[06:27:49] <debdog2>	 ahoy everyboody! Need help on uploading files on mediawiki 1.24.2 which I've installed on a vserver. I am getting error/warning "Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public". "
[06:28:42] <debdog2>	 I've been following instructions on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads
[06:31:57] <debdog2>	 searched the web for solutions and it's been suggested to chown /images. the vserver seems to have user and group "apache" but I am not allowed to change the directory's owner. for testing purpose I've set permissions to 777 but still getting the same error
[06:35:13] <debdog2>	 the vserver's PHP version is 5.6.6
[06:36:55] <debdog2>	 I am a total noob with PHP and web servers. any hint is appreciated!
[06:41:31] <MaxSem>	 debdog2, selinux/apparmor/parent directory permissions?
[06:45:23] <debdog2>	 MaxSem: searched the hoster's wiki for selinux and apparmore - did not reply any hits. checking if it works if parent dir is 777, too....
[06:52:58] <debdog2>	 MaxSem: selinuxenabled returend 0. I think I read something about that on the wiki. let me check...
[07:26:41] <MC8>	 is / a valid username char?
[07:27:43] <MaxSem>	 no
[07:28:18] <MaxSem>	 because it would create confusion between user pages and subpages
[07:46:41] <Juandev>	 hi
[07:46:58] <Juandev>	 how works an automate invitation to someones discussion page?
[07:47:46] <Fiona>	 That's not an answerable question.
[07:47:49] <Fiona>	 What are you asking?
[07:54:39] <ori>	 Juandev: do you mean {{ping|Fiona}}?
[07:54:48] <Juandev>	 lol
[07:55:20] <Juandev>	 ori: no I dont think so it is ping, which wiki?
[07:57:12] <bawolff>	 Juandev: Just link to the user page, ping is a template which automates it
[07:59:20] <Fiona>	 Only on wikis that have Echo enabled.
[07:59:26] <Juandev>	 bawolff: I see and err, ok, let me see onw. I need just that template?
[07:59:38] <Juandev>	 ah echo ok
[08:21:38] <debdog2>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SELinux "After building the PHP fileinfo extension:"  --  How would I build that?
[08:22:00] * debdog2 never used selinux
[08:50:30] <DIrk__>	 morning. i try to install a forum on mediawiki. i try to install dplforum. But it didn't work. There is nothing at the specialssite to konfigure
[08:50:34] <DIrk__>	 -k +c
[08:59:25] <DIrk__>	 somebody have an alternative for forum area for media wiki?
[09:02:01] <Fiona>	 Hi DIrk__.
[09:02:02] <Fiona>	 It's late.
[09:02:17] <DIrk__>	 ?
[09:02:21] <Fiona>	 Forum software doesn't usually integrate well with MediaWiki.
[09:03:41] <DIrk__>	 hmpf :/
[09:33:14] <matt_flaschen>	 richa, https://github.com/phpredis/phpredis#php-session-handler
[09:41:54] <DIrk__>	 can somebody help me with the mediawiki joomla bridge?
[12:51:27] <Iman>	 Hello
[12:53:30] <Guest69473>	 My Wikipedia Bot is approved. I am using Pywikibot library and my system is developed using Django framework and is deployed on Amazon Elastic Beanstalk.
[12:56:27] <Guest69473>	 My problem is that I install Pywikibot, generate the user-config.py file, and log in via EB console and it returns the logged in status. However, when my program wants to post something it returns an error message saying that the user-confit file is incomplete.
[12:57:38] <Guest69473>	 How can I figure out the location of the user-config.py file that Pywikibot is using at the time?
[12:59:54] <Krenair>	 Guest69473, hmm... doesn't pywikibot have it's own channel?
[13:01:21] <Guest69473>	 I was not able to find any!
[13:06:21] <PywikibotUser>	 My Wikipedia Bot is approved. I am using Pywikibot library and my system is developed using Django framework and is deployed on Amazon Elastic Beanstalk.
[13:06:41] <PywikibotUser>	 My problem is that I install Pywikibot, generate the user-config.py file, and log in via EB console and it returns the logged in status. However, when my program wants to post something it returns an error message saying that the user-confit file is incomplete.
[13:09:52] <Guest69473>	 Do you know forum or website that I can ask my question about PyWikibot?
[13:10:29] <Niharika>	 #pywikibot might be a good place for that. 
[13:11:25] <Guest69473>	 Thank you so much.
[14:21:49] <Richlv>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki says 1.25 was released in march :)
[14:22:01] <Richlv>	 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.25#MediaWiki_1.25.0 still says "THIS IS NOT A RELEASE YET"
[14:22:10] <Richlv>	 but there was an announcement email
[14:22:11] <MatmaRex>	 ostriches: ^
[14:22:18] <MatmaRex>	 legoktm: ^
[14:23:00] <ostriches>	 We're working through mw.org docs now
[14:23:08] <ostriches>	 Like 4901209219090 templates to update
[14:24:20] <Krenair>	 done
[14:24:46] <Krenair>	 Richlv, https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:MW_stable_release_date&diff=1657638&oldid=1508988
[14:25:21] <ostriches>	 James_F: We did have to fix that template.
[14:25:23] <ostriches>	 ^^^
[14:25:29] <ostriches>	 Poorly named template....
[14:25:44] <James_F>	 Huh, I fixed that. Didn't save, maybe.
[14:26:20] <Richlv>	 Krenair, yay :)
[14:26:31] <Krenair>	 I also updated the news on the main page
[14:26:39] <Krenair>	 I have a list of things that need updating somewhere
[14:26:55] <Krenair>	 (that sometimes in the past other people have missed)
[14:26:56] <Fiona>	 There's a list on the wiki somewhere.
[14:27:10] <Fiona>	 It includes updating the channel topic and other important matters.
[14:36:57] <ostriches>	 We are going through said list.
[14:38:12] <James_F>	 Krenair: Yeah, you edit conflicted with me on one of them. :-)
[14:38:13] <Fiona>	 Pix.
[14:38:30] <Krenair>	 Does 1.19 support end now or on sunday?
[14:38:36] <Fiona>	 1.25 on 2015-05-25
[14:38:57] <ostriches>	 Now.
[14:38:58] <ostriches>	 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2015-May/000177.html
[14:39:12] <ostriches>	 James_F: Sent ^
[14:39:12] <Fiona>	 I recently upgraded a wiki from 1.9 to 1.26alpha.
[14:39:21] <Fiona>	 update.php seemed to update the DB without any issue.
[14:39:23] <James_F>	 ostriches: Nice.
[14:39:37] <Fiona>	 It was pleasantly surprising.
[14:40:34] <ostriches>	 Fiona: Well that's what it's supposed to do :)
[14:40:47] <ostriches>	 It only gets hairy if you go pre-1.5 schema rewrite
[14:40:58] <Krenair>	 heh
[14:41:16] <Fiona>	 I should write an e-mail about my experience. Parts of it were great.
[14:41:24] <Krenair>	 I just noticed that the IP I blocked with a link to uncyclopedia was a Canadian government one
[14:41:27] <Fiona>	 Skins setup was handled really nicely.
[14:41:55] <Fiona>	 The LightNCandy error message made me rage, but I think it just got fixed.
[14:43:16] <Krenair>	 well, provincial government
[14:47:02] <ostriches>	 Fiona: Should be fixed I think
[14:47:53] <Fiona>	 \o/
[15:26:38] <pabs3>	 how do I upgrade from 1.19? which is the next LTS to upgrade to?
[15:28:29] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading and 1.23
[15:32:29] <twoi>	 1.24 is actually the latest LTS version, 1.25 came out yesterday too iirc
[15:33:00] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 i'm seeing conflicting information on the wiki
[15:33:20] <Reedy>	 If 1.23 was previously designated an LTS, 1.24 isn't going to be an LTS
[15:33:23] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 doesn't make sense for 1.23 and 1.24 to both be LTS
[15:33:35] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 but there are boxes on the wiki saying that they both are
[15:34:15] <Reedy>	 Hmm, it seems so
[15:34:16] <pabs3>	 confusing
[15:34:54] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 indeed
[15:34:58] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.23 conflicts itself
[15:35:44] <Reedy>	 The people who'd probably know are likely travelling
[15:35:48] <Reedy>	 hexmode: About?
[15:36:35] <bawolff>	 Everyone is in the demo session right now
[15:36:37] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MWReleases doesn't say 1.24 is LTS
[15:36:51] <Reedy>	 But it's usage on 1.23 says 1.24 is LTS
[15:36:55] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 Reedy: i think someone messed up Template:MWReleases and the fixed version isn't everywhere yet because of caching or something
[15:37:03] <Reedy>	 Looks to be htat
[15:37:59] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 also, shouldn't a link to 1.23 be on the main page since it is the latest LTS?
[15:38:00] <Reedy>	 pabs3: I'd go with 1.13
[15:38:07] <Reedy>	 *1.23
[15:38:21] <Reedy>	 4 versions between LTS sounds familiar as to what was decided on
[15:38:41] <bawolff>	 I think it maybe is translate's fault (?)
[15:38:56] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 bawolff: no, the template page is correct
[15:38:56] <Reedy>	 Could be
[15:39:34] <Reedy>	 MediaWiki 1.25 (stable)
[15:39:35] <Reedy>	 MediaWiki 1.25 (alpha)
[15:39:38] <Reedy>	 That also amuses me
[15:39:50] <bawolff>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MWReleases/en does not have a correct output
[15:40:07] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 ah, you are correct
[15:40:30] * bawolff really doesn't understand how translate works
[15:41:40] <Reedy>	 That's just seriously odd
[15:42:09] <bawolff>	 I think the change is not marked for translation...
[15:42:22] * bawolff tries to make myself a translator and hopefully doesn't totally screw it up
[15:42:34] <Reedy>	 Translate this page; This page has changes since it was last marked for translation.
[15:42:38] <Reedy>	 I can do it
[15:42:43] <Reedy>	 And grant you translator too
[15:42:58] <Reedy>	 −	
[15:42:58] <Reedy>	 legacy - {{abbr|Long Term Support|LTS}}
[15:43:01] <Reedy>	 +	
[15:43:01] <Reedy>	 legacy
[15:43:01] <Reedy>	 Yup, that's it
[15:44:00] <bawolff>	 I granted myself
[15:44:03] <Reedy>	 It's like FR inside Translate
[15:44:03] <twoi>	 going back to the original question, which is the true LTS version?
[15:44:04] <Reedy>	 ;D
[15:44:08] <Reedy>	 twoi: 1.23
[15:44:14] <bawolff>	 The cabal made me a crat yesterday ;)
[15:46:27] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMWReleases&type=revision&diff=1657644&oldid=1657623
[15:46:29] <Reedy>	 Bad James_F|Away
[15:46:56] <Krenair>	 speaking of translate, someone wanted it installed on wikitech :/
[15:47:17] <bawolff>	 ugh, its still broken
[15:47:53] <valhallasw>	 Krenair: yes, although I forgot what for. Tool labs docs or something?
[15:48:00] <Krenair>	 I've asked
[15:48:05] <Krenair>	 It was Amir: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100313
[15:48:40] <bawolff>	 I really don't understand the translate ext
[15:49:04] <valhallasw>	 bawolff: you add translate tags, and then magically translated versions appear
[15:49:35] <valhallasw>	 everybody loves magic!
[15:49:37] <Reedy>	 bawolff: you add translate tags, and then magically out of date translated versions appear
[15:49:45] <bawolff>	 valhallasw: I mean I don't understand how to unbork {{MWReleases}}
[15:50:03] <valhallasw>	 ?action=purge all the things?
[15:51:01] <valhallasw>	 huh, that's odd
[15:51:06] <Reedy>	 I wonder if I should just delete https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MWReleases/en
[15:51:06] <Reedy>	 :D
[15:51:35] <valhallasw>	 not the worst idea
[15:51:52] <Reedy>	 (change visibility) 15:51, 25 May 2015 FuzzyBot (Talk | contribs | block) deleted page Template:MWReleases/en (Part of translation page "Template:MWReleases/en".) (view/restore)
[15:51:54] <bawolff>	 I did, now its really borked
[15:51:55] <Reedy>	 The bot did it
[15:52:06] <bawolff>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.22
[15:52:14] <MC8>	 that was nice of it
[15:52:59] <valhallasw>	 ok I think I got the edit screen
[15:53:06] <valhallasw>	 edit /en, switch to ducth, switch back to english
[15:53:51] <valhallasw>	 but that doesn't allow me to actually edit
[15:54:28] <Glaisher>	 You're supposed to make a blank edit, then mark it for translation again to propagate the up to date revision.
[15:54:58] <Glaisher>	 Fixed.
[15:55:57] <Reedy>	 Yay
[15:59:19] <bawolff>	 This is a silly system...
[16:01:38] <Glaisher>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48716 and the huge list of see also bugs
[16:47:10] <BlaXpirit>	 Hello. I have a private MediaWiki installation, and I'm trying to use a bot for it. However, "Bot operation is not allowed for this account".
[16:47:19] <BlaXpirit>	 How to approve a bot account?
[17:06:32] <Chris____>	 update.php says "Error: 1142 ALTER command denied to user 'mswikiuser'@'localhost' for table 'mswiki_page_props' (localhost)"  How do I fix this? (upgrading 1.23 to 1.25)
[17:07:31] <Krenair>	 Chris____, is your mediawiki user not allowed to alter tables?
[17:07:47] <Krenair>	 do you have another user which can?
[17:08:34] <Chris____>	 How do I find out?  
[17:08:59] <Chris____>	 1.23 has been running smoothly for me
[17:09:55] <Krenair>	 have you ever upgraded your mediawiki install?
[17:10:01] <Krenair>	 check your mysql grants
[17:10:21] <BlaXpirit>	 answer to my question:  /Special:UserRights   add user to   bot  group
[17:11:21] <Chris____>	 No, I never upgraded from 1.23
[17:12:02] <Krenair>	 BlaXpirit, probably some part of the bot was giving that error..
[17:12:19] <BlaXpirit>	 the message itself is from the bot, yes
[17:12:23] <Krenair>	 Chris____, log into mysql and run show grants;?
[17:12:25] <Krenair>	 as mediawiki
[17:12:26] <BlaXpirit>	 but the error is not specific to it
[17:13:38] <wmat>	 when does REL1_25 hit the git repo?
[17:13:51] <Chris____>	 GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'mswikiuser'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD ... GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE ON `mswikidb`.* TO 'mswikiuser'@'%' 
[17:14:11] <Krenair>	 wmat, it's already in the git repo
[17:14:15] <Krenair>	 Chris____, is that it?
[17:14:30] <Reedy>	 REL1_25 branch has been there for ages
[17:14:31] <Reedy>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/tree/REL1_25
[17:14:37] <Krenair>	 Chris____, that's not enough to run the update script
[17:14:38] <Reedy>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/releases/tag/1.25.0
[17:15:07] <wmat>	 really? I just did git branch -r and didn't see it. 
[17:15:14] * wmat looks again
[17:15:25] <Krenair>	 you might need to git fetch or something?
[17:16:48] <Krenair>	 Chris____, do you control your mysql instance?
[17:21:20] <Chris____>	 yes
[17:24:30] <Chris____>	 so do I need a "GRANT ALL ON 'mswikidb.*' TO 'mswikiuser'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY ... ?
[17:25:51] <Krenair>	 Chris____, wikimedia has a separate user for this, see https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-puppet/blob/HEAD/templates/mariadb/production-grants-core.sql.erb
[17:27:48] <Krenair>	 basically if it's being run from the command line (a maintenance script) then $wgDBadminuser and $wgDBadminpassword can also be set
[17:30:01] <Chris____>	 A separate use for what?  For upgrading?  If so, why is update.php it not using it?
[17:30:27] <Krenair>	 for maintenance scripts, including update.php
[17:30:34] <Krenair>	 (wikimedia doesn't actually run update.php, but still)
[17:30:51] <Krenair>	 you presumably didn't actually set it?
[17:31:18] <wmat>	 Reedy: is the Github repo the one to point at these days?  I'm still pointing at gerrit.wikimedia.org
[17:32:20] <Krenair>	 everyone uploads commits to gerrit.wikimedia.org, and from there it gets replicated to github and git.wikimedia.org
[17:32:32] <Reedy>	 github tends to be easier to browse imho
[17:32:42] <wmat>	 k, thanks
[17:32:52] <Krenair>	 but yes, github is easier to browse, and you probably don't need to upload anything
[17:33:07] <Chris____>	 Where do I find info on how to set it?
[17:33:40] <Krenair>	 Chris____, you set it in LocalSettings.php or wherever you set your wgDBuser/wgDBpassword
[17:34:56] <Vulpix>	 Chris____: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBadminuser
[17:34:58] <Krenair>	 you can see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBadminpassword and similar pages but they won't tell you anything particularly new
[17:43:14] <Chris____>	 Ah, I may have skipped it because that page says "In newer versions it can still be set along with $wgDBadminpassword in LocalSettings.php, but is optional." and I guess I assumed it was optional.
[17:44:25] <Krenair>	 it is optional
[17:44:35] <ePirat>	 Hello
[17:44:37] <Krenair>	 you don't *have* to have separate users
[17:44:48] <ePirat>	 can I somehow get a more descriptive error message than "Failed to connect to database 0 at 127.0.0.1"?
[17:45:03] <ePirat>	 (for debugging purpose)
[17:45:12] <Krenair>	 is that a message displayed to users?
[17:45:15] <ePirat>	 no
[17:45:18] <ePirat>	 debug log message
[17:45:28] <Krenair>	 oh, probably
[17:45:46] <Krenair>	 are you still trying to debug an issue I could help with? or are you just asking for more info for the next time?
[17:45:59] <ePirat>	 still trying to debug an issue
[17:46:04] <Krenair>	 okay
[17:46:12] <Krenair>	 can you connect from your web server machine to the db?
[17:46:16] <ePirat>	 yes
[17:46:29] <Krenair>	 using the same db user, pass, etc.?
[17:46:35] <ePirat>	 yep
[17:46:38] <Krenair>	 selecting the db?
[17:47:21] <ePirat>	 yes, before connecting, it will not work afterwards.
[17:47:51] <Krenair>	 wait, so... you can connect, right? but not do anything else?
[17:48:13] <ePirat>	 with postgres I can specify the db when connecting.
[17:48:32] <ePirat>	 it will not work afterwards, because that's how my security settings are
[17:48:39] <Krenair>	 ah, postgres...
[17:49:00] <Krenair>	 unfortunately I've only ever played with mysql
[17:51:03] <Krenair>	 can you open up an interactive php prompt with `php -a` and var_dump( pg_connect( 'host=example.com user=pgsql dbname=postgres' ) ); ?
[17:52:37] <ePirat>	 *derp* seems I am missing the pg_ database functions in php…
[17:52:56] <ePirat>	 shouldn't that be in the error log?
[17:54:12] <Krenair>	 there's some interesting error logging changes going on around that pg_connect call in mediawiki
[17:55:12] <Krenair>	 it could be completely broken
[17:55:36] <Krenair>	 I don't know how many of us would notice if postgres connectivity was completely broken, to be honest
[17:56:17] <Krenair>	 ePirat, it should have detected this: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php#L373
[17:56:42] <ePirat>	 Krenair, installed the pgsql php, works now
[17:58:05] <Krenair>	 congrats
[18:01:41] <ePirat>	 thanks a lot for the help
[18:02:08] <Krenair>	 yw
[18:12:38] <Chris____>	 exit
[18:13:45] <dlo>	 Getting this error.  "Failed to set the local repo temp zone container to be private."  Perhaps I need an .htaccess somewhere... but where?
[18:16:41] <Krenair>	 dlo, interesting...
[18:18:11] <Krenair>	 dlo, this is in the installer?
[18:18:17] <Krenair>	 from the command line?
[18:20:36] <dlo>	 From php maintenance/update.php (upgrading to 1.25).  But all seems to be working with the wiki.
[18:21:04] <Krenair>	 updater, right, sorry
[18:21:22] <Krenair>	 okay, open up includes/installer/DatabaseUpdater.php in your favourite text editor
[18:21:33] <Krenair>	 find the line that says this:				$this->output( "Set the local repo temp zone container to be private.\n" );
[18:21:49] <Krenair>	 uh... actually the else part of that: $this->output( "Failed to set the local repo temp zone container to be private.\n" );
[18:21:55] <Krenair>	 should be around line 918
[18:22:18] <Krenair>	 add a new line like this: $this->output( $status->getWikiText() );
[18:22:25] <Krenair>	 then try again and see what comes out
[18:23:55] <dlo>	 * Could not write file "mwstore&#58;//local-backend/local-temp/index.html". * Could not write file "mwstore&#58;//local-backend/local-temp/.htaccess".
[18:25:56] <Krenair>	 .htaccess, huh, okay. clearly you know more than me about file backends :p
[18:27:35] <dlo>	 That's okay I guess--if all is working I'll just ignore it for now.  I just do not recall ever setting any local-backend
[18:27:56] <Krenair>	 dlo, to be honest it looks like the contents of those files should be '' and 'Deny from all\n' respectively based on https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/includes/filebackend/FSFileBackend.php#L738-L749
[18:28:08] <Krenair>	 it's the default file upload backend iirc
[18:28:24] <Krenair>	 I imagine that if you created these files in the right locations it'd shut up
[18:50:17] <dlo>	 exit
[19:14:32] <Cory_>	 I'm trying to create a widget page (contains anchor and script tags). 
[19:14:57] <Cory_>	 When trying to save the page, I'm getting the message Forbidden
[19:14:57] <Cory_>	 You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server.
[19:15:30] <Krenair>	 so you can't submit the edit?
[19:15:41] <Krenair>	 does this happen with any other form? e.g. search?
[19:15:51] <Cory_>	 Krenair: No, I can't
[19:16:19] <Cory_>	 YOu mean just a general search?
[19:16:26] <Cory_>	 for a random page?
[19:17:39] <Krenair>	 You get a 403 in response to submitting the edit form, so I'm wondering if you get a similar response when you try to submit another form
[19:17:49] <Krenair>	 I don't really care what you put into the form
[19:18:37] <Cory_>	 No, no error when doing a search.
[19:19:05] <Cory_>	 And no error when submitting an edit in general.
[19:19:59] <Cory_>	 I'm suspecting it has something to do with the presence of <a> and <script> elements.
[19:20:02] <Krenair>	 just an error when submitting this page?
[19:20:04] <Krenair>	 yeah...
[19:20:26] <Krenair>	 okay, what if you try to search for something with those tags in?
[19:21:18] <Krenair>	 are you using mod_security?
[19:22:26] <Cory_>	 It accepts the search with an <a> tag.
[19:22:31] <Cory_>	 IT's a shared server
[19:22:40] <Cory_>	 Yes, they have mod_sec enabled.
[19:23:27] <Krenair>	 are you able to set up .htaccess files?
[19:23:34] <bawolff>	 mod_sec is evil...
[19:24:31] <Cory_>	 Ha. That's something I'd have to investigate. The host is NameCheap...
[19:25:51] <Krenair>	 if you are, try SecRuleEngine Off
[19:25:57] <Cory_>	 Quick google search, yes, I think I have access to .htaccess file.
[19:27:00] <Krenair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ModSecurity suggests you could just do SecRuleRemoveById 950907 instead...
[19:27:38] <Cory_>	 I have .htaccess open now.
[19:27:52] <Cory_>	 It says RewriteEngine On
[19:28:16] <Cory_>	 Oops, you said SecRuleEngine Off
[19:29:46] <Cory_>	 You mean ## Fixes a problem for certain content of wiki pages.                                                                                                   
[19:29:46] <Cory_>	 <LocationMatch "/index.php.*">
[19:29:46] <Cory_>	         SecRuleRemoveById 950907
[19:29:47] <Cory_>	 </LocationMatch>
[19:30:09] <Cory_>	 What exactly should I add to .htaccess, and where?
[19:36:27] <Krenair>	 Cory_, the rule given, SecRuleRemoveById 950907
[19:36:40] <Krenair>	 I don't know where, I can't read your mind to see what's in your file
[19:37:55] <Cory_>	 Sorry, I just didn't know if there were rules about where things go in an htaccess file. 
[19:38:21] <Cory_>	 Just to clarify, is are the LocationMatch tags to be included as well?
[19:38:59] <Cory_>	 I'm guessing, yes.
[19:52:52] <Cory_>	 I tried both suggested solutions and now get the erro message Internal Server Error
[19:52:53] <Cory_>	 The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[19:53:22] <Krenair>	 hm.
[19:53:29] <Krenair>	 can you see the apache error logs?
[19:56:47] <Cory_>	 Not sure where those would be located...
[19:57:05] <Cory_>	 I see an access-logs directory, but it's empty.
[20:11:22] <Cory_>	 Krenair: I appreciate your help. I think I'm just going to contact NameCheap support, see what they can do.
[21:08:46] <Juandev>	 do we have any message which can be used to leave a fixed text on userpage?
[21:37:55] <nemesus>	 hello. The mediawiki Upgrade to 1.25 doesn´t work for me. 
[21:38:32] <bawolff>	 nemesus: There's a known issue with QuestyCaptcha that is bundled with 1.25.0. There will be a fix out soon for that issue
[21:39:25] <bawolff>	 nemesus: Actually, I should ask first, what issue did you encounter, and was it the extension.json in QuestyCaptcha was invalid issue?
[21:40:06] <nemesus>	 I just don´t know. It shows a white page when I go to /mw-config/
[21:43:07] <nemesus>	 The last updates worked well. But trying to get it work the same way just leads to a blank page. I also tried to delete my wiki folder and install a clean new version. - Nothing
[21:44:03] <nemesus>	 My requirements are o.k.
[21:44:34] <bawolff>	 nemesus: Can you enable php error reporting?
[21:44:45] <Lcawte>	 legoktm: See above ?
[21:44:52] <bawolff>	 or look in your php error log for a php error
[21:46:43] <nemesus>	 I will do so in next days. In moment I try to get my old wiki back. 
[21:47:33] <nemesus>	 May be there will be a patch in next days, solving this problem. Has anyone alreaydy done the new update without problems? 
[21:48:42] <bawolff>	 nemesus: Well there is going to be a patch for ConfirmEdit very soon, but that doesn't sound like your issue
[21:49:04] <bawolff>	 An actual php error message would be helpful in assessing if there is something wrong with the tarball
[21:50:33] <Krenair>	 nemesus, bawolff: A new release is being prepared to fix ConfirmEdit
[21:51:20] <bawolff>	 Krenair: The confirmEdit issue would not cause a fatal in the installer correct?
[21:51:22] <Krenair>	 nemesus, you need to send us the error, only then can it actually be patched, unless it's the one we know about
[21:51:30] <Lcawte>	 Krenair: If there is another issue, we rather important issue like this, we should probably find out what it is, and stop legoktm before he finishes releasing it (he's running around trying to prep it now)
[21:51:55] * bawolff actually doesn't know if installer loads bundled exts automatically or something
[21:52:10] <Krenair>	 bawolff, I don't think it would cause that, correct..
[21:52:50] <nemesus>	 My problem is, I just don´t know how to enable php error reporting
[21:53:31] <bawolff>	 !blankpage
[21:53:31] <wm-bot>	 A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug>.
[21:54:07] <bawolff>	 nemesus: Probably its already enabled, and just put in a file called something like /var/log/php/error_log
[21:54:13] <bawolff>	 or something like that
[21:56:31] <nemesus>	 That´s very strange. I saved all files and DB before testing.
[21:57:07] <nemesus>	 Now I rewrite the old files to my folder. But the wiki shows also a white page
[21:57:38] <nemesus>	 http://www.plateau-trivial.de/wiki/
[21:59:10] <nemesus>	 My propvider had a hardware problem in last days. Maybe the system doesn´t work perfectly.
[21:59:20] <bawolff>	 nemesus: What OS and php version?
[22:00:34] <nemesus>	 http://www.plateau-trivial.de/info.php
[22:02:03] <bawolff>	 Well it meets the version requirements
[22:03:38] <MC8>	 nemesus: if you run `tail /var/log/apache2/error.log` do you get anything interesting?
[22:04:51] <nemesus>	 I do think I have no access to do this. 
[22:10:14] <nemesus>	 I will call my provider next day. If I have any news I will get here again. 
[22:10:21] <nemesus>	 Bye and thanks. 
[23:14:18] <Hazard-SJ>	 Wait, what? 1.25.1 already? *looks*
[23:14:59] <Hazard-SJ>	 "The 1.25.0 release had a JSON syntax error in the ConfirmEdit extension. You should download the 1.25.1 tarball instead."