[04:46:58] <Lor_>	 Question, is there a Magic word for the Revision time? Something like {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} but with only the time?
[04:55:09] <Glaisher>	 You could get that with the #time parser function
[04:55:29] <Glaisher>	 Lor_: {{#time: H:i:s | {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} }} would work, I think
[04:56:44] <Lor_>	 Glaisher, I'll try that. Thanks.
[04:58:06] <Lor_>	 Works perfectly Glaisher :)
[04:58:13] <Glaisher>	 :-)
[07:59:45] <wikiprobs>	 Hello, having issues editing my edits sidebar. Went though all the support suggestions and nothing is helping/working. No matter what my sidebar will not update. 
[07:59:58] <wikiprobs>	 editing my wiki's sidebar*
[08:06:42] <p858snake>	 !cache | wikiprobs 
[08:06:42] <wm-bot>	 wikiprobs: General information about caches can be seen at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache>, for configuration settings see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Cache>
[08:07:07] <wikiprobs>	 I have gone through all teh cache suggestions / settings, they don't help. :(
[14:12:22] <Uncia>	 Hi! =) Anyone around who might help me with a small MW problem?
[14:13:18] <wmat>	 wikiprobs: are you saying the sidebar edits save fine but do not display?
[14:13:32] <wmat>	 Uncia: just ask, you don't need to ask to ask
[14:15:11] <Uncia>	 My problem - I've set up a couple of wikis for personal projects, using a wikifamily/wikifarm setup. However, due to the way wikifamilies use a branching localSettings, it seems to disable the automatic running of jobs (assuming because the maintenance script cannot see which wiki is being pinged) - since it's a small number of wikis that aren't open to the public and won't see much traffic, I'm not concerned with performance overl
[14:15:32] <Uncia>	 But I haven't found any documentation to make the jobs run automatically for a farm setup. Any tips?
[14:19:35] <wmat>	 Uncia: did you add $wgJobRunRate = 0; to each LocalSettings.php?
[14:19:59] <Uncia>	 I did not - I was under the impression that doing so would disable the automatic jobs from running at all?
[14:20:06] <Uncia>	 (hence the rate of 0)
[14:20:41] <wmat>	 that's what this page suggests: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family
[14:21:21] <Uncia>	 I'll try it, just in case.
[14:21:44] <Uncia>	 I have scoured that documentation and what I've found through googling over the last few days fairly thoroughly.
[14:21:46] <Reedy>	 If you do that, you need to make them be run another way
[14:22:08] <Uncia>	 Yeah, that's what I figured.
[14:22:26] <Uncia>	 I do want them to run as they would on a single install - so that it does one job every time you change something.
[14:22:37] <Uncia>	 I just haven't found a way to do that on a wikifamily.
[14:25:20] <wmat>	 could you script the execution of runJobs.php?
[14:25:40] <Uncia>	 I could add it to a cron or similar.
[14:26:05] <Uncia>	 But then it'd be less responsive, as well as running more often as it'd run on a regular timer even if the wiki saw no traffic at all.
[14:26:17] <wmat>	 although other people run wiki families, so I suspect there's a better way
[14:26:35] <Uncia>	 I'd hope so - it's why I came here to ask around. =)
[14:27:33] <wmat>	 you could try asking on the Discussion page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Wiki_family
[14:33:46] <Uncia>	 Will do.
[20:57:27] <stinkbutt>	 On the page https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/Wikipedia the section marked "polling time" has an image followed by text saying "4ms (Default)". My goal is to make that text vertically centered in the image. It is currently center horizontally. What CSS change would work for this?  I have 2 classes that I created: div.mw-tpl-poll , .mw-tpl-poll-clockimg that I can work with. The template that creates those classes is https://w
[20:57:33] <stinkbutt>	 I don't know what to do
[21:01:17] <Vulpix>	 stinkbutt: this seems to work for me: <div style="position: relative; top: -85px;">4ms (Default)</div>
[21:15:19] <stinkbutt>	 Vulpix:Thanks! now it's nice and centered. I take it the best method is to subract the image height then which is 85px for me
[21:15:22] <stinkbutt>	 ?
[21:17:31] <Vulpix>	 actually, you should subtract half the image height to be centered. Still, that will make the top side of the div aligned with the center of the image, but you want the middle of the div to be aligned, so that's not exactly that, you need to add some pixels to be it really centered
[21:17:32] <stinkbutt>	 omg I added a background color which extends the width in black now
[21:19:49] <Chiyo>	 hey, what is puppet?
[21:20:44] <Reedy>	 server config management
[21:21:09] <Chiyo>	 ah, what is it's use with mediawiki?
[21:21:16] <Chiyo>	 ./ is it needed?
[21:54:17] <Chiyo>	 Reedy?
[21:54:35] <Reedy>	 No, you don't need it for a standard install
[21:55:00] <Chiyo>	 what about if you want to set up a wiki farm/family?
[21:56:49] <Reedy>	 Not if you don't want to
[21:57:10] <Chiyo>	 ah ok