[02:49:46] <helloworld_>	 Greetings community! On page https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/wiki/Wikipedia I am having difficulty with the minimum and maximum classes under the Controller Support section. When I float them they appear below the DIV tag that i want the encapsualted in which has a blackish-tan gradient
[02:50:51] <helloworld_>	 How do I fix the css for the classes:.mw-tpl-controllersupport-min and .mw-tpl-controllersupport-max ?
[02:59:25] <helloworld_>	 I ended up using the margin-top property to set it half the negative distance of the text height
[02:59:43] <helloworld_>	 isn't there non- pixel value that can be entered
[02:59:46] <helloworld_>	 that is relative
[02:59:47] <helloworld_>	 ?
[17:05:50] <jarvis_>	 i have hopefully an easy upgrade question. updating from 1.18 to 1.25 and i know there are tables additions and modifications in this update. Currently i have my original wiki replicating to my new host. When i am ready to move production. after i stop replication, i believe all i would need to do is then run the update.php and the needed changes for 1.25 are implemented. I tested this and it appears to work, just trying to make s
[17:08:52] <andre__>	 jarvis_, your text was cut, but basically https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[17:56:59] <Ulfr>	 Halp! I've managed to outsmart myself.
[17:57:41] <Ulfr>	 I have a modification to the top navigation that changes the text and url of the user talk link in the top right on the condition that the user is in a certain group. However I've completely forgotten how I did this, and it doesn't work when the user talk page doesn't exist.
[17:57:54] <Ulfr>	 Does anyone know what I'm talking about and what I played with to make this happen?
[18:00:09] <saper>	 Ulfr: javascript?
[18:00:20] <saper>	 !common.js
[18:00:20] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !javascript, 
[18:00:31] <Ulfr>	 saper: Assumedly so, but I checked common.js and vector.js, no dice :(
[18:00:38] <saper>	 !javascript
[18:00:38] <wm-bot>	 To set up custom javascript on a wiki, edit the page called [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] (NOT a file, a page on your wiki, which is included via <script>) as a sysop. If $wgAllowUserJs is true in LocalSettings.php, you may also edit the /vector.js (assuming your skin is vector) subpage of your userpage. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript
[18:00:48] <saper>	 hm
[18:01:30] <saper>	 if it's js, then browse with ?debug=true and check loaded js
[18:02:04] <saper>	 if it were an extension, then specisl:version would have told you
[18:02:41] <saper>	 if t's a local hack in php/js, just diff sgainst the release you were usng
[18:03:22] <saper>	 otherwise you wrote a backdoor
[18:25:59] <Ulfr>	 It should NOT be this difficult to figure out where I monkeyed with #pt-mytalk
[18:26:01] <Ulfr>	 GRR
[20:06:57] <aelevadoan>	 o/
[20:07:16] <aelevadoan>	 is there a way of enabling imap login in medawiki?
[20:07:20] <aelevadoan>	 or sasl?
[20:07:57] <ori>	 aelevadoan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AuthIMAP
[20:08:12] <aelevadoan>	 thanks ori
[20:08:24] <aelevadoan>	 I was looking at that
[20:08:31] <aelevadoan>	 and I wanted to know if anyone here uses it
[20:09:32] <ori>	 i don't have any first-hand experience, sorry :/
[20:30:23] <apollyon>	 hey, I am a new developer and have some experience with PHP and would like to contribute.
[20:30:45] <apollyon>	 can someone guide me as to where I should start ?
[20:31:09] <mutante>	 apollyon: one way is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
[21:36:36] <Verheyen>	 Hi, I just did a clean install of MediaWiki (1.25.3), now I want to install the VisualEditor, but https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor sais I need an alpha branch? I currently don't have that?
[21:37:45] <Vulpix>	 Verheyen: it depends: The master branch requires alpha builds of MediaWiki, but If you're using the latest stable version of MediaWiki you will need to download the VisualEditor-MediaWiki extension from the ExtensionDistributor page
[21:38:14] <Vulpix>	 that usually applies to any MediaWiki extension
[21:38:43] <Verheyen>	 And https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor is the ExtensionDistributor page?
[21:39:41] <Vulpix>	 I copied the text from that page, the "ExtensionDistributor page" is actually linked there
[21:40:56] <Verheyen>	 Vulpix - Do you think that's all there is to it? Just download it and extract it in the good place? as described at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor?extdist_name=VisualEditor&extdist_version=REL1_25&extdist_submit=
[21:42:13] <Vulpix>	 continue reading until "Setting VisualEditor up"
[21:42:27] <Vulpix>	 well, read the whole page :P
[21:48:26] <Verheyen>	 Thanks Vulpix - I will look into that. Can I ask you a simpler question first; with the current clean install MediaWiki (1.25.3), do you think I already have the cite templates installed?
[21:48:58] <Verheyen>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite sais I should donload and install cite in the " extensions/Cite/ directory of your MediaWiki installation"
[21:49:14] <Verheyen>	 But, there are already files inside such a directory.
[21:50:10] <Vulpix>	 mmm, the Cite extension is indeed already bundled on 1.25 tarballs
[21:50:42] <Verheyen>	 Thanks Vulpix - I tried to add the line wfLoadExtension( 'Cite' ); to the LocalSettings.php
[21:50:46] <Verheyen>	 Now will see if that worked.
[21:51:26] <Verheyen>	 Seemed to have worked just fine!
[21:51:36] <Vulpix>	 :)
[21:51:47] <Verheyen>	 However,
[21:52:00] <Verheyen>	 they only made <ref>...</ref> functioning, now every <ref> instance becomes a footnote
[21:52:15] <Verheyen>	 but the templates  Template:Cite dictionary & Template:Cite web & Template:Cite news, et cetera, are  not working yet.
[21:53:07] <Vulpix>	 MediaWiki doesn't come with them, you'll need to create them or import from Wikipedia (that only if your license is compatible with Wikipedia)
[21:53:42] <Verheyen>	 Also, the cite directory which I downloaded from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite is quite different (contains more files) than the one that came with the MediaWiki installation
[21:53:59] <Vulpix>	 those templates on Wikipedia also use the Scribunto extension, so you'll need to install that extension
[21:55:07] <Vulpix>	 maybe it contains .git directories and other garbage not needed?
[21:55:24] <Verheyen>	 e.g. v
[21:55:25] <Verheyen>	 Gruntfile.js
[21:55:37] <Verheyen>	 O no, sorry
[21:55:44] <Verheyen>	 that is also contained in the other directory
[21:56:08] <Verheyen>	 But: package.json
[21:56:16] <Verheyen>	 and version
[21:56:32] <Verheyen>	 those are not contained in the standard install
[21:56:53] <Vulpix>	 the extension doesn't need those files
[22:16:52] <Verheyen>	 Is there no way to just install all basic functions of Wikipedia into a MediaWiki, as a clean install? Such as standard table css template, references who get grouped with identical content, ... ?