[03:19:33] Query: Should I upgrade my 1.23alpha to 1.23.11, 1.25.3 or 1.26? [03:20:28] (As little maintenance as possible is an advantage.) [03:21:13] 1.23.11 should be the smallest step, depending on how old your version is [03:21:21] Unfortunately there's no newer LTS than 1.23 [04:33:01] So general question as I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this [04:33:41] Just upgraded from 1.24 to 1.26 and when searching I now get a \n at the bottom of the page title matches [04:34:19] Thus breaking the layout https://remywiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&search=beatmania&fulltext=Search [04:34:35] Anyone encountered this before? [04:44:05] Yeah [04:44:09] I think it's already been fixed [04:44:46] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:Legoktm+status:open,n,z [04:44:47] ffs [04:44:53] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/255654/ [04:45:26] welp [04:45:38] surprised there's no patch already for it on the mw website, thanks for that! [04:46:49] It'sa relatively minor issue.. It should make it into the first point release [04:48:05] Fair [04:48:30] I suppose it did only come out the other day anyway [04:50:47] Also any idea on how to setup Elastica/Cirrus? The MW instructions are cryptic as fuck. elasticas install instructions tells you to create a dir in the extensions dir and get a zip of another plugin and put it in there (which doesn't exist) [04:51:55] When following the combined setup of Cirrus/Elastica, Version just whitepages and error logs have a nice undefined function in there [04:59:39] You'll need the composer stuff for it I guess [05:01:04] fun fun fun [05:01:16] so much for "No weird dependencies that make this difficult to install", oh well. [05:03:24] If you use the MW vendor repo, Elastica is already in it [05:08:16] I don't sadly. tbh Might as well go back to Lucene. Nothing was broken with it I guess and I just wanted to modernize [05:09:10] It's easy enough to swap over to [05:09:43] The elasticsearch.yml seems pretty daunting :P [05:10:02] Kinda what's putting me off, unless it's easier than it looks? [06:21:16] Yeah this is really easy, I was just overcomplicating it. Though I'm at a dead end now with this https://corin.s-ul.eu/qgkAdWMR [09:10:33] Hello channel. Could someone please let me know if there is a mailing list for Visual Editor? [09:11:03] Came across this mailing list (https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/) but it doesn't seem be used for the purpose of asking (VE) support questions. [09:49:23] algo: there is no mailing list for support [09:49:50] but you can use wikitext-l to find some visualeditor people without disturbing everyone else [09:51:12] @Nemo_bis: argh. Unfortunately, I've already sent an email exposing the issue I'm having with VE. [09:51:52] @Nemo_bis: also just found out about #mediawiki-visualeditor. Would that be a better channel for my questions? [10:01:49] dunno, most people there are here too [11:07:02] hi, anyone recently get hit with a DoS-like event on their wiki homepage (index)? [11:52:38] hmm, nevermind. Looks like I just had an over-zealous spam poster that slippied through my updated config [13:29:48] Hi [13:30:04] Is there an extension for generating morse code sequences? [16:09:41] Hi [16:09:54] I could really use some help can anyone give me some? [16:10:20] Hi [16:10:24] Im trying to access my wiki externally [16:10:31] from the internet [16:10:43] but I can't even though I forwarded all the port correctly [16:11:23] but when I try to connect it gives me an error [16:11:54] My question is how do I access my Wiki from the internet using my own computer as a web server [16:13:38] CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP? [16:14:16] people do not usually answer very quickly on irc [16:14:22] it depends [16:15:24] yay [16:15:25] Im not a total noob. I can access my wiki on my LAN [16:15:37] sorry, wrong channel [16:15:41] But not from the internet, despite me forwarding my port correctly [16:16:06] ? [16:16:08] maybe I'm using the wrong access address? [16:16:15] What system, what webserver ? [16:16:26] Im using xampp [16:16:32] ... [16:16:38] with the latest mediawiki [16:16:41] ugh, out of the box ß [16:16:42] ? [16:16:44] my own computer is my homeserver [16:16:47] xampp [16:17:10] and you accessing the server(your pc) from you own machine ? [16:17:35] If I remember right, xampp has a standard config that you can't access from the outside [16:18:40] I'm using an iphone, laptop and ipad to see if I can access it. When I type in my machines IP (192.168...etc) I can access them. But when I try to use my external IP address to access them from the same devices I cannot access the website [16:19:12] You are behind a firewall, that is natting. [16:19:27] so...I need to switch off my firewall? [16:19:42] So you need to forward the port on which you are accessing the service. [16:19:49] eh [16:19:53] wait [16:20:12] Yes. I forwarded the port I'm going to use. [16:20:12] you have a router in your home, right ? can you access the management interface ? [16:20:17] and that port is open. [16:20:23] Yes [16:20:51] ok, then. On what virtualhost address is the server listening ? [16:20:54] *:80 [16:20:57] ? [16:21:00] Yes [16:21:05] its 80 [16:21:51] When you try to access from outside, time out or no response ? [16:22:40] It redirects but it times out [16:23:16] tried it with my ipad right now it times out definitely [16:23:27] what do you logs say ? [16:23:31] of apache ? [16:23:37] Ill check [16:23:41] If you are connecting, they should talk [16:24:40] what would i be looking out for? [16:24:44] in the access logs? [16:24:48] yes [16:25:44] cant see anything dont think they are connecting [16:26:10] Am I supposed to be using my External IP to access the site? Just want to confirm [16:26:25] xampp, meaning windows. Are you running skype ? [16:26:28] either way [16:26:52] Yeah, you want to test if you can access from outside, right ? [16:27:16] So you need to test your public IP-Address, or DDNS. [16:27:31] Im running the wiki, and apache, sql and filezilla are all green, meaning the ports are not in conflict with anything. [16:27:36] skype is not running [16:28:36] Good good, the public IP address shows that the port is forwarded. [16:28:44] I think its a connection issue with the firewall perhaps? [16:28:58] Windows. Depends. [16:29:12] You can try to deactivate the firewall first [16:29:23] ...and if that doesn't work? [16:29:38] Check it first. We talk after that. [16:31:21] I checked. [16:31:25] And ? [16:31:26] It's still not connecting [16:31:40] still timing out [16:31:47] And you're 100% sure the port is forwarded? [16:31:49] browser or server ? [16:31:56] browser [16:32:01] ... [16:32:51] Do us a favor [16:32:57] ok [16:33:13] I'm a 100% sure the port is forwarded [16:33:23] change the outside port to something higher than 2048, forward it to your machine port 80 [16:33:32] and check if it's enabled [16:33:48] and then see if there are no firewall rulles on the router [16:33:57] and how do I do that? [16:33:59] If he's running xampp that wont be an issue I don't think. Windows doesn't lock ports <1024 [16:34:13] thats what I thought corin [16:34:20] No, I don't know what ISP he is using and if they block stuff [16:34:23] But do it anyw- [16:34:29] Ohhhh yea there's a point actually [16:35:08] by outside port you mean "external port"? [16:35:22] ConfusedGuy, but you can access the wiki with your other devices. On the local net, right ? [16:35:35] yep :) [16:36:05] PC:80 <=> Router:63229 <=> The Big Internet [16:36:43] Oh hang on [16:36:48] He's as132 which is Talktalk [16:36:55] Talktalk don't block port 80, i used them before. [16:37:05] OH MY GOD IT WORKED!!!! [16:37:08] THANK YOU!!! [16:37:10] Oh [16:37:10] Also, deactivate your firewall and AV software for a moment.......................................... [16:37:12] huh [16:37:27] I don't need to to deactivate the firewall afterall!!! [16:37:31] ... [16:37:35] dude....I LOVE YOU SIMON [16:37:42] Thank you corin as well! [16:37:47] ConfusedGuy, http://wiki.mcneel.com/zoo/window7firewall [16:38:05] np, sorry for wrong advice haha [16:38:06] Hahahaha Im so happy man [16:38:17] I owe you guys! [16:38:21] Ive been at this for 3 hours [16:38:37] tried everything and on my last attempt from here it worked [16:38:42] sweet jesus [16:38:55] I feel like Im having a rush of euphoria lol [16:39:46] Im going to write a guide for mediawiki and credit you guys [16:39:49] Go activate the firewall back on, and only open the needed port [16:40:17] Simon, all I need to do was to change the external port higher than 2048 [16:40:25] I have an feeling that port 80 is already forwarded to something, hence why his new 80 rule wasn't working. [16:40:32] when it redirected to port 80 it worked [16:40:39] Like I'm 99% sure his ISP doesn't block port 80 [16:41:02] The firewall was still on [16:41:06] when I changed the port [16:41:15] meaning that that external port thing was the only problem [16:42:07] But I'll never forget what you guys did for me. Sincerely, thank you! [16:44:04] sure, sure, go back to work [16:45:56] Also I asked last night and didn't get much light shone on the issue. I'm trying to get Elastica/CirrusSearch working with my wiki; trying to modernize from Lucene, but I keep hitting this error https://corin.s-ul.eu/SkUF15KJ [16:46:11] Special:Version also gives me a white page with the same kind of general error in the error logs. [16:46:26] Does anyone know how to recover from this? [16:46:38] !blankpage [16:46:38] A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [16:46:43] gj Katie [16:46:48] I wish I could help you man, but that looks way too advanced for me [16:47:03] I... just posted the error. It's the same roundabout one in the error logs. [16:47:24] There's either a version mismatch [16:47:33] Or something that has been fixed in a newer version, and hasn't been backported [16:48:02] Corin1: What version of MediaWiki? [16:48:07] 1.26 [16:48:18] Both plugins are using the REL1.26 branch too [16:48:52] Already done a composer install/update too [16:49:43] It might be something worth filing a task for [16:51:36] Welp, alright. [16:51:53] i could probably help you narrow it down, but a little busy atm [16:52:39] Would appreciate it if you have time later but fair enough if not [16:52:41] hmm, this might be an easy one though [16:52:57] I should do.. I was up till 5.30am this morning dealing with facebook software [16:53:14] welp [16:54:08] https://corin.s-ul.eu/0Crvoj6T This is from special:version [16:54:30] When CirrusSearch is disabled however it runs just fine so it's definitely to do with Cirrus [16:54:35] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Elastica/blob/REL1_26/ElasticaConnection.php#L46 [16:54:51] The function is publi [16:54:51] c [16:55:07] Should it be private? [16:55:18] Oh [16:55:55] It's complaining it's protected [16:56:41] Yeah [16:57:01] Hm [16:57:12] special version complains about it being an undefined method though so [16:57:35] Oh? [16:57:40] yep [16:57:41] https://corin.s-ul.eu/0Crvoj6T This is from special:version [16:59:36] Can you paste in here line 46? [16:59:55] Yep, same as in the repo [16:59:55] $client = $this->getClient(); [17:00:11] And the method is public, just defined below [17:00:24] Yep [17:00:34] https://corin.s-ul.eu/ZTkCUVqK [17:01:13] Do you get a stack trace with it? [17:01:17] * c eyes Reedy [17:01:26] c: behave. [17:01:43] Reedy: says the phantom ping ;) [17:01:55] Which phantom ping? [17:02:14] brb, gonna go out of the cellar [17:02:20] dunno i got a c [17:02:25] Nope, those two errors are the only ones [17:02:35] No stacks anywhere [17:02:39] $wgShowExceptionDetails does nothing either [17:03:14] Yeah, it's a fatal not an exception [17:03:32] You can work around that... [17:03:46] Might be easier for me to just try enabling the extensions on my dev wiki and seeing how they look [17:04:10] mm, I mean if it means getting hacky with things I don't really mind. [17:05:39] I can't see why it'd be seriously broken, WMF were using REL1_26 until not long aog [17:06:21] master throws a completely different error though that feels like it might be something to do with new 1.27 features perhaps [17:06:32] bagostuff or something along those lines [17:07:00] EmptyBagOStuff, that's it [17:07:32] https://corin.s-ul.eu/Xrqhd2ve [17:09:02] Hmm. So just enabling the 2 extensions on my wiki (git master), and Special:Version works fine [17:09:51] And all on REL1.26? [17:10:18] I mean worst case I'll back everything up and jump to wmf1.27 [17:11:51] I do note that I've not configured any ES servers [17:12:22] Ah. So enabling CirrusSearch breaks my 1.26 wiki too [17:12:30] That's a good start :) [17:12:42] Welp at least it's reproduceable! [17:12:51] And yeah I haven't either [17:12:53] Different error [17:12:58] o [17:13:12] It's not been converted to the new extension loading [17:13:54] [Sun Nov 29 17:13:44.963873 2015] [:error] [pid 20161] [client 10.0.100.13:62577] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method CirrusSearch\\Version::getClient() in /var/www/w/extensions/Elastica/ElasticaConnection.php on line 46 [17:14:00] Ok, so we're on the same page now :) [17:14:03] \o/ [17:14:13] I'm gonna open a task for this in the meantime [17:14:23] Alright, thank you :D [17:14:30] I grealy appreciate this btw [17:14:41] Kinda wanted to upgrade from Lucene for a while >.> [17:14:56] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119837 is the task [17:15:23] c: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CirrusSearch/tree/REL1_26 [17:15:28] This branch is 2 commits ahead, 105 commits behind master. [17:16:16] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CirrusSearch/compare/REL1_26...master [17:16:57] Issue is master throws the BagOStuff error [17:17:15] That's probably just misconfig [17:17:45] hrm lets try again then [17:18:49] REL1_26 should work :P [17:18:52] hi [17:18:53] sorry Im back [17:19:41] after being able to access my own server from a WAN on an iphone my iphone just keeps timing out [17:20:24] Your provider might (for some reason) not allow you to access ports other than 80 and 443 on your phone [17:20:28] Corin can you please help again if possible? [17:22:42] yeah I can't find where it needs config on master for this error, it's in hooks.php so [17:23:05] Assuming it's trying to call to a MW function that doesn't exist [17:25:54] well [17:25:58] at least we found out his timeout issue [17:28:35] Corin1: Found it [17:28:36] Connection::setTimeout( $wgCirrusSearchClientSideSearchTimeout[ 'default' ] ); [17:28:39] That differs from master [17:28:51] Which line? [17:29:09] Oh [17:29:18] hur [17:29:20] extensions/CirrusSearch/includes/Version.php line 47 [17:29:51] let's find out when/where it changed [17:30:27] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CirrusSearch/commit/8d21229c43688eba694d8720fef3f755d3f83203 [17:30:30] * Reedy tries to backport [17:30:47] holy shit that's a big commit [17:31:53] Backport proposed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/255934/ [17:32:16] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/235175/ seems to need backporting too, but doesn't want to to it trivially [17:32:39] Ayyy [17:32:41] Did a checkout 8d21229c43688eba694d8720fef3f755d3f83203 . [17:32:42] Worked [17:32:44] It's loading now [17:33:21] You should need an Elastica patch too [17:33:47] o [17:34:17] for the sake of simplicity, is 1.27 "stable"? [17:34:24] Nope [17:34:29] fuck. welp. [17:34:31] It's under a lot of development, won't be for a while :P [17:34:37] i've gotta go eat... Back in a bit [17:34:43] kk thanks though btw [17:35:08] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/235175/ needs cherry picking/backporting onto REL1_26 of Elastica [17:35:21] might work better on proper git, instead of the git in gerrit [17:35:24] Anyway, will poke later [17:35:38] kk [17:35:43] Thanks for all your help :P [17:35:56] Corin1: It looks like REL1_26 was just branched for Cirrus/Elastica at a bad time [17:36:25] It might be easier to just update the branch in it's entireity to a newer version... [17:36:31] That's stuff to poke later [17:36:41] Alright haha [18:32:32] does anyone can help me to find the cause of the following problem: [18:32:54] I noticed a problem with the data in database of pl ws [18:33:04] take a look at: http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/6238 [18:33:13] 99623 pages in "Uwierzytelniona" category [18:33:27] but... in real there is 99 632 pages -> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Kategoria:Uwierzytelniona [18:33:45] the difference is 9 pages, it is not associated with replication lag [18:34:21] since a long time the difference is constant [18:34:43] zdzislaw: its a known glitch [18:35:23] zdzislaw: let me get you the reason... [18:37:07] zdzislaw: sometimes when pages are deleted cat_pages isnt always updated in the database, which will result in the wrong number of pages listed [18:37:29] however if you actually count the pages both the database and the website will be the same [18:39:29] Betacommand: but the difference is +6 pages, and in this case (problem with delete in cat_pages) should be negative [18:40:02] +9 sorry [18:40:40] zdzislaw: there are some categories where the difference is ~500 ;) [18:41:38] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85527 [18:42:19] (and a few other bugs filed) [18:42:35] or there is only with a message "The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 99,632 total." on https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Kategoria:Uwierzytelniona, but in real there id 99623 pages? [18:43:09] zdzislaw: that uses cat_pages which list 99617 [18:43:35] actual count is: 99582 [18:44:30] zdzislaw: which mean there are 35 pages that have been deleted but not removed from the count [18:48:33] Betacommand: Could you help me create a query on Quarry, which will return the "true/real" number of pages in "Uwierzytelniona"? [18:49:14] zdzislaw: your query does that except for the namespace filter [18:50:17] zdzislaw: SELECT count(cl_from) FROM categorylinks WHERE cl_to='Uwierzytelniona'; [18:51:02] http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/6270 [18:51:05] the same problem [18:51:36] Betacommand: http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/6270 -> 99623 :) [18:52:20] Hi I'm new on this channel.I would like to contribute with mediawiki. I would like to prepare for GSOC 2016.Suggest me How to start. [18:52:34] Betacommand: not 99582 [18:53:00] zdzislaw: its an issue with quarry [18:53:32] zdzislaw: http://pastebin.com/z9HVzX3n [18:53:38] hey dnysdk. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker should be a good reading for a beginner :) [18:54:06] thanks MatmaRex [18:57:30] zdzislaw: looks like a we are hitting different servers [18:57:54] quarry is getting 1001, while im getting 1003 [18:58:43] Corin1: I guess we're lucky that the refactor commit was the first one :P [18:58:56] Betacommand: Could you check the real number now again - I would check whether the difference is constant [18:59:12] Oh? [18:59:19] Ah yeah before the new shit haha [18:59:32] zdzislaw: one of our databases is wrong, im filing a ticket right now [19:00:25] Corin1: Though, I'm not sure I like the look of the various "Fix" commits afterwards :P [19:01:12] mmm and like you said, without Elastica being backported too then it's kinda dead in the water [19:01:45] zdzislaw: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119841 [19:02:15] Corin1: The Elastica commit is already in REL1_26. Which is I guess, why it worked [19:02:17] Betacommand: please check the real number now again - is now 99583? [19:02:23] Corin1: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Elastica/commits/REL1_26 [19:02:52] zdzislaw: Im not sure what the actual real number is [19:03:15] zdzislaw: with the database giving different answers Im not sure which value is correct [19:03:19] huh? that's weird [19:03:27] It died on me with REL1.26 I think [19:03:29] lemme check [19:03:42] Betacommand: ok, but on 1003 is 99583 now? [19:04:06] yeah [19:04:27] zdzislaw: one sec and Ill get you a valid count [19:04:54] Betacommand: thanks [19:06:34] Corin1: Are you on phabricator? [19:07:03] Nope I'm not. And apparently I can't recover my old wikipedia account to login on mw either [19:07:57] zdzislaw: actual count is 99624 [19:09:10] Corin1: I can help with that.. What username? [19:09:15] corin12355 :P [19:09:49] Might be tied to my ancient corin12355@hotmail account which is rip [19:10:25] Betacommand: hm..., thank you [19:10:26] What wikis was the account on? [19:10:26] ! [19:10:26] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [19:10:37] ah, it is on enwiki, found it [19:11:04] zdzislaw: like I said Ive filed a ticket [19:11:08] Yeah en wikipedia [19:11:44] What email do you want the account changing to? Can PM me it if you want [19:12:16] Before you do that [19:12:23] Is the email address corin12355 or corin1235555? [19:12:30] or corin@seion? [19:12:32] Betacommand: yes, I will be subscribe it, thank you again [19:12:37] Should be one of those three [19:12:38] 12355 [19:12:47] Yeah that's old, corin@seion.us if possible then please [19:14:14] hey has anybody managed to get mw working on nginx with short urls? [19:14:30] i've got my wiki mostly working except some strange redirect issues [19:14:31] I think a few people have ;) [19:15:09] well that's encouraging :) would you happen to be one of them? [19:15:09] Works fine on nginx :P [19:16:21] just in case you haven't seen these… [19:16:22] Betacommand: so, it looks that 1001 have correct data [19:16:23] !shorturls [19:16:24] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [19:16:40] could you please check for me, because i am having trouble replicating the issue; does this url redirect to /wiki/Main_page for you? https://psychonautwiki.org [19:17:00] Nope [19:17:04] some of my visitors are complaining of being redirected to wiki/Wiki/Main_page [19:17:08] but it works for me.. [19:17:15] Corin1: Check your email.. You should have a password reset email. Hopefully [19:17:23] PJosepherum, looks like PHP is fucked [19:17:27] You're sending raw PHP [19:17:39] https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki [19:17:42] PJosepherum: i got a 403 Forbidden [19:18:06] https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_page works for me [19:18:13] as does https://psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php [19:18:32] yeah those work [19:18:49] You're just missing a rule or 2 then [19:18:59] here's my conf http://hastebin.com/filavofose.nginx =[ [19:19:05] i'm not sure where i'm going wrong [19:19:22] <3 HTTPS by default :) [19:19:38] hehe [19:19:52] I ended up just using error_page 497 https://$server_name$request_uri; [19:19:59] !rewriteproblems [19:19:59] 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root (see !nullpath); 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. See also !shorturls [19:20:02] >SSLv3 enabled [19:20:08] pls :P [19:20:31]