[01:13:18] I wonder if I can make it out of Courchevel in a DC-3 [02:04:40] ping Nikerabbit [05:56:25] Hello, i'm updating Xampp and i have the possibility to use PHP 7. Is it safe/recommended to run MediaWiki 1.25.2/1.26alpha on PHP 7? [06:00:05] Josse: no, we don't support PHP7 yet [06:00:13] okay [06:00:26] so 5.6.11 is safe? [06:00:35] Yup [06:01:03] okay, thank you! [06:01:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#PHP [06:58:41] hi gangleri|away [07:10:18] Nemo_bi ping [07:11:12] Nemo_bis ping [07:14:02] Nemo_bis did you see https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Nemo_bis&action=history There is no modification when special:MyPage or subpages are changed ;-( [07:16:20] Nemo_bis this fact is not **practical** it might work as intended but it should be a feature request [07:24:06] gangleri|back: you want to see the history of all subpages together? [07:26:38] No! I get notifications when [[special:MyPage]] is changed but not at [[special:MyTalk]] [07:28:52] Notifications when changes to [[special:MyTalk]] are made would be the first step; the issue with the user subpages is more complicated, encooding requires more work [08:16:59] Since I can't find anything useful googling, I might as well ask here. I just set up a wiki for educational purposes. What extensions should I get right away? [08:57:35] hey guys... I was curious... I'm setting up a wiki (for compiler devving because apparently no popular ones exist) and apparently I already have some extensions installed. I'm not sure what they do. is there a page that lists what popular extensions do? [09:28:58] FTR I helped dtscode in PM [09:35:29] Does anybody know what the page editor is on the MediaWiki.org website? [09:35:30] It's not WikiEditor is it? [09:35:32] WikiEditor doesn't look like that at all in 1.25.2 [09:52:36] help! [09:52:38] https://pl.wikiradio.org/index.php?title=Człowiek_2.0&curid=1957&action=history [09:52:40] I'm lost [09:53:04] don't know even what to type into google to find what's going on [09:55:18] you are serving content that is double gzip'ed [09:55:48] probably because your server is configured twice to compress it by accident. [09:56:10] ha, I've only found that to happen on history pages [09:56:24] two of them [09:56:38] and one only when I've been logged in… [09:57:13] and now it worked for one load [09:57:24] some cache misconfig probably then [09:57:25] thx [10:08:07] thedj: yup, that was both hhvm and mediawiki compressing [10:14:04] We had that problem with ShoutWiki ... it was horrible to track down. [10:17:22] vagrant also had that: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/145771/1 [10:20:39] well, crisis resolved [10:20:44] thanks again, bye [10:26:06] Hi, I try to do import via Special:Import by I get this error: Import failed: An ICU collation was requested, but the intl extension is not available. [10:26:17] any idea what should I install? [10:26:44] Install the intl extension? [10:27:02] in mediawiki? [10:27:06] no [10:27:10] it's a php extension [10:27:58] ok, tnx [10:32:13] Sorry if this is a mundane question... but what is the editor used on the MediaWiki.org website ? [10:34:55] Using edit or edit source? [10:35:39] Just clicking edit... it brings up a toolbar [10:35:56] It doesn't look like WikiEditor [10:35:57] on what page? [10:36:00] I'm presuming VisualEdito [10:36:01] r [10:37:05] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor , for example [10:37:40] !e VisualEditor [10:37:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor [10:38:14] Ahhh, that looks like it. [10:38:21] Thanks :) [14:35:07] Hello [14:35:31] Does anyone have a minute to educate me about templates in MediaWiki? [14:37:56] perhaps [14:37:57] !ask [14:37:57] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [14:40:29] I've installed UploadWizard, but all it does is say 'This page has been disabled due to temporary technical problems. In the meantime try the standard upload form.' [14:40:35] How do I debug this? [14:46:04] Isarra: you might have JavaScript disabled, or not loading, or something. [14:46:46] js is enabled and loading. [14:46:54] It works for the search stuff, at least. [14:47:50] I want to create a Template:Refimprove (banner at the top of articles asking for more references) in my MediaWiki v1.23.9, but when I cut and paste the same banner code from Wikipedia, it doesn't render at all on MediaWiki. Am I missing some critical extensions? If so, which ones? [14:48:05] MatmaRex: It's just uw. How do I even figure out what's wrong with it? [14:48:44] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Refimprove&action=edit [14:48:50] cypherpunk: almost certainly ParserFunctions and likely Scribunto [14:49:13] ok, let me go try installing those - thanks [14:49:27] cypherpunk: you'll also need to import all the templates this depends on [14:49:36] cypherpunk: (see the list "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page" at the bottom of that page) [14:49:48] Ahhh [14:49:51] and all the templates that these depend on, and so on [14:50:11] it might be easier to use Special:Export and Special:Import [14:50:17] Isarra: is the wiki public? [14:52:11] MatmaRex: Aye. http://wiki.zaori.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard [14:52:22] Wow, I just read about special:export/import - I didn't realize the nesting as that complicated [14:52:59] I wonder if there is a much simpler format for a Template:Refimprove template [14:53:19] cypherpunk: you might try some older version of it [14:53:28] good idea - thx [14:55:00] cypherpunk: this one from 2009 looks nice, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Refimprove&action=edit&oldid=321816267 [14:55:13] i'm not sure what features, if any, were added since then [14:55:37] Isarra: bah, i need an account to view it. [14:57:36] MatmaRex: I can make you one. [15:47:20] Hi, I would like to contribute to the Wikimedia organisation. I already setup the virtual machine using Wikimedia-vagrant. I would like to know how to continue from there. Thank you! [17:19:13] Hello, has anyone idea what can be a problem? I have finished editing a page and I´m trying to save it, but I can´t go through CAPTCHA verification. I rewrite the text and CAPTCHA reloads with new code... [18:31:03] legoktm: hi [18:31:17] any idea why does https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109057 happen? [18:31:43] I tried looking at package.json and the jenkins config, but wasn't sure what's causing it. [18:34:01] aharoni: for all users? you have to be whitelisted for full test suite to run on your patchsets [18:36:25] MatmaRex: it's a GSoC projects, [18:36:31] so usually the patches are by Ankita-ks, [18:36:41] and I or eranroz review them, [18:37:01] but jshint and such only happen after +2 [18:37:22] it would make much more sense that such simple tests would happen after sending the patch set [18:37:33] aharoni: the whitelist is in integration/config repository, file zuul/layout.yaml. note that it's duplicated there for silly reasons. just submit a patch and poke hashar to merge it. [18:37:48] MatmaRex: looking [18:38:03] everyone @wikimedia.org is whitelisted by default, so staff don't experience this problem :/ [18:53:59] unless they use a non-@wikimedia.org address in gerrit [18:58:26] Krenair, MatmaRex and myself all have our non-wikimedia addreses whitelisted ;) [18:58:47] MatmaRex: makes sense? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231902/ [18:59:02] true. i often don't count volunteer-turned-staff as staff, heh. [18:59:21] aharoni: i think you need to add it to the second list below in that file [18:59:42] (i have no idea why there are two lists, and what each of them controls) [19:01:01] The first list adds you to the whitelist, the second adds you to a blacklist so it doesn't keep running the +1 tests for you [19:02:48] MatmaRex: legoktm - makes more sense? - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231902/ [19:03:41] over 7500 lines [19:04:18] aharoni: looks sane to me [19:04:21] diffing that file makes my browser about a nonresponsive script and my desktop environment complaining about a nonresponsive window [19:04:27] thanks [19:04:34] aharoni: try the new gerrit change view! [19:04:40] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231902/3/zuul/layout.yaml,cm [19:05:41] aharoni: I can merge and deploy that once I'm on my computer in a few hours, I'm on my phone right now [19:05:56] legoktm: thanks a lot [19:06:07] (I merge from my phone every now and then ;) ) [19:10:22] I can do the merge from my phone, but not the deploy part :P [20:05:00] legoktm: get ready for a lot of commits with Gadget namespaces names [20:06:35] what "gadget-defintion" namespace stands for? [20:06:50] is it expected to have single page? :) [20:10:07] for Flow I did one big commit, because I trusted myself to find a translation for the single word "Topic" in a lot of languages, and it worked (as in, "nobody really complained"). [20:10:42] I could do the same for the word "Gadget" alone, but for four different namespaces with meaningful names... no. [20:11:02] we already have a couple [20:11:13] (Thank god there's no "Topic talk".) [20:11:31] there's debate on the task about whether we need two or not [20:12:01] gadget-defintion sounds like a namespace for single page [20:12:24] I'm biased, but https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231895/ should be +2ed ASAP ;) [20:13:09] 10x [20:14:46] Each gadget has one page in the gadget definition namespace [20:15:20] aharoni, that should have been -2'd like the others. [20:16:30] Otherwise we're encouraging more people to translate things which might get reverted out again [20:17:15] That's not the end of the world [20:17:16] what will be reverted? [20:17:27] Krenair: translating four namespace names is not noticeably more effort than translating two. [20:17:29] eranroz, nothing, yet. I said "might" for a reason [20:17:38] Krenair: submitting the patch is the "difficult" part, not translation. :) [20:18:08] (especially since all of this is already translated, just in different grammatical context. in the names of special page, user rights, and so on) [20:20:38] Krenair: i'll merge the outstanding translation patches, shall i? [20:20:57] since i already merged one before you raised the alarm… :P [20:20:57] If you can review all of them. [20:21:02] Do you really speak all those languages [20:21:09] ? [20:21:10] looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/projects/mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets,dashboards/default [20:21:27] i trust both Mxn and Mjbmr to know what they're doing. they both submitted worthwhile patches in the past. [20:21:29] There's a task for Urdu [20:21:39] You trust Mjbmr to know what he's doing? [20:22:36] well, there are levels of trust ;) i definitely do trust them to translate a few words of a language they speak. [20:22:54] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109206 [20:24:59] Krenair: that guy i don't know, but google translate tells me these translations are legit enough, so i'd just do that too [20:25:16] This one seems to have review from Urdu Wikipedians which is good [20:25:51] Krenair: it should be easy enough to compare the others to the .json translations in given language [20:26:08] (unless the languages are exceptionally weird in their plural noun forms, or something) [20:28:22] Krenair: doingggggg it [20:29:14] k [20:34:44] Krenair: want to +2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231964/ ? :) [20:39:37] Should we send an email to translators-l or something? [20:39:57] dammit legoktm [20:40:02] I was +2ing that :p [20:40:07] :P [20:40:15] Krenair: i did the Urdu one, too. race! [20:46:35] Someone should just fix Special:AdvancedTranslate ;) [20:47:23] what's broken about it? [20:47:31] Not sure exactly [20:47:35] I just know it's disabled on twn [20:47:50] Nikerabbit is back from vacation tomorrow, although he's busy with Stuff. [20:48:26] Mjbmr created a task about enabling it [20:48:33] And then refused to stop subscribing me to the task [20:48:40] I tried to use the edit policy, but that didn't work [20:48:54] clearly you need a herald rule [20:48:58] "It's unusable, as it's throwing exceptions more than doing its thing." [20:49:19] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109235 [20:49:32] Could adjust task visibility against him, but then he'll make another [20:49:39] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rGTWN63c90e2932b562a6ffa7ccca5f74698359dacd4b [20:50:34] SpecialMagic ,3 [20:50:35] <3. [20:55:05] Reedy, want to link to that on the task? [21:36:27] legoktm: around to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/231902/ ? [22:07:11] [b290b4e8] 2015-08-16 22:02:48: Fatal exception of type MWException ← whenever I attempt to upload a file to my wiki I get this error. how can I fix it? [22:07:38] dtscode, checked your apache error log? [22:08:06] Krenair: no not yet. where would I find that? [22:08:48] dtscode, /var/log/apache2/error.log usually [22:09:02] alright thanks. I'll check that [22:12:24] https://bpaste.net/show/55e4743ea163 yes the end of the log has an error for the uploading, but I can't make sense of what it means [22:14:28] oh wait. is it a permissions issue? [22:17:29] yep [22:17:41] /var/www/html/images needs to be writable by your web server [22:17:48] or uploads can't work [22:18:28] ah ok. thanks