[01:15:36] <gauthier>	 I'm trying to share extensions against several installs of mediawiki, all located in individual folders, I created a shared folder at the same level the wikis; and try to add require_once( "$IP/../shared/SharedLocalSettings.php");
[01:16:06] <gauthier>	 that doesn't seem to work, it prints the contents of my SharedLocalSettings file
[01:16:11] <gauthier>	 any idea how I can make this work?
[01:16:58] <Reedy>	 that sounds like the php isn't being executed then
[01:17:09] <Reedy>	 Are your php execution settings strict?
[01:17:26] <gauthier>	 Reedy: mmh actually I haven't put <?php, I think I'm dumb :)
[01:17:31] <Reedy>	 Or that
[01:17:32] <Reedy>	 Haha :D
[01:45:53] <ElGatoSaez>	 Hi.
[01:45:58] <ElGatoSaez>	 Anyone can help me?
[01:46:19] <ElGatoSaez>	 instantCommons is not working
[01:50:14] <ElGatoSaez>	 anyone?
[01:51:06] <GEOFBOT>	 stick around, someone will answer
[01:51:19] <ElGatoSaez>	 thanks
[01:54:10] <ElGatoSaez>	 GEOFBOT
[01:54:17] <GEOFBOT>	 ?
[01:54:30] <ElGatoSaez>	 ¿Are you a bot?
[01:55:04] <GEOFBOT>	 no, lol
[02:13:19] <GEOFBOT>	 ElGatoSaez, you installed to extensoins and enabled in LocalSettings?
[02:17:22] <ElGatoSaez>	 What extensions?
[02:17:26] <ElGatoSaez>	 I needed an extension?
[02:18:10] <ElGatoSaez>	 GEOFBOT
[02:18:22] <ElGatoSaez>	 I just needed $wgUseInstantCommons = true;
[02:18:23] <GEOFBOT>	 Are you on your own wiki or a wikiproject?
[02:18:28] <ElGatoSaez>	 my own wiki
[02:18:44] <GEOFBOT>	 scratch the extension part
[02:18:52] <ElGatoSaez>	 ¿what?
[02:19:03] <GEOFBOT>	 means ignore the extension aprt
[02:19:10] <GEOFBOT>	 do you have the firewall setup?
[02:19:22] <ElGatoSaez>	 idk
[02:21:25] <GEOFBOT>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons#Behind_a_firewall
[02:23:31] <GEOFBOT>	 ElGatoSaez, ^
[02:24:19] <ElGatoSaez>	 i aww
[02:37:39] <JeDa>	 Hi ElGatoSaez 
[02:37:40] <JeDa>	 ;P
[02:37:45] <ElGatoSaez>	 I see
[02:37:49] <Rango>	 hola a todos.
[02:39:36] <GEOFBOT>	 ElGatoSaez, anyways, I gotta go.  good luck
[02:39:43] <ElGatoSaez>	 gl
[02:39:45] <ElGatoSaez>	 thanks
[05:05:55] <Thufir>	 Stupid question: I'm running Mobile Frontend, and when I go to ?MediaWiki:Mobile.css I just get the main page. I'm trying to edit the Mobile.css. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
[05:19:48] <legoktm>	 ?title=MediaWiki:Mobile.css probably
[11:27:51] <sdaugherty>	 Is there an extension that disallows html tags in articles but continues to allow them in templates?
[11:32:04] <Vulpix>	 sdaugherty: the first thing it comes to my mind is AbuseFilter
[11:32:08] <Vulpix>	 !e AbuseFilter | sdaugherty 
[11:32:08] <wm-bot>	 sdaugherty: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter_
[11:34:39] <sdaugherty>	 ok, yeah that could work
[11:35:25] <sdaugherty>	 mught be more involved than I'd hoped for though.
[11:38:11] <Vulpix>	 you can put something like "if namespace = 0 and new_wikitext contains ( '<a', '<b', '<i', '<table' .... ) " as a rule (that's pseudocode, not the actual syntax of AbuseFilter)
[11:40:04] <sdaugherty>	 probably more effort than its worth 
[11:40:16] <sdaugherty>	 thanks though
[13:14:38] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 sdaugherty: you probably want widgets, which allow raw html in protected pages that can then be transcluded
[13:15:44] <RobotsOnDrugs>	  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widgets
[13:16:58] <sdaugherty>	 not exactly what I was going for. I'm interested in preventing the user of html tables, divs, inline styles, basically anything that's not "pure" mediawiki style markup from within articles.
[13:17:24] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 oh i see
[13:17:30] <sdaugherty>	 if it's not on the default edit toolbar I don't want it used in articles
[13:17:38] <sdaugherty>	 but it's fine in templates
[13:17:59] <sdaugherty>	 ie, I want to reduce complexity and creativity in articles as much as possible
[13:19:49] <sdaugherty>	 should have put "creativity" in quotes there.
[13:20:11] <sdaugherty>	 I don't want article writers to get ideas about being designers, basically.
[13:20:37] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 i would go with making simplicity more of a rule/guideline than trying to enforce it via technical means if AbuseFilter is more work than it's worth
[13:21:40] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 i don't think there's really an easy way to do what you want, especially if templates are exempt
[13:23:30] <sdaugherty>	 basically I don't want to cripple editors, I want to stop them from crippling each other with elaborate designs that can't be safely edited by inexperienced users.
[13:25:54] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 yeah, that sounds more like a cultural/community thing than something to be dealt with by reducing functionality
[13:26:02] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 (at least IMO)
[13:28:23] <sdaugherty>	 I'm a firm believer in always taking the technical solution, because the technical solution is the one that will actually stick.
[13:30:46] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 it will stick but it may not accomplish exactly what you want, and if you don't address it on the community side, you will have lots of misunderstanding and complaints
[13:32:07] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 i'm not saying not to pursue a technical means at all, but you should realize that any technical solution is a tool to help with a community issue
[13:33:36] <sdaugherty>	 Right, I get that much. A community solution doesn't stop people from mucking things up before they are fully engaged with the community though.
[13:35:05] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 true
[14:54:29] <Josse>	 Hello, what collation i have to select at phpmyadmin?
[14:56:36] <Vulpix>	 Josse: the preferred one is binary. Note that if you use the web installer, it can create the database and user for you
[15:02:43] <Josse>	 wat should i do with this error messages http://prntscr.com/7dtgni?
[15:05:45] <Vulpix>	 Josse: heh, and you've hit https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100497 :S
[15:06:22] <Vulpix>	 apparently, you need to install composer. or it failed to work somehow
[17:41:36] <Overand>	 Do I need to do anything "special" to get live preview to work?  I just upgraded from 1.24.2 to 1.25.1, enabled live preview in my prefs, but no dice.
[17:42:51] <Overand>	 Ah, nevermind
[17:43:56] <Overand>	 I maybe had misunderstood what live preview was - if it's "just" a post-less / reloadless preview when you hit the preview button, then it's working fine.
[17:45:02] <Overand>	 Yep.  Nevermind, then! =]  I put 'just' in quotes because it's a lovely feature
[17:47:24] <GEOFBOT>	 :P
[18:00:28] * Overand is debating installing VisualEditor in hopes that it'll help coworkers to actually edit the !@#$ing wiki
[18:00:45] <Overand>	 friggin' windows admins ;)
[18:00:49] <Krenair>	 haha
[18:00:58] <Krenair>	 windows admins can't handle the wikitext?
[18:01:02] <Overand>	 I mean, some can.
[18:01:11] <Overand>	 Ugh, you know what I hate about mediawiki, though?
[18:01:17] <Overand>	 It makes me want to pull out my hair...
[18:01:25] <Overand>	 when I use the textile-based wiki in redmine.  ;)
[18:02:19] <Krenair>	 textile-based in redmine? that's mediawiki?
[18:03:44] <Overand>	 No.  IT was a joke- mediawiki drives me nuts because it's so great by comparison, heh.
[18:03:52] <Overand>	 If only I hadn't ever used it!