[02:25:00] <Howie>	 Hi there. Does anybody know if there is a command which I can enter which will clear the cache on every page of my MediaWiki wiki?
[02:25:44] <Kajra>	 Hello all! I am wondering if there are any classes for aspiring wiki admins? My background is in math and I took some programming classes in college, so I manage basic stuff ok. But I want to be able to do and understand more. And the best way for me to learn is to talk to a teacher/colleague, not to read forums and help sections. Thank you!
[02:42:56] <Abulafia>	 I'm trying to remove "copyrightwarning2" that comes up with the Edit Summary fields on publishing. What's the best way to do this?
[02:45:57] <Abulafia>	 (Also {{SITENAME}} isn't being filled in. I'm sure these are newbie questions, but I'm having trouble finding good answers online.
[02:46:53] <Abulafia>	 (Though $wgSitename is set in LocalSettings.php)
[03:01:27] <Kajra>	 Hello all! I am wondering if there are any classes for aspiring wiki admins? My background is in math and I took some programming classes in college, so I manage basic stuff ok. But I want to be able to do and understand more. And the best way for me to learn is to talk to a teacher/colleague, not to read forums and help sections. Thank you!
[08:41:10] <svetlana>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Exporting_a_wiki_for_offline_use
[08:53:32] <Kostic_>	 Hey guys. I figured out what kind of problem I'm having. I have moved my wiki from one host to another one (followed the guide on mediawiki's wiki to the letter). For some reason, every file linked from "File:" namespace is missing (broken link). Anybody had that problem before?
[08:58:46] <svetlana>	 Kostic_: do you have them in the images subdirectory of your wiki directory?
[08:59:10] <Kostic_>	 svetlana: I do. All of the images and files are stored there.
[09:00:14] <Kostic_>	 Also, images and files are chowned by user apache and privileges are 755.
[09:00:50] <Kostic_>	 drwxr-xr-x+ 20 apache apache 4,0K 2015-03-09 15:40 images
[09:01:36] <Kostic_>	 drwxr-xr-x+ apache apache unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0 images
[09:02:17] <svetlana>	 try 777 images.
[09:04:21] <Kostic>	 Doesn't help.
[09:05:22] <Kostic>	 Every file that is linked without using File: syntax is available. But every file and image which is linked from File: namespace isn't. Link to the "file description page" is broken.
[09:06:02] <Kostic>	 I'm not quite sure If I explained it properly.
[09:07:46] <svetlana>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportImages.php comes to mind. But there is a more proper way to move a wiki, I'm sure, I just don't understand /what/ is happening.
[09:08:21] <Kostic>	 FixFileDescriptionPagesBot.php
[09:08:23] <Kostic>	 Sounds promising.
[09:15:15] <shubhangi_>	 Niharika: Hey. I wish to participate in outreacy this year. If i finish a microtask nd submit a proposal before the deadline, is it to late to get acknowledged ?
[09:15:36] <Niharika>	 shubhangi_: Not at all. :) 
[09:15:50] <shubhangi_>	 Niharika: i can continue working on bugs nd tasks after submitting proposal
[09:16:03] <qchn>	 What is the easiest way to shred pages which were already deleted so they won't occur if you search for something?
[09:16:32] <shubhangi_>	 Niharika: thanks a lot. I am on it
[09:16:33] <Niharika>	 shubhangi_: That's right. The decisions are made after all the proposals are submitted. You can keep making contributions.
[09:16:39] <Niharika>	 shubhangi_: All the best. 
[09:16:50] <shubhangi_>	 Niharika: thanks
[09:43:26] <Kostic>	 Is there a way to automatically rebuild File Description Pages?
[09:44:21] <svetlana>	 normally someone more competent than me would be around who knows where they were stored in the first place.
[09:45:22] <Kostic>	 It's probably a problem in the database. Somehow, file description pages were lost during the export/import or update.php of sql database. :|
[09:45:58] * Kostic reads about Mediawiki database tables.
[09:46:37] <svetlana>	 p858snake, good evening i think.
[10:17:49] <qchn>	 Anyone else having problems with $wgCookieExpiration?
[10:18:37] <qchn>	 I have to re-authenticate me after a few hours though I configured 12 hours 
[10:27:23] <aharoni>	 mobrovac: hi
[10:27:47] <aharoni>	 the description of the RestbaseUpdateJobs extension says that it's the RestbaseUpdateJobs extension :)
[10:28:00] <aharoni>	 Also, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RestbaseUpdateJobs doesn't exist.
[10:28:43] <mobrovac>	 :)
[10:28:46] <mobrovac>	 right
[10:28:57] <mobrovac>	 it's only internal to restbase
[10:29:09] <mobrovac>	 but you are right, we have to create the page and update the desc
[10:34:38] <mobrovac>	 aharoni: although, it should refer to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RESTBase
[10:34:41] <mobrovac>	 that page makes more sense
[10:34:59] <aharoni>	 Can you please update en.json and qqq.json?
[10:35:30] <mobrovac>	 sure, will do
[10:36:01] <aharoni>	 Also, I'm pretty sure that an Extension: page is an expectation that everybody has, even for projects that have their own pages, like ContentTranslation or VisualEditor.
[11:19:01] <Nemo_bis>	 It's actually better to have an extension page, however slim. 
[11:19:38] <Nemo_bis>	 Especially as the project page talks of high level concepts (as it should) and has no info whatsoever on implementations such as an extension.
[11:46:39] <sasan>	 hello, i my wiki: wiki.parsintelligent.com, i want to change the arow color in my sidebar to white. what should i do?
[12:10:39] <Lcawte>	 sasan: Recolour the image file that it uses for the arrow, upload it and modify the CSS to use your new recoloured image.
[12:13:39] <sasan>	 <Lcawte> i can not find the image file
[12:13:45] <sasan>	 could you help?
[12:14:00] <sasan>	 i add these chnages in mediawiki:common.css
[12:17:25] <Lcawte>	 sasan: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-Vector/blob/master/images/arrow-expanded.png 
[12:18:07] <Lcawte>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-Vector/blob/master/images/arrow-collapsed-ltr.png & https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-Vector/blob/master/images/arrow-collapsed-rtl.png
[12:22:07] <sasan>	 <Lcawte> thanks i got
[12:39:20] <ayushi>	 Hi. When I try running a php script on vagrant machine, I get https://dpaste.de/3yRZ , when my xdebug.so is orignially in /php5/20121212/ and not in /php5/20/ .. I cannot find where to change this value.
[12:50:43] <ayushi>	 Niharika: Could you help me with this please? 
[12:52:57] <Niharika>	 ayushi: Nope, sorry. I don't have a clue about it. 
[12:54:42] <ayushi>	 Niharika: Okay okay. I'll try to figure this out :)
[13:04:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ayushi: no idea about the specifics, for stzuff like this, i usually just create a symlink...
[13:10:56] <carchaias>	 Is it somehow possible to overlay one Image above another? In my case I have an SVG wich is some kind of a sceme and ther a 16 states that each has its own layer in Inkscape. So I dont want to upload 16 diffrent Images.
[13:28:06] <carchaias>	 To be precise: Of course I would have to upload 16 images for the states, but I'd like to have the base sheme one time .
[13:34:30] <stangeland>	 Is there a good WYSIWYG editor for mediawiki i can install ?
[13:35:16] <Niharika>	 stangeland: Visual Editor? 
[13:35:37] <stangeland>	 Niharika, yeah
[13:35:59] <comets>	 he said "good" :P
[13:36:26] <stangeland>	 i prefer some sort of markup language.....but this is not for me...its for stupid users
[13:36:41] <stangeland>	 they only understand wordlike interface :(
[13:37:02] <Niharika>	 comets: I find VE good. :P stangeland, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor I meant this.
[13:37:39] <stangeland>	 Niharika, is there a demo of it somewhere?
[13:37:55] <Niharika>	 stangeland: Sure! Have an account on Wikipedia?
[13:38:06] <stangeland>	 Niharika, no hehe :)
[13:38:19] <Niharika>	 stangeland: Well, make one.
[13:39:25] <stangeland>	 now i have
[13:39:35] <MatmaRex>	 you can try it out anonymously too
[13:39:52] <MatmaRex>	 (just not on the english wikipedia, because they had it disabled)
[13:40:20] <stangeland>	 if i go and try and edit a page i just get the normal textbox
[13:40:50] <MatmaRex>	 stangeland: on the english wikipedia, you need to jump through some hoops, like i said
[13:40:53] <MatmaRex>	 it's in preferences somewhere
[13:40:57] <MatmaRex>	 try it here, for example: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning?veaction=edit
[13:41:23] <MatmaRex>	 (just don't save the page if you're just experimenting - although contributions are welcome :D)
[13:41:38] <stangeland>	 ahhh nice and i can insert table
[13:42:26] <MatmaRex>	 also: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning?veaction=edit
[13:42:28] <MatmaRex>	 bah
[13:42:31] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test?veaction=edit
[14:24:16] <qchn>	 If you enable wikiExpiration, you'll get a cookie named "my_wiki_session" with the content, e.g "noasj252ag4qkdtnagqa87qom2"
[14:24:36] <qchn>	 Can anybody second that?
[14:24:41] <qchn>	 Coz I guess it's buggy for me
[14:33:18] <Abulafia>	 I'm trying to remove "copyrightwarning2" that comes up with the Edit Summary fields on publishing. What's the best way to do this? Also {{SITENAME}} isn't being filled in though $wgSitename is set in LocalSettings.php. I'm sure these are newbie questions, but I'm having trouble finding good answers online.
[15:17:28] <Abulafia>	 re: Sitename I see now that it's a current bug (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62695). Any advice on copyrightwarning2 is still welcome though :)
[15:24:18] <rits>	 hello i am installing the translate extension through http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Language_Extension_Bundle#Update_database_tables but at this step when i restart the installation i get this error /var/www/html/core/includes/MagicWord.php: Error: invalid magic word 'noexternallanglinks'
[15:24:33] <Glaisher>	 Abulafia: can you create copyrightwarning2 page with "-" as content?
[15:24:37] <Glaisher>	 just the -
[15:26:20] <Glaisher>	 rits: is the extension version compatible with mediawiki core version?
[15:27:34] <rits>	 the mediawwiki core version shown is 1.25 but the extension is compatible with 1.23 and 1.24
[15:28:33] <rits>	 but this is the latest version of the extension 
[15:32:45] <rits>	 the version is 1.25alpha of mediawiki and the extension is compatible only with 1.23.x and 1.24.x so i would not be able to work on this?
[16:45:52] <christi3k>	 Anyone have experience with this extension? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AWS
[17:34:34] <sss_>	 qgil: Hello, I wanted to ask one thing. Last year I applied at mediawiki for GSoC and my proposal also get selected but due to conflict with other org. I choose the proposal of other org. Can I apply for that project this year? And it is one of the listed ideas of this year.
[17:55:07] <sss_>	 is someone around who can clarify this?
[18:06:10] <andre__>	 sss_, it's a bit abstract, but could you clarify why you think you could not apply for that project this year?
[18:06:29] <andre__>	 (might even be a general GSoC question, and not Wikimedia specific?)
[18:07:52] <sss_>	 andre__: it may be possible that mentors will think that last year I didn't choose their project or this year I might do the same, that's why
[18:08:59] <sss_>	 since one of the involving org was wikimedia so I think better to ask this question here.
[18:09:10] <andre__>	 sss_: if it bothers you, why don't you explain your reasons last year when talking to the mentors or in the application, instead of allowing people to make various, potentially wrong, interpretations? :P
[18:09:55] <andre__>	 (that's just the first blunt thought I have)
[18:12:14] <sss_>	 andre__: I clarified it last year. It was my first year so was not sure about getting even 1. But ultimately need to choose only one
[18:13:31] <Nemo_bis>	 sss_: it's unlikely to be a problem.
[18:14:29] <Nemo_bis>	 Of course it's possible that this year the mentor has other priorities, or whatever. Many things can go wrong, with higher probability than someone having a bad feeling about your choice last year.
[18:15:13] <sss_>	 that's what I wanted to make sure, whether it may happen or not
[18:53:13] <JosefAssad>	 Hi. I have an issue git cloning mediawiki. It looks like this: http://pastebin.com/U3m7c5sE . Any pointers?
[19:21:55] <JosefAssad>	 actually don't mind me. Turns out the 4.3.23 virtualbox breaks NAT and my connection is unstable, so git barfs
[19:26:55] <vev>	 libreidea.org needs an essential functionality: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91644 - we need some php devs to make a fork/modif of voteNY
[19:45:49] <e_totientz>	 Hi
[20:00:41] <vev>	 how can i dl the source https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VoteNY
[20:05:15] <Nemo_bis>	 vev: did you try clicking the "download" link? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/VoteNY
[20:05:42] <vev>	 oh ty
[20:05:53] <vev>	 i could not do it again
[21:11:10] <vev>	 libreidea.org needs an essential functionality: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91644 - we need some php devs to make a fork/modif of voteNY extension
[21:25:32] <ankita-ks>	 hi
[21:25:47] <ankita-ks>	 I have enabled the role visual editor in vagrant
[21:26:09] <ankita-ks>	 but i cannot edit using visual editor in any of the wikis
[21:26:28] <ankita-ks>	 any clue why that could happen? 
[21:26:33] <ankita-ks>	 aharoni ?
[21:27:17] <Platonides>	 vev, are votes expected to be kept private?
[21:27:50] <vev>	 right now i ll say no
[21:27:57] <vev>	 what do you think?
[21:29:16] <Platonides>	 private votes could make it harder to detect abuse
[21:32:51] <ankita-ks>	 bd808 : could you help out with that?
[21:33:28] <bd808>	 ankita-ks: can you edit as wikitext?
[21:33:42] <bd808>	 are there errors in the log files?
[21:33:47] <ankita-ks>	 do you mean edit-source? 
[21:34:12] <ankita-ks>	 That I can.
[21:36:03] <ankita-ks>	 bd808 : which log file exactly?
[21:36:52] <bd808>	 ankita-ks: mediawiki and parsoid I guess. Your report is a bit vague at this point.
[21:37:16] <bd808>	 Is VE not an editing option? Is the UI not loading? Are saves failing?
[21:37:26] <ankita-ks>	 The UI is not loading.
[21:37:36] <ankita-ks>	 I click on "edit" and nothing happens.
[21:38:55] <bd808>	 Have you looked for javascript errors in your browser?
[21:40:06] <vev>	 Platonides: was what i was thinking
[21:40:23] <vev>	 and i want vote to be modify
[21:40:29] <vev>	 we can change our mind
[21:40:48] <ankita-ks>	 How do i check that? 
[21:41:41] <ankita-ks>	 bd808 : When I open this https://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3rdfebFF&veaction=edit , i can edit using visualeditor
[21:42:04] <ankita-ks>	 but not in my local setup
[21:42:59] <bd808>	 ankita-ks: Sure. I'm not questioning if your browser is capable of running VE. You need to determine what is wrong in your mw-vagrant setup that is keeping VE from working
[21:43:16] <ankita-ks>	 Can you suggest where do i start looking?
[21:45:41] <bd808>	 Your browser js console log, /vagrant/logs/*.log
[21:46:40] <ankita-ks>	 okay
[21:46:44] <bd808>	 I'm not sure where parsoid logs by default in mw-vagrant
[21:46:59] <mobrovac>	 there are none :(
[21:47:05] <bd808>	 mobrovac: :(
[21:47:14] <mobrovac>	 it expects logstash to be there
[21:47:17] <ankita-ks>	 If this is any relevant, I found this in mediawiki-exception.log : https://gist.github.com/ankita-kumari/e51a508a309239b905bc
[21:47:20] <mobrovac>	 for some reason
[21:47:20] <bd808>	 you can get logs is you enable the elk role to setup logstash
[21:47:23] <mobrovac>	 laziness probably
[21:47:52] <bd808>	 ankita-ks: that looks like a problem for sure
[21:48:30] <mobrovac>	 ankita-ks: have you vagrant git-update -ed?
[21:48:35] <mobrovac>	 (recently)
[21:49:01] <ankita-ks>	 a few days back i did that.
[21:49:04] <ankita-ks>	 Should I again?
[21:49:21] <mobrovac>	 won't hurt
[21:49:30] <ankita-ks>	 let me try that
[21:49:45] <mobrovac>	 there are plenty of changes in VE going on now, so you might have hit git-update at a wrong time
[21:50:14] <bd808>	 that module path looks weird...
[21:50:35] <bd808>	 why is it missing "extensions/VisualEditor/" ?
[21:51:04] <mobrovac>	 good point
[21:51:33] <mobrovac>	 ah, maybe the mw-vagrant repo itself hasn't been updated in quite a while?
[21:51:44] <mobrovac>	 might be wrong puppet mods
[21:52:08] <bd808>	 ankita-ks is at most a week or so out of date there
[21:52:29] <mobrovac>	 ah
[21:52:37] <bd808>	 we debugged the initial vagrant up recently
[21:52:49] <bd808>	 which is why I got pinged :)
[21:53:12] <mobrovac>	 :)
[22:04:41] <ankita-ks>	 okay so i updated the repo and i ran vagrant git-update 
[22:05:04] <ankita-ks>	 there were some failures : https://gist.github.com/ankita-kumari/703a55c8c58f42275ee0
[22:05:32] <ankita-ks>	 I ran a vagrant provision 
[22:05:40] <ankita-ks>	 but the problems seems to persist.
[22:06:02] <ankita-ks>	 mobrovac , bd808 ?
[22:06:31] <bd808>	 ankita-ks: more problems with your proxy?
[22:06:56] <bd808>	 hmmm... permission denied
[22:07:05] <ankita-ks>	 hmm..but then why would it work for some and not for others if it was proxy issue?
[22:07:12] <mobrovac>	 i don't even see VE in the list
[22:07:26] <ankita-ks>	 It said VE was already updated.
[22:07:30] <ankita-ks>	 no errors there
[22:24:57] <ankita-ks>	 bd808 , mobrovac : in the error log it is looking for the file "ve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget.noscript.css" in the wrong location. 
[22:26:32] <ankita-ks>	 The file is present but in a different location : http://imgur.com/XvBnyKz
[22:27:19] <ankita-ks>	 I think there is some variable in the file ResourceLoaderFileModule.php which sets the base path of some sort which is wrong.
[22:27:22] <ankita-ks>	 Looking further.
[22:27:41] <ankita-ks>	 Please let me know if you have any further insights into this.
[22:27:56] <ankita-ks>	 aharoni : do you have any idea?
[22:32:21] <ankita-ks>	 https://gist.github.com/ankita-kumari/4254e114390795d97d18
[22:33:07] <ankita-ks>	 so i need to figure out how $localPath gets it's value and then how to correct that. Any help would be welcome. :)
[22:40:40] <vev>	 libreidea.org needs an essential functionality: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91644 - we need some php devs to make a fork/modif of voteNY extension - #libreidea
[23:40:01] <justlooking>	 test
[23:46:15] <ankita-ks>	 How do I find the value of $wgExtensionAssetsPath ? 
[23:46:44] <ankita-ks>	 bd808 ? 
[23:47:43] <bd808>	 mwscript eval.php wiki -- and then type echo $wgExtensionAssetsPath at the prompt
[23:48:27] <ankita-ks>	 bd808 : thanks!