[13:46:09] <Steven___>	 Hey there, i was wondering if anyone has the naiad skin in use and got it "really" workin like in the blender wiki ?
[13:54:18] <saper>	 ths one ? http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Skins/Naiad/Mediawiki
[13:55:29] <Steven___>	 yes
[13:56:25] <saper>	 I didn't try
[13:56:48] <PuppyKun>	  /index.php/ o;
[13:56:53] <PuppyKun>	 who broke wikimedia
[13:57:01] <Reedy>	 ?
[13:57:19] <Steven___>	 i got it installed via their svn and everything works but the TreeMenu navigation they have ... drive me nuts
[13:57:55] <Steven___>	 since i love the concept of it i am willed to hire someone to get it workin for me at a reasonable price 
[13:58:21] <Steven___>	 since this place is dedicated for wikimedia i thought im might as here 
[13:58:31] <saper>	 I think it needs to ported to the newest MediaWiki - sure, I can help
[13:59:15] <Steven___>	 nice
[15:51:33] <gaffa>	 Hi! I can't figure out why Firefox does not allow me to add Wikitionary as an OpenSearch engine, but all other mediawiki instances seems to work. The opensearch xml file seems fine.
[15:51:58] <gaffa>	 Anyone have a clue? Or does it work for you?
[15:52:32] <gaffa>	 *Wiktionary
[15:55:12] <nonse_>	 hello
[15:56:03] <nonse_>	 i need to insert a javascript in the header of the standard mediawiki theme
[15:56:47] <nonse_>	 is a simple visit meter
[15:57:11] <Orphengt>	 hi
[15:57:47] <gaffa>	 Never mind. It works! ;)
[15:58:05] <nonse_>	 hi orphen
[15:58:37] <Orphengt>	 I want to add a js script in the head tag of my skin, how you do?
[15:59:27] <Orphengt>	 example: "<script>function hello(){}</script>"
[16:04:12] <Niharika>	 Orphengt: That's not really a MediaWiki specific question. Consider googling it? :)
[16:04:25] <Niharika>	 Or DDGing it. Or Firefoxing it. 
[16:04:35] <Niharika>	 No, not fire foxing. :|
[16:05:47] <Orphengt>	 Niharika: I want to add a "<script>function hello(){}</script>" in the head tag of my skin of the MediaWiki
[16:06:35] <Niharika>	 Orphengt: Firstly, is this your own install of MediaWiki or you just want to do that as a user?
[16:06:40] <saper>	 !resourceloader | Orphengt 
[16:06:40] <wm-bot>	 Orphengt: ResourceLoader is the delivery system for JavaScript/CSS in MediaWiki. First released in MediaWiki 1.17. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers
[16:06:57] <Niharika>	 There you go. Hi saper. 
[16:07:06] <saper>	 Hi Niharika!
[16:07:20] <Orphengt>	 my installation of MediaWiki
[16:08:12] <Niharika>	 Orphengt: saper gave you the relevant links above. If you still can't get it to work, come poke us back again. 
[16:08:38] <Orphengt>	 one moment
[16:12:35] <Orphengt>	 I can not find
[16:15:24] <Orphengt>	 I must add him to VectorTemplate.php?
[18:33:40] <saper>	 !less
[18:33:40] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !adminsettings, !audit, !bleedingedge, !telepathy, !umask, 
[18:33:45] <saper>	 !cachedir
[18:33:50] <saper>	 !install
[18:33:50] <wm-bot>	 Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation>. See also: !download
[18:35:46] <saper>	 is there a complete guide to install mediawiki from git? including composer and stuff
[18:38:00] <saper>	 MatmaRex: "mkdir(): Permission denied in /usr/home/saper/public_html/b/vendor/oyejorge/less.php/lib/Less/Parser.php on line 438" trying to install vector from git on mediawiki git master
[18:38:07] <saper>	 how do I change the cache directory?
[18:38:30] <MatmaRex>	 no idea
[18:38:31] <MatmaRex>	 ori: ^
[18:39:27] <saper>	 is less now mandatory or can I install some skin without less?
[18:39:31] <ori>	 saper: wfTempDir() is probably not writable
[18:41:33] <saper>	 ah cache/tmp
[18:42:05] <legoktm>	 any objections if I move all the pages in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_Development to the correctly capitalized https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_development ?
[18:42:26] <saper>	 it does not exist when pulling from git... is it created by the installer? (I have used the command line one)
[18:44:09] <saper>	 good, got vector working
[18:45:10] <guillom>	 legoktm: Do it! IRC consensus!
[18:49:12] <legoktm>	 ehh wtf pywikibot
[18:49:13] <legoktm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Dynamic_dates&diff=prev&oldid=1914439
[18:56:53] <saper>	 ori: big big thanks, one of my config files set it to cache/tmp ...
[19:11:11] <ori>	 saper: np!
[20:03:29] <PuppyKun>	 (Cannot access the database: Unknown database 'mediawikiwiki' (10.64.16.28))
[20:05:15] <Randomage>	 is the git server not working?
[20:17:37] <PuppyKun>	 Randomage: some git related service has been repeatedly going down. was fixed earlier and then nope
[20:19:21] <PuppyKun>	 Randomage: assumign you mean git.wm.o 
[20:19:26] <PuppyKun>	 10:35:17 AM <icinga-wm> PROBLEM - git.wikimedia.org on antimony is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds
[20:36:35] <andre__>	 Randomage: the Git server is working. What is down is gitblit which provides git.wikimedia.org in a browser.
[20:37:17] <Randomage>	 Gotcha.
[20:49:45] <Randomage>	 That makes things harder tho.
[20:50:36] <Randomage>	 Iḿ trying to develop an extension that redirects odd requests like oddomain.example.com into www.example.com (both point to the wiki, obviously), which hook should I look for?
[20:55:20] <Betacommand>	 Randomage: thats not something mediawiki handles, that would be rewrite rules for the webserver (apache ect._
[20:56:38] <Randomage>	 Wait what?
[20:56:58] <Randomage>	 Isn´t there a very early hook I could latch on to?
[21:03:50] <MatmaRex>	 Randomage: if the request is for oddomain.example.com, then your code running at www.example.com will not even see it.
[21:04:34] <Randomage>	 Yes it does, apache is configured to point everything to a single place.
[21:08:10] <MatmaRex>	 Randomage: in that case i'm not sure what you're trying to do, or what the problem is. it looks like you have everything configured right.
[21:08:34] <MatmaRex>	 oh, you're trying to send out HHTP redirects
[21:09:46] <Randomage>	 I do, and everything also works correctly, but since I have several domain names that have been updated (but are still supported for legacy reasons) I was planning to write an extension to redirect every request to the up-to-date address.
[21:10:53] <MatmaRex>	 i'm not aware of any extension for that, although it should be easy to write. i think people usually do this with rewrite rules, like Betacommand said
[21:11:34] <ori>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104755
[21:11:41] <ori>	 it's awful that we do it with mod_rewrite rules
[21:11:47] <ori>	 "Wait what?" is the correct reaction
[21:11:48] <ori>	 it's 2015
[21:11:56] <ori>	 we should really fix it
[21:13:23] <ori>	 one of the biggest problems with it is that to get a working mediawiki installation, where "working" means "having the url structure i expected when i installed mediawiki", you have to write obscure code for the web server, which can be anything
[21:14:00] <ori>	 so people come here asking for help and what we tell them effectively is "you need to figure that out for yourself, good luck, here are some pointers"
[21:17:49] <legoktm>	 is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Performance_tuning/ko a manually created translation page?
[21:23:10] <MatmaRex>	 ori: but url routing is already in mediawiki.
[21:23:26] <MatmaRex>	 ori: all you need to do is redirect *everything* that comes in to index.php.
[21:23:54] <MatmaRex>	 everything other than existing entry points*
[21:52:41] <somethingsea>	 Hi. I'm trying to link to some YouTube videos, and they are blacklisted as spam:
[21:52:51] <somethingsea>	 http://anarchy.wiki/The_Reality_of_Quantum_Mechanics,_The_Holographic_Universe,_and_Thus_Oneness
[21:53:06] <somethingsea>	 The text you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.  The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/I8xJJYjOH3k The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/GpgGJaQfrgE The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/qtYfz72MmtM The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/0HpDbAoEzj8 Th
[21:56:51] <saper>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist#Setting_the_blacklist <-- somethingsea maybe?
[21:57:31] <saper>	 somethingsea: can you try the full, expanded URL (not youtu.be) instead?
[21:57:39] <MatmaRex>	 somethingsea: looks like you're using this global blacklist: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist
[21:57:40] <MaxSem>	 the default blacklist has youtu.be: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist
[21:57:51] <MatmaRex>	 which blocks youtu.be (but not youtube.com)
[21:57:55] <MaxSem>	 high five, MatmaRex 
[21:58:09] <MatmaRex>	 people complained here already: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist#Unblocking_YouTube.27s_redirection_and_nocookie_domains
[21:58:37] <MaxSem>	 rationale, apparently, is to simplify tracking/blacklisting of youtube links
[22:06:29] <somethingsea>	 Thank you! I'll try that.
[22:09:09] <somethingsea>	 IT WORKED! THANK YOU!!!!
[22:17:35] <somethingsea>	 I saved the text here to http://anarchy.wiki/YouTube_Links_Won%27t_Save_On_Wiki! and linked to it on the original page.
[22:17:38] <somethingsea>	 Is that OK?
[22:21:09] <saper>	 MaxSem: why not allow only noocookie and cut the rest :)
[22:21:31] <MaxSem>	 did I mention yt.be? :P
[22:22:41] <saper>	 somethingsea: maybe wrap it all in <poem>...</poem> tags or something
[22:36:40] <legoktm>	 c: ping?
[22:40:13] <c>	 legoktm: pong
[22:41:34] <legoktm>	 c: Keegan got k-lined for being a bot earlier today (I can confirm he isn't :P), could he be unbanned? he just emailed me about it
[22:42:07] <c>	 was he using ipv6 with digital ocean or linode?
[22:43:16] <legoktm>	 probably, he was on a bouncer
[22:43:29] <legoktm>	 eh, he just emailed me "Nevermind."
[22:43:54] <legoktm>	 c: thanks anyways :)
[22:45:38] <c>	 legoktm: yeah, some people have been "bad" using ipv6 using vps providers who have really bizarre allocation policies and it ends up getting random users hit in the crossfire (usually that's corrected relatively quickly though)