[02:44:05] Hi, Can an awesome person take a peek at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Ssqag3oo3dterr3y and give me suggestions on what may be happening? It regards Sidebar links not appearing. [03:08:32] dkpat, Could there be a prerender? [03:13:12] Where would it come from though? [03:15:17] dkpat, Can you explain what's going on in layman's terms [03:18:21] mildused, I suppose I can try to elaborate a bit further. At some point within the past month, the Sidebar stopped showing the content of MediaWiki:Sidebar, and is instead seemingly showing only default links. This is not a wiki that I typically manage, so I only became aware of the issue recently [03:19:19] I have tried all of the troubleshooting steps that I mentioned in the SupportDesk post I made, with no resolution. [03:19:40] Do your logs provide the last instance mentioned Sidebar was working [03:21:57] I can find no mention of the sidebar in the logs. [03:23:58] Hmm [08:35:14] I work in a group at the university with about 10 people working with knowledge. We use mediawiki as a knowledgebase for our project. We receive or find about 100 newsarticles per day, We keep the url adress. Our problem is how to know which reports we have processed, what the information in the repport means, who is processing it, and what the status of process is, what it updated in mediawiki. With 100 reports every day, that means up to 365X [08:40:42] What is the difference if any between wikimedia on wikimedia.org and wikimedia on bitnami? [09:23:33] I work in a group at the university with about 10 people working with knowledge. We use mediawiki as a knowledgebase for our project. We receive or find about 100 newsarticles per day, We keep the url adress. Our problem is how to know which reports we have processed, what the information in the repport means, who is processing it, and what the status of process is, what it updated in mediawiki. With 100 reports every day, that means up to 365X [09:34:11] jonbhaug1970X: so you have some kind of workflow to process those new entries? [09:35:20] yes there will be a workflow in connection with every article [09:37:19] i also want to keep track over who has read the article too. [09:40:48] that's not something mediawiki can do for you, only webserver logs. [09:53:52] but it i entered the information of the article into mediawiki? is there a possibility there? [09:56:13] you can track progress of the work using mediawiki templates and maybe extensions like Extension:FlaggedRevs (but this one works on a per-revision basis, not per-article). [09:57:18] so the status of a revision can be changed from "new" to "reviewed" to "accepted" to "archived" - you can define those steps [09:57:42] there is a review log facility that says who has changed the status [10:10:12] thanks for the tips: i will check those out. Have a nice weekend! [10:40:58] jonbhaug1970X: enjoy you ride with MediaWiki :) [10:46:12] holy heaven, my dream is reality https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page [10:47:29] jirib: quite popular on wikisource [10:47:57] great, as my use case is exactly digitalization of old text [10:49:11] yep, that's quite good for that [15:01:42] Who decided to screw with the watchlist UI? Not an improvement [15:03:47] Have a look at the git log [15:04:34] Which would be where? [15:08:23] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commits/master [15:11:53] Im back to Oct 29th not seeing any subject that would make that change [15:12:20] Which change are you talking about? [15:12:28] I just noticed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50615#1820584 [15:12:36] Options form at the top of Special:Watchlist needs cleanup [15:14:26] Think thats it, but changing the last X time to a dropdown is rather obnoxious [15:15:30] What was 1 click, is now 3 [15:15:58] Complain on the task then [15:19:37] Reedy in the process of doing so :) [15:21:02] it was announced in tech news, even… [15:26:35] MatmaRex: UI tweaks like that are not obvious in the tech news [15:27:22] Betacommand: well i apologize but i don't think it's possible to make the weekly ten lines of tech news any shorter or simpler. [15:27:57] "The options on Special:Watchlist will look slightly different.", plus a link to the task with screenshots, seems obvious enough to me. [15:29:23] MatmaRex: Look slightly different != triple the needed clicks for basic functionality [15:29:59] Betacommand: = half the page load time needed to change any two options at once [15:32:51] MatmaRex: that might be the case for 1-2 times per day when I change multiple things, but the 10-15 times I only change the timeframe overshadows it. [16:35:10] Any scribunto users here? Trying to get running on 1.25.3 for use with WikiP Template:Infobox. [17:25:23] Hello! [17:25:41] I took a look at a wiki I had installed in May this year. [17:26:04] $wgUseInstantCommons is true, but Commons images don't show up anymore [17:26:10] any idea what to do? [17:27:56] hi kikero [17:28:36] kikero: Commons was recently switched to HTTPS-only and your server might not be dealing with this correctly [17:28:54] kikero: you'll want to upgrade your MW version, or apply a tweak in LocalSettings. see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons#HTTPS [17:30:25] MatmaRex: omg, thanks! [17:31:00] Hmm [17:31:17] I added the LocalSettings code, images still don't show up. [17:31:21] Should I run anything more? [17:32:03] kikero: no idea. there are a few more troubleshooting steps linked on that page. i don't know much about it myself, sorry [17:55:14] can anyone tell me what happened to the pt-br wiki on wikipedia.org? pt is portuguese and pt-br is (or was) brasilian portuguese [17:55:46] racoon: What do you mean? [17:56:16] hi there, I'm getting "cant access database" but all the settings are correct [17:56:21] Was there ever a pt-br.wikipedia.org? [17:57:12] the brizilian portuguese no longer exists on wikipedia.org why. [17:57:28] I also want to install it on my mediawiki project [17:59:05] https://pt.wikipedia.org is portuguese [17:59:25] You can set the interface language pt-r [17:59:28] pt-br [17:59:41] https://pt-br.wikipedia.org which was once a language in Wikipedia is no longer. [17:59:48] When? [18:00:04] checks archive.org :p [18:00:14] Wayback Machine doesn't have that page archived. [18:00:44] racoon: you're getting confused with something else [18:00:47] I don't think such wiki ever existed [18:00:49] racoon: are you sure it's a separate wiki project? maybe it was in an incubator but did not make it to full project? [18:00:59] or just the interface language as Reedy said [18:01:02] ok, you are saying that when i install i no longer look for pt-br but pt-r? [18:01:25] maybe it was a _suggested_ wikipedia [18:01:31] i want my interface to be in brazilian portuguese [18:01:35] but then did not meet the criteria to become one [18:01:49] see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Brazilian_Portuguese_4 and previous attempts [18:01:52] i think from version 1.8 it still existed [18:02:10] racoon: yes, the interface language should be no problem. [18:03:59] so when i install,, there will be an option for pt-r? [18:04:08] Yes [18:05:18] ok thanks a lot. so the language interface exists but the project did not meet criteria to get onto the real wikipedia.org, i get it [18:05:38] is that correct? [18:09:34] racoon: it sounds correct besides "did not meet criteria YET". it has been submitted on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Brazilian_Portuguese_4 and it tells you what is missing .."The community needs to ..." [18:10:23] also see how "final decision" is still greyed out [18:10:41] so if you want it you can try to help make it happen [18:11:27] thank you very much, pt-r will help me know what to install. [18:13:28] does anyone know if there is a better software than AutoWikiBrowser available? Even for pay? [18:22:08] I've yet to find a for-pay MediaWiki anything that is better than the FLOSS counterpart [18:23:03] What's wrong with AWB? [18:43:54] hi there, I'm getting "cant access database" but all the settings are correct [18:53:20] Ports vs sockets? [19:00:31] I don't understand what you mean [20:05:28] Is there any way to get to do word wrapping and not break page width? [22:04:02] hi [22:50:41] I'm having a weird error - when I go to mysite.com/w/ it redirects me to /wiki/, even though I don't have anything telling it to do that yet. [22:52:29] is it possible to create a template that readers can hide easily? [22:52:41] I want people to be able to choose whether to show the template or not [22:52:51] see* [22:57:32] maybe a user setting [22:57:52] is there a way for a template to detect what a user has a particular setting set to? [22:58:25] I don't believe so [22:58:47] unless you code something? [23:30:46] Chiyo: what do you mean? [23:30:52] code a template? [23:31:00] change MedaWiki? [23:57:37] Hey guys, I remember once looking at a web page / microsite that might have been on wmflabs or something but it had a bunch of MediaWiki design guidelines for button colors and whatnot. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, could I please get a link back to that? It was a good page that I can't recall where to find it at. [23:58:27] nvm found it just after I asked that question. http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/