[14:56:03] you can also play with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Eval.php to interact with mediawiki code [14:59:43] Thanks Saper. Is there something more, which I should read/go through for testing and debugging? [15:00:41] wait, an easy task on parser? that must be a mistake :) [15:35:59] i access my mediawiki site from my server it works, i go to other machine it is just plain text my guess is php is missing permission not running etc.... [15:36:35] rwasson99: you mean there is text, but no styles? [15:36:50] correct [15:37:28] which version is this? can you paste your LocalSettings.php somewhere (without passwords and keys, maybe) [15:39:11] 5.4 [15:39:46] paste is 1 line at a time here [15:40:16] rwasson99: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#The_wiki_appears_without_styles_applied_and_images_are_missing [15:40:24] looks like a $wgServer problem [15:40:59] be sure it's not set to localhost [15:42:54] let me try that [15:42:56] tx [16:08:28] i'm having an issue with templates. every template i add, i get "Template loop detected" [16:10:27] so, can anyone help? [20:23:55] s [20:24:09] hello [20:24:14] Hi [20:25:19] I want to create a wiki [20:26:42] Guest7372: Do you have your own webserver? [20:27:09] no [20:28:16] Guest7372: So you have two options: You can either host it yourself (Rent a VPS somewhere. They are generally pretty cheap), and run your wiki entirely yourself, or option b: Find someone who specializes in hosting wikis to host it for you [20:29:28] Guest7372: For option B, see something like http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page [20:31:04] note that option A requires that you have at least basic sysadmin skills and an understanding of how webservers (and common stacks for them) work for whatever OS you wish to run mediawiki on [20:31:34] otherwise you will be ripping out your hair trying to do the simplest things [20:31:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services [20:32:10] you would have to explain to me step by step? after I download MediaWiki, I do what? upload of MediaWiki? [20:32:30] depends on which option you choose [20:32:49] for option A, there is documentation on mediawiki.org [20:33:02] for option B, your hoster should have instructions for their setup [20:33:23] Vulpix: cool. I didn't know that link existed (or there were that many hosts) [20:34:02] or have to first set up MediaWiki? [20:36:03] Guest7372: So, to give you some background [not sure about your background]: All websites on the internet are running on some computer somewhere. So you can either set MediaWiki up yourself on a computer you rent somewhere, or you can get someone else to do that for you [20:38:02] I think the process too complicated of MediaWiki, someone can tell me everything? [20:39:10] Then I suggest you go with a wiki host (e.g. People at http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page (or one of the other hosts) ) [20:39:14] that's much to tell on an IRC channel [20:40:58] My name in www.mediawiki.org is "Please New Wiki" [20:42:38] anyone know why WANObjectCache would be throwing a fatal error? [20:43:00] Betacommand: what is the fatal error? [20:43:33] bye :( [20:43:48] Exception encountered, of type "InvalidArgumentException" [20:44:01] I can pastebin the full traceback if needed [20:44:15] Well, I could give you the stupid answer of something is feeding it an invalid argument ;) [20:44:27] Betacommand: What is $wgMainCacheType set to? [20:44:51] CACHE_NONE [20:46:45] Betacommand: Can you pastebin the exception? [20:47:24] s/exception/traceback [20:47:31] bawolff: fixed it, the extension didnt update like it should have [20:47:43] is there any MediaWiki forum? [20:47:49] oh ok [20:48:12] Guest7372: there's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk [20:48:54] Guest7372: However, asking something like "please explain everything to me" is unlikely to get an answer [20:49:05] More direct and specific questions, are likelier to get answers [20:49:55] thank you [20:50:05] yeah. Generic questions would probably give you generic "RTFM" answers :) [20:53:55] anyone know how to pull, /drop any local changes? [20:54:20] if they're not staged... [20:54:22] I can git stash, but I dont know how to do it recursively [20:54:24] git reset HEAD --hard [20:54:36] you will lose them [20:54:47] Reedy: I dont need them [20:55:40] git stash && git stash drop [20:55:46] Also works for blowing away changes. [21:00:13] I cant seem to get it to work. Im running git submodule update --init [21:00:13] why put into a box and then throw away the box? [21:00:20] if you need it for submodules... [21:00:30] git submodule foreach git reset HEAD --hard [21:00:38] thanks [21:02:14] * Betacommand remembers when updating was easy as svn up [21:02:18] then use git submodule update --init --recursive [21:04:50] Reedy: Putting shit in a container before putting it in the trash is fairly common! [21:05:21] lol [21:50:54] I downloaded the MediaWiki and PHP, i not found 1 exe, [21:51:39] normal? [21:52:31] hello [21:52:45] Hi Guest99326 [21:53:15] If you wish to change your nickname, you can use /nick the_new_name_you_want [21:53:29] Guest99326: Why would it contain an exe? [21:53:50] Guest99326: PHP is an interpreted language. The PHP interpreter runs the MediaWiki code. Normally the web server is set up to automatically interpret php files as needed [21:53:56] A lot of software are shipped in several formats like .tar.gz .tar.bz or .zip, they are archives containing al needed files. [21:55:12] PHP for Windows is shipped either as a .msi installer package (you can doubleclick it and it installs), either as a ZIP archive (uncompress it in c:\php or another place, then follow the install instructions given in INSTALL.txt file or the PHP online manual) [21:55:36] Assuming he didn't accidentally download the php source code [21:56:27] I do not know, never downloaded, I not saw exe, is normal? [21:57:51] PHP must have exe? [21:59:04] or is only PHP files? [22:00:47] hello [22:00:52] ? [22:01:03] Hi. [22:01:07] Guest99326: php on windows usually has a php.exe [22:03:13] thank you. I have downloaded wrong or... [22:04:19] I did not find [22:08:25] what have you downloaded, exactly? [22:09:14] Multiple Files [22:10:08] that's not exact enough to be useful, sorry [22:19:16] please, link of PHP for Windows, latest version [22:21:23] the PHP site has many links, hate it because I get confused [22:23:47] Based on your level of understanding (which I'm basing on the questions your asking), you probably don't even want to download php directly [22:24:16] Guest99326: Try https://www.apachefriends.org/index.html [22:26:26] multiple links, there is confusion [22:27:37] I won't try to install MediaWiki if that's confuse [22:28:52] gets tough, they should put quite large: download latest version for Windows, and ready. [22:39:00] bawolff: is only a file, it is exe, size is 104 MB [22:39:34] so? [22:39:45] presumably you downloaded the installer [22:42:51] the title of the page is: XAMPP + Apache + PHP + MariaDB Perl [22:44:29] I think is an installer of a package [22:45:41] the link is: https://www.apachefriends.org/index.html [22:50:29] weird [23:14:05] the download of PHP for Windows is here? http://windows.php.net/download/ [23:15:14] where I click? I'm confused, are many links [23:18:10] If you don't have any special requirement, take VC11 x86 Non Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:38) [23:18:23] (the zip) [23:18:48] it's the 32 bits version, but you also have below a 64 bits version [23:19:16] for TS/NTS you have the explanation in the left column [23:19:24] "TS refers to multithread capable builds. NTS refers to single thread only builds. Use case for TS binaries involves interaction with a multithreaded SAPI and PHP loaded as a module into a web server. For NTS binaries the widespread use case is interaction with a web server through the FastCGI protocol, utilizing no multithreading (but also for example CLI)." [23:27:47] for those who want to create a wiki [23:28:44] what better version? [23:35:06] I am still in doubt [23:35:28] http://windows.php.net/download/ [23:42:00] 1 Download source code [23.94MB] 2a VC11 x86 Non Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:38) (Zip) 2b VC11 x86 Non Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:38) (Debug Pack) 3a VC11 x86 Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:35) (Zip) 3b VC11 x86 Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:35) (Debug Pack) 4a VC11 x64 Non Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:47) (Zip) 4b VC11 x64 Non Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19:47) (Debug Pack) 5a VC11 x64 Thread Safe (2015-Oct-01 01:19 [23:42:37] which option I choose? [23:43:19] link http://windows.php.net/download [23:43:53] hello [23:46:56] Hi. [23:50:29] For me to create a wiki needs PHP? [23:51:40] the download link PHP for Windows? [23:52:12] hello [23:52:17] hello [23:54:36] Hi. [23:54:50] Guest99326: Installing MediaWiki requires PHP, yes. [23:55:11] A fairly modern version of PHP. Usually 5.3 or newer, I believe. [23:56:23] the link of download? [23:56:36] version for Windows