[00:01:01] <sorryforwastingy>	 I am confused about how to setup Extension:ExtensionDistributor. I have followed the instructions per the content's page but get "Please configure $wgExtDistList and $wgExtDistArchiveAPI" when accessing the "Download Mediawiki extension" link on special:specialpages
[00:02:00] <sorryforwastingy>	 i have set the variable $wgExtDistList. How would I do this? It seems like sufficient documentation is lacking.
[00:02:26] <sorryforwastingy>	 sorry, have YET to set the variable $wgExtDistList
[00:02:40] <Krenair>	 you are setting up ExtensionDistributor yourself?
[00:03:19] <sorryforwastingy>	 correct
[00:03:34] <Krenair>	 it's intended for use on mediawiki.org. are you planning to help develop it or something?
[00:04:17] <sorryforwastingy>	 no, I'm sorry I interpreted it as a way of updating my existing extension more efficiently.
[00:04:55] <sorryforwastingy>	 on my own wiki
[00:10:05] <sorryforwastingy>	 could you refer me to something that would help me automate the extension updating process on my own wiki?
[00:27:51] <sorryforwastingy>	 Reading further documentation, It seems like composer is the utility I am looking for.  But many extensions don't support the Composer process just yet?
[00:32:39] <Jav>	 devunt: hello are u here?
[02:13:55] <knightsamar>	 Hi,I want to develop something which will control the appearance of links on a Wiki page, both external links and links to other wiki pages. 
[02:14:02] <knightsamar>	 Can this be done using skins ?
[02:14:45] <knightsamar>	 I just want all anchor tags to be disabled and enabled by a control switch kinda thing :)
[02:15:55] <Krenair>	 knightsamar, anchor tags?
[02:16:25] <knightsamar>	 Krenair: I mean hyperlinks.
[02:16:44] <knightsamar>	 I want to control all intra-wiki and external links ona wiki page.
[02:16:48] <Krenair>	 ... why would you want this? :/
[02:18:25] <knightsamar>	 Krenair: The idea is a distraction-free reading extension which allows one to control whether all inter-wiki and external links work or not. They would be disabled temporarily or shown in a different style which makes them not be a distraction when reading a wiki page.
[02:19:59] <knightsamar>	 so how do I go on doing this ? Would this be doable using a Skin type of extension or something else ?
[08:12:14] <reza1615>	 I set MediaWiki:Titleblacklist to stop making usernames with more reapting words like fooooooooo
[08:12:27] <reza1615>	 I added (.{2,})\1<newaccountonly>
[08:13:04] <reza1615>	 to stop making new users with more than 4 repeated characters after eachother
[08:13:11] <reza1615>	 but it doesn't work 
[08:13:16] <reza1615>	 do you have any idea?
[08:49:12] <Kostic>	 How to debug a empty page when trying to install a new wiki with mw-config/index.php ?
[08:56:46] <Kostic>	 Managed to install with maintenance/install.php script. :)
[11:14:09] <Kostic>	 Can I create a user group which would be able to read just certain pages in vanilla MediaWiki (without the use of extensions)?
[11:17:27] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Kostic: i don't think so. in vanilla, you can redrict editing per namespace, but not reading.
[11:17:33] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 *restrict
[11:20:13] <Kostic>	 What I need to do is to have a group of users which can read only specific pages but not anything else.
[11:20:43] <Kostic>	 Is my use case supported by default MW?
[11:21:07] <Kostic>	 Ah, ok.
[11:21:22] <Kostic>	 So, the solution is to have a separate wiki?
[11:24:47] <MC8>	 Kostic: there are a couple of extensions that allow per-namespace read permissions, but I think they also come with large disclaimers; see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_certain_specific_pages
[11:26:24] <Kostic>	 I tried to use a solution of Lockdown + MW 1.24 for a internal wiki I need to manage and it worked great... Until I realised that VisualEditor and that extension do not work together. And I developed a bit of hatred towards extensions that manage permissions in MW.
[11:26:26] <Kostic>	 :)
[11:27:43] <MC8>	 mediawiki really isn't designed for it, that's why :)
[11:27:59] <Kostic>	 Thanks anyway... I'll probably create a separate wiki with different users and content. It may be painful in the beggining but I consider that it will be less painfull in the longterm.
[11:28:06] <Kostic>	 Yea... I understand.
[11:28:24] <Kostic>	 The problem is that my employer wants a Wikipedia with UNIX style permissions.
[11:28:32] <Kostic>	 :|
[11:28:48] <MC8>	 there are ways to share user accounts across wikis, though
[11:29:30] <Kostic>	 I do not want to have the same user table betwen all wikis. Some wikis will have one set of users, other ones different users.
[11:29:40] <Kostic>	 So I am not able to use one user table for all of them.
[11:30:48] <Kostic>	 To get the idea, I have (for now) an internal and public wiki for every sector in my firm. Internal has restrictions on read/write/create account and public on write/create account.
[11:31:56] <Kostic>	 And I will probably need to have a "collaborator" wiki because "collaborators" aren't allowed to see all of the info in the internal wiki but the info is sensitive enough so it can't stay in the public wiki.
[11:32:06] <Kostic>	 Ah.
[11:32:10] <Kostic>	 Idea.
[11:32:33] <Kostic>	 Can I restrict specific namespace in my public wiki to only logged in users (read/write)?
[11:32:46] <Kostic>	 And the rest of namespace to stay public?
[11:33:57] <Kostic>	 "you can resrict editing per namespace, but not reading."
[11:34:19] <Kostic>	 Nevermind my question. I forgot DanielK_WMDE_ already answered it.
[11:50:24] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Kostic: with Lockdown, you can... I wonder why VE wouldn't work with it.
[11:51:22] <Kostic>	 I know.
[11:51:32] <Kostic>	 But VisualEditor is very, very important to my users.
[13:13:44] <tonythomas>	 Niharika: is there any official example of GSoC/OPW proposal available somewhere so that students can get an idea on how exactly theirs should look like ?
[13:14:20] <Niharika>	 tonythomas: Official as in, official by MW?
[13:14:46] <tonythomas>	 Niharika: yup :) ( is there something like that ? ) 
[13:15:03] * Niharika checks
[13:15:44] <Fiona>	 andre__ or qgil might know.
[13:16:13] <Niharika>	 tonythomas: There's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Application_template but not an official example. 
[13:16:24] <qgil>	 Niharika knows  :)
[13:16:59] <Niharika>	 qgil: There ain't any example, right? :P
[13:17:16] <andre__>	 People could also look at past examples: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=OPW+proposal&fulltext=Search&ns2=1&ns106=1&profile=advanced
[13:17:23] <Niharika>	 Oh we do.
[13:17:30] <Niharika>	 tonythomas: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Iqk8MTix2CN1pAgqhZqhefKTwiA7P73zQH9N46lvyB0
[13:17:32] <qgil>	 Niharika, tonythomas no, but.... argh, andre__ was faster
[13:17:36] <tonythomas>	 ha :) and since its the first time with phabricator, it would be good if we have a phab copy 
[13:17:58] <andre__>	 what is a "phab copy"? :)
[13:18:37] <tonythomas>	 andre__: a proposal task in phabricator ? The participants should post in phabricator, right ?
[13:18:49] <Niharika>	 tonythomas: Right.
[13:19:12] <andre__>	 One could use templates in links to create a task in Phab: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Passing_certain_values_in_the_task_creation_URL
[13:19:29] <qgil>	 tonythomas, but what matters is the content, and we are expecting the same type of application now with Phabricator than before with MediaWiki
[13:20:57] <tonythomas>	 true. a template is enough, I guess ( helped me great last year  :) )
[13:21:09] <qgil>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2015 links to the official GSoC Student Guide, which includes  http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch008_writing-a-proposal/
[13:22:21] <tonythomas>	 okey. thanks :) 
[13:32:06] <hep>	 Hello. I recently upgraded to 1.24.1 and now I have noticed that sortable tables an collapsible text are broken. How can I get these fixed?
[14:08:46] <wmat>	 hep: you likely need to upgrade the Lua Modules as well
[14:48:23] <yousneezeulose>	 Whenever I load any mobile page on my site it fills the skin properly and then discards the changes in a flash.  My mobile view css is located here: https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.css
[14:48:42] <yousneezeulose>	 does this have to do with the extension for the mobile view or my css document that i linked you to?
[15:01:30] <hep>	 wmat: Lua Modules? OK I will look that up.
[15:04:31] <hep>	 wmat: So is it a specific Extension? I migrated all the extensions that come with Mediawiki. 
[15:05:43] <hep>	 wmat: The Lua Scribunto Extension is required but not part of the standard package?
[15:07:25] <yousneezeulose>	 Mobile front-end
[15:07:38] <yousneezeulose>	 I think it has to do with my ordering of elements in the css file
[15:08:02] <yousneezeulose>	 grabbing what I want and then replacing it by the end of the file
[15:08:20] <yousneezeulose>	 altho I fail to see why it is replacing it
[15:08:29] <yousneezeulose>	 i am no css whiz btw
[15:09:59] <yousneezeulose>	 when you load that link i sent notice how most of the screen turns to the grayish color for less than a second]
[15:10:29] <yousneezeulose>	 using the mobile view of the site i should clarify
[15:25:03] <wmat>	 hep: perhaps it's just the JS that's broken
[15:25:30] <wmat>	 hep: are your tables using class="wikitable sortable"?
[15:27:13] <hep>	 wmat: Yes. 
[15:27:45] <hep>	 I looked in the src code and the javascript for everything is there.
[15:27:57] <hep>	 Its just not rendering
[15:28:16] <wmat>	 hep: if you look at your Special:Preferences page, is there a row of tabs across the page?
[15:30:23] <yousneezeulose>	 any ideas?
[15:51:05] <hep>	 wmat: No. I have no tabs.
[15:51:09] <hep>	 brb
[15:51:32] <hugomelo>	 hi everyone, I am having a trouble regarding issue: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58269
[15:51:42] <hugomelo>	 I get this error: Notice: Uncommitted DB writes (transaction from DatabaseBase::query (LCStoreDB::get))
[15:52:20] <hugomelo>	 the issue is on the request account page. I have just configured it (confirmAccount extension)
[15:52:48] <hugomelo>	 has somebody a clue about it?
[15:55:19] <hep>	 wmat: What does that mean? What do the tabs indicate?
[16:00:17] <wmat>	 hep: that's just how I quickly check if JS is broken
[16:00:36] <hep>	 OK. Then it must be broken 
[16:01:07] <wmat>	 hep: are you using any Gadgets, like HotCat?
[16:01:16] <hep>	 No. 
[16:01:59] <wmat>	 hep: start disabling extensions until you find the culprit
[16:02:57] <wmat>	 hep: and make sure your extension versions match the MW version
[16:03:02] <hep>	 OK.
[16:03:04] <hep>	 Thanks
[16:03:09] <wmat>	 good luck
[17:32:11] <yousneezeulose>	 why is my .collapsible-block element on https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/Main_Page in mobile so misaligned?
[18:36:13] <gleki>	 Hello, what is the most active pdf export engine that supports floating thumbnails atm?
[21:46:21] <hypergrove>	 could someone take a quick look at a mw 1.25 server i'm trying to bring up -- http://52.10.62.76:8192/Special:Version
[21:46:38] <hypergrove>	 it's got a real problem that's hopefully an easy fix
[21:47:16] <Vulpix>	 it looks funny lol
[21:47:23] <hypergrove>	 yes!
[21:48:03] <hypergrove>	 i am bringing up the server using install.php, and received no errors
[21:48:46] <hypergrove>	 oh i know something to try - using the LocalSettings generated for that wiki
[21:48:49] <hypergrove>	 brb
[21:48:57] <Vulpix>	 it's strange, because even qqx pseudo lang has that problem http://52.10.62.76:8192/Special:Version?uselang=qqx
[21:50:24] <hypergrove>	 Vulpix, I am using the LocalSettings,php generated by install.php
[21:50:54] <thedj>	 looks like a problem with the charset of the content in the database
[21:52:04] <hypergrove>	 thedj, tell me more about this! I was thinking it was blobs not handled correctly
[21:52:07] <thedj>	 or in this case, perhaps for you php setup or something
[21:52:14] <Vulpix>	 or files... shouldn't happen with uselang=qqx
[21:52:34] <hypergrove>	 qqx is new to me what is it please
[21:52:38] <thedj>	 Vulpix: hmm, that ight be. that all the php files got mangled
[21:52:57] <thedj>	 hypergrove: qqx shows the keys of the translatable messages
[21:53:31] <hypergrove>	 thx - are you saying my problem is in php files getting mangled?
[21:54:02] <thedj>	 we don't know exactly
[21:54:09] <thedj>	 but something sure is getting mangled :)
[21:54:21] <hypergrove>	 hehe let's unmangle this mangled mess!
[21:54:51] <Vulpix>	 hypergrove: how did you upload MediaWiki files to the server?
[21:55:17] <hypergrove>	 untarred from git clone on the core iirc
[21:56:53] <hypergrove>	 it seems to me the php codebase is okay, otherwise diff errors would occur... I will set up phpinfo()
[21:58:09] <hypergrove>	 http://52.10.62.76:8192/phpinfo.php
[22:01:01] <Vulpix>	 apparently, only the hardcoded text is being mangled. Not generated HTML nor (messages) from qqx
[22:01:17] <Vulpix>	 so basically, everything that is being parsed?
[22:03:16] <hypergrove>	 fwiw https://dpaste.de/0DWN shows the tables' status
[22:08:22] <hypergrove>	 and https://dpaste.de/mshd shows the engines loaded and character sets
[22:13:01] <Vulpix>	 hypergrove: try disabling opcache (apparently you have it enabled)
[22:13:28] <hypergrove>	 ok need to find it
[22:14:16] <Vulpix>	 hypergrove: /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/05-opcache.ini :P
[22:14:40] <hypergrove>	 $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE;
[22:14:48] <hypergrove>	 ok will check that
[22:16:17] <Vulpix>	 MediaWiki can't control opcache, only object cache. Opcache is done at a lower level. It's like compiling PHP code for fastest execution or something like that
[22:17:06] <hypergrove>	 understand . now deleted
[22:18:48] <hypergrove>	 tried to print_r($GLOBALS); in LocalSettings.phop but it didnt yield anything
[22:23:03] <hypergrove>	 Vulpix, just earlier i was installing 1.20 version and got the same problems.... may help you to know that no templates were being parsed
[22:23:21] <hypergrove>	 this is all a new server at AWS
[22:25:46] <oozbooz>	 I was looking into installing wyswyg plugin for the lastest media wiki, but requirement spec php5.5, mysql 5.6 and even worse .. httpd 2.47
[22:26:28] <oozbooz>	 is there more widely adopted way to enable wyswyg editor?
[22:27:07] <hypergrove>	 vulpix, i just disabled all extensions, and starting to look normal
[22:27:49] <Vulpix>	 oh, wow, strange
[22:28:20] <hypergrove>	 so its a prblem with an extension.... i'll let you know the culprit because it's pretty bad what it does!!!
[22:29:13] <Vulpix>	 yeah, I'm interested in knowing which one is
[22:35:14] <hypergrove>	 Vulpix, widgets 1.0
[22:35:51] <hypergrove>	 Vulpix, widgets 1.0 is the culprit
[22:36:25] <Vulpix>	 you may try to download it again. Maybe it has something strange in it, or a file codification problem
[22:37:16] <hypergrove>	 1.1 is out will do
[22:46:48] <hypergrove>	 Vulpix, widgets 1.1 is loaded and working fine -- sorry for not having dropped all extensions first, before buggin' ya. thanks huge to you.
[22:47:01] <Vulpix>	 no problem :)
[23:06:02] <hypergrove>	 skin options are not being shown in preferences... I have two skins enabled (Vector and Tweeki).... how can i get these listed as options? thanks
[23:18:33] <hypergrove>	 appears that skin autodiscovery is not working with a ln -s skindirectory
[23:21:44] <hypergrove>	 nope that's not it (no change when i eliminated the link to a global skins directory) .... I have no "skins" section in my Preferences.... why?
[23:28:51] <hypergrove>	 ok installing bootstrap. Immediately get: Expected an accessible /var/www/vendor/twitter/bootstrap path
[23:29:27] <hypergrove>	 i have donwloaded chameleon using composer
[23:38:32] <hypergrove>	 chameleon is still telling me "Expected an accessible /var/www/vendor/twitter/bootstrap" .... i have chgd permissions to 777 along the whole path... why else could i be getting this error please?
[23:39:00] <hypergrove>	 it
[23:40:48] <hypergrove>	 this problem is being flagged in Hooks/SetupAfterCache.php::isReadable() looks like