[08:47:27] but my new theme doesn't recognize it... should i add the class to a configuration file of the theme? [08:48:25]

[08:48:32] text i want to show [08:48:41]

[08:48:49] text i want to "collapse" [08:49:01]

[08:49:18] in the other wiki themes it let me collapse the text [08:49:31] in the theme i installed recently, i can't [08:51:02] should i check the config file? [08:53:17] uh not sure how you have implemented this. presumably javascript? onclick('css.hide') or something? [08:53:54] if your new theme doesn't recognise the class, then yeah, add the class to its stylesheet or whatever [09:11:58] also, where might i ask for some assistance in configuring my wiki's cache correctly? i've been struggling with inconsistencies for some time now where transcluded articles require manual purging of the articles which they appear on before they are updated. this is causing a lot of grief in an otherwise mostly stable setup [09:16:04] i could try, since the pages of my wiki are getting too long (is this because i need the collapsing thing), to add the wiki index in the side bar.... [09:34:53] sorry dottor_k, are you referring to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CollapsibleVector ? [09:35:03] or like, what are you trying to do? [09:41:15] hiya and once again thanks for the most awesomest wiki engine on Planet Earth [09:41:32] I have some wikis with some extensions that were installed manually [09:41:45] I want to have git to do that installing and upgrading [09:41:52] how should I go about this? [09:43:24] The wikis are 1.23.2 [09:43:27] jubo2: Do You have git installed on that wiki host? Are the extensions available from git? [09:43:42] tale: yes. git is installed and working afaik [09:44:00] I never even learnt to use CVS [09:44:10] I keep on hearing that git is muh better [09:44:39] stick this in ~/.bash_aliases [09:44:43] http://hastebin.com/ebukayejeq.rb [09:44:50] will save you a ton of time [09:45:13] then uh once pulled, make sure you "git checkout REL1_2x" where x is the version number of your instance of mediawiki [09:45:14] jubo2: http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html [09:48:39] ok. thanks tale and PJosepherum [09:52:15] PJosepherum: so I put my current MW version and run 'git checkout REL1_23' with that .bash_aliases defined ? [09:52:38] and that will get the latest extensions of the ones I have installed.. correct? [09:53:05] all the bash alias lets you do is run "mwclone example" to clone example.git into the working directory [09:53:51] PJosepherum: got it.. I think.. [09:53:52] you would then have to "cd example && git checkout REL1_2x" [09:54:03] you could add that into the alias also [09:54:07] if you wanted to automate it [09:55:00] http://hastebin.com/ihezamukaw.rb [09:55:01] here [09:55:05] just change the version number [09:55:13] from 1_2x to whatever you need to use [10:04:24] PJosepherum: and git keeps automagically record of which version of which extension has been "cloned" to which directory, right? [10:04:47] "git branch" [10:04:54] "git branch -a" shows all available [10:04:59] PJosepherum: do I need to clean out the existing manually installed extensions or will they be overwritten or what [10:05:22] probably worth deleting them and cloning from scratch [10:05:26] brb gotta cut some grass [10:05:45] I wish I had grass to cut [10:05:59] but I'm poor and live in a condominium [10:17:59] I'm guessing I should update MW first and then remove the extensions manually each-by-each and "clone" the latest versions for REL1_25 into the dirs and then cross fingers and hope it works [10:20:11] can someone confirm this is the course of action to take ? [10:21:07] !upgrade | jubo2 \ [10:21:07] jubo2 \: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [10:21:16] tnx p858snake [10:22:42] hmm [10:22:47] need to install composer [10:22:51] whatevs that is.. [10:23:55] this is complicated [10:26:35] I've backed up the /var/www and the mysql database [10:26:40] I guess I'm good to go [10:27:25] Okay I'm back for a bit. [10:27:42] I haven't much left since I started irccin in 1995 [10:28:20] ok.. didn't irc 1998-2002 [10:30:42] Now running 'git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git' [10:39:40] ok.. installed composer [10:42:16] executed 'git checkout -b REL1_25 origin/REL1_25' [10:54:10] how do I figure out the correct input for mvclone to get each extension [10:54:33] I think I read the instructions right and it said to update the extensions before running 'php update.php' [10:56:15] salut xcombelle [11:00:44] I have now the REL1_25 "cloned" into ~/core/ [11:00:47] Is this right? [11:01:11] Will this cause me problems as my site should be under /var/www and not in ~/core/ [11:02:13] I thought I'd put the new thing together there ( copy LocalSettings.php, images, extensions to there and then move the old w/ dir outta the way and drop in the ~/core/ onto /var/www/consumerium.org/develop/w/ [11:02:21] am I doing it wrong? [11:04:10] am I going to run into trouble if I assume that the name to give to the 'mwclone' command alias is the same as the directory name in extensions/ ? [11:07:54] PJosepherum: can I give mwclone a list of extensions to install or one-by-one ? [11:20:15] so close but not quite.. [11:21:30] I did 'mv ~/core w/' [11:21:48] now the wiki works, complaining about no monobook found but up [11:22:14] now when I try to 'mwclone skins/monobook' in the skins directory I get error [11:22:46] fatal: remote error: Git repository not found [11:23:28] did the moving of the ~/core directory break something inside of git [11:23:31] how do I fix it? [11:24:50] I'm pretty sure I am just one git command away [11:27:45] axa.. [11:27:52] there are dot files [11:28:00] a whole dot directory .git [11:28:27] so there is something stored there that says cannot find the repo because not in ~/core [11:28:40] someone plos help [11:29:15] jubo2, you clned core whilst you were in your home directory [11:29:17] how do I tell the git that /var/www/consumerium.org/develop/w/ is the new ~/core/ afaik the git should be conserned [11:29:22] just move it into /var/www [11:29:32] I did move it [11:29:38] the ~/core/ directory [11:29:44] ahh.. [11:29:47] then all the git files are in the core directory [11:29:50] its's all relative [11:29:52] no need to worry [11:29:58] you mean move dot files from homedir ? [11:30:26] there shuldn't be anything else, you cloned the "core" repository, so all of it ended up in the core directory [11:30:27] now I think I get it [11:30:29] this is the entire wikii [11:30:40] I'm in the wrong dir for the mwclone to work! [11:30:46] yes [11:30:47] sorry [11:30:50] should have explained [11:31:00] cd /var/www/core/extensions [11:31:10] ultimately you will want to rename core to w [11:31:12] for short urls [11:31:13] also [11:31:17] anyway good luck [11:31:21] got more stuff to do [11:32:18] PJosepherum: already got the short URL set ages ago [11:32:23] was a struggle at the time [11:32:33] those rewrite commands are not easy to understand and combine [12:04:55] got it sorted [12:06:20] Hello, I want to change the pagepath from my wiki from /index.php/$1 to /wiki/$1, and i have found an explanation where is said that I have to change the "lighttpd.conf", but i don't have such of file. Is there anyone who can help? [12:08:20] Josse: Are you actually sure it's lighttpd you have, not some other webserver? [12:11:39] hm Glaisher, i'm a dummy and i don't know the difference i think [12:11:43] I* [12:13:12] ah i see [12:13:19] Glaisher: I'm using apache [12:13:32] Ok, then you're looking at the wrong manual :) [12:13:53] :) [12:13:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache is the correct one. [12:14:02] ah, thanx :) [12:20:15] * RobotsOnDrugs <3 nginx [12:29:49] jubo2, how'd it go? [12:31:12] it's going [12:31:43] now with another site http://GloBBA12.si ( my business study wiki ) is giving me a blank page when I try to enable the new MediaWiki [12:32:07] PJosepherum: http://develop.consumerum.org/wiki/Special:Version is now latest and all seems to be well there [12:32:11] josse, did you get it working? apache2.4 vhosts were a pain to set up, required aliases [12:32:23] got an example of my sites-available if necessary [12:32:34] hey well done jubo [12:32:40] PJosepherum: I thought Apache2.4 was a breeze [12:33:00] except it doesn't load [12:33:03] This webpage is not available [12:33:09] just put and use the ServerName and ServerAlias to let the Apache know what you are thinking [12:33:09] is it private or something [12:33:23] yeah i had trouble with short urls [12:33:28] typo [12:33:29] hold [12:33:31] on [12:33:49] should never type URLs into irc, only copy-paste and we wouldn't get this kind of side-product [12:34:20] http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Special:Version [12:34:22] since i installed mw in /var/www/html/w, i had a load of trouble getting the site to alias /wiki [12:34:28] jubo2: blank page probably means a php error; could you take a look at the logs? [12:34:46] PJosepherum: prlly coz you isntalled in /var/www/html and not /var/www [12:34:59] because $IP and $wgScriptPath were different [12:35:00] yeah [12:35:05] i should really clean it up [12:35:17] perhaps this is why i'm having cache issues [12:35:33] where might i ask for some assistance in configuring my wiki's cache correctly? i've been struggling with inconsistencies for some time now where transcluded articles require manual purging of the articles which they appear on before they are updated. this is causing a lot of grief in an otherwise mostly stable setup [12:36:34] PJosepherum: Here. :) [12:36:42] Or on the Support desk [12:37:36] well, my trouble is as specified. transcluded pages, when edited, don't instantly purge caches and it is causing us loads of trouble [12:39:58] That might not be a cache issue [12:40:08] It's updated by the job queue, I think [12:40:11] I turned the debugging log on and hit the site again.. says.. [12:40:18] [fatal] [8a8ed097] /wiki/ ErrorException from line 264 of /var/www/globba12.si/www/w/includes/exception/MWExceptionHandler.php: Fatal Error: Call to undefined method ObjectCache::getMainWANInstance() [12:40:19] #0 [internal function]: MWExceptionHandler::handleFatalError() [12:40:32] that's like greek to me [12:40:37] check out that directory path [12:40:49] /var/www/globba12.si/www/w/.. [12:41:06] here, check out my vhost http://hastebin.com/waxilaqeqo.hs [12:41:25] and also relevant parts of localsettings [12:41:59] http://hastebin.com/sokocowuja.bash [12:42:12] PJosepherum: path is good and the .php file exists there [12:42:22] oh, right, chroot? [12:42:24] must be some of the funky extensions [12:42:38] there is an exception logging thing [12:43:11] http://hastebin.com/olanuqoweb.vbs set this up, create the files and make them writeable by apache [12:43:42] jubo2: I guess some extension or sth is calling on that [12:43:50] but it was introduced recently [12:43:56] Glaisher: I'm guessing the same [12:44:00] so version incompatibility [12:44:07] use the above settings, and /var/log/mediawiki/exception.log will tell you what it is [12:44:14] So, can you checkout the same version for both core and extensions [12:44:20] there shouldn't be incompatibilities if you used REL1_25 branch for all extensions [12:44:30] PJosepherum: I did [12:45:45] so set up debugging # https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug [12:49:16] PJosepherum: setting up that logging scheme only yields the same error message [12:49:20] [fatal] [1f873f8d] /wiki/Cracking_The_Cash_Paid_Surveys_Code ErrorException from line 264 of /var/www/globba12.si/www/w/includes/exception/MWExceptionHandler.php: Fatal Error: Call to undefined method ObjectCache::getMainWANInstance() [12:49:21] #0 [internal function]: MWExceptionHandler::handleFatalError() [12:49:41] hmm [12:49:44] so object cache [12:49:49] is your cache directory writeable? [12:49:56] PJosepherum: I dunno [12:50:04] I check if it is writable by www-data [12:50:08] $wgCacheDirectory = '/tmp/mediawiki'; [12:50:18] chown www-data:www-data [12:50:25] (or whichever user is apache) [12:51:05] I dunno where the cache directory currently is [12:51:08] * jubo2 sips his cold one [12:51:30] I don't think it would call a undefined method fatal error even if it's writable [12:51:42] s/call/throw/ [12:51:53] I have a semi-stupid idea [12:52:17] comment out the require_once of each extension till the thing starts loading [12:52:58] jubo2: could you paste the stacktrace? [12:53:08] if it is not set, then you are not caching i think. i dunno [12:53:13] still trying to get my head around cache [12:53:25] Glaisher: yeah if you tell me where I can get it [12:53:44] like, i don't have enough ram for memcached to be feasible, but file object cache takes too long to update and doesn't purge properly when i edit stuff that is transcluded [12:53:46] it's on the error log [12:53:51] after setting a $wg variable [12:54:01] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShowExceptionDetails [12:54:04] jubo2: ^ [12:55:17] it printed on webpage [12:55:32] where is the brainsanest pastebin around these parts of the interweb? [12:56:38] oh sheesh [12:57:03] I guess you removed < at the start of the file [12:57:14] so it's no longer getting read as a php file [12:57:39] whoops! [12:59:42] that is fixed but I'm not seeing the stacktrace [13:00:20] reload the log file? [13:00:45] Glaisher: I'm doing a 'tail -f' on it [13:01:59] hm [13:05:34] I gotta go get something to eat [13:37:27] I gotta go BBQ [13:39:12] lol how stupid, one has to build component breakdowns manually https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/rtl/ [13:45:02] Nemo_bis: people shouldn't be abusing workboards for that, eh [13:45:33] it's really stupid, you can have the same thing with a custom search, griuping by projects. (just not in columns) [14:30:56] Does anyone have thoughts on how I can reasonably search for pages that *aren't* in a specific category (or don't contain a specific template?) [14:31:27] (I'm not too afraid to do some SQL, but I suspect there's an easier option) [14:33:46] negative searches are bad for performance, since they can't use indexes [14:58:36] BBQ was good. Now back. [14:58:48] though a little more tipsy than last time [15:06:39] I am having an issue with the LdapAuthentication extension when using php 5.6.11. I know it worked when I was using 5.6.10. Is there someone here who can give me some assistance with it? [15:10:07] So I have a MW installation that is getting some exception thrown now that I've upgraded the MW core and the extensions to the REL1_25 [15:12:37] Before the BBQ we were trying to get the exception thrown to show more info by enabling '$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;' and '$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;' [15:13:03] but the log file doesn't include any extra info [15:17:06] jubo2: that setting is usually to include the error message instead of [exception of type MWException] or similar, on the exception shown on the page. The exception isn't logged in the debug log AFAIK [15:20:34] Vulpix: the page ain't showing any content and neither in the '$wgDebugLogFile = "/var/log/mediawiki/debug-mediawiki.log";' [15:21:10] !blank [15:21:10] A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [15:21:24] you should change error_reporting [15:21:54] and/or look at the apache's error_log [15:24:25] MatmaRex: yes you can group by project but not "ignore" some projects in the grouping (nor differentiate components from tags), I suppose that's the point? [15:30:12] If I am reading https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShowExceptionDetails right it says nothing about logging the stacktraces [15:30:29] which is sort of strange [15:32:02] Manual:how to debug says [15:33:49] I've tried to set the variable to true but it has no effect that I could see with [15:34:10] what variable? [15:34:11] 'tail -f /var/log/mediawiki/debug-mediawiki.log [15:34:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShowExceptionDetails [15:34:28] that variable [15:35:08] but the stacktrace should be displayed on the page, not the debug log [15:35:25] but it is not [15:35:30] on fatal errors, apparently [15:35:35] ..... being display [15:35:57] error_reporting( -1 ); ini_set( 'display_startup_errors', 1 ); ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 ); [15:36:11] Vulpix: ok [15:36:58] progress. thanks Vulpix [15:36:59] Fatal error: Call to undefined method ObjectCache::getMainWANInstance() in /var/www/globba12.si/www/w/extensions/Gadgets/Gadgets_body.php on line 330 [15:37:14] Gadgets.. I need to figure out if anything depends on that [15:37:24] I don't even remember what Gadgets does [15:37:31] !e Gadgets [15:37:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets [15:37:40] ok thänks you are fast [15:38:07] wm-bot is :P [15:39:57] ok.. stopped loading the Gadgets and now the wiki is looking pretty good [15:42:20] !e Vector [15:42:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Vector [15:42:30] this is some vintage rubbish too I guess [15:46:01] Could anyone reply? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#CreateWiki_.28WikiFarm.29_58665 [15:52:31] Thankx Vulpix for your crucial help [15:53:24] yw [15:53:26] Now the wiki seems to be in a non-broken state.. give or take some LUA using templates not redering 100% right [15:55:26] http://globba12.si/wiki/Special:Version shows "" on each of installed extension [15:56:43] not a serious problem I think. Just thought I'd mention [15:59:41] Anyone? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#CreateWiki_.28WikiFarm.29_58665 [16:00:15] Now I get error from another extension when I try to edit a page [16:00:32] jubo2: turn off https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseTidy ? maybe you should also remove all the debug options you have turned on [16:00:39] !e TitleBlacklist [16:00:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist [16:06:40] Vulpix do you think you would help with a extension (CreateWiki)? [16:06:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#CreateWiki_.28WikiFarm.29_58665 [16:07:22] removed that extension as well.. now all seems to be working fine [16:08:24] Can anyone assist with the LdapAuthentication extension? [16:13:17] Reception|away: no, sorry [16:21:28] ok [19:38:53] does "{{[something]}}" mean template? [19:40:16] nvm, found my answer [21:26:04] hi i am about to migrate my wiki's database between servers and am concerned about the character set being encoded in latin-1. is some body experienced with mysql available to help guide me through the process of dumping, converting, and restoring? [21:26:21] mw version is 1.25.1 [21:32:28] PJosepherum: although you might get lucky, I would not expect anyone to volunteer, because it's not obvious how much help you'd need and how long it would take. If you can't find anyone to partner with you, your best bet is to just read the relevant documentation in advance, and then ask for help with specific problems as you encounter them. [21:35:40] i think i can handle it, but i don't like that is entirely clear from, what instructions i have been able to find [21:36:03] uh and i didn't sleep for like 24 hours, as is apparent from that mangled sentence [21:36:30] instructions not clear [21:40:28] PJosepherum: hope you get some rest soon :) [21:41:44] aha thanks [21:42:19] i might leave this until it is safer to do so [21:44:45] !help [21:44:45] There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer. If you're looking for help pages, we moved that to !helpfor.