[01:14:08] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Is there a way to rebuild /all/ the thumbnails? I have a site with existing images and a newly installed imagemagick
[03:08:09] <Katie>	 Krenair: Who deleted !hss?
[07:26:01] <floydwilde>	 3~
[07:28:43] <floydwilde>	 err, oops 
[07:29:45] <floydwilde>	 does anyone know if anyone is working on a new debian package for mediawiki? 
[09:38:05] <natbrown>	 Good morning from UK, long time no chat! 
[09:40:46] <natbrown>	 I have a question about using <onlyinclude> in templates. I have meditated on it for few days... Tried this too http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8947654/is-there-a-way-to-get-onlyinclude-included-onto-a-mediawiki-page-via-a-templa It doesn't work in my case. Can anyone help? 
[09:43:17] <natbrown>	 Brion: Can you help? Here is my question, you joined a minute after I asked it and I know that you know the answer. 
[09:43:23] <natbrown>	 I have a question about using <onlyinclude> in templates. I have meditated on it for few days... Tried this too http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8947654/is-there-a-way-to-get-onlyinclude-included-onto-a-mediawiki-page-via-a-templa It doesn't work in my case. Can anyone help? 
[09:45:57] <natbrown>	 brion: I'm not sure if Brion is the same as brion here. Appologies. Good morning too.
[09:52:58] <andre__>	 natbrown, that stackoverflow thread has a working answer, so what is your question?
[09:53:06] <andre__>	 ah. it doesn't work for you. i see.
[09:54:23] <brion>	 Heh... If those answers don't do it I'm not too sure what the answer is. That's some deep magic, I generally avoid weird transclusion hacks :)
[09:55:00] <natbrown>	 andre_:Thank you for answering. It's a good answer there, but it's an answer not for my question. Here is how I have to use it now: http://wikitranslate.org/w/index.php?title=What_is_it_1&action=edit 
[09:56:15] <saper>	 natbrown: hello, long time no see :)
[09:56:29] <natbrown>	 I have to make the users to add <onlyinclude></onlyinclude> to the tezt as you can see here: http://wikitranslate.org/w/index.php?title=What_is_it_1&action=formedit Can I get rid of the things!
[09:57:33] <natbrown>	 saper: Yes, long time no see! Still trying... Have to try to make the life of the users easy... It's not easy at all! ;) 
[10:00:09] <natbrown>	 brion:Thank you for your answer. We'll keep on thinking... 
[10:00:23] <saper>	 natbrown: I looked at the Template:Lesson and at the page ^^ and I am not sure what you are trying to achieve...
[10:01:36] <saper>	 {{{M|}}} ends up in <poem>, right?
[10:02:22] <chippy>	 hrm, i'm still getting trapped by filters on http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org ... only perhaps when editing a template in a page?
[10:02:42] <natbrown>	 I want to enable users to see different translations of the lesson on any page. I don't want to make different templates for it. You can see English vs Russian on the page, but you can see English vs any other existing translation on the page too. You just add a switch.
[10:03:59] <natbrown>	 super:Yes, it's adds in "poem". Since I don't want the users to use too much script.
[10:04:02] <saper>	 I see both now (en and ru) is this bad?
[10:04:39] <saper>	 who are the "users"? is http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/What_is_it_1 meant to be transcluded as a template as well? 
[10:04:40] <natbrown>	 If your native language is Arabic, and you don't know Russian it's bad.#
[10:05:18] <natbrown>	 The users are the people who create the other translations of the lesson.
[10:06:34] <saper>	 ok
[10:06:42] <saper>	 so I think you don't want <onlyinclude>
[10:10:10] <saper>	 natbrown: I think you might want to have something like that https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:LangSwitch
[10:10:35] <natbrown>	 saper: I added tag:  |Tl=Arabic now so you can see the page in English and Arabic now  http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/What_is_it_1 We will be working on Arabic translation and will make the video too.
[10:14:26] <saper>	 natbrown: I think you run into problems are because a whole body is sucked into template parameter. I'd rather do {{LessonHeader}} {{LessonFooter}} if needed and then use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:LangSwitch in between. Many wiki functions will break if used just as a template parameter, I think.
[10:16:35] <natbrown>	 super:Thank you for the link. I will thin on how to break the template into  {{LessonHeader}} {{LessonFooter}}. And meditate on Template:LangSwitch too ;) 
[10:17:14] <saper>	 {{LessonHeader|pl=Lekcja|en=Lesson}} {{LangSwitch|en=Hello, I am Richard Brown|ru=Привет, меня эовут Наташа... etc.
[10:17:35] <saper>	 You still get most of the text inside the template parameter, but at least language switching is outside
[10:21:03] <natbrown>	 saper:Thanks! Another week of meditation! ;) Will do though! :D
[10:23:20] <natbrown>	 Swithced the page back to Russian for usual visitors: learners of Russian so they aren't lost for now.
[10:52:30] <chippy>	 any chance that  http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/88 could be lifted for Chippyy user. I'm adding the Map template which adds the links
[10:52:59] <chippy>	 and so anytime I edit that Map template I get jailed :)
[10:53:22] <chippy>	 well, not edit the template itself, but a page on which I add that template
[11:41:34] <paolo_>	 Hi guys! I have an extension which need to load a js file from another web site: is it possible?
[12:00:49] <andre__>	 paolo_, errm, why not? :)
[12:05:41] <paolo_>	 andre__, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader seems not to allow it
[12:05:57] <paolo_>	 how would I load it?
[12:09:52] <MatmaRex>	 paolo_: the old-fashioned way, put a <script> tag somewhere in the <head>
[12:10:14] <andre__>	 ah, we talk about RL...
[12:10:39] <andre__>	 ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Modules says mw.loader.load can load an external script)
[12:10:44] <andre__>	 but dunno
[12:16:20] <paolo_>	 MatmaRex, do you know a way to put it in a transparent way, i.e. so that I don't loose the changes when upgrading mediawiki?
[12:18:04] <MatmaRex>	 paolo_: in your LocalSettings.php, you could write a few lines of code using the 'BeforePageDisplay' hook to call OutputPage::addHeadItem
[12:18:07] <MatmaRex>	 !hook BeforePageDisplay
[12:18:07] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/BeforePageDisplay
[12:18:20] <MatmaRex>	 something like:
[12:18:51] <MatmaRex>	 $wgHooks['BeforePageDisplay'][] = function ( OutputPage &$out, Skin &$skin ) { $out->addHeadItem( '<script src=…>' ); }
[12:34:03] <adeora7_>	 hey .. where can i get links(gerrit) to projects to which tasks belong ... im new to mediawiki ... eg: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105649
[14:48:46] <aharoni>	 Hallo.
[14:49:20] <aharoni>	 Is there a way to write a Lua script and include it in an extension code so it would be usable as a Module / Template?
[14:50:02] <aharoni>	 I see some extensions that have Lua files, but I couldn't figure out how are they used from on-wiki templates.
[14:52:26] <unicodesnowman>	 aharoni, Yes. Have you seen https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto#Usage ?
[14:53:21] <aharoni>	 unicodesnowman: obviously, but isn't that for modules that exist as wiki pages in the Module: space?
[14:54:24] <unicodesnowman>	 aharoni, ah, i think i see what you mean now
[14:56:47] <aharoni>	 unicodesnowman: yeah... I want to create something like a universal template, which will be usable in any wiki in which an extension is installed, but how would I invoke it?
[14:56:51] <aharoni>	 Is it even possible?
[14:58:50] <bluenemo>	 hi guys. I'm getting  PHP Notice:  Uncommitted DB writes (transaction from DatabaseBase::query (LCStoreDB::get)). in /srv/mediawiki/includes/db/Database.php on line 4362  when I'm creating a User _with_ an email address (without it works)
[14:59:15] <unicodesnowman>	 aharoni, probably not the best solution, but maybe just make your extension create the Module: pages?
[15:00:35] <bluenemo>	 I'm running 1.25
[15:04:01] <unicodesnowman>	 bluenemo, (1) do you have any extensions? (2) eek: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58269 maybe try running update.php?
[15:05:27] <bluenemo>	 unicodesnowman, I have a bunch of extensions: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/83f2230d/  and I jus tran update.php, no effect on the problem
[15:08:56] <unicodesnowman>	 bluenemo, maybe do a binary search elimination of non-bundled extensions you have?
[15:09:16] <bluenemo>	 unicodesnowman, sry, I'm not really into MW. How would I do that?
[15:10:34] <unicodesnowman>	 bluenemo, in LocalSettings.php, comment out half of the non-bundled extensions (ie those you manually installed), and then test if the problem still occurs
[15:11:07] <unicodesnowman>	 actually, comment out every extension first
[15:11:56] <unicodesnowman>	 if not, comment out another half of this half; if so, comment out half of the other half; repeat until you've isolated it to 1 extension that seems to be causing this
[15:13:26] <bluenemo>	 unicodesnowman, (I didnt setup the MW Instance) what strings would I look for in the file? So far I dont see anything name-related to the plugins dir
[15:15:14] <bluenemo>	 I have some skins enabled.. comments say they were enabled by default
[15:17:46] <bluenemo>	 ah lol I found it. PEAR Mailer package is not installed, so the mailer throws an exception M)
[15:17:55] <bluenemo>	 haha :) thx for your help guys 
[15:18:14] <unicodesnowman>	 that seems like a weird error to throw for that, but glad you've fixed it :)
[15:19:39] <bluenemo>	 it helped to enable all the debug in localsettings, so it just shows in on the mediawiki
[16:09:57] <aharoni>	 in https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%99%D7%97%D7%99%D7%93%D7%94:%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%92%D7%95%D7%9D_%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%9F I am trying to create a URL and output it as a string
[16:10:14] <aharoni>	 towards the end, in this.getCxLink
[16:10:30] <aharoni>	 mw.dumpObject(url) shows a sensible result
[16:10:49] <aharoni>	 but when I try to concatenate it, I get: "attempt to concatenate field 'sourceTitle' (a nil value)."
[16:10:56] <aharoni>	 oops, sorry
[16:11:23] <aharoni>	 I get: attempt to concatenate local 'url' (a table value).
[16:12:07] <aharoni>	 and if I try to do url.tostring(), then I get:
[16:12:11] <aharoni>	 "attempt to call field 'tostring' (a nil value)."
[16:26:01] <Yaron>	 On mediawiki.org, there's a navigation template (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Cargo_navigation) that contains a link, "Other documentation", that's not shown on any of the pages calling that template, like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo.
[16:26:15] <Yaron>	 I assume that's due to the Translate extension in some way.
[16:26:30] <Yaron>	 Is anyone here a mediawiki.org translation administrator, or could otherwise help?
[16:28:44] <juri_>	 what is the prefered method to have a password protected mediawiki instance? as in: no public pages at all, everything requires a password.
[16:43:45] <MatmaRex>	 !access | juri_
[16:43:45] <wm-bot>	 juri_: For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[16:44:14] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages
[16:44:32] <crhylove>	 Good morning.  I'm trying to enable Image upload on a wiki.  I've set it allowed in LocalSettings and also in php, but I don't see where the interface is in the actual wiki?
[16:44:43] <crhylove>	 I did apache2 reload, do I need to do something else?
[16:45:12] <MatmaRex>	 crhylove: there should be a "Upload a file" link in the sidebar, or you can visit Special:Upload directly if you're using a skin that doesn't display that link
[16:46:23] <crhylove>	 Ah, so there is.  I feel pretty dumb now.  LOL
[16:48:31] <crhylove>	 So how would I embed the image in an article now?
[16:50:18] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 crhylove: if you uploaded Stuff.jpg, you put [[File:Stuff.jpg|thumb]]  where you want the image
[16:51:04] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 crhylove: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Syntax
[16:51:35] <crhylove>	 Got it...
[16:51:38] <crhylove>	 Thanks!
[16:53:44] <juri_>	 MatmaRex: enlightening. thanks!
[17:50:51] <FatalNIX>	 Hey guys
[17:51:06] <FatalNIX>	 is anyone aware of an issue with Special:Import?
[17:51:38] <FatalNIX>	 I think it's throwing a php error when I upload an xml because it just gives me a blank page.. I'm going to have to check the errors..
[17:56:11] <NDK|Cloud>	 Try to check the errors and get back to us. I haven't noticed anything with it
[18:30:23] <FatalNIX>	 FOUND it ! :D
[18:30:40] <FatalNIX>	 Fatal error: Class 'XMLReader' not found in /usr/local/www/mediawiki/includes/Import.php on line 54
[18:30:43] <FatalNIX>	 is the message I get
[18:31:02] <FatalNIX>	 is that a PECL class or something I can install or something is broken?
[18:32:01] <FatalNIX>	 looks like it is a pecl package. Funny the installer didn't mention that
[18:32:13] <FatalNIX>	 apparently it's also unmaintained.
[18:34:44] <FatalNIX>	 huh. I am using php 5.6 and xmlreader is not a configure option...
[18:34:46] <NDK|Cloud>	 What version of mediawiki and php so you use
[18:36:45] <FatalNIX>	 mediawiki 1.25.2, php 5.6.13
[18:41:52] <FatalNIX>	 okay. I'm going to force a recompile again of PHP with --enable-xmlreader, should take only a couple mins
[18:44:49] <FatalNIX>	 looks like its working now :)
[18:48:15] <FatalNIX>	  now I just have to screw with scribunto
[18:48:20] <FatalNIX>	 it can't fine Lua
[18:48:23] <FatalNIX>	 find*
[18:49:57] <NDK|Cloud>	 Glad to hear that. I'd be happy to try to sort out scribunto when I get home
[19:10:14] <UA31_>	 How I can subst {{CURRENTDAY}} inside a <ref> </ref> 
[19:17:03] <MatmaRex>	 UA31_: {{subst:#tag:ref|name=foo|{{subst:CURRENTDAY}}}}
[19:17:07] <MatmaRex>	 and yes, that is terrible
[19:51:16] <Jess_>	 I have a question regarding the map widget
[19:51:53] <Jess_>	 I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to display the latitude/longitude of points that I have put on the map. Is that possible?
[19:55:39] <Jess_>	 Does anybody know if it is possible to display the latitude/longitude of points that you have placed on the map? I am embedding a widget on our website, but none of my points show their coordinates.
[20:46:38] <Betacommand>	 !debug
[20:46:38] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging