[07:24:50] Is this really the simplest way to create a table in mediawiki? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11279458/ Syntax seems pretty verbose and overcomplicated [07:26:51] stangeland: something like that, yeah [07:27:10] meh :/ [07:27:29] overly verbose syntax [07:27:37] confuses people [07:43:41] stangeland: well, I do agree with you, but... I guess wysiwyyg editors are hard to implement [07:44:01] mjau^, yeah....but why not just use markdown or rst [07:44:18] that'd be sweet [07:44:21] rst [07:45:12] yeah [07:45:27] i wonder if there is any rst wiki out there [07:46:28] I guess you've already looked at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables ? [09:52:34] does vagrant usually take ages to provision a role (wikidata) [10:05:07] no, it's just vagrant imploding [13:30:03] hallo [13:30:17] did anything change in ResourceLoader recently? [13:30:43] when my core is on master, I get odd RL behaviour and debug=true doesn't work at all [13:31:11] when I do `git checkout 1.25.0-rc.0`, it works like it usually does [13:31:35] did I miss any announcement about a change? [13:31:42] aharoni: Krinkle|detached rewrote cache invalidation [13:32:07] ok... and should I change anything in my installation or configuration or anything? [13:32:54] probably not [13:33:21] mmm... well, so how can I make my MW installation work on master/ [13:33:23] ? [13:33:28] because now it doesn't. [13:34:11] dunno, but i'll get my laptop in a few minutes and try to reproduce [13:34:31] MatmaRex_mobile: grazie [13:34:36] and grab Krinkle|detached who is hanging around here somewhere [13:41:03] btw MatmaRex_mobile , ContentTranslation is available in pl.wikipedia [13:43:37] aharoni: cool, thanks [13:44:10] aharoni: did you ever try Vicuña, the commons uploader? https://github.com/yarl/vicuna/ [13:44:33] aharoni: I might add some i18n changes soon, hoping not to break RTL support we have there [13:44:36] saper: I translated its UI, but I don't remember actually ever running. [13:45:06] Java tends to scare me, but I can try some time. [13:45:27] saper: this looks pretty nice: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_najwi%C4%99kszych_rodzaj%C3%B3w_ro%C5%9Blin_okrytonasiennych [13:45:34] Translated using ContentTranslation. [13:46:15] (It's not machine translation... lots of people thing that ContentTranslation is machine translation, but it's not. It's just supposed to make the process of translation easier for humans.) [13:46:58] aharoni: the author of that posted a lengthy message about his experience inthe village pump somewhere [13:47:23] MatmaRex_mobile: I'll check it out, thanks [13:47:33] not sure if you've seen it? [13:47:35] okay [13:47:54] MatmaRex_mobile: I'll definitely read it, but in one word, positive or negative? :) [13:48:21] if you find and ask Tar (Szymon) he'll probably show you [13:49:01] https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Og%C3%B3lne#Content_Translation_beta_feature_is_now_available [13:49:46] is it enabled on meta? [13:50:03] I'd like to try it instead of this dreaded Special:Translate [13:50:33] MatmaRex_mobile: found it [13:50:44] the discussion looks pretty constructive, as far as I can understand [13:50:48] I love "o matkotragediawszystkowinaTara" :) [13:51:24] tfinc, saper, MatmaRex_mobile -- so many people around who know this language that I love reading (but cannot write) [13:52:13] afair you also can speak very well, don't you?:) [13:52:28] saper: I wouldn't say "very" :) [13:52:48] saper: ContentTranslation is not on meta. For now we focus on Wikipedia articles, but we are thinking about getting it to replace at least some of the functions of Special:Translate. [13:52:59] worst case we can switch to Russian [13:53:10] aharoni: I need to translate Privacy Policy (again) [13:53:29] aharoni: maybe I can do it on some test wiki :) [14:35:37] aharoni: so what is your issue with ResourceLoader exactly? it seems to work correctly for me [14:36:22] MatmaRex: I am coding for ContentTranslation, so I want to go Special:ContentTranslation [14:36:32] when I'm on MediaWiki master, that page is broken [14:36:50] when I'm on 1.25.0-rc.0, it works [14:36:58] that's the high-level [14:37:12] also, when I'm on master, ?debug=true doesn't seem to have any effect [14:37:23] I get the minified JS [14:37:30] aharoni: broken, as in no javascript being served? [14:37:58] aharoni: can you open the JS console, go to the Network tab, and look at all load.php requests to see if any of them displays any PHP exceptions? [14:38:28] MatmaRex: yes [14:38:37] no js seems to be loaded [14:38:46] aharoni: Krinkle's rewrite changed some stuff, some things that shouldn't be done that worked before now cause exceptions [14:38:54] i actually ran into that myself just now [14:39:04] i had an old version of SyntaxHighlight extension that did not work now [14:39:12] that was fixed by 19a6005668ac731ee716abf507c4f8e280bcb950 [14:39:14] !gerrit 19a6005668ac731ee716abf507c4f8e280bcb950 [14:39:14] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,19a6005668ac731ee716abf507c4f8e280bcb950,n,z [14:40:53] aharoni: can i try that on beta or something? [14:40:58] reproduce* [14:41:23] MatmaRex: I have everything on my laptop... let me check labs [14:41:30] (hm, it actually seems to work correctly there, on http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation) [14:41:46] yes [14:42:00] but broken on my machine [14:42:24] but works on 1.25.0-rc.0 [14:50:52] MatmaRex: wtf, now it works. No idea what changed. [14:51:01] haha [14:51:37] oh no, it doesn't, I'm an idiot [14:51:48] looked at a wrong URL [14:51:57] still broken [14:52:04] a day of bugs everywhere [15:21:55] bd808: don't suppose you've encountered https://dpaste.de/9w2Y in your `vagrant up` travels? [15:23:25] MC8: looking at it with _joe_ [15:24:03] looks like we may have a broken package... [15:24:31] THE hhvm packaging guy is sitting next to me and he says "OH I can fix that!" [16:21:02] hey, could someone give me some indication of what needs to be in the apache2.4 virtual host definition to enable the EventLogging extension, which listens on port :8080 for access to the file event.gif [16:46:59] hi mediawikites [16:47:11] is anyone a Special:RecentChangesLinked expert? [16:47:56] probably someone is [16:48:41] I'm trying to figure out how to use it on a category of users, and see if I can get most recent changes on their talk pages [16:54:42] My logo is not showing up. There is no img tag for it in the home page source. I've set $wgLogo. I see nothing in the logs. Permissions look right. What next? [16:56:14] , [16:56:19] karlpinc: which skin are you using? [16:57:10] MC8: The default. vector I believe [16:57:35] My logo is 135xsomething smaller [16:57:53] the logo is not an img tag, but a background-image [16:57:55] developing plugin. is there any way to force returnto=MainPage on particular page? [16:58:09] trying to avoid returnto=logout page [16:58:26] Vulpix: Thanks. Let me look at the html again then. [16:58:27] to prevent logout right after login [17:00:15] Allrigtie. My problem. I gave $wgLogo a filesystem path, not a path relative to document root. Thanks. [17:00:55] :) [17:01:56] While I'm here. After install I had a problem connecting to the db. It displayed on the browser when trying to access the home page but nothing showed in the logs. I know I can call error_log() from foo.php and get an error in the log. Is there a way I can get mediawiki to log all it's errors? [17:02:16] "It" being the error message about a db connection problem. [17:02:31] !debug [17:02:31] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [17:03:13] Vulpix: Thanks, I looked at debugging. But I don't want debug messages showing up, just mediawiki error conditions, problems with php execution, etc. [17:03:49] php errors can be logged to a file, there's a php.ini config variable for this I think [17:04:10] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3531703/how-to-log-errors-and-warnings-into-a-file [17:05:10] Vulpix: That's already happening. But mediawiki clearly raises some errors and they don't get logged. [17:07:52] there's $wgDBerrorLog [17:07:53] Vulpix: Or at least mediawiki knows it's got an error. I really don't what this stuff going to a browser -- much better to have it logged to a file. Not really an immediate concern, just something so that if there is another problem I've got something I can go back and look at. (Hopefully in more detail than just "problem connecting to the database".) [17:09:45] I guess that's a start. Be nice if I could do something to log all issues. Thanks. [17:17:24] I will let you know when I see addshore around here [17:17:24] @notify addshore [17:54:21] I am getting this error: mysqld: The table 'recentchanges' is full - I am not finding anything on this - any suggestions? [18:00:30] malaverdiere: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/full-table.html [18:00:54] oy - docker filled my disk! [18:01:03] :( [19:28:22] hi [19:28:47] what are some posibilites to hide pages? better to say to change visibility [19:29:38] !access [19:29:38] For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [19:30:09] but be aware that such content will probable be leaked with one way or other [19:30:11] !cms [19:30:11] Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [19:32:55] Vulpix: well, that sound pretty complicated to change user rights to be able to change page visibility for them [19:33:40] unless the entire wiki is made private, content of pages can be leaked easily using the api, special pages or simple transclusion [19:34:20] mediawiki purposely doesn't have complex access restriction features [19:54:32] hey, i notice that the arrow icons for recent changes on the latest REL1_25 on git doesn't work yet, is this expected behaviour or have i missed something during migration? [19:58:03] ok [20:25:06] hey guys... i've installed mediawiki, it said installation is complete, but when I open index.php it says localSettings.php was detected and asks me to enter the Upgrade Key.. so I entered the upgrade Key, once again... "Upgrade complete." and "You can now start using your wiki" [20:25:23] but the link takes me to site.com/index.php/index.php [20:25:56] and when i try to open /index.php it once again tells me "Upgrade complete." [20:26:00] any ideas? [20:27:05] your redirects are messed up somewhere [20:27:40] probably on your web server [20:29:55] RobotsOnDrugs, but even when trying to access index.php directly, it still shows me the Installation [20:31:12] the installation was probably messed up because you have bad rewrites/redirects [20:32:20] or you have some bad settings in LocalSettings.php [20:33:10] $wgScriptPath and $wgArticlePath and/or some related settings [20:46:37] RobotsOnDrugs, $wgScriptPath = "/index.php"; [20:46:55] No article path [20:47:06] there's your problem [20:47:30] What should I change it to? [20:47:35] I didn't do it... Installation did that :D [20:47:43] !wg ScriptPath [20:47:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgScriptPath [20:49:37] I changed it to "/" [20:49:43] Did that work? [20:49:46] but it still tries to send me to index.php/index.php [20:49:50] do i need to restart somehow? [20:49:56] Not for PHP changes. [20:50:03] You just need to make sure you write to the LocalSettings.php file. [20:50:13] Redirects can sometimes get cached in your browser. [20:50:18] You can use curl to verify what's actually happening. [20:50:19] have you tried to setup shorturls by any chance? [20:50:21] Is your wiki public? [20:50:28] Can you provide a link? [20:50:39] Fiona, it's private [20:50:53] Well, curl -I "http://..." [20:51:02] That'll tell you what's going on when you request index.php. [20:51:18] sounds like a trip to the installation docs would be good too, especially if you are setting up short urls [20:51:23] What kind of Web server? Apache? [20:51:34] yeah [20:51:55] Did you do any customization in .htaccess or /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/whatever ? [20:53:01] slava__: Is this a new wiki installation? [20:53:07] Yes it's new [20:53:18] So you went through the installer and generated LocalSettings.php? [20:53:25] Yes and copied it over [20:53:30] where index.php is [20:53:32] And then put LocalSettings.php in the same folder as index.php ? [20:53:33] Okay. [20:54:10] What is your Web server configuration? [20:54:26] It seems like you pointed the Web root to /mw-config/ instead of the root directory, somehow. [20:55:42] hmm i don't see mw-config in the LocalSettings anywhere [20:55:49] Did you set up the Web server? [20:55:53] Yeah [20:55:55] The Apache configuration? [20:55:59] What did you put in there? [20:56:15] You can pastebin your Apache configuration. Sanitize or whatever if you want first. [20:56:20] kk [21:00:27] Fiona, httpd is 10k lines long.. generated by Cpanel.. what am i looking for? :) [21:04:50] Look for the relevant hostname. [21:05:12] There's probably a section referencing "/var/www/" or wherever your files are on the file system. [21:05:24] Because somewhere you have to tell Apache the file path to consider the Web root. [21:05:32] And from that Web root, all files appear under /. [21:05:44] So search through that file for where it does that and make sure it's correct. [21:06:18] Ohh [21:06:23] DocumentRoot /home/pcnet/public_html/wiki/mw-config [21:06:54] Totally called that. [21:06:56] Just saying. [21:06:59] Anyway, fix that and you should be good. [21:07:07] Wikipedia does a folder called "w". [21:07:23] So that it's en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php and that gets translated to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ [21:07:26] But you can do whatever you want. [21:07:35] Just don't point to mw-config, that's the wrong index.php. :-) [21:07:39] We should probably rename that file [21:07:39] . [21:08:04] But I guess it's also useful for mw-config/ to know auto-point there... blah. [21:09:14] slava__: So in general, you visit mw-config/index.php, run through the installer, download LocalSettings.php, and then put LocalSettings.php in the same folder as load.php and api.php and index.php. [21:09:32] Your DocumentRoot is wrong and needs to be fixed to remove "/mw-config". [21:09:36] I just ate a large cupcake. [21:09:38] It was delicious. [21:31:34] I wish I could eat a cup cake.. I am on a diet now ... need to lose 20lbs :P [22:17:09] Might be nice if the installer would save LocalSettings.php somewhere as an optional alternative to downloading it over an insecure link.