[01:02:30] mcon: did someone answer your question from before? [01:02:56] Yaron: no. [01:03:03] Okay. [01:03:40] mcon: have you seen this page? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#Changing_group_permissions [01:08:02] Yaron: yes; I cannot understand how to set things for discussions pages. (among other things); my current tentative is: [01:08:03] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [01:08:05] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createpage'] = false; [01:08:06] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [01:08:08] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['createpage'] = false; [01:08:09] $wgAutopromote['emailconfirmed'] = APCOND_EMAILCONFIRMED; [01:08:11] $wgImplicitGroups[] = 'emailconfirmed'; [01:08:12] $wgGroupPermissions['emailconfirmed']['edit'] = true; [01:08:14] $wgGroupPermissions['writer']['edit'] = true; [01:08:15] $wgGroupPermissions['writer']['createpage'] = true; [01:08:17] But I'm unsure it will do what I want [01:08:34] Oh, okay. Well, you should test it, of course. [01:08:43] mcon: do not paste [01:08:55] do people seriously not read the topic [01:09:53] mcon: the namespace-specific thing is trickier; I think it would require an extension, like Lockdown. [01:09:59] !e Lockdown [01:09:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown [01:10:12] c: Oops, sorry; I thought a few lines were ok. should I use Pastebin? [01:10:21] yeah pastebin is your friend [01:10:35] Too late now, of course. [01:11:16] do I need to do anything special for MediaWiki:Common.css to be loaded? [01:11:27] DeeJayTwo: Probably not. [01:11:34] It looks like it's not.. I'm trying to have alternating rows and it doesn't work. [01:11:39] If you're using a weird custom skin, it may not load. [01:11:45] Did you bypass your local browser cache? [01:11:52] ctrl-f5 [01:12:01] Yeah, maybe ctrl-shift-f5. [01:12:11] Is your wiki public? Link? [01:12:21] If it's not caching, it's probably a silly typo in CSS. [01:12:58] CSS is loaded via load.php in the HTML page source. You should be able to access the resource in a Web browser to verify what version you're getting. [01:12:58] it's private. [01:13:13] You can also add a test rule. [01:13:21] The skin is vector [01:13:31] Like "body { background-color: red !important; }" or similar. To make sure you're getting the latest version. [01:13:49] Vector should load Common.css. [01:14:05] Do I just paste it in? [01:14:11] as if it was wiki code? [01:14:24] Yaron: Uhm, I'll need to study it. Thanks for the pointer. Now I'm too tired (it's 2:13 AM here). Thanks again. [01:14:51] Sure. [01:14:52] DeeJayTwo: The page "MediaWiki:Common.css" accepts normal CSS, yes. [01:15:04] And the page "MediaWiki:Common.js" accepts normal JavaScript. [01:15:15] There are also skin-specific pages (e.g., "MediaWiki:Vector.css"). [01:16:56] Fiona: I took the Common.css from wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [01:17:01] I just copy/pasted it.. [01:17:15] strangely, the wikipedia.org shows it as preformated from top to bottom [01:17:23] That's irrelevant. [01:17:29] on my instance, only some parts are preformatted [01:17:30] Wikipedia has a syntax highlighting extension installed. [01:17:35] !geshi [01:17:35] There are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [01:17:46] ok thanks [01:17:51] so that's not an issue [01:18:19] DeeJayTwo: So did you add the alternance class to your HTML? [01:18:35] I assume it's the /* ALTERNANCE */ section you're talking about? [01:18:42] So you'd need something like... [01:18:48] [01:18:54] Or {| class="alternance" [01:18:55] I think. [01:19:15] oh I think it needs Common.js too which I didn't copy [01:19:32] I don't think so. [01:19:38] Maybe. [01:19:38] yes I added the alternance class in my table [01:19:45] but it doesn't alternate.. [01:20:04] Did you check the load.php ULR? [01:20:06] URL * [01:20:12] Do you see the CSS in a separate browser tab? [01:21:22] For example, fr.wikipedia.org loads from https://bits.wikimedia.org/fr.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=site&only=styles&skin=vector&* [01:21:31] You should have a similar load.php line. [01:25:07] you mean loadin load.php instead of index.php? [01:25:21] or looking into what's loaded from index.php? [01:26:29] [01:27:11] Yeah, do you see your custom CSS there? [01:30:03] I tried to call it directly from my browser address bar [01:30:08] and got this: /* This file is the Web entry point for MediaWiki's ResourceLoader: . In this request, no modules were requested. Max made me put this here. */ [01:30:29] I just kept http://.... [01:31:00] Change "amp;" to & [01:31:12] You should be able to load actual CSS from that URL. [01:34:03] Fiona: : got it [01:34:11] no "Common.css" nor "alternate" [01:34:18] but a big load of css stuff appears... [01:34:28] alternance ? [01:34:37] no "alter" [01:34:42] There may be another load.php reference in your HTML page source. [01:34:49] There are usually multiple for JS and CSS. [01:35:25] oh yeah.. 7 [01:35:47] One of those is loading MediaWiki:Common.css hopefully. [01:36:02] You can change "debug=false" in the URL to "debug=true" to see the un-minified (expanded) version. [01:38:07] one loads nothing [01:38:12] is it possible? [01:38:38] load.php?debug=false&lang=fr&modules=site&only=styles&skin=vector&* [01:41:51] That should load Common.css. [01:41:59] Are you getting a completely blank page? [01:42:12] yeah [01:42:16] and one has this: [01:42:20] throw new Error("JavaScript parse error: Parse error: Missing ; before statement in file 'MediaWiki:Common.js' on line 1403");mw.loader.state({"site":"ready"}); [01:42:43] Sounds like a separate issue. [01:42:53] A completely blank page is a bit worrying. Can you check the HTTP headers? [01:42:57] To see if it's a 200 or a 500? [01:44:15] oh good, fixed the javascript thing...there was an uncommented comment at the end.. [01:44:18] now it's ok [01:44:22] ok [01:44:32] checking the blank page thing [01:46:23] ok [01:46:32] You should have content similar to https://bits.wikimedia.org/fr.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=site&only=styles&skin=vector&* [01:46:41] You can try lang=en? [01:46:41] it servers a empty header [01:46:42] (head) [01:46:47] Empty? [01:46:54] with just div class="linegutter-backdrop" [01:46:56] into it.. [01:47:03] Like an error page? [01:47:22] could tell you.. [01:47:26] it's blank [01:47:29] but there is html.. [01:47:42] couldn't tell you.. [01:48:32] oh sorry.. [01:48:37] I'm in the view source [01:48:39] of chrome [01:48:43] and there is nothing at all [01:48:51] I was looking at the html code of the view source page... [01:48:57] so there's no html at all after all.. [01:49:15] so... nothing.. [01:49:22] just a blank page [01:49:25] the mainpage is blank? [01:49:33] same thing with lang=en [01:49:34] No, a load.php link, I think. [01:49:50] load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=site&only=styles&skin=vector&* [01:49:52] DeeJayTwo: Are you familiar with curl? Or can you look to see what the Web browser is returning? [01:49:52] this [01:50:01] Err, Web server. * [01:50:24] telnet could do too? [01:50:29] with a get [01:50:32] Yeah. [01:51:25] Just to see whether you're getting a 200 or a 500, I guess. [01:51:28] !debug [01:51:28] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [01:51:31] !blankpage [01:51:31] A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [01:52:31] Escape character is '^]'. [01:52:31] get /wiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=site&only=styles&skin=vector&* [01:52:31] Connection closed by foreign host. [01:52:53] Did you set up short URLs? [01:53:19] no [01:53:50] if I call a unexistent path/file I get the 404 Not found [01:54:09] but our precise load.php just returns nothing and the connection closes.. [01:54:27] Which Web browser are you using? [01:54:35] apache 2.4 [01:54:38] The Web inspector or Page info section usually contains HTTP header info. [01:54:41] errr [01:54:42] Web browser, not Web server. [01:54:45] chrome [01:54:46] Like Chrome or Firefox or something. [01:54:54] So in Chrome, go to the Web inspector. [01:55:01] And look at the network tab and reload the page. [01:55:09] Reload the load.php page, I mean. [01:55:15] And see what the response is. [01:56:53] it says type text/css [01:56:59] 200 OK [01:57:05] 441 Bytes [01:57:10] 441 bytes? [01:57:12] But it's a blank page? [01:57:28] Size 441 bytes [01:57:33] Content 0 B [01:57:38] Hmm. [01:57:55] Did you install any custom extensions? [01:58:13] previously visual editor [01:58:13] on 1.24 [01:58:14] errr.... 1.23 [01:58:26] but I restarted from scratch with 1.24 [01:58:36] updated the database [01:58:56] and haven't added visual editor back yet.. [01:59:04] Maybe message cache? I dunno. [01:59:15] did you run update.php? [01:59:29] It's difficult to diagnose without seeing the wiki. [01:59:40] wmat: : yes [01:59:52] wmat: : I succesfully updated the database [02:00:02] Fiona: : I understand :/ [02:00:03] turn on error reporting? [02:00:33] at least we're b/w compatible with a 1986 Mac plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UBRUyofiiU [02:02:14] added: ini_set('display_errors', 'On'); [02:02:17] to the top of index.php [02:02:20] reloaded [02:02:21] nothing more [02:02:43] error_reporting(E_ALL) [02:02:44] argh [02:02:51] ...load.php ;) [02:02:56] retrying [02:02:58] DeeJayTwo: to the top of LocalSettings.php [02:05:02] alright! [02:05:05] got errors [02:05:21] I'm using ldapauthenticationplugin [02:05:42] strict standard stuff [02:07:11] http://tny.cz/6b59185d [02:09:56] so that's what is breaking things up... [02:10:08] thank you, I'll try to fix it tomorrow [02:10:57] did you match the version of the extension to the MW version? [02:14:26] arghh.... [02:14:29] Just tried [02:14:30] disabled ldap [02:14:34] no error... [02:14:36] no content... [02:14:47] :/ [02:15:07] Have to go but I'll probably come back here tomorrow for some help with more tests.. [02:15:15] Thank you very much it's very appreciated! [02:47:35] Hello, i have one question [02:47:44] ¿How can i set [02:47:48] a favicon...? [03:04:24] !wgFavicon [03:04:28] !wg Favicon [03:04:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgFavicon [03:04:34] That, I think. [03:04:54] Thank youu [03:05:01] ElGatoSaez: Or put a favicon.ico in the root directory of your Web server. [03:05:06] favicon.ico is a special file name. [03:05:08] Like robots.txt. [03:05:17] It can live in the Web server root (like example.com/favicon.ico) [03:05:29] Or you can specify a path with LocalSettings.php. Either approach is fine. [03:05:44] Should i put it in the root directory or in htdocs directory? [03:05:46] Oh, it defaults to /favicon.ico. [03:05:52] In the root Web server directory. [03:05:54] Next to index.php. [03:05:57] okay [03:05:58] In that same directory. [03:06:10] i'll put it in both to try [03:06:15] Umm. Actually, in the level above that? [03:06:44] Is your site public? Link? [03:06:49] Is it [04:54:59] i want to write some wiki pages taht are instructions for configuring something in Windows. it hopefully would have lots of screen shots, but I'm finding it difficult to quickly grab a screenshot and insert it into the page I am editing. is there any plugins that might make that easier? [05:19:09] ah MsUpload seems ok, though it doesn't work in VE [06:01:19] I'm suddenly getting Fatal error: Class 'Liuggio\StatsdClient\Factory\StatsdDataFactory' not found in mediawiki/includes/libs/BufferingStatsdDataFactory.php on line 33 [06:11:16] polybuildr: have you run "composer update"? [06:11:37] legoktm: Ah, no. I haven't. [06:13:56] legoktm: Worked. Thanks! :) [06:14:24] woot [08:22:25] I just installed and tryng to configure. I would like threaded Talk pages. I see several extensions available (LQT, DiscussionThreading, Flow, possibly others), with varying degrees of support/maturity. What is the advise here? I only need rather simple threading to help users to comment in a structured way. [08:32:20] mcon, what's your mediawiki version? [08:38:57] LouisMiguel: Latest, just instaled (1.24.1) [08:45:17] mcon, I think Flow requieres 1.25+ [08:48:48] AFAIK Flow is not ready yet, LQT seems dead and DT is the only one appearing current. I'm currently messing with DT. I wanted advise, if possible. [09:02:54] LQT works fine for us. I don't know DT [10:16:04] hello all [10:16:15] have a problem with my wiki [10:16:22] about users [10:16:42] what problem? [10:18:43] i am the admin of the wiki, and i receive undelivered emails [10:18:59] error is "Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender" [10:19:09] but i blocked users registrations [10:20:16] in this case the user had not a yahoo account (he tried registering with that) [10:23:50] :\ [10:24:16] wake up! [10:25:41] can somebody talk to me? [10:30:57] hello? [10:46:03] is there a plugin to delete the users? [10:46:44] don't care to destroy the database [10:46:50] i can backup it [10:52:51] Dottor_Z, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BlockAndNuke [10:53:57] i used it but they still creates new users and modify wiki [10:54:07] and it DOES NOT delete users [10:56:37] maybe https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserMerge [10:58:42] i'll try it [10:58:55] but still i have a problem with users registrations [10:59:01] we'll see [11:05:12] i can only merge a single user [11:07:48] maybe a plugin to delete them at all? [11:22:57] my priority is however to prevent users registration [11:23:36] is useless to block users or even delete them, when they can still register new ones [11:25:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation [11:25:24] i tried it [11:25:26] Dottor_Z, [11:25:27] # Prevent new user registrations except by sysops [11:25:27] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [11:25:58] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [11:42:21] Hello everyone. Can anyone help with a runjobs question? I get this error: [runJobs] Failed to start cron API: received 'HTTP/1.1 302 Found' [12:22:33] MondoBizzarro: Weird. [12:22:38] What kind of job? [14:15:07] <^v^_FreeBird_^v^> Hi [14:34:30] Niharika : just to confirm, my proposal on phabricator is the one that will be considered, right? [14:34:55] ankita-ks: Yes. [14:36:56] So if I have submitted one on Melange and then later edited the one on Phabricator, I do not need to update the one on Melange, right? [14:38:23] Niharika ^ [14:39:11] ankita-ks: Right. But make sure your melange proposal has a link to the phab one. [14:39:20] okay. will do. [14:47:49] hey folks, could somebody help me fix the semantic mediawiki page https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Biggest ? [14:48:22] It needs the property "Size" which is / should be linked to individual pages like this one http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Cyberhippietotalism [14:48:55] I did the new property https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Property:Size ... but don't really know how to connect it to values specified on individual pages etc [14:49:04] help much appreciated.. [14:49:06] dcht00: The #semantic-mediawiki channel is the better place to discuss SMW-specific issues. [14:49:11] thanks! [14:56:32] Does anyone know why this patch hasn't been merged? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/199859/ [14:57:08] jenkins-bot "verified" it, but that only showed up as a "+1" in the "Verified" column rather than a check mark, which I assume is the issue. [14:57:43] Is jenkins-bot more empowered for some extensions than for others? And if so, how do I change that? [14:59:28] Yaron: Sometimes it takes jenkins a while to merge it. Wait a bit? [15:00:33] Niharika: ah, maybe that's it. Alright, I'll wait; thanks. [16:00:26] Niharika: I don't think it was a matter of waiting. [16:01:05] Let me state the question again: [16:01:22] Does anyone know why this patch hasn't been merged? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/199859/ [16:01:39] jenkins-bot "verified" it, but that only showed up as a "+1" in the "Verified" column rather than a check mark, which I assume is the issue. [16:01:59] Is jenkins-bot more empowered for some extensions than for others? And if so, how do I change that? [16:13:32] Yaron: Yeah. I saw another patch get merged immediately a while back. For extension/Comments. Not sure why it isn't working here. [16:14:18] Is ^d the right person to ping? [16:15:29] for extensions, some users got rights to merge changes automatically, instead of delegating that to Jenkins [16:16:26] Yaron: are you the maintainer of that extension? [16:20:20] Vulpix: yes. [16:20:34] It's a new extension, that might not have gotten set up correctly... [16:21:51] Yaron: do you have any extra button like merge or similar, next to the review one? [16:22:08] No... [16:22:14] I think people able to merge it should have a button there [16:22:35] can i merge groups of users in one? [16:22:39] I mean, I know I can merge this patch in by marking it "+2 Verified" myself, but I thought we were supposed to let jenkins-bot do that. [16:23:48] since i have HUNDREDS of users [16:24:55] Dottor_Z: this extension might help, if you don't know about it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserMerge [16:25:06] Yaron: ah, well, Jenkins need to be configured for that, I think. By defaut it will only verify it but not merge [16:25:23] i use it but i can merge an user per time [16:26:06] Dottor_Z: oh; I don't know, then. [16:26:24] Vulpix: right, okay. Who can I talk to about that? [16:26:43] ok thank you anyway [16:42:22] Yaron: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Project_ownership#Other_MediaWiki_extensions - Once created I don't know if you'll need to create a task in phabricator, or simply poke ^d about that [17:10:48] 5000 users to "merge" and delete [17:10:56] i'll cry soon [17:17:23] well, that what happens if you leave a wiki unattended for long time [17:18:23] a maintenance script to do that from command line would be handy, though [17:18:31] i created the wiki the 10th of march [17:39:10] is it possible to put two blocks like this {{xxx}} {{yyyy}} side by side? [17:39:59] i try {{xxx}}{{yyyy}} [17:40:04] and in a table [17:40:12] but it does not work [17:40:44] vev: use a table, one row and 2 cells, each template in one cell. that should work [17:40:58] Vulpix: i ll try [17:41:17] Or... [17:42:02] {{xxx}} !! {{yyyy}} !! {{xxx}} !! {{yyyy}} !! {{xxx}} [17:42:04] vev:

[17:42:05] like this? [17:43:00] yes, "like" this, assuming you've omitted most of the table markup [17:43:19] Please don't make the HTML puppies cry [17:43:23] Use divs instead of tables [17:46:55] marktraceur: i have a small bug: http://www.libreidea.org/w/index.php/List_of_ideas [17:47:01] can you correct it? [17:47:08] In a bit [17:47:15] k [17:50:56] Hey - I bet you get a lot of this but there are VAST amounts of spambots on my site (since yesterday) [17:51:00] What can I do? [17:51:26] I'm searching, hoping for a plugin but these guys are fast - can I turn registration off quickly? [17:51:37] sure [17:51:58] alec: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation [17:52:08] !spam [17:52:08] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [17:52:24] Is there an easy way to masss-remove ( Vulpix I just came from that page because it mentions patching and stuff) [17:53:10] * the users and all their contributions? (it's a tiny wiki, 2 people) [17:54:24] !e Nuke | alec [17:54:24] alec: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke_ [17:55:10] Why isn't that shown in special pages Vulpix? [17:55:24] because you haven't enabled it during installation [17:55:33] I did [17:55:52] is it listed in Special:Version? [17:55:55] The page works it's just not in the SpecialPages list - anyway Vulpix there are LOADS of users, am I to copy and paste all of them one at a time [17:56:11] @ Vulpix I'm looking at the page now Special:Nuke so it is present [17:57:02] Yeah this is awful, is there no way to say "delete after" or something [17:57:38] Let me try regex not [17:57:53] if you have backups and mysql has the binary log enabled, you could restore the database to a point in time [17:58:26] Vulpix: I thought it'd be easy to deal with, it's about 50/50 spambots and content, If I could say "not created by user: "that'd be great [17:58:55] a "delete after" option would have the same problem, doesn't it? [17:59:44] No because it started this morning and there have been no changes Vulpix (which is pure luck) [18:00:01] All their usernames have a nice pattern (end with numbers) [18:00:20] Special:Nuke should be sufficient, then, or restore your daily backup from yesterday [18:00:40] Vulpix: Special:Nuke doesn't have a delete after option, I'd have to check A LOT of boxes [18:01:47] alec: what? there's a select all/none option [18:02:07] Yes Vulpix either way I have to select MANY things [18:02:14] There's a lot of content - there's a lot of spam [18:02:44] FFS it deleted the pages but not blocked the users [18:02:45] HELPFUL [18:04:03] that's another story [18:04:24] Vulpix: is there a way to mass-delete users? [18:05:44] (yet weirdly Vulpix they are not on the active user list - due to deletion?) [18:07:19] no, there's no way to mass-delete users, sadly [18:08:09] Vulpix: how can I prevent this and why isn't something like CAPATCHA included by default? [18:08:22] Seriously - this is silly! [18:08:35] !e ConfirmEdit [18:08:35] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [18:08:48] ^ bundled in tarballs [18:09:04] Hey. I'm trying to install the MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle on a Windows IIS server MediaWiki installation. [18:09:29] Vulpix: I've got require_once "$IP/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit.php"; already [18:09:32] Does that do nothing? [18:09:47] alec: did you read the documentation? [18:10:00] If I add these lines http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Language_Extension_Bundle#Add.2Fupdate_your_LocalSettings.php [18:10:10] To LocalSettings.php, I get a 500 error [18:10:18] It just seems insane to me that it wasn't configured already - anyone with Python can do this Vulpix [18:11:41] alec: trust me, I'm fighting to get a link about anti spam measures on the main page, after installation https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85327 [18:11:42] Also [18:12:09] marktraceur: this is weird [18:12:15] Is there anyone here for hire? :-) [18:12:23] I'm looking for someone to install a few extensions on a wiki [18:12:33] kikero: could you see the actual error from the server logs, or on-screen? [18:12:37] @ kikero it's not worth paying for [18:12:39]