] <marktraceur>	 k-man: What is the exception exactly?
[05:16:23] <k-man>	 sorry just working out the best way to paste it
[05:16:30] <k-man>	 TypeError: Cannot read property 'mozilla' of undefined 
[05:16:38] <k-man>	 do you want more than that?
[05:16:54] <k-man>	 TypeError: Cannot read property 'mozilla' of undefined {stack: (...), message: "Cannot read property 'mozilla' of undefined"}
[05:18:10] <marktraceur>	 Odd. k-man can you load the page with debug=true and find out where the error is being fired? Then you should file a bug, I'm going to bed
[05:18:34] <k-man>	 ok - is that a js thing?
[05:19:53] <marktraceur>	 It's a query string parameter
[05:20:39] <marktraceur>	 So if your site is exampl.com, use example.com/wiki/Special:UploadWizard?debug=true
[05:20:59] <marktraceur>	 Argh phone IRC is not trivial.
[05:21:15] <k-man>	 yep, understood
[05:21:16] <marktraceur>	 But you get the drift
[05:21:24] <marktraceur>	 'night
[05:34:20] <k-man>	 i don't get any debug info in firefox except for the first line of the exception
[05:36:09] <k-man>	 marktraceur, created T89330
[06:12:37] <legoktm>	 !fast
[06:12:37] <wm-bot>	 <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast> <http://mituzas.lt/2007/01/26/mediawiki-performance-tuning/>
[07:17:07] <Nemo_bis>	 Nikerabbit: https://awgn.github.io/cgrep/ "nearly as fast as GNU grep, up to 6x times faster than ack." bullshit warning?
[07:20:31] <Nikerabbit>	 Nemo_bis: try it
[07:22:06] <Nemo_bis>	 yeah, gotta compile
[07:29:30] <Nemo_bis>	 hmpf, networking issues with haskell.org
[07:35:16] <Nemo_bis>	 looks like 15 years did not change things :) http://code.haskell.org/~dons/haskell-1990-2000/msg06755.html
[07:37:46] <Nemo_bis>	 "Oops… Trac detected an internal error:  OperationalError: disk I/O error"
[08:32:42] <ori>	 <Nemo_bis> looks like 15 years did not change things :)
[08:32:46] <ori>	 immutability!
[12:11:20] <Neutrix>	 Hello! Question: I installed Mediawiki on our webhost (throught their installation service), and added the ConfirmAccount Extention. Now when I Request a new account, I do not get an email notification at the email address of my new user. How can I find what is going wrong?
[12:12:32] <Neutrix>	 I found something about setting SMTP settings, but then packages have to be installed and I can't do that (web hoster should do it?) How can I find out what the php mail() function is doing? Should this be working out of the box?
[12:18:02] <Vulpix>	 Neutrix: for mail functions on MediaWiki to work, you need to install some PEAR packages. However PEAR can be installed in your own space in the shared host. Look at this instructions http://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.shared.php
[12:21:38] <Vulpix>	 there's another tutorial here http://www.geeksengine.com/article/install-pear-on-shared-web-host.html
[12:22:04] <Neutrix>	 Thanks Vulpix, I'll have a look at those. Any place I can find logs of what MediaWiki is doing?
[12:22:26] <Vulpix>	 !debug | Neutrix 
[12:22:26] <wm-bot>	 Neutrix: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[12:22:30] <Neutrix>	 ....still trying to figure out whether mail doesn't work at all, or is just veeeery slow
[12:22:39] <Neutrix>	 THANKS!
[12:23:08] * Neutrix is making bookmarks
[12:26:59] <romit>	 I need help with the installation of wikimedia on my system
[12:27:37] <Vulpix>	 romit: I think you mean MediaWiki, not Wikimedia
[12:28:25] <romit>	 Vulpix, yes i mean MediaWiki
[12:29:12] <Vulpix>	 romit: you could start by detailing your problem
[12:29:54] <romit>	 Vulpix, i followed the instructions given on website and cloned the MediaWiki core from github
[12:30:08] <romit>	 Vulpix, and got this after running it http://postimg.org/image/wa6xl5ldf/
[12:31:03] <unicodesnowman>	 romit, your PHP environment is very messed up.
[12:31:08] <Vulpix>	 looks like PHP can't write to the session folder. Did you check permissions?
[12:33:06] <cenrec>	 hi i am back. i asked earlier for help with mediawiki & math installation on debian wheezy. i installed using apt-get mediawiki, mediawiki-math but it seems the extension/Math/math folder for texvc is missing. so now i am trying to install it manually. has anyone had this experience before?
[12:33:29] <romit>	 Vulpix, What kind of permissions do i need to look for
[12:34:44] <Vulpix>	 romit: the user running php (apache, www-run... it largely depends on the system where it's installed) needs write permissions on that folder
[12:35:09] <tonythomas>	 cenrec: I would recommend www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial and not apt-get install mediawiki if you are planning to hack and contribute 
[12:36:26] <romit>	 Vulpix, let me check permissions
[12:36:38] <cenrec>	 i am trying to install mediawiki with the LaTeX extension for a mathematical institute. so any help would be very appreciated.
[12:37:41] <tonythomas>	 cenrec: in that case, you are not planning to hack it. did you try cloning the math extension to extensions/
[12:39:02] <romit>	 Vulpix, i changed the permissions also
[12:39:12] <romit>	 Vulpix, but still it shows same error
[12:39:43] <Vulpix>	 romit: try setting permissions to "777" and see if that works
[12:39:50] <romit>	 unicodesnowman, in what way  my php environment is messed up
[12:40:00] <romit>	 unicodesnowman, can you help setting it up please
[12:40:19] <romit>	 Vulpix, i tried 777 only
[12:40:55] <tonythomas>	 I think you will need to go back till htdocs/ and give $  sudo chown -R www-data:www-data core/ 
[12:41:09] <tonythomas>	 if www-data is your apache user (  debian ) 
[12:43:36] <romit>	 tonythomas, i tried this also
[12:45:23] <tonythomas>	 romit: did you ssh/https clone mediawiki to htdocs/ ?
[12:45:47] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 !filepermissions | romit
[12:45:47] <wm-bot>	 romit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Check_directory_security
[12:46:00] <romit>	 tonythomas, i cloned it to my /home folder and then i moved it to /opt/lampp/htdocs folder
[12:46:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 cenrec: debian/ubuntu packages for mediawiki work in odd and wonderful ways. i'm not sure anyone here can hel you with that.
[12:47:21] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 cenrec: i recommend installing everything manually. the way linux packages work doesn#t really fit with how web applications work.
[12:48:30] <tonythomas>	 romit: okey. hope everything was copied well. anyway - can you go to core/includes/templates/ and paste the output of ls -l 
[12:48:43] <tonythomas>	 just to make sure that 777 was applied recursively  
[12:49:09] <cenrec>	 thanks Daniel. i think there is a bug with combinations of ocaml and binutils. thats difficult to weed out. i am trying to install manually now. that just means expanding the Math folder in the extensions folder and compiling right? have you done it this way or do you know a website with very detailed step by step procedures?
[12:49:39] <tonythomas>	 cenrec: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math 
[12:49:49] <romit>	 tonythomas, here is the output
[12:49:53] <romit>	 tonythomas, romit@romit-Inspiron-3520:/opt/lampp/htdocs/core/includes/templates$ ls -l
[12:49:53] <romit>	 total 24
[12:49:53] <romit>	 -rwxrwxrwx 1 romit romit  2958 Feb 12 17:10 NoLocalSettings.php
[12:49:54] <romit>	 -rwxrwxrwx 1 romit romit 10556 Feb 12 17:10 Usercreate.php
[12:49:54] <romit>	 -rwxrwxrwx 1 romit romit  6992 Feb 12 17:10 Userlogin.php
[12:50:01] <tonythomas>	 romit: always dpaste.de :) 
[12:50:35] <tonythomas>	 anyway - looks like things have 777 permissions alright - but the $ chmod -R www-data:www-data core/* was not applied correctly 
[12:51:11] <tonythomas>	 can you see what is your apache user ( maybe check in /etc/passwd or someother way ) ?
[12:54:34] <Vulpix>	 romit: the path having problems with permissions is /opt/lampp/temp/
[12:55:08] <Vulpix>	 this is the path that you should check for permissions
[12:56:39] <romit>	 tonythomas, i am not able to find it
[12:57:01] <tonythomas>	 romit: the apache user ?
[12:57:32] <romit>	 tonythomas, yes
[12:58:00] <romit>	 tonythomas, Vulpix , thanks, its working now
[12:58:16] <tonythomas>	 Vulpix: right. I mised it 
[12:59:28] <romit>	 Vulpix, now its asking for database setup
[13:00:02] <romit>	 Vulpix, what values should i put in those fields such as host, username, password
[13:03:03] <romit>	 Vulpix, 
[13:04:46] <tonythomas>	 romit: you should be knowing that one, or check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script#Using_the_config_script 
[13:10:43] <romit>	 tonythomas, DB connection error: No such file or directory (localhost:/tmp/mysocketfile)
[13:10:50] <romit>	 tonythomas, this is what it shows
[13:11:37] <tonythomas>	 romit: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-find-out-if-mysql-is-running-on-linux/
[13:12:30] <romit>	 tonythomas, it is working
[13:13:38] <tonythomas>	 romit: you just need to give Database host : localhost
[13:14:06] <romit>	 tonythomas, do i need to give localhost/phpmyadmin
[13:14:43] <tonythomas>	 romit: nope. btw. you should be reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhpMyAdmin to get clear idea on what phpmyadmin is 
[13:17:07] <romit>	 tonythomas, so i just need to give localhost
[13:17:56] <tonythomas>	 romit: I  guess ;) 
[13:18:24] <romit>	 tonythomas, i tried that too but it still gives DB connection error: no such file or directory
[13:20:30] <tonythomas>	 romit: same error message this time ? paste it ?
[13:21:15] <romit>	 tonythomas, DB connection error: No such file or directory (localhost).
[13:21:15] <romit>	 Check the host, username and password and try again.
[13:22:09] <cenrec>	 i am doing a manual install. fingers crossed
[13:22:28] <cenrec>	 did everything from scratch. downloaded mediawiki tarball and placed into www folder
[13:22:43] <cenrec>	 raspberry pi!
[13:23:09] <tonythomas>	 romit: can you do $ telnet localhost mysql 
[13:23:12] <tonythomas>	 and paste output ?
[13:23:33] <cenrec>	 Debian Wheezy 7.8
[13:23:39] <cenrec>	 anyone using this?
[13:23:41] <romit>	 tonythomas, it worked
[13:25:12] <romit>	 tonythomas, using 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost worked
[13:25:28] <tonythomas>	 romit: nice ! 
[13:25:52] <romit>	 tonythomas, can you give me some tickets to work on
[13:26:00] <Vulpix>	 mysql driver connect through socket if using localhost, and through TCP if using an IP
[13:26:52] <tonythomas>	 Vulpix: strange that localhost didnt work though. telnet worked. hmm 
[13:27:24] <tonythomas>	 romit: I think you should be checking in phabricator with an easy tag. 
[13:28:04] <romit>	 tonythomas, thanks :0
[13:28:29] <tonythomas>	 :) 
[13:28:35] <Vulpix>	 tonythomas: because mysql server was probably configured to use only TCP and not sockets, or the socket is in a non-standard location
[13:29:09] <tonythomas>	 Vulpix: okey. had never met that one though 
[13:30:15] <Vulpix>	 I documented that in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBserver after problems encountered by some people in support desk 
[13:31:02] <rillke>	 Can a native English speaker help me? What is the meaning of "Gets the current offset in fromt the stashedupload table"?
[13:31:06] <tonythomas>	 great ! 
[13:32:26] * rillke is assuming it's a typo and should be something like "... from the ..."
[14:21:20] <cenrec>	 make: ocamlopt: Command not found
[14:21:28] <cenrec>	 anyone know how to fix this?
[14:21:41] <cusion>	 hi,there! does anyone know the difference between wikipedia data dumps enwiki-latest-pages-articles-multistream.xml.bz2 and enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml.bz2? I got stucked with an open source code which calls for the latter one, but I was too lazy to download another super large file while I already had the other one. 
[14:27:51] <MC8>	 cenrec: install ocaml, but it's not really mediawiki related :)
[14:40:18] <cenrec>	 i installed Math extension and MathJax but the TeX forumla doesnt get rendered and has $ signs left and right.
[14:40:44] <cenrec>	 anyone know whats going on?
[15:14:46] <sasan>	 hello
[15:14:50] <sasan>	 please see this wii
[15:14:53] <sasan>	 wiki
[15:15:02] <sasan>	 hdlwiki.com
[15:15:07] <sasan>	 and see my wiki
[15:15:12] <sasan>	 wiki.parsintelligent.com
[15:15:24] <sasan>	 i want to change the theme of my wiki same with hdlwiki.com
[15:15:29] <sasan>	 could anybody help me?
[15:18:55] <sasan>	 <Vilpix> are you in here?
[15:21:27] <sasan>	 nobody can answer me??
[15:25:14] <cenrec>	  ocamlopt: Command not found
[15:27:46] <sasan>	 حمثشسث اثمح
[15:27:51] <sasan>	 please help
[15:37:19] <sasan>	 please help
[15:46:16] <marktraceur>	 sasan: Patience!
[15:47:51] <marktraceur>	 sasan: Looks like they modified vector, which probably means it's their own private skin
[15:47:58] <marktraceur>	 I'm guessing you'd need to do the work yourself
[15:51:25] <sasan>	  <marktraceur> how could i do it ?
[15:51:47] <sasan>	 i can access hdlwiki, let me know where i can fin the changes
[15:51:49] <sasan>	 ?
[15:53:41] <sasan>	 my wiki is also vector
[15:53:56] <sasan>	 let me what i shold change to turn it to hdlwiki theme
[15:53:56] <sasan>	 ?
[15:54:39] <marktraceur>	 sasan: Look for [[MediaWiki:common.css]]
[15:54:46] <marktraceur>	 Also vector.css
[15:56:22] <sasan>	  <marktraceur> nothing in common.css
[15:56:27] <sasan>	 and vector.css
[15:56:39] <sasan>	 vector.css in not found
[15:56:57] <marktraceur>	 sasan: [[MediaWiki:vector.css]]
[15:57:41] <sasan>	 nothng
[15:57:46] <sasan>	 the page has nothing
[15:57:53] <marktraceur>	 OK, well, they probably did something idiotic like edit the vector files directly
[15:58:11] <sasan>	 how could i found?
[15:58:14] <marktraceur>	 So you need to get access to their files somehow, or maybe use debug=true to load the originals
[15:58:27] <marktraceur>	 Just ask one of their sysadmins what they did to get the theme working
[15:59:21] <sasan>	 no other way?
[15:59:41] <marktraceur>	 Probably not
[15:59:47] <marktraceur>	 Why? Is that not an option?
[16:03:40] <cenrec>	 in which package is ocamlopt contained?
[16:16:57] <MC8>	 cenrec: do apt-cache search ocamlopt
[18:31:17] <wmat>	 recently installed master branch from the command line and uploads are failing with this error:  Fatal error: Cannot use object of type LocalRepo as array in /var/www/.../includes/filerepo/FileRepo.php on line 1285
[18:31:32] <wmat>	 never seen that one before
[18:31:46] <wmat>	 do I need to set $wgLocalFileRepo?
[18:38:10] <rillke>	 i think marktraceur saw the same error
[18:39:46] <rillke>	 wmat: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89296
[18:41:38] <alpha_one_x86>	 Hello, to include a page part into some page, without variable, template too?
[18:42:53] <rillke>	 alpha_one_x86, I understood you want to transclude a page part. What is the second part? Can you rephrase that?
[18:43:19] <marktraceur>	 I thought we fixed it.
[18:43:39] <marktraceur>	 wmat: Can you try resetting to master again to be sure?
[18:43:39] <alpha_one_x86>	 http://catchchallenger.first-world.info/official-server/datapack-explorer.html -> my automatic generated content
[18:44:20] <alpha_one_x86>	 http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page -> my target
[18:44:31] <alpha_one_x86>	 http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Furfrou_(Pok%C3%A9mon) -> where the stat is automatic generated content
[18:44:34] <ankita_>	 [3281200c] /wiki/Special:ViewByLanguage MWException from line 539 of /vagrant/mediawiki/includes/htmlform/HTMLForm.php: HTMLForm: no submit callback provided. Use setSubmitCallback() to set one.
[18:44:53] <ankita_>	 even when i have  a callback function defined
[18:45:27] <ankita_>	 This is the error i get when i click submit on my form button, what might be missing?
[18:46:29] <alpha_one_x86>	 Then: Template is adapted to this?
[18:49:44] <rillke>	 ankita_, you wrote an extension or the like?
[18:51:48] <ankita_>	 rillke: yes, working on one as part of my OPW intern project
[18:52:58] <rillke>	 alpha_one_x86, there is a bunch of extensions for data extraction from external pages: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Data_extraction_extensions
[18:56:39] <ankita_>	 rillke: any idea what may be wrong here?
[18:57:16] <rillke>	 ankita_, I guess you have mentors so ping them, or point us to some code...
[18:57:53] <ankita_>	 i am maintaining the code here https://github.com/ankitashukla/mediawiki-spelling-dictionary/
[18:58:40] <ankita_>	 rillke: the file which gives the error is : https://github.com/ankitashukla/mediawiki-spelling-dictionary/blob/master/specials/SpecialViewByLanguage.php
[19:17:21] <rillke>	 ankita_, where is the Class SpecialSpellingDictionaryViewByLanguage defined? Plus is it loaded in the moment the callback is attempted to be executed?
[19:19:48] <rillke>	 Also note that autoloading classes requires that the class is in a file with that name, IIRC
[19:38:13] <wmat>	 marktraceur: doing a git pull now
[19:40:06] <wmat>	 marktraceur: I got Error: your composer.lock file is not up to date, run "composer update" to install newer dependencies
[19:40:21] <wmat>	 marktraceur: but I did not go the composer route, nor ever intended to
[19:40:22] <marktraceur>	 So...do that
[19:40:25] <marktraceur>	 Well
[19:40:32] <marktraceur>	 That's going to make things very hard for you
[19:40:43] <wmat>	 why?
[19:40:52] <wmat>	 so I HAVE to use composer now?
[19:41:04] <marktraceur>	 Because MediaWiki *is* going the composer route as far as I know
[19:41:07] <marktraceur>	 !composer
[19:41:07] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !boostrap404, 
[19:41:12] <marktraceur>	 Hm, nope
[19:41:23] <marktraceur>	 Not sure who to ask about that. legoktm?
[19:41:35] <wmat>	 the "tracking mediawiki by git" should be updated then
[19:41:44] <wmat>	 page, thst is
[19:41:48] <wmat>	 ugh
[19:41:50] <wmat>	 fat fingers
[19:41:51] <legoktm>	 wmat: you can clone the mediawiki/vendor repo if you don't want to use composer
[19:42:00] <legoktm>	 wmat: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Fetch_external_libraries
[19:42:02] <wmat>	 legoktm: i did that at install
[19:42:11] <legoktm>	 ok, then git pull on that repo?
[19:42:56] <wmat>	 does that still require an update.php run?
[19:43:37] <legoktm>	 it shouldn't
[19:44:33] <wmat>	 nice, it works now!
[19:44:41] <wmat>	 I love you guys ;)
[19:44:50] <legoktm>	 !libraries is Starting with 1.25, MediaWiki core's git repository no longer contains certain external libraries, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Fetch_external_libraries for how to get them
[19:44:50] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[19:45:04] <legoktm>	 wmat: :)
[19:45:49] <legoktm>	 !composer is Composer is a dependency manager for PHP. MediaWiki uses it to include certain external libraries. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer for more details.
[19:45:49] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[19:46:00] <legoktm>	 marktraceur: ^ 
[19:46:07] <marktraceur>	 ty legoktm :)
[19:46:16] <legoktm>	 I need to finish writing [[mw:Composer]] >.>
[19:47:38] <marktraceur>	 Yes. Yes you do.
[20:14:06] <nobody44>	 hello. I setup a small (really small) LDAP using openldap in a private VPN. Mainly I want to learn about LDAP , so this is not really security relevant, since it is in a VPN anyway. So I installed the LDAP extension and it works fine actually
[20:14:37] <nobody44>	 all I want now is to setup a "login filter", that requires the user to be in a certain group
[20:15:26] <wmat>	 legoktm: yeah, i've been aware of the libs thing for a bit
[20:15:26] <nobody44>	 the user's dn is cn=test,ou=users,dc=test,dc=vpn, and the group that the user is required to be a member of, is cn=wiki,ou=groups,dc=test,dc=vpn
[20:15:59] <wmat>	 legoktm: i've traditionally been a git tracker guy, but would you recommend i move to composer?
[20:16:06] <wmat>	 legoktm: seems more overhead to me
[20:16:11] <nobody44>	 Now in two other applications I could define a login filter "(memberOf=cn=wiki,ou=groups,...) and it works
[20:16:23] <nobody44>	 how would i do it in mediawiki? I didnt find a "login filter"
[20:18:59] <legoktm>	 nobody44: have you looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/Examples#Group_based_restrictions ?
[20:19:29] <nobody44>	 yes, i tried this approach, but it does not work and i dont find any logs why it does not work :-/
[20:19:43] <legoktm>	 wmat: if this is a production environment, I would definitely not run composer and instead use git. But for dev stuff using composer will probably be easier.
[20:20:16] <wmat>	 hmmm
[20:20:48] <wmat>	 but when composer is the norm, am I going to be left with a migration nightmare?
[20:21:12] <wmat>	 this is a production wiki running master branch of MW
[20:22:19] <legoktm>	 nobody44: try asking on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:LDAP_Authentication ?
[20:22:29] <nobody44>	 legoktm: it is not clear, how this variable works :-/.... must the user have an attribute with the specified value?
[20:23:02] <legoktm>	 wmat: well, composer is already the norm...
[20:23:10] <legoktm>	 wmat: or do you mean about extensions?
[20:25:34] <wmat>	 legoktm: i've never used it
[20:25:37] <csteipp>	 nobody44: wgRequiredGroups should just be an array of groups the user should be in to authenticate. So just the one in your case.
[20:26:04] <wmat>	 legoktm: i like the control of git much better
[20:26:11] <legoktm>	 wmat: I don't forsee there ever being a hard requirement to use composer if that's what you mean.
[20:26:30] <legoktm>	 yes, I like git much better too
[20:26:30] <wmat>	 legoktm: ok, i'm holding you to that ;)
[20:27:00] <nobody44>	 what do you mean with "the user should be in to authenticate"? does he need the "memberOf" attribute?
[20:30:02] <csteipp>	 nobody44: It can, if you also have wgGroupsUseMemberOf = true;
[20:32:20] <nobody44>	 csteipp: thank you, that was what i was missing
[22:14:58] <rillke>	 vagrant up appears to be stuck at "==> default: Info: /Stage[main]/Mediawiki::Jobrunner/File[/etc/default/jobrunner]: Scheduling refresh of Service[jobrunner]"
[22:15:36] <rillke>	 is this a known issue?
[22:17:28] <rillke>	 new installation, virtual box 4.3.20, vagrant 1.7.2, win 64bit
[22:17:59] <rillke>	 and the virtual box manager tells me that the status of the vagrant machine is now OFF
[22:23:10] <bd808>	 rillke: Puppet getting stuck there is new to me, but I think there is currently an issue that is keeping the jobrunner from starting in some circumstances
[22:23:22] <bd808>	 I was just looking at that earlier today
[22:24:04] <bd808>	 For me `sudo chmod 0666 /var/run/hhvm/hhvm.hhbc` (HHVM cli byte code cache file) fixed the startup problem
[22:25:04] <rillke>	 hey thanks :)
[22:57:14] <svetlana>	 is it possible to run a wiki frontend hooked to another wiki backend through oauth?
[23:09:00] <Fiona>	 svetlana: What's your real question?
[23:37:11] <Phoenix303>	 How to commit changes in files of different extensions?
[23:37:52] <MaxSem>	 git add file1 file2 file3 ...
[23:37:56] <MaxSem>	 git commit
[23:39:29] <Phoenix303>	 But they are in different extensions (e.g. one file is in "VectorBeta" and other in "Echo" extensions)
[23:45:29] <MaxSem>	 ah, mw extensions, not file extensions =)
[23:46:21] <Phoenix303>	 yes MaxSem mw extensions
[23:46:26] <MaxSem>	 you'll have to make 2 different commits. if they depend on each other just mention that in commit message so they wouldn't be merged separately
[23:46:54] <Phoenix303>	 you could not understand how to do it in a single commit
[23:46:59] <Phoenix303>	 okay
[23:47:18] <Phoenix303>	 thanks MaxSem
[23:54:48] <svetlana>	 Fiona: I would like to run my own wiki frontend for one wiki in order to install some extensions they refuse to install. Unlike what a normal wiki instance does, my wiki instance would lack shell access etc.
[23:55:43] <Fiona>	 I have no idea what that second sentence is saying.
[23:55:58] <Fiona>	 What are you actually trying to do?
[23:56:19] <Fiona>	 Setting up your own shadow wiki is kind of complex. What extensions/functionality are you missing on the site you want to imitate?