[04:05:01] hello [04:06:38] I installed mediawiki today. It's all working except that the actual address for the site is giving a 404 and the only way to access the wiki is to add the wiki directory at the end, /w/ for the site to come up. [04:07:41] I feel like I'm missing something very simple to fix this but after hours of searching and testing I can't figure out what's wrong. [05:39:21] == how to upload the media? [09:21:47] Heya, I need some help again :P [09:21:58] In the installation process it asked me whether i want users to log in to edit or add new articles [09:22:03] or if it should be open to anybody [09:22:10] can i change that later? [09:22:35] Actually i choosed the wrong thing and wanna change it now :p [09:31:47] anybody knows? [09:33:26] nobody an idea? .p [09:34:48] Xatenev: just change the permissions in LocalSettings.php [09:40:14] I have to add $wgGroupPermissions new or? cloaks [09:41:23] Xatenev: you just have to toggle it true or false for * edit and create [09:41:42] cloaks: well i dont got it yet in my localsettings [09:41:54] so basically i have to add it new in there^^ [09:42:22] Xatenev: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#Changing_group_permissions [09:44:02] cloaks: ok got it, works great [09:44:03] <3 [09:44:29] Xatenev: np [12:33:02] hi there [12:33:14] is there anybody knowing how parsoid / visualeditor work ? [12:33:23] I just can't kink my mediawiki to the parsoid server [12:33:30] it's driving me crazy [12:46:45] emetic: Steps your followed and the error reports would be helpful. [12:46:59] oops. emeric: ^ [12:47:38] I just cannot get rid of that error message : "Error loading data from server: 0: parsoidserver-http: HTTP 0. Would you like to retry?" [12:47:45] whatever the setup I put in place [13:31:36] Reedy, I got the mw-config fixed, how do I upgrade via it like you once said? [14:55:46] I would appreciate some feedback on our wiki project: https://gist.github.com/bananabas/bf42032d2cfacb0ff30d [14:56:08] Especially, do you think it is suitable for MediaWiki? [15:07:42] bananabas, what is "your wiki project" in one sentence? [15:14:49] TLDR ftw [15:16:02] o.o [15:16:08] Good morning everyone. [15:17:50] andre__: Read the first paragraph of the Project Goals in that document. [15:28:46] bananabas: I'm too lazy to click links and so is anybody else. [15:28:49] Pasting it here: [15:28:51] "MEWiki’s main goal is to be an up-to-date source of objective medical information concerning peer-reviewed research, treatment options, and laboratory testing for ME/CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) and related disorders such as fibromyalgia, Lyme and various other fungal/bacterial/viral infections. Information about specialized doctors and clinics is also potentially useful." [15:29:21] bananabas, What do you mean by "suitable for MediaWiki?" [15:29:50] As compared to other wiki systems, like ikiwiki for instance. [15:30:33] Hard to say as that's very high level. [15:30:45] What is high level? [15:30:45] Probably with some extension: Yeah. But I don't know your workflows. [15:30:55] That one sentence I quoted is high level. :) [15:31:09] Yes, wikis can be a source of information. See for example Wikipedia. :) [15:31:51] If you ask for a one sentence description of our project, you are bound to have something which is high level. [15:32:08] If you want details, they are all in the document. [15:32:33] Anyway. I know it works for Wikipedia, but Wikipedia has thousands of volunteers. [15:32:45] Our team will be of the order of 10 people. [15:32:58] Optimistically. [15:34:17] bananabas: I see. How is 10 vs. 10000 people relevant when it comes to the underlying technical platform? [15:34:58] It is. For instance, Wikipedia has enough manpower to revert unproductive edits, while we don't. [15:35:44] bananabas: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs and to some extend https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam come to my mind [15:36:06] Also, the backend administration and upgrades introduce more overhead in MediaWiki compared to other wiki systems. [15:36:07] so what I probably want to say is: If you have specific concerns they are easier to answer. :) [15:36:39] bananabas: How do MediaWiki upgrades create more overhead than in another wiki system? [15:37:00] If you run a MediaWIki LTS version you only have to regularly apply security updates [15:37:12] (which I hope is the very same for other wiki systems) [15:37:58] if other wiki systems don't release security updates I'd either be more concerned, or naively assume they are safer. :P [15:38:19] Well, the other wiki systems that I'm considering store their files as plain text files, for instance. [15:38:50] I consider using a database to be a complication, perhaps justified in the case of projects like Wikipedia due to scaling issues. [15:39:04] But not so justifiable in our case. [16:33:58] It seems mediawiki.org is slow and Warning: The database has been locked for maintenance, so you will not be able to save your edits right now. You may wish to copy and paste your text into a text file and save it for later. [16:34:01] Why is that. [16:34:35] Hi. Questions about Wikimedia website infrastructure are better asked in #wikimedia-tech , with clear steps to reproduce [16:34:46] maybe a slave server is lagging as hell [16:35:52] I see nothing wrong, though https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=dbrepllag&sishowalldb= [16:37:19] Well it seems en.wikimedia.org is lagging meaning slow, And mediawiki.org [16:40:40] en.wikimedia.org doesn't seem to exist [16:42:22] may be caused by the spambots that are currently attacking mediawiki.org [16:44:26] sorry wrong link en.wikipedia.org [16:48:49] phabricator.wikimedia.org is slow now too seems the whole of *.wikimedia.org is being affected including the servers hosting wikipedia. [16:55:33] hi, I just need a simple language selector, like on www.mediawiki.org . [16:56:09] what creates the "other language" box in the mediawiki.org-wiki ? [17:02:35] prometoys: Hey hey! if you refer to the one at the bottom: A bunch of templates, see https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Languages&action=edit [17:02:54] If you are logged in and refer to the one at the top: That's the UniversalLanguageSelector extension [17:08:17] andre__, hey, nice to see you :) - I'm not logged in and refer to the top: http://prometoys.net/downloads/mw.png [17:08:50] prometoys, ah yeah that's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector [17:10:13] do I need whole MLEB to get this, or is ULS enough and I can create simple structure with host:wiki/Page/de host:wiki/Page/en host:wiki/Page/ar .... [17:13:00] prometoys, #mediawiki-i18n might know better, sorry :) [17:13:13] oh wait, I don't think it implies subpages [17:13:16] afaik [17:13:32] the subpages thing is Extension:Translate [17:14:27] Vulpix: thanks, in combination with ULS? [17:14:58] andre__ thanks, trotzdem [17:15:03] heh :) cheers [17:15:11] ULS should be needed for that, I think [17:15:16] *shouldn't [17:15:44] I *think* so too [17:16:41] andre__: how do we call this feature that fancifully slides tabs on top of the content screen? [17:17:07] saper, I'm not sure what you refer to. :) What do I need to do to see what you mean? [17:19:40] andre__: if you make a window narrow, the Edit/Edit Source/History etc. tabs roll toghether [17:19:43] together [17:20:23] if you make it wide, they nicely unroll to expose the full list [17:20:34] I've made it roll and unroll permanently :) [17:21:02] saper, might be your window width, I think I've seen one bug report about that [17:21:27] saper: collapsibleTabs [17:23:03] andre__: that was my second question, I am sure there is a bug report for that already:0 [17:23:08] thx MatmaRex [17:23:38] I think I had https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91690 in mind [17:23:46] andre__: yep at some particular width it cannot decide whether to roll them in or move onto the second row [17:23:55] saper, ah no it's https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71729 [17:27:34] andre__: perfect :) thanks.