[00:00:26] <potato_farmer>	 It's almost like the css isn't being read.
[00:00:31] <potato_farmer>	 The entire style is missing. 
[00:02:03] <potato_farmer>	 It was set to use the Vector skin before the upgrade. Once I upgrade, it all breaks. 
[00:09:58] <hope>	 hi guys, how to get the article text and displayed on main page based on the article title ?
[00:10:24] <hope>	 i am currently implementing a recent article and i am using the newest page extension and is currently showing me this (http://postimg.org/image/ywe57rr2n/)
[00:10:41] <hope>	 beside the link, i also want it to retrieve the content from that 3 page title. 
[00:11:11] <hope>	 i have tried this (https://dpaste.de/ma8k) adding codes to line 4 and line 5 of the newest page extension 
[00:11:21] <hope>	 but it is echo-ing out, how to display on the main page? :O 
[00:12:54] <legoktm>	 potato_farmer: have you tried using your browsers inspector to see if the CSS is being loaded?
[00:20:22] <potato_farmer>	 legoktm: yes I have, it's not loading the CSS
[00:27:19] <legoktm>	 potato_farmer: if you use ?action=info, what does it say the "content model" of the page is?
[00:28:48] <potato_farmer>	 legoktm: Thanks for the suggestions and the help. I found the issue. A user had misconfigured the wgServer setting. This is the dev version I am working on. While it matched the ops version all was fine. But as I upgraded the dev version, it was newer than the ops version (which was what wgServer was set to). All good know. 
[00:28:50] <potato_farmer>	 Thanks again. 
[00:29:07] <legoktm>	 potato_farmer: yay!
[01:24:09] <four>	 hi guys, i am currently using the bootstrap skin and i am implementing a dropdown menu
[01:24:24] <four>	 currently, it is able to expand when the dropdown is click
[01:24:41] <four>	 but is it possible to only expand when the arrow is clicked instead of the whole menu ?
[01:44:00] <GEOFBOT>	 four: hmmmmm
[01:45:49] <GEOFBOT>	 Never used the bootstrap mediawiki skin
[01:45:58] <GEOFBOT>	 but i fiddled with bootstrap in html
[01:46:33] <GEOFBOT>	 Maybe set the click event for the button to do nothing, and add a click event to the arrow?
[01:48:52] <four>	 hmm thanks will try it out
[01:49:02] <four>	 =)
[02:13:27] <GEOFBOT>	 collegeboard botched my sat >:|
[02:13:35] <GEOFBOT>	 scores are out tomorrow :O
[02:17:27] <four>	 not sure what is that, but seems to me to be resulted related
[02:17:29] <four>	 GOODLUCK:)
[02:17:38] <four>	 May the odds be with you!
[02:20:41] <GEOFBOT>	 :P thanks.  is a standardized test
[02:20:56] <GEOFBOT>	 they made a printing error on mine and took out 2 sections L.
[02:21:35] <GEOFBOT>	 and legions of angry parents stormed the online forums
[02:21:39] <GEOFBOT>	 forcing them to offer free retakes
[02:25:08] <four>	 wow. printing error
[02:25:11] <four>	 no quality check =p
[02:27:23] <GEOFBOT>	 The only error was that in the book it said we had 25 minutes for one section
[02:27:45] <GEOFBOT>	 when in reality we had 20 minutes (the correct time was said aloud by the proctor)
[02:28:04] <four>	 ahhhhh i seee
[02:28:13] <four>	 i thought different in content 
[02:28:21] <GEOFBOT>	 but because all the tests are different they took out two sections, both of which could have been the problem section
[02:28:42] <GEOFBOT>	 at my testing place no one complained if they noticed at all
[02:28:53] <GEOFBOT>	 but at some other places there was apparently a lot of drama and bureaucracy
[02:32:54] <GEOFBOT>	 There were so many complaints you woulda thought collegeboard banned complaining or something :P
[02:43:27] <four>	 hahahahaa
[02:43:32] <four>	 so i assume you didnt complain as well ? :p
[02:44:48] <GEOFBOT>	 I didn't complain because I wasn't affected at all.  but thanks to the other guys I get a free retake :D
[02:45:15] <GEOFBOT>	 collegeboard is kinda shady.  they're a "non-profit" but they make millions of dollars in profit
[02:46:40] <four>	 whatttttt
[02:46:43] <four>	 how they managed to do it
[02:46:47] <four>	 corruption :p
[02:48:07] <GEOFBOT>	 it's a loophole
[02:48:17] <GEOFBOT>	 if you call yourself a "non-profit" you don't have to pay as much taxes
[02:51:12] <four>	 I seeeeee
[02:54:21] <GEOFBOT>	 how is testing in singapore?
[02:56:24] <four>	 hahaha 
[02:56:45] <four>	 recently there has been a case where students from a university has to retake their statistics paper 
[02:56:59] <four>	 because the examiners forgot to give the students the necessary tables to do 
[02:57:07] <four>	 like the z table, t - distribution etc :p
[02:57:27] <GEOFBOT>	 dang, that sucks :P
[02:57:40] <GEOFBOT>	 wonder what it was like to be in the testing room
[02:58:15] <GEOFBOT>	 "weren't we supposed to get tables?" "shut up and back to work" (exaggeration)
[03:00:54] <four>	 hahahahaha
[03:01:14] <four>	 too much over there =p
[04:51:40] <Merlissimo>	 today my bot edited as anon user although it used a valid edit token. how could this be? beacause of the http->https redirect the script lost its cookies, that i thought editing with a long edittoken cannot be done by non anons and they must use \+. has there anything changed?
[04:53:39] <Merlissimo>	 +\ was the anon edit token in the past
[05:43:01] <vahid_>	 clear
[05:43:32] <vahid_>	 ./msg EggBot hello
[05:51:35] <legoktm>	 Merlissimo: is your bot using assert=user?
[05:52:09] <vahid_>	 i have installed just now
[05:52:19] <Merlissimo>	 legoktm: no, only edittoken != "\+"
[05:52:24] <vahid_>	 i don't config that yet
[05:52:42] <legoktm>	 Merlissimo: idk how good of a check that is...I'd recommend using assert=user.
[05:53:52] <Merlissimo>	 but that worked in the past and no change was announced. "+\" was announced years before assert feature was added
[05:54:48] <legoktm>	 sure. But I'm telling you with 100% certainty that assert=user *will* work :)
[05:55:08] <legoktm>	 I have no idea why checking for +\ would stop working
[05:57:32] <Merlissimo>	 legoktm: my bot also used a private ip https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/10.68.18.16. maybe related
[05:57:44] <legoktm>	 is it editing from labs?
[05:57:54] <legoktm>	 labs is inside the WMF's network so it shows up as a private IP 
[05:58:31] <Merlissimo>	 not in the past. a month ago or so my bot used an public ipv6
[05:58:56] <MaxSem>	 We should really, really do a global anon block on internal IP ranges
[05:59:23] <legoktm>	 MaxSem: last time we did that, it triggered XFF blocking for people whose networks are using proxies :)
[05:59:35] <MaxSem>	 lol
[05:59:51] <MaxSem>	 that sounds like a TrustedXff bug
[06:00:27] <legoktm>	 anomie blocked the entire /8 with 128 individual rangeblocks and then had to go and unblock all of it
[06:00:29] <MaxSem>	 we shouldn't be trusting proxies that report crap in the first place
[06:13:53] <four>	 hey guys, how do i retrieve the article text based on the title?
[06:14:18] <four>	 i am retrieving a list of recently created articles using the newest page extension (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newest_Pages)
[06:14:49] <four>	 i am editing the newestpage.page.php file to try and retrieve the text 
[06:15:02] <four>	 at line 4 and 5 (https://dpaste.de/ma8k)
[06:15:16] <four>	 how can i retrieve to my main page instead of echo-ing out? 
[06:15:18] <four>	 thanks all
[06:33:42] <four>	 any idea why this occur?
[06:33:43] <four>	 Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 (Forbidden)
[06:33:49] <four>	 i am using apache
[06:34:01] <four>	 the pictures is not being displayed and show me this error when i inspect element on chrome
[06:53:13] <vahid_>	 assoc
[08:07:35] <lojjik>	 legoktm
[08:11:11] <four>	 any idea why i got a 403 error on my mediawiki site?
[08:11:15] <four>	 cannot load the image on my main page 
[08:11:19] <four>	 even though the images are uploaded
[08:11:57] <four>	 using apache btw
[08:35:57] <andre__>	 four, your apache server log might tell you.
[08:37:05] <four>	 it is telling me but i googled it and still not fix
[08:37:19] <four>	 this is what it says
[08:37:20] <four>	 Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden: C:/Apache2.2/htdocs/wiki/images/3/35/Your-logo-here.png, referer: http://localhost/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[08:44:02] <four>	 <andre> any chance that u might know how to solve? :/
[08:44:38] <andre__>	 no idea, sorry. I could only point to the Apache documentation :)
[08:45:44] <four>	 is alright :)
[08:45:49] <four>	 could i ask u another qn
[08:46:01] <four>	 do u have any idea how to get the article content?
[08:46:04] <four>	 from the page title?
[08:46:30] <four>	 i mean, i am able to do it , but it is echo-ing out, instead of displaying on the main page
[08:46:38] <four>	 any idea how to display on the main page? :/
[08:53:55] <polybuildr>	 four: I'm not sure where your apache conf file is, but if you know where it is, you probably have to add `Options FollowSymLinks` for the <directory> directive for your web root.
[08:54:10] <four>	 <polybuildr> I did
[08:54:15] <four>	 httpd.conf file right
[08:54:24] <four>	 web root meaning my document root?
[08:54:42] <polybuildr>	 yeah, that file
[08:54:58] <polybuildr>	 yep, wherever http://localhost points to
[08:55:05] <polybuildr>	 after you do that, you'll need to restart apache
[08:56:18] <four>	 i added under this
[08:56:19] <four>	 <Directory "C:/Apache2.2/htdocs">
[08:56:21] <four>	 am i correctly?
[08:56:39] <four>	 if yes, i restarted and still images are not showing on my main page (give me 403 error)
[08:57:32] <polybuildr>	 yeah, that should have worked.
[08:57:37] <polybuildr>	 what does the apache log say now?
[08:59:31] <four>	 error log did not show the previous error
[08:59:37] <four>	 but google chrome is still telling me 403 forbidden
[08:59:56] <polybuildr>	 what happens if you try to load the image directly?
[09:00:04] <polybuildr>	 in the browser, using its url?
[09:02:15] <four>	 i tried to load this url
[09:02:16] <four>	 http://localhost/wiki/images/
[09:02:30] <four>	 but it says forbiddne, you dun have permission to access /wiki/images on this server
[09:03:13] <four>	 i saw there is a .htaccess file in my /wiki/images file
[09:03:17] <four>	 and it says the following code
[09:03:35] <four>	 https://dpaste.de/QSXU
[09:03:44] <four>	 could it be this causing the problem as well?
[09:04:58] <polybuildr>	 four: there's a good chance it's related to the problem, but unfortunately, I'm not too good at understanding those files
[09:05:03] <polybuildr>	 sorry :/ and best of luck :)
[09:05:17] <four>	 <polybuildr> is alright , thanks for your assistance :)
[10:34:50] <Mandevil\splat>	 When I add wfLoadExtension() to LocalSettings, I get "PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function wfLoadExtension() "
[10:34:53] <Mandevil\splat>	 What gives?
[10:42:10] <Mandevil\splat>	 OK, figured it out myself.
[11:04:33] <stangeland>	 Hi, is it possible to somehow play a wav file in mediawiki?
[11:07:23] <kim_bruning>	 should do?
[11:08:05] <stangeland>	 kim_bruning, how?
[11:08:11] <kim_bruning>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WAV_files
[11:08:15] <kim_bruning>	 well, here's proof ...
[11:08:25] <kim_bruning>	 let's have a look at the localsettings
[11:08:32] <kim_bruning>	 errr, version page ...
[11:09:25] <kim_bruning>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
[11:09:31] <kim_bruning>	 looks like TimedMediaHandler
[11:10:08] <kim_bruning>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler
[11:10:15] <kim_bruning>	 not sure if it directly handles wav, or if you need to convert
[11:10:20] <kim_bruning>	 (but that's not the hardest thing ever)
[11:11:34] <kim_bruning>	 ah, yeah, there's a transcode process going on in the background https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%22Call_to_Statesmanship%22_and_%22Presidential_Processional%22.wav
[11:11:37] <kim_bruning>	 hum... 
[11:12:12] <kim_bruning>	 ah, that's provided with the extension
[11:12:38] <kim_bruning>	 be a little careful there... transcode is expensive (in CPU time, memory, and storage) , though it only needs to happen once per file
[12:24:43] <Revi>	 Silly question, there is way to mark flagged bot's edit as non-bot, right? 
[12:25:00] <Revi>	 (Edit through API) :p
[12:27:34] <saper>	 Revi: also the bot may, but does not have to set the bot flag
[12:27:49] <saper>	 there was a trick via the URL afair
[12:28:19] <Revi>	 oookkk
[12:29:15] <saper>	 something with &bot=1 
[14:48:55] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 is mediawiki being tested against php 7?
[14:51:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 RobotsOnDrugs: not on a regular basis. someone has probablie tried it...
[14:52:02] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 CI still runs against 5.3, I think
[14:52:45] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 ...and HHVM 3.6 or something
[14:55:55] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 i'll probably set up a test instance just to see what happens, but of course real tests by people familiar with the codebase is far more efficient :)
[14:58:55] <Reedy>	 RobotsOnDrugs: Please report any bugs you do find, noting that you are trying PHP 7
[14:59:04] <Reedy>	 Even if it's issues to be upstreamed, it'd be worth knowing
[14:59:15] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 RobotsOnDrugs: try to run phpunit tests against php7
[14:59:29] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 php tests/phpunit/phpunit.php
[14:59:37] <Reedy>	 for starters :)
[15:04:30] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 Reedy: of course
[15:04:38] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 DanielK_WMDE_: thanks, i will
[15:42:55] <lojjik>	 I need help fixing permissions on my repo. I get permission denied errors when I set the mode to 644, and git doesn't register a change in the mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103797
[15:53:48] <andre__>	 lojjik, git does register a change in the mode
[15:54:05] <andre__>	 > mode change 100755 => 100644 i18n/en.json
[15:54:27] <andre__>	 lojjik, anyway, here you go: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/220783/
[16:47:56] <Srdjan>	 hi, not sure if this is the place, but any idea what the time frame is for the translations i make on translatewiki to actually take place on wiki software?
[17:03:59] <Glaisher>	 Srdjan: For Wikimedia wikis, it would take about 24 hours.
[17:04:44] <Srdjan>	 glaisher, um, hm.. that's weird, cause some of the things i did were replaced and some just weren't, but on the translate thing they're listed as latest
[17:05:20] <Glaisher>	 which messages specifically?
[17:06:14] <Srdjan>	 The one under More that says "Move"
[17:06:28] <Srdjan>	 on like a normal wikipedia article
[17:08:55] <Srdjan>	 MediaWiki:Vector-action-move is the thing
[17:08:59] <Glaisher>	 Srdjan: which wiki?
[17:09:08] <Srdjan>	 bs.wikipedia.org
[17:11:01] <Glaisher>	 oh indeed
[17:11:19] <Srdjan>	 Any clue why it's not getting changed?
[17:11:54] <Glaisher>	 No, sorry. You could try asking at #mediawiki-i18n
[17:12:04] <Glaisher>	 Nemo_bis: Nikerabbit ^
[17:12:06] <Srdjan>	 Will give it a go
[17:17:13] <Nemo_bis>	 (replying there)
[20:01:08] <dom__>	 On my wiki, I've been noticing that sometimes a page will load all but a jquery module, which causes a white page to be displayed, until you manually stop the page from loading any further, at which point it displays normally. Is there a fix for this?
[20:02:26] <saper>	 dom__: check why your resource loader is failing !debug
[20:02:34] <saper>	 !rldebug | dom__
[20:02:39] <saper>	 !rl
[20:02:40] <wm-bot>	 ResourceLoader is the delivery system for JavaScript/CSS in MediaWiki. First released in MediaWiki 1.17. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers
[20:02:46] <saper>	 !debug
[20:02:46] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[20:06:06] <dom__>	 Thank you!
[20:34:25] <mailfunction>	 hello everybody! I wanted to use the mail feature and configured my localsettings.php. but all I get is this error message: Exception from line 268 of /.../includes/mail/UserMailer.php: PEAR mail package is not installed
[20:35:13] <GEOFBOT>	 mailfunction: is pear installed correctly?  also, nice punny username
[20:35:28] <mailfunction>	 I tried to check my php.ini file but my host said that I won't be able to access this file; they told me that I should try to configure it using the cPanel
[20:35:55] <mailfunction>	 GEOFBOT yup, I installed it and it looks like all went correctly
[20:36:20] <GEOFBOT>	 and you installed the mail package?
[20:36:55] <mailfunction>	 yes; I can post the list of all the packages that are installed if that helps
[20:38:23] <GEOFBOT>	 and your localsettings are set up right?
[20:39:29] <mailfunction>	 Archive_Tar 1.3.16 Auth_SASL 1.0.6 Console_Getopt 1.3.1 HTTP_Request 1.4.4 Mail 1.2.0 Net_SMTP Net_Socket 1.0.14 Net_URL 1.0.15 PEAR 1.9.5 Strucutres_Graph 1.0.4
[20:39:52] <mailfunction>	 $wgEnableEmail = true; $wgEnableUserEmail = true; # UPO
[20:40:21] <mailfunction>	 $wgSMTP = array(  'host'     => "xxx", //could also be an IP address  'IDHost'   => "xxx",  'port'     => 465,  'auth'     => true,  'username' => "xxx",  'password' => "xxx" );
[20:40:43] <mailfunction>	 I double checked the xxx-ed information; it should be right
[20:42:39] <GEOFBOT>	 are you sure you cannot access php.ini through the cpanel file manager?
[20:42:44] <GEOFBOT>	 pear path should be in php include path
[20:43:13] <mailfunction>	 I can see and change the include_path but I can't access the files as the indicated path isn't accessible for me
[20:43:39] <mailfunction>	 it seems to be restricted by my terrible host (webhostingbuzz.com)
[20:44:22] <GEOFBOT>	 but the bee looks so friendly :o
[20:44:49] <mailfunction>	 :D
[20:44:55] <GEOFBOT>	 well, your hosting company's documentation says PEAR is in /usr/bin/pear
[20:44:57] <GEOFBOT>	 did you try that?
[20:46:19] <mailfunction>	 the folder (pear) does not exist :(
[20:46:27] <mailfunction>	 following the /usr/bin path
[20:47:03] <GEOFBOT>	 :/
[20:48:27] <mailfunction>	 lol
[20:48:34] <mailfunction>	 I just received an email from their tech team
[20:48:57] <mailfunction>	 they said that I had restricted access but that they granted me full (or at least sufficient) rights right now
[20:49:12] <mailfunction>	 I tried it and I can now find and edit the php.ini 
[20:49:25] <GEOFBOT>	 ok
[20:49:28] <GEOFBOT>	 have fun :P
[20:49:50] <mailfunction>	 I checked the entry; ; For Unix only.  You may supply arguments as well (default: "sendmail -t -i"). sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i should work, right?
[20:50:03] <GEOFBOT>	 i think so
[20:50:05] <mailfunction>	 (I know that it is a linux server)
[20:50:19] <mailfunction>	 hmm, do you have any ideas concerning the error? 
[20:50:42] <GEOFBOT>	 the pear error?
[20:50:48] <GEOFBOT>	 try looking in /usr/share/pear ?
[20:52:24] <mailfunction>	 you mean the documentation? I'll do that
[20:53:09] <mailfunction>	 thank you!
[20:53:52] <GEOFBOT>	 ?
[20:54:00] <GEOFBOT>	 i was just looking online for common pear installation paths
[20:54:33] <GEOFBOT>	 and that one came up
[21:00:33] <mailfunction>	 hmm; could it be possible that my idhost does not match my url? how could I identify it?
[21:28:09] <mailfunction>	 aaah; I think that I need to specify this line: ;include_path = ".;c:\php\includes"
[21:28:20] <mailfunction>	 can you tell me what I have to change/how I can find the right directories?
[21:35:20] <[Rui]>	 hello, I'm a total mediawiki newbie hoping to get some help activating a skin, please. Even though I've added  require_once "skins/Vector/Vector.php"; it still only show me a skinless mediawiki. what could be wrong?
[21:41:52] <mailfunction>	 you could try to add $wgDefaultSkin = "vector";
[21:46:37] <MatmaRex>	 [Rui]: what is the error message? (is there one?)
[21:47:15] <[Rui]>	 MatmaRex, none in Apache's error log, nor on the web page
[21:47:36] <[Rui]>	 it just says MediaWiki has been successfully installed. 
[21:48:06] <mailfunction>	 May I explain my problem again? I get this error message when I try to send an email to another registered wiki contributor: Error: [ee18979b] /wiki/Spezial:E-Mail_senden Exception from line 268 of /includes/mail/UserMailer.php: PEAR mail package is not installed
[21:48:29] <mailfunction>	 My LocalSettings.php ist correct (I included the SMTP information)
[21:48:36] <mailfunction>	 do I need to change the php.ini? If so: how?
[21:52:04] <[Rui]>	 mailfunction, hi, did you install the PEAR mail package?
[21:52:28] <mailfunction>	 Rui: yes I did; I'll post a screenshot containing the whole error message
[21:52:45] <[Rui]>	 mailfunction, don't get me wrong, I'm a total mediawiki noob :)
[21:53:23] <[Rui]>	 but make a screenshot and post it on some site then paste the url here :)
[21:55:39] <mailfunction>	 http://oi61.tinypic.com/1t9efd.jpg
[21:58:06] <mailfunction>	 I think that I hove to include mail and/or other pear packages but I don't know how :(
[22:05:53] <mailfunction>	 is there maybe a tutorial describing the whole process? 
[22:07:52] <mailfunction>	 I found this thread: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26255667/how-can-i-send-confirmation-emails-from-mediawiki-to-users
[22:08:17] <[Rui]>	 mailfunction, could be permissions?
[22:08:43] <[Rui]>	 maybe some umask made you install the pear mail package without enough permissons for the web server user?
[22:09:03] <mailfunction>	 permissions?
[22:09:35] <mailfunction>	 hmm, I don't know :(
[22:10:12] <mailfunction>	 I found that thread and the TO wrote that he had to change a line in is php.ini to include the right paths. I didn't do that yet but I don't know how to find the matching paths in my installation
[22:11:55] <mailfunction>	 "In order to make changes in system files you need to have root access. As I can see your account is located on Shared server, so we're afraid you don't have an access to make changes to this file using this path: opt/alt/php55/etc/php.ini"
[22:12:23] <[Rui]>	 oh, you're not fortunate then...
[22:12:29] <mailfunction>	 still, is there a way to use the mail feature (send emails to other users)?
[22:24:37] <mailfunction>	 can you guys recommend a good hosting provider for mediawiki? We can't afford anything that costs more than 100€ per year (small research project) and would need enough performance for 30 contributors who work simultaneously
[22:26:25] <greg-g>	 mailfunction: if you can maintain it yourself, that wouldn't be anything really special
[22:26:39] <greg-g>	 ie: most entry level VPS options would work
[22:27:40] <mailfunction>	 right now we have a package from webhostingbuzz, pay about 100€ but can't work with more than 10 ppl at the same time and are running on a shared server environment
[22:27:41] <MatmaRex>	 mailfunction: if you don't need shell access and want somebody to maintain it for you, you can try http://www.shoutwiki.com/ or http://meta.orain.org/ (both mostly free)
[22:29:23] <mailfunction>	 MatmaRex mostly free? that looks suspicious to me; why would they offer you to host it for nothing? is it ad-based or very limited (webspace, traffic, cpu, memory)?
[22:30:30] <MatmaRex>	 mailfunction: shoutwiki is ad-based, or you can take a paid plan without ads (no idea about the cost)
[22:30:48] <MatmaRex>	 mailfunction: orain seems to be supported entirely by donations and just doing this for the good of humankind, or some such
[22:31:03] <greg-g>	 yeah, good people
[22:31:24] <greg-g>	 well known people in the community
[22:31:29] <mailfunction>	 would it be possible to migrate our db?
[22:31:52] <MatmaRex>	 (yeah, both shoutwiki and orain are run by mediawiki developers)
[22:32:01] <mailfunction>	 we would also need webspace and ftp access
[22:32:16] <MatmaRex>	 probably, but i don't really know either of them :) so you'd have to ask
[22:32:42] <MatmaRex>	 (or find our on the sites, i guess)
[22:33:07] <mailfunction>	 thank you, I'll look around! :)
[22:33:12] <MatmaRex>	 or, like greg says, just get a VPS and maintain it yourself
[22:33:54] <[Rui]>	 well, I'd be extremely happy if it at least did anything.
[22:34:26] <[Rui]>	 zapping the LocalSettings created with the install.php script I go to the mw-config and all it does is complain that LocalSettings is not present
[22:35:06] <[Rui]>	 then it tells me to set up the wiki but all it does is re-generate the same page over and over again with no errors whatsoever anywhere
[22:35:44] <[Rui]>	 192.168.x.y - - [25/Jun/2015:23:35:15 +0100] "GET /wiki/mw-config/index.php HTTP/1.1" 200 634
[22:36:50] <[Rui]>	 worse... it adds up on the url :)  https://cloud/wiki/mw-config/mw-config/mw-config/mw-config/mw-config/mw-config/index.php
[22:37:15] <GEOFBOT>	 [Rui]: umm
[22:37:31] <GEOFBOT>	 you said your problem was no skin?
[22:37:33] <GEOFBOT>	 or has it got worse
[22:38:26] <[Rui]>	 no skin, but then I decided to start all over again. it's quick to zap the db and start over.
[22:38:50] <[Rui]>	 this time, stop trying to be "automated" and do it manually, I thought, trying to be smart hasn't payed, I thought... :)
[22:38:56] <GEOFBOT>	 ok, start again, and tell me the problems that you encounter
[22:39:19] <[Rui]>	 so I unpacked the latest stable at /opt/mediawiki
[22:40:52] <[Rui]>	 then on /var/www/html/wki I symlinked everything but the images and mw-config directories, chgrp apache, chmod g+w on both of them
[22:41:09] <[Rui]>	 ...html/wiki/ (I mean)
[22:42:48] <[Rui]>	 in Apache I aliased /wiki/skins to the shared directory, /wiki/images to the images directory and /wiki to index.php
[22:56:39] <GEOFBOT>	 [Rui]: so if you go to /var/www/html/wiki and type `ls skins` you will see a Vector folder?
[22:56:52] <GEOFBOT>	 and are you sure the permissions on skins folder are correct?
[22:56:56] <[Rui]>	 GEOFBOT, along with a few others
[22:56:59] <[Rui]>	 yup
[22:57:11] <[Rui]>	 like I said, I only get 200 ok in the logs
[22:57:25] <[Rui]>	 no errors
[22:57:29] <GEOFBOT>	 When you go to Special:Version which skin is listed?
[22:57:54] <[Rui]>	 Vector
[22:59:01] <[Rui]>	 I've just reposed my LocalSettings.php file
[22:59:11] <[Rui]>	 I don't understand why it's being so hard :(
[22:59:27] <GEOFBOT>	 is an enigma ! :o
[23:01:26] <[Rui]>	 GEOFBOT, :)
[23:01:28] <GEOFBOT>	 [Rui]: so when you go to Special:Version the skin is listed with proper version and everything?
[23:01:49] <GEOFBOT>	 have you tried a different browser?
[23:02:04] <[Rui]>	 yup. I even thought it could be a problem with the version it came on, and fetched the git version
[23:02:38] <[Rui]>	 GEOFBOT, if it doesn't work on FireFox, I'd have to shoot myself for choosing it! :)
[23:03:43] <GEOFBOT>	 but maybe your browser has some extension or css setting you accidentally changed?
[23:04:21] <[Rui]>	 I can launch a new profile
[23:04:40] <HeXiLeD>	 i am looking for a way of allowing login+edit to the wiki for one specific ip only. Can anyone point me to some info in regards to be able to do this 
[23:05:31] <[Rui]>	 exactly the same
[23:05:38] <GEOFBOT>	 HeXiLeD: make an account, make account admin, block all ips and non-admin acounts from editing or creating accounts
[23:05:54] <GEOFBOT>	 [Rui]: could you pastebin your localsettings?
[23:06:21] <[Rui]>	 sure, just give me a minute to sanitize it :)
[23:06:25] <[Rui]>	 passwords and such...
[23:07:02] <GEOFBOT>	 !link Manual:Preventing access | HeXiLeD 
[23:07:02] <wm-bot>	 HeXiLeD: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access_
[23:08:05] <HeXiLeD>	 well i think i got all of that, but i would allow login for the admin account from specific ip only
[23:08:36] <GEOFBOT>	 HeXiLeD: you can leave the login because there will only be one account which you know the password
[23:08:40] <GEOFBOT>	 no one else can make more accounts
[23:09:07] <HeXiLeD>	 that means very little
[23:09:21] <HeXiLeD>	 accounts can still be cracked like that 
[23:09:34] <HeXiLeD>	 i need to allow localhost to login only
[23:09:42] <HeXiLeD>	 127.0.0.1 <- 
[23:09:47] <[Rui]>	 GEOFBOT, http://pastebin.com/GTDTeyyA
[23:10:05] <GEOFBOT>	 do you want other people to be able to read?
[23:14:30] <GEOFBOT>	 [Rui]: try going to http://cloud/wiki/skins/Vector/Vector.php
[23:14:32] <[Rui]>	 GEOFBOT, if for any reason you get any idea from the LocalSettings.php paste, please priv me a message. it's past midnight here and I need to wake up very early, this wasn't supposed to last so many hours :) at least I didn't expect it to last so long, judging by all the install howtos I skimmed :)
[23:15:03] <[Rui]>	 This version of the Vector skin requires MediaWiki 1.25+
[23:15:11] <GEOFBOT>	 so its accessible
[23:15:37] <[Rui]>	 but I got mediawiki-1.25.1.tar.gz
[23:15:57] <[Rui]>	 is it complaining or merely stating a fact? 
[23:16:14] <[Rui]>	 I can always reposition the standard Vector and check
[23:16:15] <GEOFBOT>	 stating a fact
[23:16:22] <GEOFBOT>	 does the same thing on en.wikipedia and was jsut testing
[23:16:51] <[Rui]>	 yeah, same message with the skin from the tar ball.
[23:17:03] * [Rui] sighs... I'll try again when I return from work...
[23:17:08] <GEOFBOT>	 [Rui]: try setting $wgStyleDirectory
[23:17:27] <GEOFBOT>	 !wg
[23:17:27] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wg
[23:17:37] <GEOFBOT>	 !wg StyleDirectory| [Rui] 
[23:17:37] <wm-bot>	 [Rui]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgStyleDirectory
[23:18:32] <GEOFBOT>	 not sure if it will help, but can't find anythign else :/
[23:19:01] <[Rui]>	 no change
[23:19:15] <[Rui]>	 well, maybe tomorrow with a fresher head something will come up :) thanks anyways!
[23:24:37] <GEOFBOT>	 HeXiLeD: do you want other people to be able to view?
[23:24:53] <HeXiLeD>	 yes. logins only by specific ip