[04:41:59] hay guyse. I'm trying to make a silly extension right now as a pet project and not getting very far [04:42:31] Thisismyrofl: wait wat... elec? xD [04:42:41] ssshhh [04:42:55] I haven't seen you in ages, sup man [04:42:59] It's Kryy :p [04:43:34] no... no goddamn way. I really want to talk to you man. Can we go to central or somewhere where we can be nondisruptive [04:43:46] Thisismyrofl: sure [04:44:08] I have a knack for hating Wikia, though. :p [06:03:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Variable#Example Suppose I install this. What's the new variable, and what should it output? [13:27:30] Hello, I am new here. Can someone help me how I should for wikimedia? [13:33:39] *contribute for wikimedia? [13:34:00] I am actually trying to apply for GSoc. [13:34:11] Any help would be appreciated [13:59:34] hello everyone [14:00:25] I'm looking to create a wiki that has about 4-5 different types of pages [14:01:17] for example, a page that describes a plant one that describes a farm animal, etc [14:01:58] on the page that describes plants there is specific data to be had like Ph range, Hardiness level, etc. [14:02:55] on the page that describes animals there would be different attributes, such as average time to call, usual inputs, etc [14:03:27] Kartikey: hi [14:03:49] Is there an extension that allows people to create pages of type "plant" with these 20 properties and pages of type "farm animal" with these 12 attributes [14:04:29] Ed__: sounds a bit like you might want SemanticWiki [14:05:26] Hello everyone, I am new here [14:05:47] Kartikey: gsoc ? that's like months away isnt it ? perhaps you mean google code-in ? [14:05:53] Can someone help me for contributing to wikimedia [14:05:57] thedj: it is similar to it, but since the wiki would be open I was looking for something that would estalish the structure so that the information and the structure of the page is defined [14:07:02] perhaps combine with Semantic Forms [14:07:08] thedj: yeah that's true. But since i am a beginner, i assumed it would take me time to learn. [14:07:40] Kartikey: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in_2015 [14:07:53] Kartikey: you always have to start somewhere :) [14:08:39] thedj: that is for pre university [14:10:54] Kartikey: it is, but if you really are starting from scratch, the advice to follow is not that much different actually :) [14:10:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [14:12:06] thedj: looks promissing, let me play with it. Thanks! [14:14:30] Kartikey: my personal advice is, checkout the code, subscribe to wikitech-l, be in IRC and start browsing through phabricator. [14:15:02] then find the easiest bug you can, just to get aquinted with the flow of submitting a patch. [14:15:02] thedj: but how do i actually fix bugs [14:15:24] Kartikey: by learning dozens of other things first [14:15:35] thedj: like? [14:16:08] the community, the etiquette, the proces of submitting a bug, the coding conventions etc. [14:16:27] how to setup a Mediawiki server (not easy in of itself) [14:17:59] We have a list of easy tickets: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/easy/ [14:18:50] thedj: where can i learn that? [14:20:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [14:20:33] ok got it [14:20:40] Thank you very much [14:21:18] sorry, but one more thing. How do i get developer access? [14:21:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [14:22:33] thedj: Do you have any idea how are we assigned mentors in GSoc? [14:24:54] the mentors volunteer for the assignments usually. since students apply for assignments the mentor vs student coupling is a direct effect of the proces usually. [14:25:15] but sometimes things shift. it's not written in stone [14:26:51] ok thanks [15:22:28] thedj: Hi, after some research it looks like cargo + sematinc forms might be the ticket. Thanks!! [15:23:03] Ed__: nice! Good luck with your site :) [15:37:28] is it possible to use a variable set in LocalSettings.php in a skin? [15:38:03] yes [15:39:30] how would you do it? [15:39:38] hi people [15:40:16] at KDE, we use subpage hierarchies in page names, rather than Wikipedia's approach of a flat namespace with disambiguation when necessary [15:40:42] but usually it would be handy to show a friendlier page title [15:41:57] so far I've used $GLOBALS, but I am not sure it's the best way to do it [15:42:26] some people use "= Friendly title =" at the beginning, but that means the intro section is technically empty and the TOC appears at the beginning, also the "real" page name is still displayed above [15:42:39] is it possible to override the displayed page title? [15:49:40] !displaytitle [15:49:40] See . [15:49:44] PovAddict: ^ [15:50:45] looks like wgRestrictDisplayTitle=false would do what I want [15:51:04] but "it breaks the wiki convention that a page's title is its name, and thus can be used for linking to it" gives me pause, that does sound like a useful convention [15:54:12] bittercold: just do it, exactly the same like in an extension? are you trying to and it doesn't work? [15:58:57] and now I wonder if I have access to change mediawiki settings... [15:59:40] You'll generally need ftp/ssh access to teh server [16:00:22] Reedy: yeah but I often have access to KDE servers I didn't know/remember I did :x [16:00:45] Reedy: or I'm granted access to a server due to service X and didn't know Y ran on it too :) [16:03:55] nope I don't [22:23:22] hello [22:23:29] good evening/night [22:23:45] Hello again :). I'm having throuble recreating the books/authors example in Cargo. The tables get created "wiki_cargo__*" but the books form says 'Error: table "Book" not found.' -- Could not get any answers with google. What is the best way to go about this, should I join the semediawiki-user or mediawiki-l mail lists or perhaps something else? [22:23:47] i've got aa problem when i install the last version of mediawiki [22:24:15] it doesn't connect to the db [22:24:27] it keeps saying accessdenied [22:24:52] but i'm sure the username and the password are right cause i can login to the db through the command line [22:25:02] so the problem is the hostname [22:25:22] (which is localhost as i'm setting up a local development environment) [22:25:53] but however what should i do? should i add the port of the db to the host? [22:26:06] i've tried but it doesn't work too.. [22:26:07] softplay: you are using "localhost"? [22:26:14] yes [22:26:37] softplay: were the tables created? [22:26:44] no it stops before [22:26:55] it doesn't even log to the db [22:27:06] it get an accedenied [22:27:13] gets [22:27:26] what could it be? [22:28:02] softplay: did you provide the root id/password for the creation of the db? [22:28:41] softplay: under "User account for installation" [22:29:08] no i provided the id/passphrase of the user with granted privileges on the db [22:29:23] i mean a created a user properly [22:29:37] it's not safe to use the root user isn't it? [22:29:59] i mean [22:30:01] softplay: did you create the empty wiki database [22:30:21] yes [22:30:25] i did [22:30:31] of course [22:31:14] what else should i have done? [22:31:19] softplay: I used root for the "user account for installation" and the wiki_id_or_whatever for "Database account for web access" [22:32:04] i do not have any Database account for web access [22:32:23] and if i would then i would create a user with limited privileges to the db [22:32:52] i mean it's not safe to grant root access to a cms... [22:33:02] it's a cms [22:33:25] is open to the web.. i don't know if i explain myself [22:33:56] DB connection error: Permission denied (localhost). [22:33:56] Check the host, username and password and try again. [22:34:05] there is definetly a problem with the host [22:34:14] it doesn't connect to the host.. [22:34:20] softplay: the installation account and pass do not get persisted in the LocalSettings.php [22:34:37] doesn' they? [22:34:43] r u sure? [22:34:48] let me check one thing then [22:34:58] softplay: there are 2 db accounts, 1 for installation and 1 for running the wiki [22:36:26] you think that [22:36:36] but my problem is a problem of host [22:36:46] not a problem of account [22:36:54] to be specific... [22:42:47] #join wikimedia-dev [22:42:52] oops [22:43:21] no hints clues or ideas right? [22:43:36] i guess it's too late for that.. [22:44:20] well i'm staying connect in case someone finds an aswer [22:44:30] answer [22:44:35] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33599500/access-denied-when-trying-to-connect-to-mysql-installing-mediawiki?noredirect=1#comment54975007_33599500 [22:44:40] just in case [22:55:40] softplay: is the mediawiki dbuser new or an old mariadb account? [22:55:53] it's new [22:56:08] but i've found it could be a permission error [22:56:18] "webserver could not access the socket (directory permissions)" [22:56:36] it could be as i'm accessing the db from root [22:56:57] but the server connects to it from www-data as far as i know [22:57:12] but i don' have ANy idea of how to solve this [22:58:34] so your using root as the dbuser in LocalSettings.php? [23:00:30] no of course i'm not [23:00:41] i've created a specific user [23:00:45] however [23:01:06] i've edited the question on stackoverflow [23:01:19] now i've to go, hope to find an answer tomorrow [23:01:30] see ya guyZ [23:02:56] bye