[00:00:31] legoktm: https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Tech%3ANoticeboard&diff=18318&oldid=17815 [00:18:54] NDK|Cloud: hi [00:19:01] NDK|Cloud: what does special:globalrenameprogress say? [00:21:25] legoktm: queued for 3 wikis [00:21:56] legoktm: possibly worth noting the global rename was queued 2 months and 6 days ago.. [00:22:39] NDK|Cloud: and on any of those wikis, what does showJobs.php --group say? does it have a LocalRenameUserJob queued? [00:23:58] NDK|Cloud: having the exception log or runJobs log from that time would be nice, but it might be too late... you can try the recovery process listed on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:CentralAuth/Global_rename [00:24:53] I'll check showJobs --group but immediately, and again several days after the queued rename, I did showJobs.php (without --group) and it displayed 0 jobs on several wikis, I ran all queued jobs on every wiki and it still didn't fix it [00:25:14] The recovery process on that page kind of confused me :( I'll check showjobs again but then I'd appreciate if you could help me with that ;-; [00:29:56] NDK|Cloud: are you familiar with eval.php? [00:30:03] Nope [00:30:10] Prolly why that was confusing :) [00:30:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Eval.php [00:30:50] it's a script that lets you run arbitrary PHP in the context of MediaWiki [00:34:02] I see [00:34:12] I kinda figured.. eval -> evaluation/evaluate something like that.. [00:35:50] legoktm: for the record on one of our servers, "sudo php5 showJobs.php --wiki loginwiki --group" showed nothing, assuming it wont on other servers and most wikis too [00:37:18] so the job probably failed at some point and dropped out of the queue [00:38:23] * NDK|Cloud takes this opportunity to rebuild LC [00:38:36] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110345 help here is also appreciated, but I'm more worried about the renames [00:38:46] will look at the other page again as soon as LC finishes rebuilding [00:39:26] umm [00:39:32] I thought addshore had that working? [00:39:41] nope [00:39:54] we discussed LC tricks at the MWF meeting at the developer summit earlier this year [00:40:01] Arcane has a cron job force rebuild LC, but addshore removed it and I'm not exactly sure why [00:40:17] (I mean, besides the obvious, regular force LC rebuilds was a dumb bandaid, but .. :p it worked ) [00:50:45] wow what did I do ;-; [00:51:05] All of orain.org appears down for me.. anyone mind quickly confirming :p? [01:06:16] Cool Orain's up.. back to what i was doing! [01:22:04] legoktm : still there? [01:22:16] looking at those instructions and wondering what I do if it failed on multiple wikis, or how do I tell which wiki it failed on [01:22:27] NDK|Cloud: yes [01:22:34] NDK|Cloud: well it failed on the wikis that are still "queued" [01:22:41] you'll have to run that on each wiki individually [01:26:55] soo.. all of them [01:26:56] okay :p [01:27:17] question: would it be bad to run that on wikis where the user doesnt exist? (we have a nice script to run things on all wikis :3) [01:36:17] NDK|Cloud: um, yes, it will be bad [01:48:11] legoktm good to know :D [02:06:31] I am having a formatting error where when i add a space to the front of the line it extends beyond that normal page width: #mw-content-text > pre [02:06:44] Look here:https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/How_Modules_Work [02:06:54] Any ideas fine ladies and gents [02:24:10] ? [11:23:02] Ich nutze die Erweiterung "MultimediaViewer". Dabei habe ich einige große Bilder, die im Viewer selbst verkleinert werden, damit sie vollständig sichtbar sind. Ich möchte aber, dass die Bilder in originalgröße angezeigt werden (dann muss halt gescrollt werden). Jemand eine Idee, wie ich das mache? [11:24:14] In english: Is it possible to show pictures in real size if I open it in "MultimediaViewer"? [16:22:15] I’m making a request to get mobile html for pages: https://en.m.wikivoyage.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=San Francisco&prop=text&format=json&mobileformat&disableeditsection&noimages [16:22:52] It doesn’t include any css, so what I get are some really small fonts [16:23:36] How do I properly display the html on mobile devices? [16:23:47] Should I write my own style sheets? [16:33:01] reynaldo, have you checked out the MobileFrontend extension? [16:33:10] Not yet [16:43:24] So it turns out I’ve been using the MobileFrontend extension without knowing it [16:43:47] https://en.m.wikivoyage.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=San Francisco&prop=text&format=json&mobileformat=html&disableeditsection&noimages — this seems to be part of the extension [16:44:29] action=parse is part of mediawiki itself [16:44:29] I must be missing something — the CSS listed here (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend#Extended_action.3Dparse) doesn’t seem complete [16:44:30] MobileFrontend enhances it [16:44:33] i thin [16:44:33] Ah [16:44:34] k [16:46:31] Basically, here is an iOS simulator screenshot with the html that I’ve consumed from the API: http://i.imgur.com/VFPLruR.png [16:46:36] The text is super small [16:47:15] I’ve tried applying body { font-size: 150% } to all of the html but not all of the elements would increase in size [16:47:48] So then I tried * { font-size: 150% } and I get really weird results [16:48:51] I could build the CSS myself, but I might not cover all elements across all pages [17:38:24] One of the plugins I'm using includes remove javascript for an embedded video. the page rendering is different on http vs https. If someone looks at the page on http, it renders with the http ref to javascript and the https view loads from the cache which does not work. [17:38:57] it I purge the page, and re-render on https, it work, but reverting back to http is then broken. How do I fix this? :( [17:41:06] TimRiker: use a protocol relative url like "//example.org/foo/bar" [17:42:22] what is it with mediawiki and foobar [17:42:27] :p [18:06:37] Hi, we are starting a meeting in #wikimedia-office about the Web APIs hub in mediawiki.org. You are invited! See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110108 [19:03:17] Yaron: do you have a minute for a quick question about Approved Revisions? [19:08:54] Yaron: added my question to the Approved Revs Discussion page [19:51:03] wmat: sorry, I missed this before. [19:51:12] But I just answered your question on the talk page. [20:04:14] Yaron: thx, I figured it'd be better there anyway [21:17:15] hi [21:17:29] is there an automated way to keep extensions upgraded, yet? [21:19:07] the requirements seem to be provided already - the extension distributor allow you to download the latest available extension version which is compatible to a given mediawiki version. so just the scripting part seems to be lacking? [21:20:49] (i'm not a big fan of web applications upgrading themselves, since this is often done in a rather insecure way. but i'm discussing extension updates 'only' here, which may be more beneficial to security than lack of such a function, if done right.) [21:22:08] tomreyn: not yet. I've been slowly working on building up the infrastructure for it. Right now we're lacking a way for extensions to actually indicate what versions of MediaWiki they're compatible with...extension distributor is basically guessing at this point. [21:22:26] My goal is to get https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/210856/ into 1.26 [21:22:54] oh guessing sounds problematic. well thanks for driving this forward. [21:25:30] sounds good :) [21:26:22] how long would the merge review process usually take? [21:26:55] Its only +139 loc [21:27:04] * ostriches pokes [21:28:12] whom did you poke there? :-P [21:29:22] tomreyn: your question is really complicated, and I'm not sure I have enough context (or can get enough) to answer it. "usually" implies uniformity in merge complexity [21:29:24] Gah gerrit on phobe [21:29:39] Phone even [21:31:03] Ahhhh, laptop screen. Much better. [21:31:40] robla: a median would be fine ;) but i am rather looking for a rough idea than computationally sound statistics. [21:32:37] the human ability to make guesses with limited computational overhead is quite useful. [21:32:55] legoktm: lgtm as long as the vendor changes land. [21:33:37] tomreyn: qgil has some dashboards on this, but I don't remember what those say [21:34:03] ostriches: the vendor change is already in :) the last thing was bikeshed over "requires" vs "supports" for the field name [21:34:30] I like blue bikesheds [21:36:32] legoktm: Requires is probably better since it blows up completely on a version mismatch [21:37:33] hehe alright [21:38:04] I'll fix that in a few minutes, I'm currently running a script to test a patch in every single language MW supports >.< [21:53:59] how do I opt in for Flow on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:RobLa-WMF ? How about a subpage? [21:57:05] * robla finds https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow/Request_Flow_on_a_page [22:07:41] * Platonides wonders what does people find cool in flow [22:15:00] robla: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=RobLa-WMF&namespace=3 says you only have the one? [22:15:21] robla: (Wildcard 'enablement' isn't a thing in Flow, I'd have to manually do it for each page…) [22:15:36] James_F: I plan to make more pages. Should I make stubs now? [22:15:50] robla: Or just tell me their names, no need to make pre-pages. [22:16:12] robla: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:RobLa-WMF is now a Flow board. [22:18:13] James_F: the two subpages I just created (/Blog and /Notes): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RobLa-WMF [22:19:08] robla: Done. [22:19:09] (and thanks for the quick turnaround!) [22:20:06] robla: No problem. :-) [22:35:24] legoktm: of that this were possible. the brightcove extension uses https://sadmin.* or http://admin.* so // does not work either. I've hardcoded it to https for now, which at least loads when embedded in an http page. [22:35:57] TimRiker: :( well, forcing https is also a good thing :) [22:36:35] not for slow machines trying to stream video. but alas, it's better than it not loading. :) [22:36:55] I know 2 guys that work for brightcove [23:01:03] * wmat needs Brightcove suppost in EmbedVideo extension [23:13:19] hi mediawiki [23:13:22] Reedy, see if they will fix the javascript include so ///script works. not a different name. :) [23:13:48] hi firebus [23:13:57] what do i do if i want to override the HTML output of a (custom) special page in my skin? is there a way to have a special page just return a set of template variables that the skin can decide how to markup? [23:14:05] hi Krenair [23:31:36] hallo! time to install mediawiki. So I have a kinda dilemna. [23:31:39] two, in fact [23:43:08] Volund: are you going to tell us what they are? ;) [23:43:39] now that I have mediawiki up sure [23:43:41] okay so [23:44:38] Frustration Point 1) I am trying to find a good skin, theme, etc, to use for a simple wiki. I really like having a sidebar menu (although a top menu is fine too) with pop-outs/drop-downs. Are there any good ones that do this? [23:44:46] for example: [23:45:05] http://phantasmgames.org/ex/wiki/ [23:45:25] see the navigation bar there, this is Nimbus. I kinda like it, but I can't seem to kill that Shoutwiki thing on top [23:45:53] Do you know other skins that let me do that with the sidebar? [23:46:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_skins has a list of some skins, and those linked pages should have screenshots [23:46:36] oh, you could talk to ashley about that [23:50:19] yeah I've been looking through those but I'm hoping to get some -advice- about which ones are good from someone who knows what each does. @_@ [23:50:38] Nimbus is nice but I was wondering if there was anything fancier with similar sidebar functionality. anyways [23:51:56] Frustration Point 2) I'm not really a PHP'y sort of person. I'm a MUSHcoder (chances are nobody here knows what that means), but one of my big things is a PHP website that can post roleplay logs to mediawiki. Much of the code wasn't originally mine and I don't understand most of it, but I do know roughly how to install it. However, installing it is hell. [23:52:08] It requires a boatload of Mediawiki extensions of all different sorts. [23:52:57] I'm wondering if there is some way to greatly simplify that aspect. package the extensions or something. Except that keeps getting weirder because they keep updating and ??? [23:53:13] Does anyone recommend any free mobile themes for media wiki [23:53:49] Also is there any good free htnl editors