[01:10:21] what do i need to change in mediawiki to move my blog from somedomain.com/mediawiki to wiki.somedomain.com [01:14:32] oh.. even wikipedia has it in /wiki [01:20:20] !root [01:20:20] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !nullpath, !rewriteproblems, [01:20:32] !nullpath [01:20:32] Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't foresee (and if it doesn't, it might break in the future). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [01:20:55] !nullpath | k-man_ [01:20:55] k-man_: Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't foresee (and if it doesn't, it might break in the future). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [01:21:58] thanks Betacommand [01:22:47] so mine is currently under /mediawiki can i change it to /wiki? [01:25:11] ah found instructions, thanks [01:26:44] k-man_: you might want to use w and wiki as the rewrite [01:27:07] yeah, i'm seeing that in the suggestions on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Recommended_how-to_guide_.28setup_used_on_Wikipedia.29 [01:27:15] i'll move it to w [01:47:51] hmm... apache is redirecing to /w/w/path... [01:53:56] ah, worked it out [04:49:25] Hi -- recently upgraded to MW 1.24.1 "over" a previous installation of 1.20; Now none of the images are loading (but they can still be uploaded). [05:14:54] Anyone with tips on (1) how to search mediawiki-l or (2) how to fix image viewing (but not uploading) permissions after an upgrade? [06:46:59] how to get images from wikipedia using api [06:50:06] pls help [08:01:10] I guess we should link gmane from the mediawiki-l listinfo, or something. [08:09:45] Good morning/day/evening. I moved database from one mediawiki install (1.19) to other which is the latest (1.24). I have defined new $IP path and I have done updating the db to maintenance/update.php. I now have problems with broken file links. The old wiki had files and images stored in mediawiki/images directory and the latest wiki has only uploads folder. Where should I put the images from mediawiki/images in the new mediawiki? Uploads? How do I fix the [08:09:47] n file paths (images -> uploads)? A bit of sed magic on dumped db or something more elegant? [08:09:49] Thanks. [08:22:55] Kostic: i'm not aware that the location of uploaded media changed. You can configure the location: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUploadDirectory [08:23:06] for more info on configurign file uploads, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads [08:23:34] DanielK_WMDE: Thank you. [08:34:05] libreidea.org needs an essential functionality: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91644 - we need someone to realize a fork/modif of voteNY [08:36:39] vev: that functionality is quite specific to your use case. you'll probably have to find someone who writes it for you specifically (and probably for money). the closest thing i know of would be "Article Feedback" https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticleFeedbackv5 [08:38:44] DanielK_WMDE: better than voteny for you? [08:40:56] I ll ask until someone help btw [08:43:05] voteNY seems to be better to my case [08:47:09] vev: never heard of it, no idea [08:55:53] I want to know how many time to do this job from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VoteNY [08:59:52] may someone evaluate this task? [09:09:36] there s no european in here? [09:17:43] vev: why would you think that? [09:18:48] think what sry? [09:19:15] european? [09:27:16] Hi. I have set up vagrant, and localhost takes me to the devwiki page. However, when I try localhost/mediawiki/index.php , it says that the page doesn't exist. Can somebody please help? [09:35:07] vev: Yes. Why would you think that there are nobody from Europe in this channel? [09:36:25] cause US are sleeping right now :p [09:37:11] :) [09:52:43] I've fixed problems with my mediawiki/images directory (a bad .htaccess rule was the problem). [09:53:03] Most of the pages are working good but I'm having problems with a couple of broken File: links. [09:53:17] How do you call File: links technically? [10:15:56] libreidea.org needs an essential functionality: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91644 - we need some php devs to make a fork/modif of voteNY [10:28:43] Hi. After vagrant up, the host opens the devwiki page on the browser. Can somebody tell me how to open the mediawiki files on the browser? [11:31:52] I have a lot of broke FILE: links afer I updated mediawiki from 1.19 to 1.24. [11:31:58] What could cause that? [11:34:49] hello, my name is phiju basumatary pursuing my bachelor degree in computer engineering from nit surat,india. I have knowledge in php,javascript. I like the project ideas 'extension to identify and delete the spam page'. Can u please help me how to begin with? [11:43:51] phiju123: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [12:51:11] Hey!! i am planning to participate in outreachy'15 for wikimedia. pls help me out about how to get started [12:52:09] Hey!! i am planning to participate in outreachy'15 for wikimedia. pls help me out about how to get started [12:55:22] Niharika: Hi. I have set up mediawiki-vagrant. But when I point the browser to the localhost, it is taking me to the devwiki page. Could you please help me as to how to go and debug the mediawiki files now? [12:57:54] ayushi: I am not clear on what your question is. [12:58:24] ayushi: devwiki is the MediaWiki homepage, and it's what you should be seeing. What files you want to debug? [12:59:09] Mam can i get some help how to begin with? [12:59:50] Niharika: When using the IDE, eclipse, it tries to go to http://127.0.0.1:8080/mediawiki/index.php , and I get an error message that the file doesnot exist. [13:00:29] phiju123: What help do you want? [13:00:46] ayushi: Then how do you see the devwiki page? [13:01:27] i m interested in the project extension to identify the spam and deleting it [13:01:44] Niharika: Simple by http://127.0.0.1:8080 . The problem here is that I want to access the special pages which are in the mediawiki project, how do I do that? [13:02:04] ayushi: On the sidebar, there's a link for Special Pages. [13:02:40] phiju123: Have you tried working on the microtasks? [13:03:56] nope I need to start [13:04:17] Niharika: Okay. So any change I make in the php files will be reflected in these special pages here right? [13:04:30] ayushi: Yes. [13:04:40] Niharika: Cool. Thanks :) [13:06:41] Hey!! i want to participate in outreachy'15.can anyone help me to get started with the qualification task? [13:08:37] gb27_: Pick a project and work on its microtask(s). https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Possible_projects [13:10:03] gb27_, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs also provides some info and links to tasks to start contributing to Wikimedua code in general [13:15:21] is it bad form for a non-gsoc person to steal one of those [13:21:20] Niharika: Can i have link where can i get this microtask? [13:22:26] phiju123: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Possible_projects Click on any project link. [13:28:02] zuzak, ? Annoying little bugs are for everybody. That's nothing GSoC specific :) [13:28:59] well, it's just that there's lots of "oh this would be great for an outreach project" stuff that I don't want to step on people's toes over [13:31:55] I had some question , how about we would go about identifying a spam page [13:36:13] hi folks [13:36:20] is there a gallery for mediawiki with comments? [13:42:19] veverak: not sure what you mean [13:42:27] a or something else? [13:42:42] a peanut gallery? [13:42:42] sDrewthedoff: gallery where you could comment each picture separatedly [13:42:49] gallery of pictures [13:42:51] :) [13:42:58] sure, gallery does that already [13:43:17] Filenaeme.jpg|Comment one [13:43:26] Filenaemedd.jpg|Comment two [13:43:27] ...\ [13:43:33] [13:44:16] e.g. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Proofread_of_the_Month [13:44:33] sDrewthedoff: yeah, idea was that you could use some easy way to do it [13:44:38] not to edit the source of the page [13:44:43] though I we use #tag:gallery [13:46:28] that doesn't make sense, how can you think to comment without editing? [13:46:38] do you mean in Visual Editor? [13:47:11] presuming that you have read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Gallery_tag [13:58:06] hey there, I have a lots of pages I'd like to delete, the title of these pages always ends with ".wiki". Is it possible to bulk delete these by any chance? :) [13:59:27] yeah [13:59:29] easy visual editor [14:02:35] veverak: errr, ok? [14:03:10] qchn: not mentioned for you O:) [14:03:25] sorry [14:04:14] oh, ok. Sorry %) [14:08:01] Oh ok, I'm wrong. I already deleted these pages using the mass deletion plugin but it seems that they appear when I search for something. [14:09:46] Is there a way that already deleted pages won't be shown when you search for something that matches on something of the deleted page? [14:14:10] I moved the wiki to another host and then updated it to the latest mediawiki. I lost File links and Images in articles. Images and files are located in images dir. How to restore file links and images inside articles? [14:26:50] Kostic: Did you do a full database dump before moving? [14:27:27] marktraceur: Yes. The old (1.19) wiki is also up and running on the other server. [14:27:49] Kostic: Can you tell me *how* you did the database dump and restore? [14:28:15] From the terminal. mysqldump wiki > wiki.sql and mysql wiki < wiki.sql on the new server. [14:28:26] And then I executed php maintenance/update.php [14:29:20] Not all File links and images are lost. And when I grep the old database (cat wiki.sql | grep) I see that there are strings containing the domain-name of the old host. [14:30:44] Well, yup [14:31:05] Oh, the old host, well maybe that's the problem [14:31:09] I'm affraid that there are some leftover links in the database. [14:31:19] Leftover links pointing to old host* [14:33:19] Also, php maintenance/checkImages.php tells me that all of my images are missing. Is checkImages.php script bugged, perhaps? [14:49:10] Kostic: mediawiki is careful not to put any URLs or other domain specific information to the database. [14:49:24] it's generally possible to mograte to another domain without changing the database at all [14:49:55] What could then be the problem. Some files and images aren't linked into the articles properly but exist in the images directory. [14:49:59] (unless you are using an extension that *does* write stuff like that to the db) [14:50:29] This is a stock Mediawiki with UniversalLanguageSelector and VisualEditor. Nothing more. [14:50:36] Kostic: do the descriptions pages for these files exist on your wiki? [14:51:08] Description page is a page which has file size, type etc.? [14:51:20] * Kostic is a bit of a noob when it comes to wiki. [14:51:36] If so, yes. Description pages are missing for those files. [14:52:11] Let me clarify, on the old wiki, description pages for files exist but not on the new one with the old database. [15:17:51] hi! I am getting connection error after typing vagrant up on powershell [15:17:54] How can I fix this? [15:18:31] sakshi1_: Can you pastebin the entire log? [15:18:34] !pastebin | sakshi1_ [15:18:35] sakshi1_: To avoid overflowing the channel with inane amounts of text, use https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/paste/create/ or other awesome pastebin sites to share code, errors, and other large texts. [15:19:53] Could be windows firewall issues. It's almost certainly a generic VirtualBox problem rather than something specific to our mw-vagrant plugin and config. [15:22:08] oh... do you have to run the vagrant up command from the git bash instead of powershell? That actually may be the problem. [15:22:23] * bd808 randomly guesses at windows problems and solutions [15:23:18] sakshi1: windows vagrant troubleshooting steps from a similar project -- https://github.com/Varying-Vagrant-Vagrants/VVV/issues/375#issuecomment-47933872 [15:27:06] marktraceur: Bringing machine 'default' up with 'virtualbox' provider... [15:27:11] ==> default: Clearing any previously set forwarded ports... [15:27:11] ==> default: Clearing any previously set network interfaces... [15:27:11] ==> default: Preparing network interfaces based on configuration... [15:27:20] default: Adapter 1: nat [15:27:20] default: Adapter 2: hostonly [15:27:21] ==> default: Forwarding ports... [15:27:21] default: 80 => 8080 (adapter 1) [15:27:21] default: 22 => 2222 (adapter 1) [15:27:21] ==> default: Running 'pre-boot' VM customizations... [15:27:22] ==> default: Booting VM... [15:27:24] ==> default: Waiting for machine to boot. This may take a few minutes... [15:27:24] default: SSH address: 127.0.0.1:2222 [15:27:33] default: SSH username: vagrant [15:27:33] default: SSH auth method: private key [15:27:33] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:34] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:34] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:34] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:41] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:42] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:42] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:42] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:42] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:42] default: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... [15:27:44] um [15:28:22] sakshi1: So that pastebin thing I linked is for your own safety [15:28:31] sakshi1: You just set off spam alerts in another channel. [15:28:40] sakshi1: Don't do that again. [15:28:47] marktraceur, what do you mean another channel? [15:29:17] Nahiyan: #wikimedia-ops, the channel for people who administer community channels. [15:29:19] there is no cabal [15:29:24] oh :O [15:29:24] but there is! [15:29:43] sakshi1: windows vagrant troubleshooting steps from a similar project -- https://github.com/Varying-Vagrant-Vagrants/VVV/issues/375#issuecomment-47933872 -- may be of help [15:29:45] The WMF cabal. The cabaliest cabal of them all. [15:30:07] cgt: I dunno about that. People *know* about the WMF. Hardly a cabal. [15:30:37] They don't know about the occult rituals! [15:30:54] cgt: Eh, those are few and far between. [15:31:01] Most of us don't even know why we do them [15:31:23] * freephile lol [15:35:12] Hi, I would like to work on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90238 this project this summer as a part of GSOC15. Can any one give me some suggestions to start building an extension? [16:03:35] !extensions | Sriteja95 [16:03:35] Sriteja95: MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions. [16:09:58] thanks | marktraceur [16:11:54] !extensions [16:11:54] MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions. [16:13:22] Thanks ankita-ks. :) [16:14:14] Thanks marktraceur and ankita-ks. [16:14:25] Thanks wm-bot. [16:14:25] Hey marktraceur, you are welcome! [16:29:39] hey, overtime I try to do a 'vagrant reload', I get this error : https://gist.github.com/ankita-kumari/1c8488ef9411cde47a0b [16:29:45] *every time [16:30:15] Does anyone have an idea why? :\ [16:46:22] there is wgSquidServers for IP, but where do I configure the port of the cache server? [17:07:04] can someone tell me the significance of /etc/exports file? what will happen if i delete it? [17:07:36] would it affect the VM that is already running? [17:30:01] how can I add ssh key to use with git using powershell? The wiki article http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial#Add_your_SSH_key talks about using git bash which i dont have. [17:58:25] sakshi1: You could try if the same instructions work with PowerShell, they might [17:59:00] i tried but they don't [17:59:05] sakshi1: The important part is that there's a public key file somewhere, usually called id_rsa.pub, and you need to copy its contents and paste them into a Gerrit thing [17:59:23] yes i did that [18:15:03] OK then Gerrit should recognize your SSH key [18:25:44] sakshi1, so it fails to recognise your public key? [18:26:50] i tried but they don't know [18:27:08] sorry wrong place [18:27:32] krenair:no it doesn't [18:27:59] so... what goes wrong then? [18:30:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial#Add_your_SSH_key talks about adding ssh key to use with git..which i am not able to as i dont have git bash.I just wanted to know the powershell commands for doing the same [18:34:22] It feels so dumb to say this, but I have to generate a bloody certificate saying someone met requirements for some boogity boo thing. Within the bounds of mediawiki is there a way I can pass arguments and make a PDF happen? Or should I just make it in HTML and then print from a new window [18:35:30] Ulfr, uhh... [18:35:33] "make a PDF happen"? [18:35:39] you want to export an article as a PDF? [18:35:51] Krenair: No, I has a clipart [18:36:08] I need to insert the individual's name and allow them to print it [18:36:26] I am not sure how this is related to mediawiki. [18:36:51] It's mostly not, but you guys are smart and there could be an extension out or something [18:37:00] * Ulfr shrugs [18:38:55] The rest of the extension works great, but apparently you can't be taken seriously in the medical world if your users aren't able to print off clipart that says you did it [18:45:56] For reference I wasn't asking anyone to do stuff for me, just fishing for free opinions :D [19:02:57] Who has a bit of time to sort me out? :D [19:05:23] Rodejong: You'll almost certainly have better luck posing your question and seeing what folks say [19:07:31] I am about to upgrade from 1.15.4 to 1.24 but I have never done this. So my question, should I move all the files to a temporary map of should I leave them be and paste over it? And what about SQL, should I delete the tables and then import them again? [19:08:29] I'm feeling insecure about this :S [19:13:27] Anyone who can help me with guiding me through an upgrade? [19:16:20] Rodejong: There's a procedure for upgrading on the website [19:16:36] Best thing you can do foryourself is make sure you have backups of your backups and some backups to go with your backups [19:17:16] Only hint I'll toss is that you only need to move your settings, extensions, and uploaded images between MW versions [19:17:30] * Rodejong is confused. You mean make several backups? Or different kinds of backups? [19:19:53] I was exaggerating [19:20:04] You just need to make sure you have duplicates of anything you alter [19:20:20] Rodejong: ^ [19:20:27] Okay [19:21:18] I have downloaded all files, images and the sql wiki db [19:21:53] so I have them seperate, Will copy files I need to alter to seperate map [19:22:21] And then upload them together with all the new files right? [19:23:58] And when I have uploaded them, what do I need to do then ? [19:31:00] hey, I have a doubt is "$wgDefaultUserOptions['visualeditor-enable'] = 1;" different from "vagrant enable-role visualeditor" [19:31:03] ? [19:31:20] bd808 ? [19:38:41] Also, since I am behind a proxy, what is the significance of "$wgVisualEditorParsoidHTTPProxy"? Doesn't proxy-conf (plugin for vagrant) take care of proxy settings? [19:39:01] aharoni : would you be able to help out? [19:47:29] I am about to upgrade from 1.15.4 to 1.24 but I have never done this. Who want's to help me with this? I made back-ups of all files and images aswell of the SQL DB [20:13:26] !upgrading | Rodejong [20:13:27] Rodejong: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [20:14:35] Ok thanks [20:16:15] Raymond___ [20:16:29] You should put the decompressed tarball in a new and empty folder on your server. If you instead extract the new version directly on top of your old version, rather than in a new directory, you should follow #Back up existing files and the database: otherwise, if you've made any customizations you may erase them in a way that leaves you with no reference to re-apply them from. Extracting a ..................... [20:16:35] See that is usefull. [20:27:51] ankita-ks: sorry, I don't know [20:28:21] aharoni : that's okay. i encountered another problem. [20:29:02] I can not edit the LocalSettings.php file. I tried setting the permissions. and i still get permission denied. [20:29:25] I don't know if this is relevant but I have visualeditor role enabled. [20:29:32] Do you have any idea why? [20:31:13] I cannot think of anything except the obvious `sudo vim LocalSettings.php`. Maybe it have something to do with Vagrant, and I never tried Vagrant myself. [20:32:13] ankita-ks: which LocalSettings.php file exactly. In mw-vagrant there are several but most of them don't really do anything [20:32:47] bd808 : /vagrant/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php [20:33:00] aharoni : no, sudo doesn't help [20:33:03] I tried that [20:33:30] I am trying to setup VisualEditor extension. [20:33:51] vagrant roles enable visualeditor [20:33:55] yes. [20:34:02] So enabled that [20:34:20] But now I can not edit LocalSettings.php [20:34:28] change config by making files in vagrant/settings.d. See vagrant/settings.d/README for details [20:34:33] I'll check if the role has anything to do with that. [20:34:42] no, the role won't change that [20:35:02] but you shouldn't be editing $IP/LocalSettings.php under mw-vagrant [20:35:21] oh..why is that? [20:35:23] Instead add config in vagrant/settings.d [20:35:30] oh..okay [20:35:41] because mw-vagrant does weird stuff to setup a wiki farm [20:35:59] and $IP/LocalSettings.php is really a very small stub [20:36:11] it loads /vagrant/LocalSettings.php [20:36:34] which loads /vagrant/settings.d/wikis/CommonSettings.php [20:36:49] which loads a lot of other config created by the use and the various roles [20:36:56] *the user [20:37:22] also, I can just enable the role visual editor and I don't have to through the pains of doing all this : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor [20:37:31] *visualeditor [20:38:05] yes. The visualeditor role should take care of everything for you [20:38:10] okay [20:38:17] if it doesn't then that's a bug in the role [20:38:19] another question that I asked before [20:38:20] Also, since I am behind a proxy, what is the significance of "$wgVisualEditorParsoidHTTPProxy"? Doesn't proxy-conf (plugin for vagrant) take care of proxy settings? [20:39:08] ugh. It won't for that, but hopefully you won't need it and can leave it as false [20:39:14] okay [20:39:19] is "$wgDefaultUserOptions['visualeditor-enable'] = 1;" different from "vagrant enable-role visualeditor" [20:39:21] ? [20:39:28] yes [20:39:32] how? [20:40:39] The first is the turning VE on for all users in the wiki by default; the second is mw-vagrant specific configuration that installs and configures VE the next time that `vagrant provision` is run [20:41:50] The visualeditor role in mw-vagrant will set "$wgDefaultUserOptions['visualeditor-enable'] = 1;" and do a lot of other things [20:42:46] ankita-ks: "$wgVisualEditorParsoidHTTPProxy" can stay false. That tells VE how to find the parsoid server and will not need a proxy in mw-vagrant [20:43:16] VE will talk inside the Vagrant managed VM to a parsoid instance running in the same VM [20:43:24] so no proxy is needed [20:43:46] okay [20:44:22] so this one is a not much of an effort then. I=makes me wish i hadn't wasted 4 hours doing stupid stuff. [20:44:33] bd808 : thank you! :) [20:44:43] *it makes [20:45:16] ankita-ks: yw. sorry you didn't hit on the right instructions right off [20:46:53] That's okay. It's better than wasting a week on stupid proxy issues. [20:46:55] :P [21:15:37] I am going to seriously write a new version of section Foo of a document. Two variants: 1. Copy Foo to Foo_(old) and continue editing Foo. 2. Copy Foo to Foo_(new) and edit it, when it's finished move it to Foo. 1 or 2? [21:19:05] porton: Why keep the old version at all? [21:19:40] marktraceur: It should be kept DURING rewrite to facilitate rewriting process (because it may become broken in half-way of rewrite) [21:21:09] Sure, you could just copy it to a local text document. [21:21:23] marktraceur: I want to work openly at Wikiversity [21:21:43] Oh, in that case I'd use a page in your userspace. [21:21:57] porton: Copy the text there, work on your userspace copy, then move it into mainspace when you're done. [21:22:16] marktraceur: Why? [21:25:57] marktraceur: In my opinion this belongs to the project more than to my userpage [21:28:26] libreidea.org needs an essential functionality: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91644 - we need some php devs to make a fork/modif of voteNY [21:28:56] vev: have you talked to the maintainer of VoteNY? [21:30:00] Why LibreIdea when there is already Wikiversity research? [21:30:47] My project is at Wikiversity. Maybe move it to LibreIdea? https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces [21:31:56] libreidea is not for project [21:32:10] Hang on, let read that bug. [21:32:11] it s an idea box [21:32:50] legoktm: oui, ashley he does not answer [21:34:44] vev: well, you got Lcawte's attention :) [21:34:57] oh! [21:35:32] i'm sure it s not really complicate [21:36:04] Lcawte: it's not a bug it's a query [21:36:08] How to add new idea? (about my flight engine construction) [21:36:26] i need this to evaluate ideas subjectively & rationaly [21:36:37] porton: do it [21:36:48] vev: What button to press to make a new idea? [21:37:18] www.libreidea.org/w/index.php/flight engine construction of porton [21:37:21] for example [21:37:35] or you can search this title [21:37:49] and mediawiki ask to create this article [21:39:03] * vev dream : I would like to have to press a button to make a new idea [21:39:18] a big one [21:41:02] Why there is no English at http://www.libreidea.org/w/index.php/List_of_technologic_ideas ? [21:41:40] Where to put my idea in the list: at start or at end? [21:41:47] http://www.libreidea.org/w/index.php/Magnetic_flight_engine [21:45:21] at the top maybe [21:45:31] it's new so on top for me [21:50:00] porton: most titles are in english [23:16:13] Hey, i need some opinions. http://wiki.supaham.com/LimitedNametags one of my configuration entries were removed as of a new version of said software I just released, what would be the best way to "deprecate" it visually? It's the worlds..nametag-radius line.