[00:00:11] <Fiona>	 You'd set $wgUploadPath to $wgScriptPath/images/<directory name>/ or something like that.
[00:06:58] <bluethundr>	 hey guys.. I'm attempting to setup MW 1.24.1, and for some reason I don't see mysql as a choice
[00:07:04] <bluethundr>	 only postgres and sqlite
[00:07:17] <bluethundr>	 how can I get this version to use mysql? 
[00:18:19] <Fiona>	 Is MySQL installed and running?
[00:18:34] <Fiona>	 bluethundr: ^
[00:21:38] <bluethundr>	 Fiona: yes it is
[00:21:46] <bluethundr>	 but I was missing the mysqli extension
[00:21:48] <bluethundr>	 fixed that
[00:21:50] <bluethundr>	 good to go
[00:21:51] <bluethundr>	 thans 
[00:21:53] <bluethundr>	 thanks
[00:25:40] <Fiona>	 Nice. No problem!
[00:37:15] <alec>	 Does a wiki keep track of ALL the recent edits? (so I can view all past history?
[00:39:28] <kikero>	 How do I make Vector.css show a taller logo?
[00:39:52] <alec>	 kikero you still here? Use Firefox right click inspect element find thing ??? profit
[00:40:20] <kikero>	 @alec, hi
[00:43:23] <kikero>	 alec, I changed #p-logo a's height but wasn't getting the right results because of page cache
[00:44:25] <alec>	 kikero: try modifying the properties as I said first, no one here will know "Oh you need to modify this!" but with basic CSS knowledge and firefox....
[00:45:07] <kikero>	 okay
[00:45:19] <kikero>	 what about making the Language Extension Bundle work on IIS? :-)
[00:45:35] <alec>	 IIS?
[00:45:38] <kikero>	 yea
[00:45:44] <kikero>	 Windows server
[00:45:48] <alec>	 .....
[00:45:53] <kikero>	 don't ask me
[00:45:58] <kikero>	 it's not my server
[00:46:10] <alec>	 Do you have a domain kikero if you want I'll host it for you
[00:46:27] <kikero>	 alec, it's a client's server. I had no idea it ran Windows server.
[00:46:34] <alec>	 Oh well sucks for you :P
[00:46:41] <kikero>	 Hmm
[00:46:48] <alec>	 Sorry but yeah
[00:46:49] <kikero>	 I'm really happy that, as a Wikipedian
[00:46:59] <alec>	 Windows - not used that in a decade
[00:47:00] <kikero>	 I finally get paid to work with MediaWiki
[00:47:13] <kikero>	 Which is really cool
[00:47:22] <kikero>	 Now, I don't have a Windows machine either
[00:47:36] <alec>	 Good :)
[00:47:38] <kikero>	 I had to find a Remote Desktop Access client for Linux
[00:49:37] <kikero>	 alec, do you have any idea if wikimedia receives paypal donations? :-)
[00:51:05] <alec>	 kikero: try it, but stop talking about paid jobs and stuff here
[00:51:11] <alec>	 Donate but don't brag about it
[00:51:29] <kikero>	 didn't brag, just asked
[00:51:47] <alec>	 You've just tried to brag about wanting to donate kikero 
[00:52:06] <kikero>	 Lol
[00:54:38] <Fiona>	 Alec: Yes, you can visit Special:RecentChanges.
[00:54:44] <Fiona>	 It keeps the past 30 days by default.
[00:54:55] <Fiona>	 Page histories and other logs are kept indefinitely, though.
[00:57:05] <Alec>	 Fiona: I know I mean can recent changes go back (with page creation/change logs) - I used that to navigate (things I was working on)
[00:58:59] <MatmaRex>	 Alec: there's a configuration variable that controls how far back RecentChanges goes
[00:59:19] <Alec>	 matanya: is there an indefinite one (that enables pagination?)
[00:59:22] <MatmaRex>	 Alec: and there's a maintenance script to rebuild the data from past edits
[00:59:37] <MatmaRex>	 hmm, no pagination probably. but you can set it to ten years or some such
[00:59:50] <Alec>	 Oh I see it actively maintains a log @ MatmaRex - I expected it to be an SQL view or something
[01:00:32] <MatmaRex>	 pretty sure MySQL didn't have views when some of that code was written ;)
[01:01:11] <Alec>	 @ Matma it always had joins though, could have had one massive query!
[01:01:26] <MatmaRex>	 ha
[02:05:08] <kikero>	 How do I replace Special:Upload with Special:UploadWizard?
[02:05:18] <kikero>	 ie. make the "Upload" button redirect to UploadWizard?
[02:07:05] <MaxSem>	 kikero, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar
[02:07:16] <MaxSem>	 you need to replace upload-url
[02:08:39] <MaxSem>	 eh, disregard that
[02:10:07] <MaxSem>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUploadNavigationUrl
[02:12:32] <Krenair>	 kikero, MaxSem: wgUploadNavigationUrl?
[02:12:34] <Krenair>	 lots of our wikis use that: https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php#L1146
[02:35:58] <kikero>	 Krenair, didn't know about $wgUploadNavigationUrl! Thanks!
[03:57:40] <ElGatoSaez>	 Hello
[03:57:54] <ElGatoSaez>	 Anyone knows how can i set that just sysops can upload files?
[03:57:55] <ElGatoSaez>	 Thanks
[04:01:49] <Krenair>	 ElGatoSaez, you'll want wgGroupPermissions
[04:02:12] <ElGatoSaez>	 oh
[04:02:34] <ElGatoSaez>	 so wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
[04:02:40] <ElGatoSaez>	 i add ['upload']?
[04:03:16] <Krenair>	 you're disabling editing for all users?
[04:03:29] <ElGatoSaez>	 I am
[04:03:34] <Krenair>	 ... ok
[04:03:40] <Krenair>	 you'll want a similar line
[04:03:44] <ElGatoSaez>	 This is a private encyclopedia
[04:03:47] <Krenair>	 with 'upload' instead of 'edit'
[04:03:52] <ElGatoSaez>	 okay
[04:03:52] <Krenair>	 weird.
[04:03:52] <ElGatoSaez>	 Thanks
[04:03:55] <Krenair>	 but also
[04:04:03] <Krenair>	 Remember that MediaWiki assigns upload to '*' by default
[04:04:05] <Krenair>	 rather than 'user'
[04:04:15] <ElGatoSaez>	 so...
[04:04:18] <ElGatoSaez>	 if i add the line...
[04:04:29] <Krenair>	 yes, $wgGroupPermissions['*']['upload'] = false;
[04:04:30] <ElGatoSaez>	 it will do better or worse?
[04:04:36] <ElGatoSaez>	 so that will solve my problem?
[04:04:37] <Krenair>	 $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['upload'] = true;
[04:04:43] <Krenair>	 should do the trick
[04:05:03] <ElGatoSaez>	 thanks
[04:05:22] <ElGatoSaez>	 you are great guys, i really got fast answers here
[10:40:32] <vev_>	 #libreidea is looking for coders php to add an indispensable functionality >> full details here: http://www.libreidea.org/w/index.php/Collaborative_matrix
[10:49:32] <alimula>	 Hey! I installed Extension:ConfirmAccount, web-updated the wiki, added the require in LocalSettings.php, etc.
[10:50:07] <alimula>	 The `Request account` link now replaces the older `Register` one
[10:50:16] <alimula>	 I can access Special:ConfirmAccounts also
[10:50:45] <alimula>	 It's just that, if I were to request a new account, I would receive a 500 error just after submitting the form
[10:50:48] <alimula>	 Any ideas?
[10:50:54] <alimula>	 I am using IIS
[10:52:07] <Nebraskka>	 Hey fellas! Trying to run MediaWiki with MariaDB Galera Cluster. It requires at least 1 PRIMARY KEY for table. Is it OK to convert some UNIQUE KEY to PRIMARY, or add PRIMARY KEY to tables where it's not exists right now?
[11:30:51] <hookmed>	 Hello. How to change login button color (#008C6E) in mediawiki? (located in mw-ui-button.mw-ui-constructive) 
[11:31:57] <alimula>	 hookmed, tried editing MediaWiki:Commons.css
[11:32:00] <alimula>	 ?
[11:33:51] <hookmed>	 I tried edit only theme css
[11:34:01] <hookmed>	 I have own theme yes
[11:36:23] <hookmed>	 I can edit button color without problem with inspect element, but I don't know where button located in mediawiki css
[12:23:43] <argenton>	 hello!
[12:24:54] <argenton>	 I have a question about where I request one thing D:
[12:25:30] <argenton>	 any kind soul online?
[12:26:34] <argenton>	 :'(
[12:30:38] <Nebraskka>	 argenton, ask it right away!
[12:33:03] <argenton>	 hi Nebraskka! the "collaboration" tab at WN-pt disappeared, and I do not know where I request to reimplement that
[12:45:30] <argenton>	 I really like the kindness of Wikimedia volunteers
[13:04:20] <thedj>	 argenton: WN being wikinews ?
[13:04:32] <argenton>	 yep
[13:04:45] <thedj>	 where did it used to be ?
[13:05:19] <argenton>	 just as in the English version
[13:07:05] <argenton>	 insteed the "discussion" they divided in "opinion" and "collaboration"
[13:07:06] <thedj>	 argenton: i see "Discusiao"
[13:07:26] <argenton>	 yep, and this is the problem
[13:08:59] <argenton>	 the collaboration/opinion  disappeared and then "discussion" (discussão) appeared  
[13:09:56] <thedj>	 sounds like there is a script doing that, and it broke
[13:10:26] <thedj>	 Transforma determinadas páginas em páginas de discussão
[13:10:31] <thedj>	 does that sound like it 
[13:11:20] <thedj>	 wow, there is some old JS on that wiki..
[13:11:59] <argenton>	 yep, no one takes care
[13:12:19] <pi->	 I've just created a mediawiki VM (from digitalocean). http://46.101.38.186/ gives: "LocalSettings.php not found. Please set up the wiki first." Now I wish to transfer my localhost mediawiki to this one. Should I set it up first and then set about transferring, or should I do the transfer straightaway?
[13:12:50] <argenton>	 but I will start a educational project threre and I need to fix somenthings
[13:13:53] <argenton>	 some things*
[13:14:45] <thedj>	 argenton: you sure pt wikinews ever had the separation between comments and collaboration ?
[13:15:09] <argenton>	 yes, I give lectures about it in 2012
[13:15:39] <argenton>	 after that I don't have memories about it
[13:16:03] <thedj>	 so what is the namespace name of Comments then in pt ?
[13:16:04] <thedj>	 https://pt.wikinews.org/wiki/Especial:Todas_as_páginas
[13:16:14] <thedj>	 should be listed there under "dominio"
[13:18:56] <argenton>	 yeah... now that you are talking, I think that it was a liquidthread or somenthing like that
[13:19:44] <argenton>	 and they used the "discussion" as the colaboration and the opinion was redirect to the main, but at the bottom of the text
[13:22:24] <thedj>	 argenton: well i can't find anything about it :(
[13:23:22] <argenton>	 https://pt.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:Opine&oldid=154352  They have a redirect to a preload page that was deleted... super weird 
[13:23:54] <argenton>	 well, this is not a good solution at all...
[13:24:01] <thedj>	 argenton: this is the only thing i can find: https://pt.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3APesquisar&profile=advanced&search=liquidthreads&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns102=1&ns103=1&ns104=1&ns105=1&ns828=1&ns829=1&profile=advanced
[13:25:38] <thedj>	 pi-: i would first transfer
[13:27:07] <argenton>	 somenthing is lost Wikinews:Commentary_pages_on_news_events/body and Wikinews:Commentary_pages_on_news_events/intro is used to do this thing there...
[13:27:12] <argenton>	 anyway
[13:28:10] <argenton>	 Can we import the WN-en system?
[13:28:59] <argenton>	 because this is super broked, and can cause more problems than solutions
[13:30:29] <thedj>	 argenton: if you can do without LQT, you can easily request to add anothere namespace and get a tab added
[13:31:08] <thedj>	 LQT is being phased out, so there won't be new deployments of it anymore (already not for 1,5 years now)
[13:32:19] <argenton>	 yeah, I know, sad, we still using at WB-pt
[13:34:05] <argenton>	 thedj where we can make this request, I did that in 2008, and never again
[13:34:49] <thedj>	 argenton: first flesh out what you want, get consensus of the community and then request the changes in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org
[13:35:04] <thedj>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/
[13:37:29] <argenton>	 community? funny hehehe, ok, I'll try to send in the village pump, but see that  https://pt.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinot%C3%ADcias:Reda%C3%A7%C3%A3o/Arquivo
[13:38:10] <argenton>	 in 2014 not even one discussion
[13:38:47] <argenton>	 Thank you thedj!
[14:41:15] <Kethus>	 hello, is it possible to link an irc channel to a wikia chat?
[17:15:35] <aharoni>	 legoktm: yo
[17:16:15] <aharoni>	 is GlobalUserPage supposed to render templates from the source global wiki on the target wiki?
[17:16:40] <aharoni>	 see https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:Filedelinkerbot - the template there is broken in a funny way.
[19:05:36] <Vortex_>	 I need help with a problem please
[19:05:53] <Vortex_>	 Anyone here?
[19:05:55] <bawolff>	 Vortex_: what's the problem?
[19:06:09] <Vortex_>	 I'm trying to do the [[newpage]] inside a table
[19:06:12] <Vortex_>	 Not working
[19:06:54] <bawolff>	 you have a link to what you're doing?
[19:07:01] <Vortex_>	 Yup
[19:07:05] <Vortex_>	 http://gettrillium.net/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
[19:08:11] <bawolff>	 Its in an <html> block
[19:08:16] <Vortex_>	 Ah
[19:08:21] <Vortex_>	 Is that the problem?
[19:08:26] <bawolff>	 you're only allowed to use html inside there, no wikitext stuff
[19:08:31] <Vortex_>	 Dammit
[19:08:48] <Vortex_>	 Can I just remove the <html> tags and still use <table> tags?
[19:08:49] <bawolff>	 table things (most of them) like <td> and friends can work outside an html block
[19:09:00] <bawolff>	 yes (mostly)
[19:09:07] <Vortex_>	 Then the page links will work?
[19:09:09] <bawolff>	 some fancy stuff like <tbody> doesn't work
[19:09:19] <bawolff>	 yes
[19:09:28] <Vortex_>	 Thanks, really helpful!
[19:09:38] <Vortex_>	 See you!
[19:09:45] <pir^2>	 you can also use MediaWiki's horrible {| | - || |} table formatting
[19:09:47] <bawolff>	 Vortex_: One other thing, allowing raw html on a wiki that can be publically editable is a bad idea
[19:09:53] <pir^2>	 he's gone...
[19:10:28] <pir^2>	 bawolff: does it allow <script> too? Ouch.
[19:10:35] <bawolff>	 yeah
[19:10:45] <bawolff>	 its meant for private wikis where you trust everyone with edit privs
[19:12:55] <bawolff>	 i left him a message on his wiki http://gettrillium.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Admin
[19:13:31] <pir^2>	 great
[19:24:49] <pi->	 I'm following https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-ubuntu-14-04 -- I have a wiki on my local machine and I'm attempting to transfer it to my VM.  How do I go about this?  I could (1) follow the tutorial to the end, whereupon I will have working fresh wiki on my VM, then go about copying everything across, or (2) not, in which case ? ... What to do?
[19:27:58] <bawolff>	 pi-: Generally you need to make sure your LocalSettings.php and your database is copied, as those are the two parts that make your wiki different from a generic install
[19:30:49] <bawolff>	 pi-: So I'd reccomend taking a dump of your database (with mysql specific tools), importing it on to the db you're going to use, and then instead of doing step 4, copy your LocalSettings.php, but replace any information that's different (generally $wgServer, the name of the mysql db host, maybe $wgScriptPath)
[19:34:38] <hoomdoc>	 I can't change login button color, when button is pressed. Can't select color in inspect element
[19:35:02] <pi->	 I'm at `CREATE DATABASE my_wiki;` on step 3.  I'm wondering whether I should skip this, as I will be copying across my existing database I guess..
[19:35:12] <hoomdoc>	 I changed login button with .mw-ui-button.mw-ui-constructive:hover { 	border-bottom-color: #729FCF;}
[19:35:31] <bawolff>	 pi-: yes, I'd reccomend skipping that, and just copying your old db
[19:35:50] <hoomdoc>	 But don't know why .mw-ui-button.mw-ui-constructive:active not working
[19:36:20] <pi->	 bawolff: but then it continues `Next, we will create a database user for the MediaWiki installation:` ... Should I skip this also?
[19:37:03] <bawolff>	 I'd copy your db over, then create the user with appropriate permissions for the name of the db you copied over
[19:41:05] <pi->	 bawolff: looking through my old backups I have an x.sql which I remember was the result of dumping the sql db.  Where should I put it?
[19:42:19] <bawolff>	 pi-: generally I believe you would do something like
[19:42:28] <bawolff>	 mysql DB_NAME_HERE < x.sql
[19:42:37] <bawolff>	 where the DB_NAME should already exist (I think)
[19:43:10] <pi->	 I wonder if that represents the `CREATE DATABASE my_wiki;` step I'm wondering whether to skip
[19:43:13] <bawolff>	 if you're using phpmyadmin, there's probably an option to import dumps somewhere
[19:43:45] <bawolff>	 If you open the file x.sql in a text editor, you should be able to see if it does (It will have CREATE DATABASE... in it if it does)
[19:44:59] <pi->	 ok I didn't realise phpmyadmin was part of this equation... Problem is that I'm dealing with a lot of objects that completely unfamiliar to me.. It's hard to see what to do.
[19:46:24] <bawolff>	 phpmyadmin doesn't neccesarily have to be. Its just a graphical interface that does the same thing as the mysql command line program
[19:46:48] <bawolff>	 x.sql should be a file with all the sql commands needed to recreate the database
[19:46:56] <bawolff>	 if you do mysql DB_NAME < x.sql
[19:47:11] <bawolff>	 that tells mysql to switch to DB_NAME, and then run every command in the file x.sql
[19:48:07] <pi->	 ok, so don't I first need to create an empty database, i.e. do `CREATE DATABASE my_wiki;` from sql prompt?
[19:49:05] <bawolff>	 I'm not sure. It depends on if x.sql has the CREATE DATABASE command in it or not
[19:49:18] <pi->	 It doesn't, I just searched it
[19:50:16] <bawolff>	 ok, in that case, you probably want to do the CREATE DATABASE step
[19:51:22] <pi->	 x.sql contains `-- Host: localhost    Database: bitnami_mediawiki ` up near the top, I guess I need to create a matching name(..?)
[19:52:08] <pi->	 Actually a different name should be okay I think
[19:52:44] <bawolff>	 different name should probably be fine, provided you change it to match in LocalSettings.php later on
[21:12:22] <Alec>	 I'm now using re-capatcha from Google and someone's registered with the wiki - if that account goes on a spam rampage what can I do?
[21:17:21] <Fiona>	 Revert the mess?
[21:20:57] <pir^2>	 block it
[22:54:58] <Betacommand>	 Alec: Special:Nuke