[00:42:12] <Betacommand>	 aclonedsheep: if you want to strip out the passwords and then post your localsettings ill take a look
[00:43:03] <aclonedsheep>	 Betacommand, that is really generous of you. Are you a regular here? I may have fixed it, so I'm monitoring for now, I may not need to take up your time
[00:43:21] <Betacommand>	 aclonedsheep: yeah
[00:43:33] <Betacommand>	 aclonedsheep: what did you change?
[00:43:48] <aclonedsheep>	 Thank you so much. I'll let you know if I am having problems again
[00:44:16] <Betacommand>	 aclonedsheep: what did you change in your settings?
[00:44:40] <aclonedsheep>	 Betacommand, I added a few more group settings to restrict users, and i restricted anonymous reading
[00:45:03] <aclonedsheep>	 and on the other end, I merge/deleted all the spam a ccounts that were left
[00:45:27] <aclonedsheep>	 so hopefully i'm cleaned up and sufficiently locked down now
[00:54:58] <urso>	 hi
[00:55:03] <urso>	 and bye
[01:47:42] <jackmcbarn>	 adamw: yeah, threebean told me
[02:19:58] <adamw>	 jackmcbarn: awesome, thanks again for your help.
[04:00:46] <legoktm>	 adamw: out of curiosity, any reason you're using mwclient?
[04:14:21] <hara>	 hi. Is this official mediawiki community?
[04:14:27] <ori>	 yes
[04:14:33] <ori>	 and hello
[04:14:57] <hara>	 are you a developer?
[04:15:35] <hara>	 ori? are you there?
[04:16:27] <bawolff>	 hara: There are many developers in this channel. Ori is indeed one of them
[04:18:25] <hara>	 I see. 
[04:18:45] <hara>	 so any project as for now?
[04:20:05] <ori>	 hara: lots! if you are looking to get involved in development, you can browse "easy" tasks listed here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/o1M_232KG9W4/#R . there's a lot more information here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker .
[04:20:42] <hara>	 thanks. I will. :)
[04:22:03] <ori>	 feel free to ask any questions. most people in this room aren't always looking at IRC, so if you ask a question, someone will usually respond after a few minutes.
[05:22:46] <adamw>	 legoktm: do you mean, why am I using a mediawiki client library in general, or why mwclient in particular?
[05:23:11] <adamw>	 legot: the actual use case is https://www.happyassassin.net/wikitcms/ , the test script was just isolating mwclient to make it clear wikitcms wasn't causing the problem
[05:23:51] <adamw>	 legoktm: I picked mwclient mainly because of fhocutt's work, I guess - I wanted a well maintained, easy to use python lib, and mwclient on the list of libraries seemed to fit the bill.
[05:29:23] <legoktm>	 adamw: mwclient specifically, I'm a pywikibot developer :P
[05:35:09] <legoktm>	 adamw: have you ever heard of https://github.com/earwig/mwparserfromhell ? you could simplify a bunch of regexes/code by using real parser :)
[06:26:24] <adamw>	 legoktm: i saw it, yeah. i suppose i could use it for the template/table parsing stuff, not really sure why i didn't think of that
[06:27:32] <adamw>	 guess i'll put it on the todo list
[06:28:55] <adamw>	 legoktm: I don't recall why I picked mwclient over pywikibot, probably just looked easier to use, wikitcms was literally the first project i ever did from scratch.
[06:29:36] <adamw>	 hum, does mwparserfromhell do tables?
[06:29:56] <legoktm>	 it does! but I don't think there's a released version that includes the code
[06:30:48] <adamw>	 legoktm: hum, i don't immediately see it in the github code, where am I missing it?
[06:31:09] <adamw>	 oh, https://github.com/earwig/mwparserfromhell/commit/45ed8c445c4ce98423207447b6be6502eb5397f0 ./
[06:31:25] <adamw>	 legoktm: i'll take a look at using it tomorrow, thanks
[06:31:26] <legoktm>	 https://github.com/earwig/mwparserfromhell/commit/45ed8c445c4ce98423207447b6be6502eb5397f0
[06:31:30] <legoktm>	 yep :P
[06:31:31] <legoktm>	 :)
[06:34:09] <adamw>	 legoktm: it doesn't have any significant external dependencies? i'll want to package it for fedora ideally
[06:44:08] <legoktm>	 adamw: no dependencies :) I actually started on that...  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181927 but never had time to follow up on it
[06:47:06] <adamw>	 legoktm: ah cool, i'll pick it up from there i guess. thanks
[06:47:24] <adamw>	 it's not like i love writing wikicode parsers :P
[06:47:33] <legoktm>	 :pp
[12:44:08] <vivek_>	 hello everyone
[12:44:13] <vivek_>	 any one here
[12:44:29] <vivek_>	 I have installed HeaderFooter extension in mediawiki using composer 
[12:44:47] <vivek_>	 but it is creating compatibility issues and creates blank pages
[12:45:00] <vivek_>	 now i want to remove HeaderFooter extension
[12:45:07] <vivek_>	 is there any way of removing it
[12:45:33] <vivek_>	 I have tried removing composer.json in main directory as well as in extensions directory 
[12:45:55] <vivek_>	 I have also removed its entry from composer.lock file but no luck
[12:46:16] <vivek_>	 Any help would be greatly appreciated 
[12:49:07] <vivek_>	 anyone here ?
[12:49:12] <p858snake|_>	 !500 | vivek_
[12:49:12] <wm-bot>	 vivek_: A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug>.
[12:50:01] <vivek_>	 the page gives bad title
[13:18:39] <d33tah>	 hello
[13:19:28] <d33tah>	 is this the place where i can ask why mobile pages in mediawiki (english wikipedia, specifically) prohibit embedding the website in frames?
[13:21:48] <codezee>	 d33tah: best place would be #wikimedia-mobile for mobile related issues
[13:23:07] <d33tah>	 codezee: thanks!
[15:55:30] <pi->	 I have a question regarding permissions:  I've currently got a Wiki up, of which I am the only Author.  However I'd like to create a page that can be edited by half a dozen people.  Can I do this?  
[15:56:05] <pi->	 Also is it possible to work it so that they can spawn pages from this page, but still they don't have write access to the main Wiki?
[15:58:41] <azi`>	 is there a way to make a part of a text hidden and only visible when someone expands it?
[15:58:48] <azi`>	 a use case would be say, for spoilers?
[16:09:11] <Hello71>	 pi-: what does spawn pages mean
[16:10:46] <pi->	 Hello71: well, if I remember correctly you can do [[Foo]] and when you save the page it will appear as a red link which you can click on, and then it asks you if you wish to create that page.
[16:11:41] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 to make a page editable only if refered to by one specific page would probably involve tons of hackery
[16:11:55] <Hello71>	 that just makes a link
[16:12:43] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 there is probably an extension to allow editing for a specific namespace
[16:12:47] <pi->	 azi`: that sounds interesting, I would love to be able to use something like that for creating discussions at any point on the page. Just insert a '?' picture, which can expand to a conversation.  So if you are reading through some document and you don't understand something, you can initiate a conversation at that location without cluttering the page.
[16:13:22] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 pi-: that's what talk pages are for
[16:14:22] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 or a "comments" widget if that works better for your use case
[16:17:16] <pi->	 Hello71: no, I just tried it out.  It creates a new page: http://pasteboard.co/joHfjWL.png
[16:18:40] <pi->	 So what I'm wondering is:  if you have set permissions on a particular page so that Joe Bloggs has edit permissions, and he does that to create a new page from the original page, what permissions does that new page have?  Does it inherit the permissions of the original?
[16:20:48] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 they are siblings, not children
[16:21:05] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 a new page is just a new page
[16:21:22] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 what page linked to it is completely irrelevant
[16:45:12] <FlorianSW>	 Does anyone know, if the example varnish 4.x vcl (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Varnish_caching) is still actual? I'm trying to get varnish caching on of my mediawiki's, i see varnish headers, but no cache hits (and no indication in headers, that varnish delivered the page from cache) :/
[16:46:28] <dgarstang>	 I can't see what's wrong with this. https://gist.github.com/dgarstang/d33847d5ff8202ef9abe ... it's coming up all screwed up
[16:49:54] <Nemo_bis>	 http://blog.archive.org/2015/05/08/making-your-dos-programs-live-again-at-the-internet-archive/
[16:53:52] <valhallasw`nuage>	 dgarstang: what are you trying to do, what do you expect to see and what do you see instead?
[19:08:42] <feydin>	 hey room! finally got visualeditor running on my installation, but only on the main namespace and new pages
[19:08:51] <feydin>	 how can i enable it for all namespaces?
[19:09:05] <feydin>	 i already tried "$wgVisualEditorNamespaces ['*'];"
[19:09:28] <James_F>	 feydin: You can't do that. You need to specify each namespace.
[19:11:39] <feydin>	 James_F: okay thank you. dumb question: is that a comma seperated list of the namespace-names as i see it in the URL?
[19:12:55] <James_F>	 feydin: array( NS_MAIN, NS_USER, NS_FILE ); and similar.
[19:13:17] <feydin>	 James_F: thanks alot! have a great evening.
[19:13:22] <James_F>	 feydin: Without knowing your exact configuration I can't precisely give you the whole list, sorry.
[19:13:25] <James_F>	 feydin: Happy to help
[19:13:28] <Stinky>	 GReetings i was wondering if ther was a way for putting a swf file on a wiki to video as a video.
[19:13:36] <Stinky>	 view*
[19:28:35] <Stinky>	 nvm got it :)
[20:39:08] <spectralsun>	 swf--
[20:39:11] <spectralsun>	 html5++
[21:28:06] <fizzie>	 Sorry for not making a proper bug report, but registering just for that seems so difficult. At least for me, there's quite a few red "Expression error: Unexpected < operator" messages in expansions of Template:physconst, e.g. on the "Dimensionless physical constant" page, and on Template:Physconst/doc.
[21:28:26] <fizzie>	 (In en.wikipedia.)
[21:30:49] <bawolff>	 fizzie: Its ok about not making a bug report - That sort of issue actually isn't tracked on the bug tracker
[21:31:49] <bawolff>	 fizzie: That sort of issue should generally be reported to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Physconst (you do not need a user account)
[21:32:30] <fizzie>	 Okay; well, I'll add a section in there.