[00:38:57] !urlupload [00:39:05] damit [04:21:19] Hi I am new to freenode..I just want to contribute future mediawiki projects.. [04:58:11] andre? [04:59:12] T85270 [04:59:24] @MC8 [09:26:49] flattered that I got highlighted, I guess [09:51:30] hi there. is it the common behaviour that redlinks for non existing pages don't turn into a common link after a underlying page has been created? i have to open the source page with the redlink and save it again to make the redlinks disappear. [09:55:08] they should change to blue links when the page has been created [10:09:44] Hi, we have a mediawiki that I just updated to the last version. There is a lot of content in it, and currently all the users can see everything. I'd like to add an user that can only see specific pages, is there an extension that could do that without requiring me to explicitly change permissions on all existing pages ? [10:21:08] cgt: but they don't. where can the problem be located? [10:52:46] hi, somone familar with the search engine? The regex search does not work for me :( [11:56:55] I installed mediawiki on centos 7 but can't access it from the browser [11:57:19] i've turned off iptables and selinux for the sake of troubleshooting but still unable to connect [12:08:19] http://pastebin.com/RXKpV0RH [12:10:58] Vladimirski: what exactly do you mean by "unable to connect"? [12:11:09] what happens if you try? [12:21:21] DanielK_WMDE: when i type in my browser: serveradress/mediawiki i get "unable to connect" [12:21:39] DanielK_WMDE: even if I try to access the base apache I get the same [12:22:17] DanielK_WMDE: http://pastebin.com/RXKpV0RH my httpd.conf file [12:36:32] Vladimirski: you are new to apache? where did you copy the mediawiki sources? [12:44:36] they are in /var/www/mediawiki beli [12:46:43] uh.. [12:46:46] now with mustache! ??? [12:46:50] what's that for? [12:46:56] I don't think I like it. [12:47:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Wiki.png [12:52:46] beli: even if I type serveripadress in the browser i get "unable to connect" [12:52:49] just don't get it [13:03:54] Vladimirski: are you familiar with apache and its config? [13:07:22] Vladimirski: your config does not match your needs. did you create an own config file under /etc/httpd/conf.d for the mediawiki site? [13:44:01] Hi guys, [13:44:21] is this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png a funny joke or has MediaWiki.org been hacked? [13:46:55] :O Doesn't look like a joke to me. [13:47:19] I am asking because this image is actually used e.g. on mediawiki.org... [13:48:24] It's used here even: http://www.wikimedia.org [13:48:45] nerds/coders being nerds .. [13:48:53] so what's with the mustache? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png [13:49:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticMustacheFormat [13:53:22] comets:I like it! "Now with Mustache!" [13:54:35] comets: So there is an extension with mustache in its name. So what? [13:54:56] mediawiki.org does not even use it. [13:55:44] James_F|Away: [13:55:51] err, sorry James [13:56:45] Niharika, Guest68240: suport for the mustache template processor was added to mediawiki core. i suppose that's why the logo now also has a mustache :) [13:57:20] (this is not templating for use in wikitext, but rather for use by skins, when building html) [14:05:22] DanielK_WMDE: Thanks for the pointer! So this is supposed to be funny. I see. ;-( [14:05:52] Ah. [14:45:50] http://www.cannabismedisin.info/index.php/Om_cannabis [14:46:09] i cannot understand why my references link doesnt work here, just shows up as text [14:48:32] internetman: I think you need the protocol, e.g. http://google.com [14:49:14] internetman: so e.g. [http://google.com Google] [14:49:28] MC8: thanks! got stuck there [14:50:02] second time in two days PROTOCOL has had me stuck [14:50:14] stick to the PROTOCOL! [16:06:29] Hi [16:06:39] I want to contribute to mediawiki [16:06:49] please tell me where should i start? [16:07:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [16:07:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [16:07:30] oops [16:07:34] I win [16:07:39] :/ [16:08:22] Thanks :) [16:14:59] Is there an explanation anywhere on mediawiki.org for the "Now with Mustache" in the logo? [16:15:14] I understand it, but a lot of people might think the site's been hacked. [16:15:22] ...or at least will be confused. [16:15:39] was there even a discussion [16:15:54] That's another relevant question. [16:16:24] I don't think there was [16:16:36] can we please revert it [16:17:31] I guess I have to second that. Either provide a clear explanation for it, or remove it. [16:17:39] User:Kaldari did it [16:17:41] what is the reason [16:18:08] internetman: it's a reference to MediaWiki now making use of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_(template_system) [16:18:52] Why that would involve a change to the logo image, I couldn't say. [16:19:34] mw.org doesn't have an equivalent to WP:AN, does it [16:19:45] Yaron: hehe. well atleast its not something sub-fantastic like movember ^^ [16:20:15] Sadly, no. :) [16:20:34] wow [16:20:37] MC8: I'm not aware of one. [16:20:39] it's first mw.org logo update since 2005 [16:21:12] actually the /first/ update. [16:24:40] yeah there seems to be zero consensus [16:24:52] which is rather bad form for a protected page [16:25:41] I think we should revert that first [16:26:29] we should start the discussion or blame kaldari after revert it [16:27:18] in fairness mw.org is less consensus based than the other wikis [16:27:53] It can't be revetered, except by an administrator. [16:28:28] I'm administrator on mw.org [16:28:49] I think it was to arbitrary and It should reverted [16:28:51] hahahaa [16:29:38] but I don't think I can revert it [16:29:51] Let it be for a few hours, it's funny [16:30:04] legoktm: my favourite part is that it was on wikimedia.org too [16:30:17] hahahaha [16:30:23] so you had a very serious list of projects, and "NOW WITH MUSTACHE!" halfway through [16:31:20] I thought today is April fool's day [16:32:43] hah [16:33:37] anyway, is "mediawiki now with mustache" is a some kind of _big_ milestone on mediawiki? [16:33:47] okay, fun while it lasted, but i'm for reverting [16:33:55] it was up for almost the entire day [16:34:38] somebody might just want to submit to reddit first and rack up mad karma [16:35:45] only if you cleared your cache :( [16:35:59] devunt: it's not trivial, and it apparently took like a year to get it done [16:36:35] I hope the mediawiki community is happy with spelling moustache incorrectly forevermore [16:37:26] MC8: it's outside software; you'd have to blame someone else for that. :) [16:37:33] fork! [16:37:43] everything is the same other than a big huge sed [17:23:54] ugh, the Collection extension is going to kill me :/ [17:24:22] i have it completely working perfectly in a dev env, and can't get it to work in prod :( [17:24:32] sorry, i'm venting a little [17:33:49] Let's say you have a specific (semantic) class of paragraph (e.g., warning, tip) and you want to style those in a specific way. Then do you need to restort to HTML markup as opposed to using Wikitext? [17:34:08] I ask because it's generally recommended to use Wikitext wherever possible over HTML. [17:34:56] But I'm wondering if for CSS purposes you need to use HTML in cases like this [17:36:09] * wmat posts to Collection discussion page [17:39:23] Teacher: yeah, probably. [17:40:04] Teacher: stuff like "

" is allowed in wikitext. [17:40:30] Oh, never mind, I guess you knew that. [17:41:14] Yaron: Yes, that's the construction I was thinking of, but I was put off a bit because I've read that it's better to use Wikitext whenever possible. [17:41:59] Right, yeah. But people use

and stuff all the time. [17:42:24] Right. I guess before I started I just wanted to make sure there isn't a Wikitext way of doing it... [17:42:27] Even on the Wikipedia front page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [17:43:11] Yaron: Interesting link. Thanks! [19:24:07] Are extension developers encouraged to open a new project in Phabricator to track issues/provide support for extensions? [19:31:54] freephile: It's generally good practice, especially if your putting your extension on mw.org/gerrit [19:37:35] Reedy: thanks. Do you think I should add a reference to the Manual:Developing_extensions to suggest that? [19:38:05] Initially I couldn't even find the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_a_project page [20:26:28] freephile: yes, please do add it. [20:28:10] freephile: only projects that are basically managed fully outside of mw.org/wm.org (totally do their own thing on github), would probably not need a phab project. [21:16:12] Hi I need some help on making a shared DB. [21:41:10] Hi! Is there any place with an explanation on how MediaWiki's login works? I want to look into developing an extension for that, but I'm not sure where to start [21:41:25] Would I be just better off looking at other similar extensions and working from there? [21:55:02] soeb: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin ? [21:55:31] soeb: it's very very scary though :/ [22:11:23] did that latex-like wiki skin ever get a license in the end [22:12:03] no [22:14:45] MC8: what does that look like? got a link? [22:15:08] DanielK_WMDE: https://github.com/AndrewBelt/WiTeX [22:16:22] cute :) [22:17:44] I just followed this guide, https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-debian-wheezy/ [22:18:23] but still it can't find the mediawiki on the server, can I configure in the apache2.conf file to look for another apache.conf file? [22:19:03] since there is another on in the /etc/mediawiki/ [22:22:24] !packets [22:22:37] o_O where's the bot?... [22:22:49] !bug [22:22:49] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ [22:23:00] it's ignoring me :( [22:23:12] !packets [22:23:16] !bits [22:23:17] !bobs [22:23:29] what are we trying to do [22:23:30] Vladimirski: debian packages for mediawiki are strange. nobody knows how to use them, really :) [22:24:22] ok hehe [22:24:35] so I should just redo stuff DanielK_WMDE [22:25:33] Vladimirski: or ask the debian folks who know how that think is supposed to work [22:26:58] Vladimirski: also, https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#include [22:27:10] thank you so much=) [22:36:31] legoktm: That looks scary, especially for someone with little experience with anything MW [22:36:46] it's scary for people who have a bunch of stuff with MW :P [22:37:10] Well, that makes me feel slightly better then :D [22:38:47] While I'm here and it seems like someone's around, is there anything viable to migrate to from LQT? It's been increasingly problematic with each new MW version for us [22:39:07] I'd even go back to normal talk pages, provided we can avoid losing the content of the threads [22:39:20] soeb: depending on your definition of viable, Flow is getting there. [22:39:30] there was some progress on scripts to migrate to it from LQT recently [22:39:38] but i have no idea how reliable they are [22:39:52] (nor where to find them or how to use them, but i'm failry sure they exist :) ) [22:39:53] !e Flow [22:39:54] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flow [22:39:58] We'd like to stick to stable releases at least, and Flow seems to still require using the master branch :( [22:40:07] yes [22:40:48] soeb: MW 1.25 will be released soonish, though [22:41:08] 0 stable release is expected to come out on Wednesday, May 27, 2015. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.25 [22:41:19] Is the 1.25 requirement a definite? Or will it move up once again, as in the past? [22:41:23] The 1.25.00 stable release* :) [22:41:30] The 1.25.0 stable release* :) [22:42:05] soeb: it might, but there will exist a version of Flow compatible with 1.25. might not be the then-latest version, but one will definitely be available. [22:42:20] (i mean, just a snapshot created at the time when 1.25 was released) [22:42:29] Oh, I'll update to it once it's out, there's some features in 1.25 that will be greatly useful for us! [22:42:37] Right, so sort of an alternative [22:42:53] It still feels like we'd be leaving something deeply broken (LQT) for something in beta though [22:43:16] soeb: there also exist versions for 1.24 and older MediaWikis right now, but Flow was even more alpha then than it is now. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/Flow [22:43:28] alas, yes [22:43:44] the situation will get better, but that'll take time :( [22:43:55] As always, as always. [22:44:06] It's something to consider once 1.25 hits I guess [22:45:10] Thanks, hopefully by May it'll be stable enough to switch to [23:26:38] is there a way to make the [edit] links on headings/paragraphs hide on a page? [23:37:21] internetman: __NOEDITSECTION__ magic word [23:37:38] (just put this anywhere in the page wikitext) [23:38:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Behavior_switches [23:42:41] MatmaRex: cheers!