[00:50:13] <thirdtimesneeze>	 A couple of relatively quick questions. The first: The main namespace on my wiki says "Page" next to the "Discussion" tab. How do I change it from page to another string? https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/PadPedia
[00:51:48] <Katie>	 Hi thirdtimesneeze.
[00:52:15] <thirdtimesneeze>	 hey Katie!
[00:52:23] <Katie>	 thirdtimesneeze: If you append "?uselang=qqx", you can see the MediaWiki message names.
[00:52:26] <Katie>	 https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/PadPedia?uselang=qqx
[00:52:29] <Katie>	 So you'd edit the page...
[00:52:56] <Katie>	 https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage-nstab I guess.
[00:53:08] <Katie>	 If you want to change only the main page's tab.
[00:53:14] <Katie>	 If you want to change the tab for all pages, it'd be...
[00:54:10] <Katie>	 https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Nstab-main
[00:54:44] <thirdtimesneeze>	 thank you so much, i'll remember to always look at Mediawiki: first
[00:55:14] <Katie>	 All the messages are overridable from pages in the MediaWiki namespace.
[00:55:34] <Katie>	 That's the preferred way of overriding messages, as it puts them in the database as wiki pages and makes upgrades simpler.
[00:57:28] <thirdtimesneeze>	 I have a second question with regards to http://www.mediawikiwidgets.org/DISQUS and getting the code updated there. I left a comment the other day in the comments section there but have not received a response back yet.  Basically, the widget code there is outdated and needs the new universal code found on the DISQUS site which adds support for SSL also.  I have HTTPS:// site and even with the new universal code I have had
[00:57:48] <thirdtimesneeze>	 reason:https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/Widget:DISQUS
[00:58:36] <thirdtimesneeze>	 if possible, if i get it working i would like Yaron, i believe, to update the widget code on the main site
[00:58:52] <Katie>	 You can probably pester him via e-mail.
[00:58:53] <Katie>	 He's still around.
[01:00:14] <thirdtimesneeze>	 Katie, out of curiosity do work for Mediawiki? I'm always amazed by how many helpful people volunteer their time to help less capable folks like me. I really appreciate your help!
[01:00:57] <Katie>	 MediaWiki is the software package. The Wikimedia Foundation is who I might work for. And no. :-)
[01:01:11] <Katie>	 Instead, I run Wikimedia, the umbrella organization that includes Wikipedia. ;-)
[01:01:35] <Katie>	 (The naming is terrible.)
[01:03:43] <four>	 is there anyway
[01:03:51] <four>	 to remove links ?
[01:04:11] <four>	 i mean , right now i have a list of links (top 3 page titles) on my main page
[01:04:27] <four>	 so if any of those are edited, it should be removed and become 1. title1 , 2. title2 
[01:04:31] <four>	 am i even making sense?
[01:04:34] <Katie>	 Not at all.
[01:04:53] <four>	 hmmm
[01:04:54] <four>	 hahahaha
[01:04:54] <thirdtimesneeze>	 haha Katie you are so funny
[01:04:57] <four>	 i guess so myself
[01:05:07] <four>	 ok, let me explain clearer............
[01:05:28] <thirdtimesneeze>	 I sent Yaron an Email katie so hopefully that will be corrected soon
[01:06:51] <four>	 ok . so this is one of the function that i was tasked to do
[01:06:54] <four>	 replace with “make a request” whereby user can request for a non-existing article. and the request will appear somewhere on the homepage for ppl to contribute their input
[01:07:30] <four>	 and this is what is appearing on my main page (http://postimg.org/image/ov3jwo1td/)
[01:07:56] <four>	 i did this by using custom namespaces (Requests:) where users can only create and edit that namespace and nothing else
[01:08:14] <four>	 so now, my boss want something like
[01:08:34] <four>	 manual removal of links when the article are being updated (since it is already requested) it should not be there something like that
[01:08:38] <four>	 am i making sense...............
[01:10:52] <thirdtimesneeze>	 I have a symlink error, which I have no clue how to correct at https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/File:SVG_logo.svg  because I a simpleton.  It's an SVG file, the original file at https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/w/images/0/02/SVG_logo.svg is correct but the thumbnail gives an error.  I am using Windows Server 2012 R2.... i'm almost certain it has to do with windows server
[01:19:27] <thirdtimesneeze>	 four, you are one confusing dude I will say that much
[01:23:48] <four>	 hahahahaa
[01:23:50] <four>	 life's tough
[01:24:01] <four>	 :(
[01:36:14] <Katie>	 thirdtimesneeze: So your best bet is look at line 207 of SVG.php.
[01:36:19] <Katie>	 You can also enable debugging mode, which might help.
[01:36:33] <Katie>	 But you should be able to track down what kind of symlink it's trying to make.
[01:36:39] <Katie>	 (Does Windows have symlinks?)
[01:36:47] <Katie>	 It's probably a silly permissions issue.
[01:52:38] <ResMar_>	 Hello all! Anyone know of a place that's put together all the ways of throwing data requests at the Wikimedias?
[01:52:56] <Katie>	 Ah, you're back.
[01:53:02] <ResMar_>	 The three I know of are the API, the Restbase API, and Quarry.
[01:53:22] <ResMar_>	 I'm wondering if there are more that I should know of. I've heard Mangus wrote a bunch of 'em for instance.
[01:53:22] <thirdtimesneeze>	 Katie, thanks! I am sure its a permission issue too, I'll have to do some work
[01:54:02] <ResMar_>	 Katie: Yes, and in a better mood.
[01:54:49] <Katie>	 There a lot of interfaces to Wikimedia/MediaWiki.
[01:54:59] <Katie>	 There are the replicated MariaDB databases.
[01:55:05] <Katie>	 There are XML and SQL dumps.
[01:55:16] <Katie>	 There's the standard site, with its HTML.
[01:55:16] <guillom>	 There's the stats machines, for staffers and people with NDAs.
[01:55:29] <Katie>	 Magnus has wdq.
[01:55:31] <Katie>	 For Wikidata querying.
[01:55:31] <ResMar_>	 NDAs?
[01:55:36] <ResMar_>	 Non-disclosure agreements?
[01:55:38] <guillom>	 yes
[01:55:40] <ResMar_>	 *whistles*
[01:55:54] <ResMar_>	 By the way, I wrote a Tech/News importer for the Signpost today.
[01:55:56] <guillom>	 Because those have private user info.
[01:56:21] <ResMar_>	 It deals with all those <translate> and <tvar|> tags that we were too lazy to deal with on our own.
[01:56:24] <guillom>	 ResMar_: And I'm still trying to convince the Community Engagement team to take over Tech/News.
[01:56:41] <guillom>	 ResMar_: You do know you can take the /en subpage and you have none of those, right?
[01:56:48] <ResMar_>	 So when Legoktm isn't cooking something up, that's what we'll cover that.
[01:56:50] <ResMar_>	 Oh, rats.
[01:56:52] <ResMar_>	 No, I didn't,.
[01:57:04] <ResMar_>	 ...
[01:57:05] <guillom>	 :)
[01:57:48] <ResMar_>	 Can I even access that wikicode though?
[01:57:53] <guillom>	 For more info: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Portal/Localization#Copying_documents_to_other_wikis
[01:57:55] <guillom>	 ResMar_: ^
[01:58:11] <guillom>	 I wrote that for another doc (the VE guide) but it works the same for any translatable page.
[01:58:28] <ResMar_>	 I don't see an Edit source tab for the /en subpage
[01:59:11] <guillom>	 And I'm not sure if you know, but the English version is posted at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Latest_tech_news , so you could use those as well.
[01:59:33] <ResMar_>	 Ah, but I need the wikitext itself.
[01:59:48] <ResMar_>	 (!)
[02:00:04] <ResMar_>	 Let me guess, the templates get expanded when you request the page?
[02:00:18] <guillom>	 ResMar_: You could copy the wikitext from that template. Or you could open https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2015/27/en&action=edit (the /en subpage on meta)
[02:00:54] <ResMar_>	 The more you know...
[02:01:09] <guillom>	 ResMar_: Sorry, I meant: you could copy the wikitext from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tech_news (which is where the template pulls from). Or the /en subpage from meta.
[02:01:31] <ResMar_>	 Did community bite on handling writing and distribution?
[02:02:06] <ResMar_>	 It's far more important than those storytelling blog posts, IMHO.
[02:02:15] <guillom>	 Yes. They just keep postponing it because they're 'too busy'. I'm hoping they'll take over after Wikimania.
[02:02:31] <ResMar_>	 How about the newsletter extension?
[02:02:38] <ResMar_>	 I checked in on it and saw a lot of bugs crossed out.
[02:02:51] <ResMar_>	 Almost there?
[02:02:52] <guillom>	 Yes, there's a GSoC student working on that too.
[02:03:12] <guillom>	 Not sure where they're at. I think they just finished the "minimum viable product". Not sure exactly what that is.
[02:04:05] <ResMar_>	 Well it's good that it looks like it's happening.
[02:04:48] <ResMar_>	 I've been thinking about an IWBot.
[02:05:25] <ResMar_>	 The Graph extension is going to result in fifty different versions of the same graphs in a year's time, one for each of the wikis, maintained seperately.
[02:05:44] <ResMar_>	 Until interwiki transclusion finally happens it ought to be possible to write a bot that updates all of the copies off of a master location on meta.
[02:05:54] <ResMar_>	 master copy*
[02:06:14] <ResMar_>	 But that's neither here nor there.
[02:06:44] <ResMar_>	 Does Quarry have a dictionary? I haven't tried it out yet.
[02:07:08] <guillom>	 ResMar_: A dictionary?
[02:07:52] <ResMar_>	 This looks like the best place to learn the system: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Wikiresearch_webinars
[02:08:12] <guillom>	 ResMar_: It's an SQL interface.
[02:08:20] <guillom>	 So, you need to know a little bit of SQL.
[02:08:31] <guillom>	 You can look at the existing queries to fiddle your own.
[02:08:36] <ResMar_>	 Right, but you're storing your database items using certain terms.
[02:08:42] <guillom>	 with your own*
[02:08:49] <ResMar_>	 Like 'Wikipedians' might be a data field, or 'Categories'
[02:09:07] <guillom>	 ResMar_: See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout
[02:09:28] <guillom>	 That tells you what is stored where.
[02:09:50] <ResMar_>	 Yeah, I haven't ever done SQL before, but it's not difficult and it's something I ought to learn to be able to start to use already.
[02:10:29] <ResMar_>	 Incidentally, here's one of my personal favorite Wikimedia backend diagrams: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/MediaWiki_fallback_chains.svg
[02:10:48] <thirdtimesneeze>	 I have a question about a very simple widget that I created that I don't understand why it's not showing properly on the page:https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/Widget:Amazon  It gives an error icon instead of loading the actual img on the Widget:Amazon page and it actually does show up at all on this page:https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/List_of_Xinput_Devices
[02:11:01] <ResMar_>	 It's got a geometric beauty to it :)
[02:11:38] <guillom>	 It's nice.
[02:13:31] <thirdtimesneeze>	 It's just suppose to display an <img>
[02:17:05] <four>	 hey guys i need help in sql right now
[02:17:10] <four>	 too*
[02:17:13] <four>	 i have this (https://dpaste.de/j9k7
[02:17:18] <guillom>	 thirdtimesneeze: Look at your browser's console. You've got "Failed to load resource" errors for stuff like https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/Http:/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com/widgets/q . Something must be misconfigured somewhere and you're loading external URLs (from Amazon) from your local wiki.
[02:17:35] <four>	 could anyone tell me what is wrong with my attempt code of (inner join)
[02:17:41] <four>	 it is not displaying the results i want
[02:18:56] <ResMar_>	 Meep. Aren't SQL queries supposed to be simple.
[02:19:33] <guillom>	 SQL queries can be as complex as you want them to be.
[02:19:43] <ResMar_>	 The R brand of simple, then.
[02:20:27] <Katie>	 thirdtimesneeze_: Have you looked at the HTML page source?
[02:20:44] <Katie>	 Also, I think you dropped a "not"?
[02:22:34] <Katie>	 <!--{$image|escape:'url'}-->
[02:22:40] <Katie>	 I'm not sure you can use escape:'url' like that.
[02:29:04] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 i don't know what you mean by "not", but i know that the link is coming back http%3A%2F%2Fws-na.amazon-adsystem.com%2Fwidgets%2Fq%3F_encoding%3DUTF8%26ASIN%3DB003ZSP0WW%26Format%3D_SL250_%26ID%3DAsinImage%26MarketPlace%3DUS%26ServiceVersion%3D20070822%26WS%3D1%26tag%3Dgaunllpa-20 which means the // isn't being captured right.  what should i use instead of url
[02:35:55] <ResMar_>	 legoktm: BTW if you're still on we can discuss the tech news thing if you'd like
[02:49:59] <Katie>	 thirdtimesneeze_: Maybe 'html' instead of 'url'?
[02:53:01] <Katie>	 Or maybe http://doc.thelia.net/en/documentation/templates/urls-and-paths.html ?
[03:41:03] <WarAndGeese>	 Hi
[03:41:20] <WarAndGeese>	 I'm trying to do this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache
[03:41:29] <WarAndGeese>	 but when I make the changes I start getting 404 errors
[03:41:43] <WarAndGeese>	 I don't think I have the right thing in the .htaccess file
[03:45:17] <Byan>	 whats in your .htaccess file..
[03:46:46] <WarAndGeese>	 RewriteEngine On
[03:46:46] <WarAndGeese>	 RewriteRule ^/?wiki(/.*)?$ %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/w/index.php [L]
[03:46:47] <WarAndGeese>	 RewriteRule ^/*$ %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/w/index.php [L]
[03:47:10] <Byan>	 is your wiki installed on docroot/w ?
[03:47:15] <WarAndGeese>	 As you can probably tell, I copied and pasted what was in the wiki
[03:47:40] <WarAndGeese>	 No, I don't think so
[03:47:47] <Byan>	 then why did you use w :P
[03:47:47] <WarAndGeese>	 the main domain is the wiki
[03:47:52] <WarAndGeese>	 Ok, so I can change that
[03:48:13] <Byan>	 I would change that
[03:48:18] <Byan>	 move it to a subdirectory
[03:48:54] <WarAndGeese>	 Also, the .htaccess file goes in the directory for the website, right, not the highest level domain? Maybe it depends on how the host provider structures having multiple websites
[03:49:11] <Byan>	 I actually have no idea
[03:49:14] <WarAndGeese>	 Like, I have public_html as a folder, and in that are individual folders for each website
[03:49:21] <WarAndGeese>	 Ok, I'll try making the change you suggested first
[03:49:39] <Byan>	 I've never done this before which is why I was curious
[03:49:47] <Byan>	 I will need to make this happen on my wiki as well
[03:49:59] <Katie>	 You shouldn't pollute the document root.
[03:50:16] <Katie>	 It's preferable to have example.com/w/index.php over example.com/index.php
[03:50:27] <Byan>	 (and doesn't need to be w)
[03:50:35] <Katie>	 Sure.
[03:52:04] <WarAndGeese>	 Cool, it looks like it's mostly working, I think the css isn't being loaded, but at least it's not a 404 error
[03:53:21] <WarAndGeese>	 Katie: is it bad to have it in the main directory? The site is solely a wiki. If it is in /w/, then after making the change, will it show up as website.com/w/wiki/..., or just as website.com/wiki/... ?
[03:53:38] <WarAndGeese>	 If it's the latter then I guess I should do it as you suggest
[03:54:38] <Byan>	 WarAndGeese: the rewrite rules take care of that
[03:54:50] <Byan>	 so it'll show up as the latter
[03:55:41] <WarAndGeese>	 I guess that makes sense, cool
[03:56:45] <four>	 guys, is it possible to use css3 in mediawiki?
[03:56:50] <four>	 i am trying to edit the main page
[03:56:53] <four>	 as such  style="background: rgb(245, 255, 250); border: 5px solid #CEF2E0; border-radius: 25px; 
[03:57:03] <four>	 want to give it a rounded edge (by using border radius) 
[03:57:37] <WarAndGeese>	 Any idea why the formatting isn't showing up now? Maybe the redirect rule is somehow affecting the locations of the css files? Probably not but I don't know
[03:58:50] <WarAndGeese>	 nvm, looks like it's good now
[03:59:04] <WarAndGeese>	 I forgot to change the "/w" somewhere else
[03:59:12] <WarAndGeese>	 Thank you both
[04:43:16] <Katie>	 four: Most CSS should work.
[04:43:38] <four>	 i tried on mediawiki sandbox
[04:43:45] <four>	 it is working now thanks :)
[04:44:16] <four>	 can i ask u , are you experienced in LDAP ?
[04:45:10] <Katie>	 A bit.
[04:47:46] <four>	 a silly/general question
[04:47:55] <four>	 any idea how does the ldap auto auth works?
[04:47:59] <four>	 i mean..
[04:48:15] <four>	 i am trying to do a auto login to my mediawiki site using windows credentials.
[04:48:35] <four>	 currently, i have configured such that they are able to login using their windows credentials to the mediawiki site
[04:48:52] <four>	 nexxt, i would like it to be auto login (once they go localhost/wiki , they will be prompted to the main page instead of login page)
[04:49:16] <four>	 i would like to ask if the ldap auto auth does such thing, because i am unable to make it work as such :/
[04:52:40] <Katie>	 It used to be possible with NTLM.
[04:52:54] <Katie>	 But that's kind of deprecated, as I understand it.
[04:53:05] <Katie>	 Just increase the cookie timeout on your wiki.
[04:53:14] <four>	 HMM
[04:53:18] <four>	 oops , sorry for the caps
[04:53:26] <Katie>	 Making people log in isn't the worst thing.
[04:53:50] <four>	 you mean ldap is also able to login automatically without prompting the login pagE?
[04:54:03] <four>	 because i successfully did it with the auth_remoteuser extension ( i am using apache2.2 btw)
[04:54:28] <four>	 but because when deployed to the live server, one of the apache module required to do the windows auth could not be copied into the folder (share hosting)
[04:54:41] <four>	 thats why i am thinking of using ldap :/ but not sure if it could achieve the same result
[04:54:53] <four>	 sorry for the spam , just very tired of getting stuck for daysssss
[04:56:37] <four>	 my company insist of making auto login (convenience sake ) thats why........ life's tough 
[08:43:35] <domna>	 Hello, I'm currently developing a special page for our internal workgroup mediawiki to create a few pages with one click. Since I do not have any experience in developing mediawiki extensions I do have some problems to find an api tutorial on how to create wiki pages in the source code of a special page. Does anybody here have a hint on how and where to begin (api links etc. would be useful)?
[08:47:20] <saper>	 domna: we usually use API from outside of mediawiki, i.e. from bots or javascript tools
[08:47:31] <mobrovac>	 domna: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages might help you get started
[08:47:39] <saper>	 domna: just wondering if writing a javascript module could have been easier for you?
[08:52:02] <saper>	 domna: especially if you want it to be "one click" and not ... "go to the special page, fill in the form..."
[09:07:13] <saper>	 domna: here's the gadget we are using to add some entries to the page https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-wikibugs.js
[09:39:01] <text_table_>	 hello everybody; I'd like to reduce the size of the "text" table in my wiki's db (currently about 300MB) but I don't have SSH to run scripts. Is there any other way I could try?
[09:42:42] <Guest81492>	 hey awesome ppl, i am retrieving article text 
[09:42:45] <text_table_>	 ?
[09:43:01] <Guest81492>	 it is working somehow but not exactly (http://i62.tinypic.com/99mlvd.png) it is showing the === instead of the header
[09:43:05] <Guest81492>	 why is it so?
[09:43:55] <Guest81492>	 this is the code i used to retrieve the text (https://dpaste.de/8tVR)
[09:59:31] <saper>	 Guest81492: no idea what are you doing, is your problem that your wikitext is not parsed?
[09:59:58] <Guest81492>	 <saper> i guess so
[10:00:26] <Guest81492>	 when i retrieve the content , it is showing me === (example) ==== instead of the h2 example
[10:00:40] <Guest81492>	 is there anyway to make it display the header instead of displaying ===
[10:00:53] <saper>	 give it to parser?
[10:01:03] <Guest81492>	 i tried to return
[10:01:06] <saper>	 I don't know in what context is your code running
[10:01:15] <saper>	 is it an extension? which hook?
[10:01:20] <Guest81492>	 oh
[10:01:29] <Guest81492>	 i am modifying the newest page extension
[10:01:36] <Guest81492>	 u want my full code? i can paste it..
[10:02:14] <saper>	 this one ? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newest_Pages
[10:02:14] <Guest81492>	 this is the full code with no parser
[10:02:16] <Guest81492>	 https://dpaste.de/2dST
[10:02:28] <Guest81492>	 yup, thats the one, i am editing the newestpage.page
[10:02:40] <saper>	 can you post your git changes somewhere?
[10:02:42] <Guest81492>	 i am trying to do a parser but it seems like it is not reading into my method :/
[10:02:54] <Guest81492>	 i dun have a github account (if thats what you are saying)
[10:03:05] <Guest81492>	 :/
[10:03:31] <Guest81492>	 u wanna compare the changes that i made?
[10:04:42] <Guest81492>	 if u need, this is the link that can see which changes i made to the original file (http://www.diffnow.com/)
[10:05:13] <saper>	 I got it
[10:05:21] <saper>	 specialpage is producing HTML, not wikitext
[10:05:32] <saper>	 that's why
[10:05:34] <Guest81492>	 damn..............
[10:05:47] <Guest81492>	 so i have to use parser? 
[10:05:52] <Guest81492>	 or parser also wont work in this case?
[10:06:24] <saper>	 Guest81492: check this out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages#OutputPage-.3EaddWikiText.28.29
[10:06:46] <Guest81492>	 oh, thats the source that will aid me?
[10:07:02] <saper>	 you are doing $wgOut->addHTML( $this->showArticleText($row) );
[10:07:13] <saper>	 which means "Add HTML to the page"
[10:07:17] <saper>	 read the manual above
[10:07:21] <Guest81492>	 so i just change that line of code?
[10:07:24] <Guest81492>	 damn
[10:07:59] <saper>	 just try addWikiText instead
[10:08:12] <atzorvas>	 I have an apache-mediawiki docker and nginx in host os. anyone with the same setup?
[10:08:22] <Guest81492>	 let me try ..
[10:08:38] <saper>	 atzorvas: congratulations. I don't.
[10:10:06] <atzorvas>	 saper: The reason I'm asking is because I want to configure domain.com/wiki to act as reverse-proxy properly with localhost:port/wiki. not trying to win fame :)
[10:10:42] <saper>	 atzorvas: I only configure nginx to connect to php-fpm, not as a reverse proxy
[10:10:47] <saper>	 configured
[10:10:59] <Guest81492>	 oh no , it justs show me worse thing
[10:11:13] <Guest81492>	 instead of article title being displayed, this is the one being displayed
[10:11:14] <Guest81492>	 These are the articles being created recently UNIQ8c95173442d22b08-item-0--QINU
[10:12:03] <Guest81492>	 http://i59.tinypic.com/117e2o2.png
[10:12:48] <saper>	 Guest81492: sorry to disappoint you
[10:13:00] <saper>	 Guest81492: besides, your "HTML cutting" will break in many interesting ways
[10:13:09] <Guest81492>	 damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[10:13:38] <Guest81492>	 man, is there any other method that will retrieve the article text? 
[10:14:44] <saper>	 Guest81492: what is your raw $articleText ?
[10:14:51] <saper>	 taken from  $article->getContent()
[10:15:10] <saper>	 I think you are breaking things with out "html_cutArticle"
[10:15:23] <saper>	 you can do that but after addWikiText, when you just got plain HTML
[10:15:42] <Guest81492>	 so u mean i should remove the function html_cutArticle ?? 
[10:17:35] <saper>	 for now at least for test
[10:17:45] <saper>	 also what is your $articleText (pure)
[10:18:02] <saper>	 you are stripping tags and doing some strange things in this cutArticle
[10:18:26] <Guest81492>	 i remove the htmlcutArticle
[10:18:31] <Guest81492>	 now it is liek that
[10:18:31] <Guest81492>	 https://dpaste.de/cMM1
[10:18:51] <soeb>	 How would I go about checking if what's currently being viewed is a page, but not on history/move/edit, etc.?
[10:19:52] <Guest81492>	 what u mean by my (pure) $articleText
[10:20:10] <Guest81492>	 removed, and still not displaying well , giving the weird characters :/
[10:20:15] <saper>	 just pure content
[10:20:18] <saper>	 wht are you getting
[10:22:03] <Guest81492>	 tried to echo, but gives me an error  Cannot modify header information
[10:22:12] <Guest81492>	 i used return (addWikiText) gives me the weird character
[10:22:17] <Guest81492>	 addHTML gives me the content of my page
[10:23:21] <Guest81492>	 but is the form of === ... === :/
[10:23:22] <saper>	 log it to a file, maybe?
[10:23:47] <Guest81492>	 how do i do that omg?
[10:23:58] <Guest81492>	 i have this //print out error $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; on my localsetting lol sorry i am really a newbie zzz
[10:25:07] <saper>	 Guest81492: you might try using https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Article.php#Methods
[10:25:27] <saper>	 getParserOutput() instead of getContent() and then use addHTMLText
[10:56:00] <text_table_>	 could anyone help me with the php compressOld.php script?
[11:00:48] <text_table_>	 I established an ssh connection and tried to execute the command but all I get is this error message: Could not open input file: compressOld.php
[11:07:22] <text_table_>	 It seems like my wiki installation is lacking the compressOld.php — do you know why and how I could change it? maybe just copy/pasting it?
[11:07:40] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: you can do a ls to list if the file is there
[11:08:03] <Vulpix>	 note that it should be in the maintenance folder
[11:08:44] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: it is not there :( clear_stats.php                  populateImageSha1.php commandLine.inc                  populateLogSearch.inc compareParserCache.php           populateLogSearch.php compareParsers.php               populateLogUsertext.php convertLinks.inc      
[11:09:33] <p858snake>	 there should be a lot more than just that in your maintenance folder
[11:09:45] <Vulpix>	 what MediaWiki version are you using=
[11:09:47] <Vulpix>	 *?
[11:09:54] <text_table_>	 I know but I didn't copy all the entries
[11:10:06] <Betacommand>	 !blank
[11:10:06] <wm-bot>	 A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug>.
[11:10:17] <text_table_>	 but I looked under c and there is no compressold.php script
[11:11:13] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: actually, that particular script is under /maintenance/storage, not in /maintenance... gj mediawiki...
[11:11:21] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: 1.24.1
[11:11:23] <text_table_>	 aaaah
[11:11:44] <Vulpix>	 that's totally unexpected for me
[11:11:48] <text_table_>	 thank you very much!
[11:12:04] <text_table_>	 all the tutorial I could find placed it in the main maintenance folder
[11:12:38] <thegamer93>	 I have FlaggedRevs installed and I am looking for a solution to make pages with diffrent groups look diffrent
[11:12:50] <thegamer93>	 so the users see that it is in group 1, 2 or 3
[11:12:56] <thegamer93>	 is this possible?
[11:19:45] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: may I bother you again?
[11:20:21] <text_table_>	 I run the script following https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CompressOld.php but the text table's size remains unchanged — did I miss something?
[11:23:35] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: how do you look at the size of the table?
[11:23:54] <text_table_>	 phpmyadmin
[11:25:59] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: phpmyadmin
[11:28:10] <Vulpix>	 space deleted from the database doesn't get freed and available to the disk. I wonder if phpmyadmin calculates the actual space used of the data or also the unreclaimed space
[11:29:52] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: is there another way to check the actual size? my problem: I want to change my hosting provider but the new one has restrictions when it comes to the db size
[11:30:59] <thegamer93>	 Can I combine this with FlaggedRevs?
[11:31:01] <thegamer93>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Page_status_indicators
[11:31:25] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: you can take a backup of the database (with mysqldump) and restore it on another database (maybe a mysql database on your local computer). It will contain only the actual data, so you can see the actual size
[11:32:33] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: thanks a lot!
[11:33:25] <Vulpix>	 yw :)
[11:45:43] <KillerWalrus>	 If a wiki uses ResourceLoader, is it better to use its /load.php syntax to import subpages into Common.css, or is it better to use the old ?action7raw&ctype... syntax for that, since RL minifies the complete CSS in the end?
[11:54:49] <thegamer93>	 My question summed up https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Make_FlaggedRevs_Groups_visible_to_users
[11:55:54] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: another question: I tried to dump the db but I get an error (no permission) when I type mysqldump -u [username] -p[password] -h localhost --verbose --all-databases > dump.sql
[11:56:54] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: maybe the --all-databases is the problem, and you're only allowed to query your own database
[11:59:07] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: I tried it with one specific db but I get the same error :(
[12:00:43] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: what's the exact error message?
[12:01:18] <text_table_>	 "Keine Berechtigung" (=German for 'no permission')
[12:02:56] <Vulpix>	 error messages are usually more verbose, like "error: 1044: Access denied for user 'wikiuser'@'localhost' to database 'wikidb' when using LOCK TABLES"
[12:09:28] <text_table_>	 Vulpix: -bash: dump.sql: Keine Berechtigung
[12:15:06] <thegamer93>	 Fatal error: Call to undefined method LoadBalancer::hasOrMadeRecentMasterChanges() in /var/www/html/wiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs/frontend/FlaggablePageView.php on line 1254
[12:15:13] <thegamer93>	 next problem with flaggedrevs :/
[12:39:12] <Vulpix>	 text_table_: that may mean that you don't have permission to create the file dump.sql on that folder
[12:42:00] <text_table_>	 @Vulpix: hmm, I was able to create the dump using cpanel —phpmyadmin showed 350MB size while it is actually 250MB big --> thx again Vulpix!
[13:02:13] <xcombelle>	 hi just discovered http://devhub.wmflabs.org/wiki/API:Recent_changes_stream and so pointed to http://codepen.io/Krinkle/pen/laucI/?editors=101 wonder if line 21 should not be: """if (rc.type == 'edit' || rc.type == 'new') {""" instead of: """if (rc.type == 'edit') {""" because a new page is also an edit
[13:07:18] <Vulpix>	 xcombelle: you're right
[13:44:00] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 I am having an issue with the confirmation email feature to register an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Confirmation_Email_not_working_-_Pear_not_installed_58239
[13:44:06] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 I am completely stumped
[13:45:20] <Reedy>	 Is pear in the right place and is your webserver config actually loading it?
[13:46:26] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 probably not, what is the right place/how to check
[13:47:48] <Reedy>	 I presume you're not using cygwin php in iis?
[13:50:16] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 I am kind of dumb so bare with me. Do you mean did  I install the php package in cygwin?
[13:50:29] <Reedy>	 Yes
[13:50:57] <Reedy>	 Because pear in cygwin by default probably wouldn't be linked into PHP just extracted to C:\php or similar
[13:51:26] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 it says "keep" when i go back through the installer, so yes i am guessing
[13:51:34] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 but
[13:51:54] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 it lists 5.6.10-1 as the version
[13:52:00] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 and i am using php 5.4 for my site
[13:52:16] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 does that matter?
[13:52:45] <Reedy>	 it being cygwin?
[13:53:24] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 $ pear config-get php_dir /usr/share/pear
[13:54:31] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 i found this useful document:http://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.checking.php
[13:54:42] <Reedy>	 You really should be doing something like https://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.getting.php
[14:31:28] <Erkan_Yilmaz>	 about yesterday's chat: I am happy about revision deleting, saved quite some space in the DB
[15:54:42] <Rojoss>	 Hey I'd like to install the extension Moderation but I'm not sure how exactly as the information is messed up. I downloaded it and added it to local settings but I don't get the last part. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Moderation
[15:55:13] <Rojoss>	 Run the [[<tvar|update>Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Update.php</>|update script]] which will automatically create the necessary database tables that this extension needs.</translate>
[15:55:28] <Rojoss>	 I don't get anything of that :p
[15:59:19] <thirdtimesneeze_>	 Why does the mobile view of my wiki @ https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/PadPedia  have the localNotice up top?  I have the latest version of Mantle and MobileFrontend
[16:01:58] <GEOFBOT>	 Rojoss: you need to figure out how to run the update script?
[16:02:09] <Rojoss>	 Yeah I think so
[16:02:10] <GEOFBOT>	 you have shell access to your server, no?
[16:02:27] <Rojoss>	 I think I do haven't set anything up yet :p
[16:02:36] <GEOFBOT>	 can you log in to your hosting using ssh?
[16:02:45] <Rojoss>	 yeah just need to set it up
[16:03:18] <GEOFBOT>	 well, log in to your hosting, go to the mediawiki base directory, and go to the maintenance folder
[16:04:38] <Rojoss>	 Can I just do this through FTP or does it have to be SSH?
[16:05:12] <GEOFBOT>	 I believe it has to be SSH because you need to execute a script using php
[16:05:56] <Rojoss>	 Oke let me try get on SSH then
[16:06:02] <Rojoss>	 What script is it?
[16:06:55] <GEOFBOT>	 update.php
[16:07:12] <GEOFBOT>	 go to the 'maintenance' folder under the mediawiki installation folder and type 'php update.php'
[16:07:44] <codezee>	 thirdtimesneeze_: you can also try asking mobile related issues on #wikimedia-mobile, better chance of getting a solution there
[16:56:37] <codezee>	 I have a function here https://dpaste.de/CJ3E which gets a url of an image of given size. I'm trying to write unit test for this, but the call of global wfFindFile() is creating problem
[16:57:01] <codezee>	 My question is, is it possible to write test for this function in presence of this global?
[17:01:51] <saper>	 codezee: well, calling global functions is not forbidden, just check if any global state is influenced by this 
[17:13:18] <codezee>	 saper: the real problem is I cannot mock the global, and I cannot query for random files in the test, without knowing if its uploaded on the wiki or not
[17:31:47] <saper>	 codezee: sorry for that....
[17:32:34] <saper>	 codezee: even fullUrl depends on many things in the environment
[17:34:26] <codezee>	 saper: yes, that function has more then one dependencies which are hard to manage, I can till mock file Object and media Transform object to return mock values, but getting a mock filename is the problem
[18:01:07] <thegamer93>	 I want to know how to get a Featured Article Function like on Wikipedia.
[18:01:08] <thegamer93>	 I  did one Topicon as Template but that can be set by anyone I want this Template to be only usable by SysOPs. How to do this?
[18:02:28] <Vulpix>	 you can't technically prevent people from adding a specific template on a page
[18:03:04] <Vulpix>	 a workaround would be to use AbuseFilter and code a rule that would detect that and block the edit if the user is not a sysop
[18:03:25] <thegamer93>	 okay
[18:03:34] <thegamer93>	 and how is it done on Wikipedia? Do they have custom code?
[18:03:53] <Vulpix>	 I don't think wikipedia blocks people from adding such template to a page
[18:03:59] <thegamer93>	 e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Novels
[18:04:04] <thegamer93>	 here at the top right
[18:04:07] <thegamer93>	 is a star
[18:04:23] <Vulpix>	 just add it to whatever page...
[18:04:55] <thegamer93>	 ok
[18:05:27] <thegamer93>	 thanks
[18:05:34] <thegamer93>	 will try the abuse filter
[18:16:51] <Yaron>	 git.wikimedia.org is down... I assume someone is working on this?
[18:17:16] <Vulpix>	 I doubt that
[18:18:10] <Vulpix>	 that's https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96002 again
[18:20:18] <Yaron>	 Oh well.
[18:22:27] <Yaron>	 I meant "working on fixing this".... maybe there was a misunderstanding there.
[18:24:06] <Vulpix>	 I think someone needs to reboot the server, but I don't know if the one that needs to put his finger on the reset button is aware of the downtime :P
[18:59:44] <codezee>	 I want a style module in ResourceLoader to load only for vector skin, can anyone point out the option I should use in its Resource Loader definition? 
[19:06:03] <KillerWalrus>	 codezee: when you call $out->addModules(), you have access to a RequestContext, so you can check for the skin
[19:07:32] <codezee>	 ok,but is it not possible to do that in ResourcseLoader definition something like when we do targets => (desktop,mobile)?
[19:12:01] <MatmaRex>	 codezee: you can use 'skinStyles' instead of, or in addition to, 'styles'
[19:12:14] * MatmaRex looks up docs
[19:13:05] <MatmaRex>	 hmph, it's documented in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgResourceModules , but that's not very helpful. let's find some practical examples
[19:13:50] <MatmaRex>	 codezee: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-VisualEditor/blob/master/VisualEditor.php#L206-L219
[19:14:58] <codezee>	 MatmaRex: yes I looked up docs, but didn't get much, thanks, that should do :)
[20:11:48] <Rojoss>	 Should the wiki be in public_html/mediawiki/w/ path? I'm trying to set up short urls but I can't get it working.
[20:11:55] <Rojoss>	 http://wiki.clashwars.com/wiki/Main_Page
[20:12:29] <vev>	 how to fix InstantCommons?
[20:15:12] <saper>	 vev: recently I just upgraded :) but check the debug log
[20:18:12] <p858snake>	 vev: we are working n it
[20:18:29] <p858snake>	 there is a php module that can be updated afaik
[20:19:28] <p858snake>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102566
[20:30:02] <vev>	 we have a meeting saturday, will it work?
[20:30:27] <vev>	 or do we have to update the php module?
[20:33:46] <vev>	 saper: 
[20:34:33] <saper>	 in vendor/ yes
[20:34:38] <saper>	 that fixed it 4me
[20:38:04] <vev>	 ok fine
[20:58:16] <thegamer93>	 someone can help me
[20:58:19] <thegamer93>	 afain
[20:58:25] <thegamer93>	 so i did the following !"autoconfirmed" in user_groups
[20:58:25] <thegamer93>	 & ((lcase(new_text) rlike "{{Abenteuer_Icon}}")
[20:58:26] <thegamer93>	 | (new_text rlike "{{Abenteuer_Icon}}"))
[20:58:30] <thegamer93>	 rule
[20:58:35] <thegamer93>	 but it does not work
[20:58:52] <thegamer93>	 normal users still can use {{Abenteuer_Icon}}
[21:00:00] <saper>	 thegamer93: tried !("autoconfirme in user_groups) ?
[21:00:21] <saper>	 thegamer93: besides, what about freshly registered users, not yet autoconfirmed?
[21:13:23] <Rojoss>	 Should the wiki be in public_html/mediawiki/w/ path? I'm trying to set up short urls but I can't get it working.
[21:17:46] <thegamer93>	 @saper good point
[21:17:49] <thegamer93>	 how to rule both? 
[21:37:16] <Rojoss>	 Can someone please help with htaccess and url shorting?
[21:39:25] <Yaron>	 Rojoss: you don't need something like "/mediawiki/w" - one directory is enough.
[21:39:31] <saper>	 Rojoss: tried this? http://shorturls.redwerks.org/
[21:39:41] <Rojoss>	 That's what I'm using
[21:39:53] <Rojoss>	 I changed it to 1 directory now and it's still not working
[21:40:07] <Rojoss>	 http://wiki.clashwars.com/wiki/Main_Page getting a 404
[21:40:08] <saper>	 thegamer93: I use ("sysop" in user_groups) when I needed
[21:40:20] <thegamer93>	 ok
[21:40:39] <saper>	 Rojoss: first try to reach /w/index.php, where is it?
[21:41:02] <Rojoss>	 Should be at http://wiki.clashwars.com/index.php
[21:41:17] <Rojoss>	 wiki.clashwars.com is pointing to the /w/ folder
[21:41:51] <saper>	 ouch
[21:42:45] <Yaron>	 Rojoss: it looks like your MediaWiki code is in /public_html, not in /public_html/w - that's at least one error.
[21:42:57] <saper>	 this owrks http://wiki.clashwars.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[21:42:59] <Rojoss>	 No it's not :O
[21:43:19] <Rojoss>	 That's because wiki. is pointed to /w/
[21:43:51] <Yaron>	 Well, this works: http://wiki.clashwars.com/api.php , while this doesn't: http://wiki.clashwars.com/w/api.php
[21:44:10] <Yaron>	 Could it be that you configured Apache to treat /public_html/w as the web root?
[21:44:12] <Rojoss>	 ./home/clasaqyv/public_html/w/index.php
[21:44:25] <Rojoss>	 Using shared hosted with namecheap
[21:44:56] <Yaron>	 Okay - there's probably an error or two in the URL rewriting.
[21:45:02] <saper>	 Rojoss: your $wgScriptPath and $wgArticlePath are?
[21:45:15] <Rojoss>	 I have a subdomain set to wiki.clashwars.com which goes to public_html/w
[21:45:48] <saper>	 Rojoss: it's easier to setup with "public_html" and then have /w/index.php as a subdir, but as you wish hah
[21:45:49] <Rojoss>	 $wgScriptPath = ""; $wgScriptExtension = ".php"; $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1";
[21:46:08] <Rojoss>	 well as you can tell I have  barely any knowledge about this stuff :p
[21:46:09] <saper>	 Rojoss: and your rewrite rule for /home/clasaqyv/public_html/w/ ?
[21:46:37] <Rojoss>	 http://pastebin.com/tmCDPWZq
[21:46:46] <Rojoss>	 I just used the website to generate it.
[21:47:44] <saper>	 Rojoss: any .htaccess in public_html? any rules in the server config?
[21:48:17] <Rojoss>	 that's the only .htaccess I just bought the host and so it's a fresh install and everything.
[21:48:58] <Rojoss>	 So it should be in the mediawiki root with index.php?
[21:49:02] <Yaron>	 Rojoss: your intial instinct to have something like /mediawiki/w might have actually been the right one, in this case.
[21:49:16] <Yaron>	 ...given that this is just one subdomain of the site.
[21:49:37] <Yaron>	 ...and given that it's helpful to have MediaWiki in a subdirectory beyond the web root.
[21:49:50] <Rojoss>	 Well I can remove the subdomain if it fixes stuff
[21:49:58] <Rojoss>	 I'll probably only use this webhost for the wiki anyways
[21:50:05] <Yaron>	 You can get it working either way - just pick one.
[21:50:14] <saper>	 http://pastebin.com/RL1VfYyC like two you might need $2
[21:50:26] <saper>	 Rojoss: do you have an access to the error_log?
[21:50:38] <Rojoss>	 If it's on CPanel I do let me see
[21:52:05] <saper>	 Rojoss: usually somewhere on the file system
[21:52:21] <saper>	 Rojoss: if in CPanel check if it allows you to set RewriteLog directive in the config
[21:52:32] <Rojoss>	 http://pastebin.com/hDkReBRX That's from error log on cpanel
[21:53:45] <saper>	 Rojoss: is .htaccess enabled at all? can you make a syntax error there and see if it responds with 500?
[21:54:00] <Rojoss>	 it does
[21:54:23] <saper>	 good
[21:56:28] <Rojoss>	 So should I point the sub domain to public_html instead/
[21:56:51] <saper>	 that's a well-known working solution but let's try to fix your .htaccess first
[21:58:21] <saper>	 What about 2nd line like RewriteRule ^/wiki(/.*)$ /index.php$1 [L]
[21:59:15] <jfarwell>	 Hello folks; is anyone aware that git.wikimedia.org is currently giving 503 errors?
[22:00:03] <jfarwell>	 http://pastebin.com/0JAARdDT
[22:00:23] <saper>	 very slow on me
[22:00:48] <Rojoss>	 Doesn't really change anything if I change second line.
[22:01:11] <Rojoss>	 The .htaccess file should be in the mediawiki root folder right?
[22:01:51] <saper>	 it can be in any directory *it refers to*
[22:01:54] <saper>	 so root in your case
[22:02:31] <saper>	 what about this:
[22:04:07] <saper>	 Alias /wiki /home/clasaqyv/public_html/w/inde.php
[22:04:16] <saper>	 instead of the first rewriterule
[22:04:22] <saper>	 Alias /wiki /home/clasaqyv/public_html/w/index.php
[22:04:23] <Rojoss>	 as a new line I suppose?
[22:04:30] <Rojoss>	 ah
[22:04:47] <saper>	 I have a feeling your DOCUMENT_ROOT is still set below
[22:05:04] <Rojoss>	 500 now
[22:05:10] <saper>	 remove
[22:05:29] <saper>	 Rojoss: can you put <?php phpinfo(); in your //home/clasaqyv/public_html/w/pi.php
[22:06:01] <saper>	 just remove that Alias
[22:06:06] <Rojoss>	 Don't have the file pi.php
[22:06:15] <saper>	 create
[22:06:19] <saper>	 with
[22:06:23] <saper>	 <?php phpinfo();
[22:06:25] <saper>	 only
[22:07:24] <saper>	 hm gives me 500
[22:07:28] <Rojoss>	 ye
[22:11:31] <Rojoss>	 Should I contact namecheap?