[00:00:10] <Gommit>	 Hello, I am interested in contributing to this org, Kindly guide me through how to proceed.
[00:01:19] <Fiona>	 Step 1: join this channel, ask twice, and then quickly leave.
[00:09:31] <greg-g>	 so, what's the mustache thing about?
[00:09:36] <greg-g>	 ( in /topic )
[00:11:45] * MaxSem blocks ^d for 31 hours
[00:11:59] * ^d wheel wars with MaxSem
[00:53:46] <ankita-ks>	 So i made the necessary changes in LocalSettings.php (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSMTP#Error_sending_mail:_Unknown_error_in_PHP.27s_mail.28.29_function_Mediawiki)
[00:53:51] <ankita-ks>	 and installed packages
[00:54:26] <ankita-ks>	 Now when I try to mail a confirmation code, I get the error : "Class undefined: Net_SMTP"
[04:35:48] <J5>	 How's everyone doing tonight?
[04:37:22] <Guest64184>	 How's everyone tonight? Midweek. Hooray.
[04:49:59] <Guest64184>	 No one has website questions? really?
[04:50:14] <Guest64184>	 Great, awesome. Good work everyone. Have a good night.
[05:42:54] <zacts>	 hum.. I'm wondering if I can use mediawiki for personal self hosted wikis
[05:43:02] <zacts>	 for note taking, and information gathering
[05:57:33] <prakhash>	 Hi all, I'm Prakhash & i'm new to mediawiki. I'm trying to work on an extension available in mediawiki I have installed the mediawiki core file using  git clone ssh://<USERNAME>@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git command.. but extensions are not available inside
[05:58:51] <prakhash>	 in this site https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Download_and_installation it is mentioned that after downloading the extensions we need to add a line in LocalSettings.php 
[05:59:04] <prakhash>	 but that file is not available in the core path too
[05:59:18] <prakhash>	 please help me to configure this extension
[05:59:48] <Niharika>	 Hi prakhash. 
[06:00:07] <Niharika>	 Did you setup MediaWIki using vagrant or was it a manual install?
[06:00:20] <dumindux>	 prakhash: if you installed mediawiki properly LocalSettings.php should be available.
[06:00:34] <prakhash>	 I have installed manually
[06:01:04] <Niharika>	 prakhash: Could you navigate to localhost instance on your browser? 
[06:02:53] <prakhash>	 No.. I do i need to use vagrant and is that Localsetting.php is a autigenarated file ?
[06:04:12] <Niharika>	 prakhash: Could you tell me what steps you followed while installing MW manually?
[06:05:33] <prakhash>	 after creating a developer account I have followed the steps mentioned in here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git
[06:06:16] <prakhash>	 MediaWiki requires the PSR-3 logging library to be present this is what I'm getting
[06:06:40] <prakhash>	 so is there is any issues with the external libraries 
[06:07:08] <Niharika>	 prakhash: Apparently, you haven't completed step #3 listed here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#Get_started under "Manual installation".
[06:09:26] <prakhash>	 Yes I have not done that part. I have tried to access the wiki home page before the extensions installation. Will the home directory will be appear only after I did the extensins installations ?
[06:11:06] <Niharika>	 prakhash: No. The mediawiki folder should have been created when you cloned it.  
[06:11:45] <Niharika>	 prakhash: There's no mediawiki directory? That might mean the download didn't complete/failed.
[06:14:12] <prakhash>	 git clone ssh://<USERNAME>@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git this was the link I have used and the core file exist in my folder. when I tried to access it through local server I'm getting that issue
[06:14:26] <prakhash>	 MediaWiki requires the PSR-3 logging library to be present. This library is not embedded directly in MediaWiki's git repository and must be installed separately by the end user. Please see mediawiki.org for help on installing the required components.
[06:14:48] <Niharika>	 prakhash: You were supposed to replace USERNAME with your username on gerrit. Did you do that?
[06:14:57] <prakhash>	 yes I did
[06:15:58] <Niharika>	 prakhash: And this? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Fetch_external_libraries
[06:17:34] <prakhash>	 I did that step too. So i think There must be any issues when installing the libraries. let me re check it. 
[06:25:49] <prakhash>	 Thanks Niharka it has happed when I was installing the libraries using the composer. I have done with it now and placed the Localsettings.php file inside the core directory
[07:02:03] <Guest85726>	 I'm getting an error when I run update.php
[07:02:13] <Guest85726>	 Error: 23503 ERROR:  insert or update on table "recentchanges" violates foreign key constraint "recentchanges_rc_cur_id_fkey"
[07:02:13] <Guest85726>	 DETAIL:  Key (rc_cur_id)=(284) is not present in table "page".
[07:03:14] <Guest85726>	 Before I had to remove a constraint with postgres to get deleting pages to work
[07:07:34] <Niharika_>	 qgil: Is it documented somewhere that past interns are not allowed to participate again with Wikimedia? 
[07:08:19] <qgil>	 hi Niharika_ 1 min
[07:11:41] <qgil>	 Niharika_, hm, I thought it was written somewhere but maybe not. Still, it is a firm policy since 2013. Can you add this to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Selection_process ?
[07:11:47] <qgil>	 please  :)
[07:13:08] <Niharika_>	 Sure! I'd add it as a note to the GSoC 2015 page too. There have been more than a couple of people not aware of it. 
[07:25:41] <Guest85726>	 Looks like rebuilding recentchanges worked!
[08:10:45] <Nemo_bis>	 Sigh. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Mobile_web_projects/Collections_Backend
[08:12:00] <Schroeder>	 News has a kind of mystery.
[08:30:22] <exploreshaifali>	 awight, please can you tell, for which repo of mediawiki this bug belong to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43663
[08:32:32] <exploreshaifali>	 qgil, ^^
[08:32:53] <qgil>	 hi exploreshaifali, looking
[08:35:08] <qgil>	 exploreshaifali, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/query/YdkFtS3v2pK5/#R
[08:35:23] <qgil>	 does this help?
[08:36:19] <qgil>	 exploreshaifali, being marked as an "Easy" task, feel absolutely free to ask questions in the task itself.
[08:36:33] <qgil>	 (You can also do this for non-Easy tasks, bdw
[08:37:04] <exploreshaifali>	 qgil, Thanks a lot, I am looking there :)
[08:37:30] <qgil>	 Thank you! I wish you good luck fixing that old bug.  :)
[08:44:31] <exploreshaifali>	 qgil, the but https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43663 want to modify "squids/SquidReportPageViewsPerCountryBreakdownHuge.htm" but I could not find this file inside squids https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wikistats/tree/master/squids
[08:44:47] <exploreshaifali>	 not even in any folders inside squids
[09:19:46] <sasan>	 hello, could anybody see my wiki: wiki.parsintelligent.com
[09:20:01] <sasan>	 i want to change the arow color in sidebar to white
[09:20:06] <sasan>	 could anybody help me
[09:20:11] <sasan>	 i tried a lot but can not
[09:23:23] <awight>	 exploreshaifali: Good question, it looks like the frontend for an EZachte script...
[09:26:18] <exploreshaifali>	 awight, umm, please can you specify where it is on github https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-wikistats
[09:29:45] <awight>	 exploreshaifali: That looks promising--I couldn't tell u at the moment, but would you mind commenting in the Phabricator task?
[09:30:24] <exploreshaifali>	 awight, not at all :P 
[09:36:34] <awight>	 exploreshaifali: try: grep -r 'count \*=' analytics-wikistats
[09:37:04] <awight>	 the most likely file seems to be ./squids-old/perl/SquidReportArchive.pl
[09:37:12] <awight>	 hmm, "old" nvm
[09:37:16] <awight>	 ./squids/perl/SquidReportArchive.pl
[09:38:41] <awight>	 line 9070, perhaps
[09:39:35] <awight>	 LOL, good luck with the here-document .js generated in Perl
[09:40:18] <awight>	 gotta go, @exploreshaifali thank you for taking a look at this issue.
[10:31:49] <abhishek_>	 Hi need some help in reviewing a patch that I submitted. I have added some error messages and would appreciate if someone could review it for grammatical errors and see if they are sufficiently descriptive...
[10:32:02] <abhishek_>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194466/2/languages/i18n/en.json
[10:32:11] <abhishek_>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194466/2/languages/i18n/qqq.json
[11:11:06] <cackoa_>	 hallo! can anybody say me how are called links like: {{congbio|B001264}}  which are ref-s to people? or is there any info about using it in wikipedia
[12:04:12] <andre__>	 cackoa_, that's a link to a {{template}} and the template is called "congbio" and there is a parameter after the |
[13:44:31] <baxi69>	 Hi @all, a lot of functions from class WikiPage return status objects. Is there somehwere a list with all possible return values of this class. It's a bit difficult to catch it without...
[14:40:45] <khushbu>	 i dont knw  how to start working on extensions 
[15:03:47] <kikero>	 Hey! I keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L47uVuLB
[15:04:53] <kikero>	 That's whenever I try creating a new page
[15:04:57] <kikero>	 Any ideas?
[15:05:19] <MC8>	 maybe run maintenance/update.php
[15:19:33] <spkdr>	 hi there, I'm trying to install graphviz on ubuntu LTS 12.04 and followed the instructions here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GraphViz
[15:19:59] <spkdr>	 everything seems properly isntalled, no more errors in apache logs, and binaries are installed and in /usr/bin (default path)
[15:20:07] <spkdr>	 I don't get however any image to display
[15:20:26] <spkdr>	 the text just appears as if it was a bunch of wiki text
[15:20:40] <spkdr>	 any thoughts on what I could check/test?
[15:21:01] <spkdr>	 I'm trying to render the default hello world graphviz btw, nothing fancy
[15:25:48] <hippie20001>	 hello - short question - is there a mw config value for the maximum transclusion size (in bytes?) im transcluding semantic special pages which works fine but some already get dropped entirely as they grew above some threshold which i dont find...
[15:27:03] <andre__>	 ( General note: If you don't receive an answer on IRC you might also want to try on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk )
[15:27:48] <hippie20001>	 tnx for the hint - i try patience first
[15:31:06] <hippie20001>	 good to know - never heard of the pretty frequented Support desk
[15:43:50] <Niharika_>	 Hey physikerwelt. Could you confirm if you'd like to mentor https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91505? 
[16:13:17] <bluenemo>	 hi guys, can I ask about bluespice here?
[16:13:23] <guillom>	 andre__: Around? Phabricator confuses me :/
[16:13:50] <greg-g>	 bluenemo: you're welcome to, but I don't know how much support the average person here can give
[16:13:52] <guillom>	 HAh, never mind, figured it out.
[16:14:51] <bluenemo>	 I've installed BlueSpice following http://help.blue-spice.org/index.php/BlueSpice_2.22/Installation_Manual#Installation, now when I do the last step of running php maintenance/update.php I get this error:
[16:15:31] <bluenemo>	 http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f6613f62/
[16:17:26] <bluenemo>	 I'm running Mediawiki 1.24.1 and BlueSpice 2.23.0
[16:20:29] <Nemo_bis>	 bluenemo: I'm not familiar with DB updates mechanics, but that smells of broken sql patch 
[16:20:39] <bluenemo>	 yeah :)
[16:20:42] <Nemo_bis>	 Please report to BlueSpice
[16:20:52] <Danny_B>	 nemo talk... ;-)
[16:20:54] <bluenemo>	 i'm creating a thread in http://sourceforge.net/p/bluespice/discussion/1249668
[16:33:26] <bluenemo>	 Opened a thread here https://sourceforge.net/p/bluespice/discussion/1249668/thread/2437c822/
[16:58:28] <s1991>	 Hello, any gsoc mentor around?
[16:58:43] <Nemo_bis>	 maybe
[17:00:21] <s1991>	 Hello, I want to talk in reference to "Implement support for Auth"
[17:00:33] <s1991>	 but both the listed mentors are not here
[17:01:56] <Nemo_bis>	 s1991: have you already sent some patch agains their repo (or related)?
[17:02:32] <andre__>	 s1991, "Implement support for Auth" in which project / extension? Any link handy?
[17:02:46] * andre__ wonders if OAuth is meant instead
[17:02:58] <s1991>	 Nemo_bis: no I haven't started yet. That's what I wanna ask any tips for starter?
[17:03:17] <andre__>	 s1991, in which code project?
[17:03:27] <Nemo_bis>	 pwb
[17:03:28] <Nemo_bis>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74065
[17:03:29] <andre__>	 more hints welcome, otherwise the answer will be very generic :)
[17:03:40] <Nemo_bis>	 "
[17:03:40] <Nemo_bis>	 Suggested micro-task: Fix one of the Pywikibot-login.py bugs"
[17:03:52] <s1991>	 andre__: I'm talking abt one that's listed in GSOC idea list
[17:04:00] <Nemo_bis>	 s1991: did you already follow? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[17:04:18] <Nemo_bis>	 Sigh, every single workboard I visit I'm forced to switch to open tasks view
[17:04:29] <andre__>	 s1991: if you provide links, things are way easier for others :)
[17:04:43] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis, will be fixed in the next upgrade. That's a bug in the sprint extension actually :-/
[17:04:56] <Nemo_bis>	 s1991: this looks quite easy, you could try https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63832
[17:05:05] <andre__>	 s1991: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs might also provide some hints (and a link to the link that Nemo_bis already pasted)
[17:05:08] <s1991>	 andre__: ohh sorry, here it is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74065
[17:05:20] <Nemo_bis>	 2 min late ;)
[17:06:13] <andre__>	 s1991, for the records, that's OAuth, not Auth. :)
[17:06:55] <s1991>	 ha, I was think OAuth, but written it wrong
[17:07:09] <andre__>	 s1991: I don't see you in the Pywikibot IRC channel (assuming you are interested in Pywikibot, as that task is about Pywikibot)
[17:07:31] <andre__>	 in that channel there might be a few more Pywikibot hackers than here :)
[17:08:01] <s1991>	 andre__: now I'm
[17:08:30] * Niharika loves the default workboard view
[17:08:51] <andre__>	 Niharika, great to hear that :)   (Now it only needs to become more performant)
[17:09:48] <Niharika>	 andre__: One feature request though - enable horizontal scrolling while moving tasks between columns. Is there an existing ticket for that? 
[17:10:24] <andre__>	 Niharika, maybe... however, I don't encourage too many columns. Zooming out is a workaround.
[17:11:15] <Niharika>	 Okay. Yeah. 
[17:11:54] <MC8>	 it'd be nice if the default one-column workboard was at least 100% width
[17:12:53] <Niharika>	 That's be a good idea. Make columns auto-adjust width. 
[17:12:55] <andre__>	 MC8: That doesn't make sense.
[17:13:13] <andre__>	 Instead, people should not be allowed to create workboards without having an idea what they are doing.
[17:13:22] <andre__>	 Because there simply should not be workboards with just one column.
[17:13:31] <andre__>	 (and yes, there's an upstream ticket about that)
[17:13:46] <MC8>	 andre__: I assumed that every project automatically got one (e.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/easy/)
[17:13:51] <andre__>	 MC8, nope
[17:14:25] <andre__>	 someone needs to click on the Workboard button. and create it with another click. and some people do because they cannot be blocked from that currently :)
[17:15:11] <MC8>	 is there a log so that we can yell at people? :p
[17:15:26] <andre__>	 MC8, I can only query SQL for that...
[17:15:40] <MC8>	 aw, that's no fun
[17:16:22] <andre__>	 Phun is elsewhere! We do serious work here! ;)
[17:18:40] <marktraceur>	 Does anyone know if there's a way to tell ResourceLoader to load a message without modifying a module object?
[17:18:45] <marktraceur>	 It seems like that would be much easier
[17:21:09] <marktraceur>	 But then again I haven't figured out how to modify the module yet
[17:21:27] <marktraceur>	 Apart from using wgResourceModules directly which I think is a big no-no now.
[17:26:05] <legoktm>	 marktraceur: $out->addModuleMessages(), but I think there's a patch to get rid of that functionality because there's no real usecase
[17:26:49] <marktraceur>	 legoktm: And that uses the messages already in a module.
[17:27:03] <marktraceur>	 legoktm: I have a module with no messages that I want to add messages to dynamically
[17:27:12] <legoktm>	 ohh
[17:27:30] <marktraceur>	 Or at least make them available, I don't care if they "belong" to this module.
[17:27:43] <legoktm>	 marktraceur: you can use the ResourceLoaderRegisterModules hook
[17:27:50] <marktraceur>	 Hm.
[17:28:04] <marktraceur>	 legoktm: I guess I could make a messages-only module in the extension, actually. It's a bit weird.
[17:28:09] <Pennth>	 Is anyone using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Auth_remoteuser with single sign-on?
[17:28:20] <legoktm>	 marktraceur: well, what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:28:27] <marktraceur>	 legoktm: T89765
[17:29:27] <legoktm>	 marktraceur: so don't  you need some JS to include the message?
[17:30:53] <marktraceur>	 legoktm: Yes, but the message is different, potentially, for each file handler.
[17:31:00] <legoktm>	 ah
[17:31:03] <marktraceur>	 I'm having the handler return a message name to core
[17:31:09] <marktraceur>	 And core will add the message
[17:31:36] <marktraceur>	 But I can just return an array with a bunch of messages, and a module name, and it would work fine.
[17:34:03] <legoktm>	 what if you had a base 'mw.scaryfiletype' module, and then each handler extension or core would register 'mw.scaryfiletype.pdf', which depends upon 'mw.scaryfiletype' and adds the correct message?
[17:40:56] <marktraceur>	 legoktm: Passing the OutputPage into the file handler doesn't sound more sane to me
[17:41:09] <marktraceur>	 (for adding that module)
[17:41:11] <legoktm>	 err, that does not :/
[17:41:24] <marktraceur>	 I think this will work OK
[17:41:28] <legoktm>	 ok :)
[17:41:39] <marktraceur>	 We'll see how the review goes, I suppose
[18:09:44] <sakshi1>	 Hi! I am trying to install vagrant on windows 8 os
[18:10:04] <sakshi1>	 while typing the command ./setup.bat 3 
[18:10:11] <sakshi1>	 I get the following error
[18:10:51] <sakshi1>	 Installing plugin vagrant-vbguest
[18:11:36] <sakshi1>	 The directory where plugins are installed has a space in it.Please move your Vagrant home directory to a path without spaces
[18:11:56] <sakshi1>	 please tell me which one is my vagrant home directory
[18:12:16] <sakshi1>	 ** ./setup.bat #
[18:12:21] <Furai>	 Hey guys. I have question about upgarding the extensions.
[18:12:42] <Furai>	 Is it ok just to run in extension folder "git pull" if it was cloned
[18:12:43] <Furai>	 ?
[18:12:49] <Furai>	 Is it enough to update it?
[18:15:12] <sakshi1>	 plz tell how do i change my home directory for vagrant
[18:15:55] <Furai>	 Anyone? I'm just in the process of upgrading our installation and it could be nice if someone could confirm it. I'll idle in this channel for few hours/days but still I'd like to get the answer as soon as possible. :P
[18:16:04] <MatmaRex>	 Furai: probably, yes. why would it not be?
[18:16:12] <Furai>	 No idea.
[18:16:29] <Furai>	 I've just did it to one of the extensions and the version page shows that the version number changed
[18:16:32] <MatmaRex>	 Furai: you might want to update to the version appropriate for your MediaWiki version, and not master, though.
[18:16:35] <Furai>	 But date stayed the same.
[18:16:49] <MatmaRex>	 (unless you're running master of MW too)
[18:17:09] <MatmaRex>	 `git checkout REL1_23` or whichever number, after `git pull`
[18:17:10] <Furai>	 Hmm, I'm running the latest stable. 1.24.1
[18:17:16] <MatmaRex>	 but apart from that it should be good.
[18:17:26] <Furai>	 MatmaRex, good point.
[18:17:45] <MatmaRex>	 it might be good with using master, too, each extension does backwards-compatibility differently
[18:18:04] <MatmaRex>	 just a thing to keep in mind if something goes weird :)
[18:18:29] <Furai>	 Hmm, I don't really see in extensions anything saying which revision is for which version.
[18:18:56] <Furai>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status%3Aopen+project%3Amediawiki/extensions/CheckUser,n,z
[18:19:01] <Furai>	 e.g. this one.
[18:19:11] <Furai>	 It seems that master only has the latest version.
[18:19:23] <Furai>	 So it doesn't hold the "nightly changes".
[18:20:37] <Furai>	 Anyway, I'll just git pull on all of them, one by one. If one breaks something I'll know.
[18:22:26] <Furai>	 Ah, no I found something about it.
[18:25:24] <Furai>	 MatmaRex, so I see that one of the extensions uses git tags.
[18:26:40] <MatmaRex>	 Furai: they should (almost) all have branches
[18:26:46] <MatmaRex>	 or possibly tags
[18:26:55] <MatmaRex>	 like REL1_22, REL1_23, REL1_24, etc.
[18:26:57] <Furai>	 Yeah, I see tags.
[18:27:13] <Furai>	 https://git.wikimedia.org/log/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FAdminLinks
[18:27:21] <Furai>	 This one has tags, I think.
[18:29:14] <sakshi1>	 Hi!
[18:29:33] <sakshi1>	 please tell how can I change vagrant home directory??
[18:30:03] <sakshi1>	 I am getting error in vagrant installation because of the spaces in home directory path
[18:30:55] <bd808>	 sakshi1: See http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/other/environmental-variables.html (set a VAGRANT_HOME environment variable)
[18:31:37] <bd808>	 sakshi1: See also -- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26102156/unable-to-install-plugin-hostmanager-in-vagrant-in-windows-8-1
[18:34:26] <ankita-ks>	 Hi, when I try to confirm email I get the output "class undefined : Net_SMTP". I am running mediawiki on vagrant. 
[18:35:46] <bd808>	 ankita-ks: Have you updated you mediawiki-vagrant git clone and ran `vagrant provision` recently? We had a bug with the email classes but I think it was resolved a couple of weeks ago
[18:36:03] <ankita-ks>	 No. I haven't.
[18:36:05] <ankita-ks>	 will do now
[18:36:07] <ankita-ks>	 thanks!
[18:36:10] <bd808>	 yw
[18:37:03] <matthewburton>	 I'm getting the "This wiki requires cookies; you have disabled them" error on login. I tried the top solution here to no avail: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16127882/how-can-i-fix-the-mediawiki-error-wiki-uses-cookies-to-log-in-users-you-have-c
[18:37:48] <matthewburton>	 to my knowledge, nothing on the server or the install was changed in the past 24 hours (and it was working fine yesterday)
[18:43:51] <matthewburton>	 any ideas?
[18:44:30] <Nemo_bis>	 Are you sure nothing changed in your browser?
[18:44:45] <matthewburton>	 i've tried multiple browsers
[18:45:57] <matthewburton>	 and multiple systems
[18:47:58] <matthewburton>	 the session.save_path variable in my php.ini file is commented out
[18:48:32] <matthewburton>	 but the file hasn't been modified in two months
[18:49:59] <Ulfr>	 Just remember, when all else fails blame the intern.
[18:51:15] <matthewburton>	 don't have any to blame
[18:52:16] <Ulfr>	 I honestly have no idea what we're even talking about, I'm just a firm believer in blaming interns. They're so transitory
[18:52:48] <matthewburton>	 if no one can log in, is there any harm in deleting the two session files currently in the /tmp directory?
[18:52:59] <matthewburton>	 (mediawiki is the only service on this server)
[18:53:07] <Ulfr>	 As a rule? If it's in tmp it's deletable
[18:53:21] <Ulfr>	 Well.
[18:53:33] <Ulfr>	 No, yeah. Worst thing that could happen is you'd need to restart the service
[18:55:08] <matthewburton>	 i deleted /tmp's contents, which included a session that matched a cookie in my browser
[18:55:25] <matthewburton>	 i then tried to log back in. i still get the error and cannot log in. the same session file is now back in /tmp
[18:55:33] <Ulfr>	 what's your error?
[18:55:48] <matthewburton>	 upon login, this wiki "uses cookies to log in users. You have cookies disabled. Please enable them and try again."
[18:56:09] <matthewburton>	 have replicated this error in multiple browsers and on multiple systems
[18:56:26] <Ulfr>	 Hmmm.
[18:56:51] <Ulfr>	 Is this a new thing that suddenly happened? Or is this your first setup
[18:57:12] <matthewburton>	 suddenly
[18:57:17] <matthewburton>	 wiki has been up for a few months
[18:58:00] <Nemo_bis>	 That login error message is often bogus, don't believe it
[18:58:14] <Nemo_bis>	 IIRC
[18:58:37] <Nemo_bis>	 So, consider any option, including PHP updates, updates in crypto libraries and whatever
[19:01:08] <Ulfr>	 Step #1 in mediawiki troubleshooting is to never take the error message at face value
[19:02:11] <MatmaRex>	 Ulfr: aw, come on. that's step 2.
[19:03:24] <matthewburton>	 well this is not how i wanted to spend my day
[19:04:04] <Ulfr>	 MatmaRex: Noooo. Step #2 is to join MW IRC chat and MatmaRex or Vulpix to divine the error's intentions
[19:04:35] <Ulfr>	 matthewburton: Did you change domain names? does your $wgServer name match?
[19:04:47] <MatmaRex>	 Ulfr: hey, if MediaWiki knew what's actually broken, it would have fixed itself
[19:04:50] <matthewburton>	 Ulfr, no changes
[19:04:57] <MatmaRex>	 (sorry, i have nothing smart to say this time)
[19:05:17] <Ulfr>	 MatmaRex: If Mediawiki troubleshot itself I'd immediately welcome our new robot overlords
[19:05:55] <MatmaRex>	 i would accept if it just shot itself, too.
[19:05:56] <MatmaRex>	 *rimshot*
[19:06:10] <matthewburton>	 most of the online comments revolve around the tmp directory, which is oddly not defined in my php.ini file
[19:06:47] <Ulfr>	 Wait, it's creating a cookie?
[19:07:06] <Ulfr>	 Examine your tasty treat closesly. There's bound to be something wonky about it
[19:08:02] <Ulfr>	 Oh, MatmaRex 
[19:08:06] <Ulfr>	 You ready for a fun one?
[19:08:07] <matthewburton>	 i'll remove all cookies for this site and try again
[19:08:14] <Ulfr>	 matthewburton: nooo
[19:08:18] <matthewburton>	 ok
[19:08:26] <Ulfr>	 you using firefox?
[19:08:45] <matthewburton>	 chrome
[19:08:50] <matthewburton>	 i'm looking at the cookie
[19:08:53] * Ulfr sighs
[19:08:57] <Ulfr>	 Chrome... :|
[19:09:05] <matthewburton>	 everyone's got an opinion
[19:09:06] <Ulfr>	 Ok, does the server name match up?
[19:09:09] <MatmaRex>	 Ulfr: yeah?
[19:09:20] <Ulfr>	 MatmaRex: My wiki was a happy little wiki
[19:09:24] <Ulfr>	 Then I upgraded to 1.24
[19:09:25] <matthewburton>	 the file in /tmp on the server matches the cookie in my browser
[19:09:29] <Ulfr>	 Now my wiki's haunted again
[19:09:55] <Ulfr>	 At some randomly timed event, my entire wiki just goes down. Boop, no more database connectivity
[19:10:15] <matthewburton>	 i'm on 1.24, btw
[19:10:16] <Ulfr>	 The fix is to restart the slave db's service, and it works again
[19:10:26] <Ulfr>	 BUT when I console into the machine, I'm able to access it fine
[19:10:52] <Ulfr>	 matthewburton: In that case I'd recommend you start by commenting out everything in LocalSettings.php that you can
[19:10:58] <Ulfr>	 BARE MINIMUM to ensure you have a wiki
[19:11:07] <Ulfr>	 If you can log in then, you know it's a setting or extension
[19:11:21] <matthewburton>	 yep, ok
[19:12:11] <Ulfr>	 MatmaRex: The only error feedback is from MySQL saying the connection failed
[19:12:29] <MatmaRex>	 D:
[19:12:50] <Ulfr>	 Yep. That's my feel.
[19:13:01] <Ulfr>	 The excellent part is the site goes down as SOON as I fall asleep or am distracted
[19:14:50] <matthewburton>	 well that's interesting...i just commented out several extensions. viewing the main page gets me, "A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software."
[19:15:39] <Ulfr>	 matthewburton: Hooboy. I'd recommend you consult your local witch doctor, or keep chugging until it runs without whining
[19:21:27] <phoenix303>	 Hi All, I am particpating in Outreachy and am interested in One stop translation project https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89103
[19:21:57] <Nemo_bis>	 Hi
[19:22:01] <phoenix303>	 I have few questions regarding this?
[19:22:05] <phoenix303>	 Hi
[19:22:20] <matthewburton>	 well...i commented out extensions until i was able to log back in. i then reactivated the extensions, logged out, deleted my /tmp directory, and logged back in. it still works. so who knows what the problem was.
[19:23:00] <Nemo_bis>	 :(
[19:23:15] <Nemo_bis>	 Do you have any authentication extension in there?
[19:23:32] <Nemo_bis>	 phoenix303: then ask them
[19:23:50] <phoenix303>	 It says that it lacks features like search in source langugage
[19:23:55] <matthewburton>	 nemo_bis: nope
[19:24:27] <phoenix303>	 when search this way it shows the exact result
[19:24:29] <phoenix303>	 https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&query=MediaWiki%3ATog-underline&language=fi&group=mediawiki
[19:25:21] <phoenix303>	 I could not understand the problem with this bug 
[19:25:22] <phoenix303>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55656
[19:25:29] <phoenix303>	 how could I replicate it
[19:25:36] <phoenix303>	 ?
[19:26:06] <matthewburton>	 thanks for your help, everyone. i have edits to make now.
[19:29:46] <Nemo_bis>	 phoenix303: please follow the steps in the bug
[19:31:20] <Niharika>	 Nemo_bis: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55656 This doesn't list any steps?
[19:31:22] <Nemo_bis>	 I added an example for the step which wasn't clear to you
[19:31:27] <Niharika>	 Ah. 
[19:36:09] <phoenix303>	 Nemo_bis : It returns list of all the messages that has "edit" keyword. Please correct me if I am wrong. Expected result should be all the messages with "edit" keyword in user-preference language
[19:37:39] <phoenix303>	 eg : If a user defined language has been set to french then the result should return list of all the messages with "edit" keyword and in french
[19:37:43] <phoenix303>	 ?
[19:44:08] <phoenix303>	 What is the "source language"  refers to?
[19:44:48] <phoenix303>	 Nemo_bis: What is the "source language"  refers to?
[19:47:27] <MC8>	 "source language" is generally the original one (normally English)
[19:47:58] <pasleim>	 Hi, someone around who can approve oAuth apps?
[19:49:53] <phoenix303>	 MC8: How can we change it? If I change my language in ULS to french then will my source language become french?
[19:55:51] <sitic>	 pasleim: probably best to ping an oauth-admin directly https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=oauthadmin
[20:09:15] <Nemo_bis>	 phoenix303: yes
[20:27:13] <phoenix303>	 Nemo_bis, Thank you