[05:48:49] <sDrewth>	 question: with mobile output, centred images become left aligned.  Where does that change of formatting occur?
[10:16:46] <eranroz>	  [[[text]]] doesn't work (e.g [<a href="...">text</a>])? Is it a parser bug? I don't want to uglify article with &#91;
[11:17:12] <Rutuja>	  Hi! My name is Rutuja Surve, I am a Computer Science student from BITS Pilani, Goa, India.. I wish to participate in OPW 2015-16.. (outreachy) I read about wiki-media projects and found it interesting.. Could you guide me a bit, regarding how to go about contacting the co-ordinators, etc..How do I contribute?
[11:25:42] <andre__>	 see my reply in #wikimedia-dev :)
[11:34:59] <GlennS>	 I want to prevent caching of category pages (because I have made an extension which displays their contents as a sortable paged table). Does anyone know what the best way would be? I am currently trying to find an appropriate hook.
[15:14:48] <FatalNIX>	 heh
[15:15:08] <FatalNIX>	 Seems like Wikipedia changed their layout over the weekend
[15:15:16] <FatalNIX>	 it's a super bad design, too.
[15:15:23] <FatalNIX>	 I can't focus my eyes on it at all.
[15:17:22] <Glaisher>	 FatalNIX: Link?
[15:17:34] <FatalNIX>	 you want a link to wikipedia?
[15:17:58] <Glaisher>	 I don't know what has changed so I'm asking you to provide a specific link to what has changed.
[15:18:29] <FatalNIX>	 the website layout changed
[15:18:34] <FatalNIX>	 take a look
[15:18:36] <FatalNIX>	 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki
[15:18:45] <FatalNIX>	 (or clear your cache and look)
[15:19:14] <Glaisher>	 It hasn't changed for me?
[15:19:19] <FatalNIX>	 weird.
[15:19:38] <FatalNIX>	 did you clear your cache?
[15:19:43] <Glaisher>	 FatalNIX: Are you sure that you want the mobile site (not the desktop site)?
[15:19:56] <FatalNIX>	 I'm on a desktop..
[15:19:59] <Glaisher>	 Mobile site has been like this always.
[15:20:02] <FatalNIX>	 it just changed on me this morning
[15:20:21] <Glaisher>	 You can view the mobile site on desktops..
[15:20:26] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 i'm guessing someone sent you a mobile link and you didn't notice the domain
[15:20:32] <FatalNIX>	 OH.
[15:20:45] <FatalNIX>	 I just noticed there is an m in my url
[15:20:45] <Glaisher>	 FatalNIX: At the end of the page, you'll see a desktop link.
[15:20:50] <Glaisher>	 Or just use en.wikipedia.org
[15:20:58] <FatalNIX>	 I wonder how the heck that happened
[15:21:00] <Glaisher>	 Yes.
[15:21:06] <FatalNIX>	 I just typed in wikipedia.org/wiki/foobar and it did that
[15:21:08] <FatalNIX>	 weird.
[15:21:23] <FatalNIX>	 wel that makes me feel much better!
[16:13:03] <FatalNIX>	 So this templating stuff looks pretty damn useful
[16:13:48] <FatalNIX>	 I finally got infoboxes working great on my wiki. I wonder how I could use templates for the general layout of the pages themselves too
[16:15:12] <FatalNIX>	 I did get my namespaces set up it seems
[16:15:23] <FatalNIX>	 gotta figure out how to use those..
[16:21:50] <FatalNIX>	 oh cool! so by putting it into a namespace the category sorts by the article not the namespace prefix :D
[19:22:13] <Shrutika>	 If I am applying for IEG, am I eligible to apply for Outreach Round December 2015- March 2016?
[19:23:24] <UserProd>	 I'm getting ht efollowing error when trying to convert my skin to use autoloading
[19:23:25] <UserProd>	 variable @skin-dir is undefined: failed at `port "variables";` /home/....//screen.less on line 6
[20:09:42] <Guest3123>	 Nabend, kurze Frage ich würde gerne gewisse Inhalte von Wiki-Pages meines MediaWikis extern ausgeben, hierzu greife ich direkt auf die Datenbank zu. Leider hab ich damit natürlich den "unformartierten" Text. Gibt es für mein Vorhaben vllt schon eine Extension die ich einfach nicht finde? Oder vllt ne Anleitung für die Funktionen für die Formatierung?
[20:14:34] <Hydrox1de>	 Guest3123: sorry, cannot speak german
[20:14:45] <Hydrox1de>	 I'll try to help anyways
[20:14:50] <Guest3123>	 oh ok sry, wait
[20:14:54] <Guest3123>	 i'll translate
[20:15:28] <Guest3123>	 I want to show some wikipages on my site, only the text of them, so i want to get the text directly from the mysql-database
[20:16:26] <Hydrox1de>	 What kind of website? a blog?
[20:16:34] <Guest3123>	 but its not formatted, ist there an extensions to export automaticlly ?
[20:17:12] <Hydrox1de>	 Do you want it like in an <iframe>? or do you want the article text so you can format it to match the other site?
[20:17:14] <Guest3123>	 I want to usw the wiki only for intern users, but some sort of tutorials i want to show on the mainpage, written by myself
[20:17:45] <Guest3123>	 i want the article text but formatted from wiki, like its in the originalpage, just want to change some colors
[20:18:06] <Guest3123>	 but when i get it from mysql directly its only the clean text ^^
[20:18:53] <Hydrox1de>	 How are you inserting the text onto the website?
[20:18:54] <Guest3123>	 i think the only thing i need is the function who changes the text back, like in the original article
[20:18:59] <saper>	 Guest3123: did you try [[Special:Export]] ?
[20:19:22] <saper>	 ah no, this is "unformatted" as well
[20:19:43] <Guest3123>	 i grab the text directly from the mysql
[20:19:50] <Guest3123>	 in wiki_text
[20:19:53] <Guest3123>	 old_text
[20:19:55] <Vulpix>	 Guest3123: try action=render https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki?action=render
[20:20:24] <Hydrox1de>	 ^
[20:20:32] <Hydrox1de>	 Do you manually insert the text or is there a script?
[20:20:50] <Hydrox1de>	 In which case a script/program could grab the contents of action=render and put it on the page
[20:21:02] <saper>	 there is also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TextExtracts no idea if it works these days
[20:21:26] <Guest3123>	 i want to insert text via mediawiki and show this text, formatted, on my page
[20:22:03] <Guest3123>	 is there no function who renders the text?
[20:22:21] <Guest3123>	 so i can build my own extension? =)
[20:22:41] <saper>	 Guest3123: ^^ action=render
[20:23:13] <saper>	 also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TextExtracts
[20:23:24] <saper>	 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Parsing_wikitext < Guest3123 
[20:25:42] <Guest3123>	 does this work even if the user has no access to the wiki?
[20:26:17] <Hydrox1de>	 hmmm, that is an issue
[20:26:29] <Guest3123>	 thats my problem ^^
[20:26:57] <Guest3123>	 Thats why i want to get the text directly from the database, but now i know what i am searching for
[20:28:55] <Vulpix>	 Guest3123: you can call a maintenance script directly, or look at the code to see how it does it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:GetText.php and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parse.php
[20:29:17] <Katie>	 c: My position on FuzzyBot hasn't really changed.
[20:29:21] <Katie>	 It's weird that it's not flagged as a bot.
[20:31:22] <Guest3123>	 thats not that simply as i tought ^^
[20:46:06] <Guest32621>	 Vulpix: i think Parse.php is not what i am searching for, is there no way i can just copy some functions in my script to format the text back to html? =(
[20:49:55] <Vulpix>	 well, you can combine both scripts
[20:50:11] <Vulpix>	 one gets the text, the other uses the text and converts it to HTML
[20:50:48] <Guest32621>	 and how can i get the formatted text in my script?
[20:53:13] <c>	 Katie: just flag it then? WP:BOLD 
[20:54:31] <Platonides>	 Guest32621, "some functions" would need to end up using lots and lots of code
[20:55:04] <Hydrox1de>	 Well, another option might be running parsoid and having the website grab text from parsoid?
[20:55:09] <Hydrox1de>	 but that would seem kinda excessive
[20:57:21] <Guest32621>	 action=render is exactly what i need, but without access to the site -.-
[21:05:18] <Hydrox1de>	 Guest32621: maybe something on here could help? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers
[21:05:47] <Guest32621>	 if mediawiki just would allow access from localhost =(
[21:06:42] <saper>	 Guest32621: you want to render it on-the-fly on your page with a client-side javascript?
[21:07:01] <saper>	 or server side
[21:07:05] <Guest32621>	 server side
[21:07:48] <saper>	 but the server has no access to the internal wiki?
[21:07:53] <Vulpix>	 > Wants the wiki remain private but... > wants to grab contents of the wiki for public use... I think you're not consistent here
[21:08:17] <saper>	 vulpix: we have new leaks coming :) 
[21:09:31] <Hydrox1de>	 Guest32621: have some kind of shell script that does php getText.php "page title" | php parse.php > text.html or something
[21:09:36] <Hydrox1de>	 and then put text.html onto the page
[21:10:23] <Guest32621>	 the server has access to the internal wiki, but he is not "logged" in xD
[21:11:03] <saper>	 so log her in
[21:11:04] <Guest32621>	 if i use action=render i only geht the screen of the homesite with the "you have to log in" ^^
[21:12:05] <Guest32621>	 how can i log my script in?
[21:12:19] <saper>	 !api
[21:12:20] <wm-bot>	 The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API >. For client libraries in various languages, see < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code >.
[21:12:49] <saper>	 and keep the cookie, it's good for some time
[21:13:29] <Guest32621>	 ok i will have a try
[21:33:47] <cluelessperson>	 I'm trying to use the mediawiki ldap plugin, and the ldap server is not showing any queries
[21:33:59] <cluelessperson>	 but it DOES show queries from a test ldapsearch command
[21:34:09] <cluelessperson>	 nothing in logs indicating a problem
[21:34:18] <cluelessperson>	 just "failed to login" or similar.
[21:36:17] <Hydrox1de>	 sorry, I have no idea how LDAP works
[21:36:36] <Hydrox1de>	 shooting in the dark -- are there ports that have to be set up and are they set up correctly?
[21:37:30] <saper>	 cluelessperson: is ldapsearch working locally or remotely
[21:37:46] <cluelessperson>	 saper, it connects to a remote server
[21:37:59] <saper>	 ldapsearch -H something
[21:38:12] <saper>	 what kind of authentication is used
[21:38:21] <saper>	 basic (-x) or sasl?
[21:39:24] <cluelessperson>	 saper, basic
[21:39:25] <cluelessperson>	 px
[21:39:26] <cluelessperson>	 -x
[21:40:33] <saper>	 seen that? Options will not work if put at the beginning of LocalSettings.php. Please place them at the end of LocalSettings.php
[21:42:17] <saper>	 and try those https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/Configuration_Options#Debugging_options
[21:45:58] <Katie>	 c: Just on mediawiki.org? Seems silly.
[21:46:05] <Katie>	 c: Probably should be fixed in the extension. (o;
[21:46:19] <Katie>	 And/or fixed across all Wikimedia wikis with a global user group, maybe.
[21:46:36] <Katie>	 Katie: Perfect is the enemy of the done.
[21:46:37] <Katie>	 It's true.
[22:15:27] <cluelessperson>	 saper, I don't understand that enough to use it.
[22:18:42] <cluelessperson>	 for example, what is AutoAuthentication?
[22:25:02] <c>	 Katie: all of which require more effort and time when all I wanted was to avoid seeing anything but real people in mw.org RC :P
[23:17:53] <Katie>	 c: Fair enough. I'll take a look in a bit.
[23:26:43] <auvajs>	 hi, what's api parameter for determining a number of pages a user has created?
[23:28:09] <RoanKattouw>	 auvajs: You can't get that from the API directly
[23:28:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Unless you do something like look at all of the user's edits and count the ones that created the page
[23:29:01] <auvajs>	 RoanKattouw: ok