[00:10:15] <legoktm>	 Just use a RTL language?
[00:24:48] <Repton>	 Hi I need to know how to upgrade my installation through FTP since I don't have any other way. Yes I did read the section on it.
[00:27:00] <Reedy>	 Replace the files
[00:27:02] <Reedy>	 Re run the installer
[00:29:02] <Repton>	 Oh ok so I just delete the old and recreate it with the new?
[08:31:45] <Kartagis>	 hi
[08:32:57] <Kartagis>	 there is this template, {{start date and age}}
[08:33:26] <Kartagis>	 is there also another one we can use to denote the time as well?
[09:04:57] <Kartagis>	 found it
[09:38:01] <loop11>	 hello
[09:38:39] <loop11>	 I would like to implement mediawiki in my workplace, but I have been asked if mediawiki can generate graphs with data taken from tables, is that at all possible?
[10:14:56] <Nemo_bis>	 loop11: tables in what format?
[10:15:29] <Nemo_bis>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph takes tables in JSON format.
[10:15:42] <Nemo_bis>	 SemanticMediaWiki can import tables in CSV etc. and then graph those
[10:15:44] <Nemo_bis>	 etc.
[10:31:09] <loop11>	 Nemo_bis: we would just need to be able to generate embedded graphics taken from data in the wiki itself
[10:31:40] <loop11>	 for example, we have a table with different item names, and a graphic at the top with the different item types
[10:32:06] <loop11>	 or something like that, I am not too bothered about format
[10:32:41] <loop11>	 I had a look at that, but I really just wanted to know if what i would like to do makes sense
[10:32:50] <loop11>	 thank you for your reply by the way :)
[10:49:12] <Nemo_bis>	 loop11: the example you made sounds rather simple and doable with SemanticMediaWiki (or even Cargo?)
[10:49:34] <Nemo_bis>	 You should probably go check SMW docs and maybe test on their own wiki (I don't remember if they have a demo wiki)
[11:07:05] <loop11>	 Nemo_bis: thank you for your help :)
[11:14:11] <loop11>	 brb
[12:03:45] <Fenyx4>	 Hello. I recently updated Mediawiki and the help link on my sidebar broke. I've tried changing it on the sidebar but the change only shows up when I am logged in or not on the main page.
[12:04:15] <Fenyx4>	 I assume it is due to caching... But ?action=purge on the main page isn't fixing it.
[12:04:30] <Fenyx4>	 http://herocopia.com/Main_Page
[12:06:38] <MatmaRex>	 broke how?
[12:07:04] <MatmaRex>	 oh, hmm. i see.
[12:07:24] <MatmaRex>	 weird :o
[12:07:31] <Fenyx4>	 inorite? :)
[12:12:41] <Fenyx4>	 Dangit. Same problem on my other wikis.
[12:27:33] <Fenyx4>	 Maaan... That link also shows up as the help link when creating a new page; http://herocopia.com/index.php?title=Sparky&action=edit&redlink=1
[12:27:39] <Fenyx4>	 There's gotta be a setting for this somewhere...
[12:50:43] <Fenyx4>	 Well, I fixed the creating a new page help link by changing MediaWiki:Helppage. But the Sidebar or Main_Page is still messed up.
[12:52:23] <Fenyx4>	 or -> on
[14:20:02] <sDrewth>	 Krenair:  about?
[16:26:22] <ToraxMalu>	 moin
[16:26:30] <ToraxMalu>	 i need some help for the installation?
[16:29:27] <andre__>	 ToraxMalu, okay?
[16:29:46] <andre__>	 ToraxMalu: if you have a question, ask your question. If someone can answer, someone will answer. Welcome to IRC. :)
[16:30:09] <ToraxMalu>	 well - several uncertain points
[16:30:37] <andre__>	 what have you done/tried so far exactly?
[16:30:38] <ToraxMalu>	 gnu diff3 - for what is that neccessary? or is it neccessary atall?
[16:30:51] <ToraxMalu>	 (local installation, now public service is intended
[16:33:03] <MatmaRex>	 for generating diffs :D but it's not necessary, if it's unavailable, mediawiki will use an internal diff implementation, i think
[16:33:30] <ToraxMalu>	 k
[16:33:48] <ToraxMalu>	 git - what is that for in wiki context?
[17:10:57] <ToraxMalu>	 wow - why is the installation so slow, even it's installed on localhost‽
[17:14:14] <Vulpix>	 mysql is slow in creating tables, it seems. I see lot of disk activity when installing
[17:14:51] <ToraxMalu>	 in a later state does the speed improoving?
[17:15:01] <ToraxMalu>	 or does it keep so slow‽
[17:15:58] <Vulpix>	 once installing things go pretty fast
[17:16:04] <Vulpix>	 *once installed
[17:16:55] <Vulpix>	 you can of course improve it with caching, memcached and even using HHVM
[17:20:22] <ToraxMalu>	 well - after installation it is slow like hell…
[17:20:42] <andre__>	 ToraxMalu: can you clarify what you mean by "git in wiki context"?
[17:20:46] <ToraxMalu>	 even on a local xampp (local host)
[17:20:55] <andre__>	 which version did you install? what does "slow like hell" mean exactly?
[17:21:20] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Performance_tuning
[17:21:24] <ToraxMalu>	 3 sec and more for showing the main page? on localhost?
[17:22:09] <andre__>	 don't know how fast your computer is. hence cannot judge if that's slow or fast for your hardware.
[17:22:10] <ToraxMalu>	 andre__ – i know, that git is a version controll system - but I', curious, for what it is used in the wiki software
[17:22:24] <andre__>	 ToraxMalu, why do you think it's used in the wiki software?
[17:22:35] <ToraxMalu>	 my computer has normaly perfomant hardware and an ssd…
[17:23:02] <ToraxMalu>	 git was mentioned while the installation process
[17:23:46] <andre__>	 A Git repository in Wikimedia Git hosts the codebase of MediaWiki. One way to install MediaWiki is to get its code from Wikimedia Git.
[17:24:00] <andre__>	 (...as any other code based project, I'd say)
[17:25:31] <legoktm>	 !fast
[17:25:31] <wm-bot>	 <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast> <http://mituzas.lt/2007/01/26/mediawiki-performance-tuning/>
[17:25:32] <ToraxMalu>	 k - so git isn't used in mediawiki itself?
[17:25:47] <legoktm>	 Aaron's guide is really quick and makes a big impact
[17:26:36] <ToraxMalu>	 thank you legoktm - that's what I'm looking for :D
[18:55:13] <ananay>	 Is there any way we can send images on IRC
[18:55:24] <darsie>	 ananay: yes
[18:55:25] <darsie>	 ;)
[18:55:30] <ananay>	 nice!
[18:55:31] <ananay>	 how?
[18:55:45] <ananay>	 no, not using imgur, any other way, darsie? :P
[18:55:50] <darsie>	 /dcc send nick
[18:55:52] <darsie>	 or so
[18:56:23] <darsie>	 firewalls may be a problem.
[18:56:28] <ananay>	 I get Unknown command
[18:56:59] <darsie>	 Get a better IRC client.
[18:57:09] <ananay>	 darsie: I'm using LimeChat
[18:57:13] <darsie>	 I know.
[18:57:40] <darsie>	 LimeChat for Mac 2.42
[18:58:08] <darsie>	 did you get my dcc chat request?
[18:58:25] <ananay>	 CTCP-query unknown (DCC CHAT) from darsie : chat 1416658987 46928
[18:58:27] <ananay>	 I got this
[18:58:31] <ananay>	 dcc
[18:58:55] <darsie>	 looks like your client doesn't support dcc.
[18:59:04] <ananay>	 Hmm,
[18:59:11] <ananay>	 Hmm. *
[19:00:31] <darsie>	 You may get better support in #freenode or ##networking
[19:00:47] <darsie>	 or your client support channel.
[19:01:14] <ananay>	 Okay.
[19:01:16] <ananay>	 Thanks.
[19:01:21] <darsie>	 yw
[19:07:28] <darsie>	 ananay: dcc is also only between 2 ppl. direct client connection.
[19:07:49] <ananay>	 oh, okay
[19:08:42] <ananay>	 darsie: Thanks!
[19:08:49] <darsie>	 yw
[19:08:55] <darsie>	 There is ASCII art.
[19:09:08] <darsie>	 And ppl have accidently posted base64 encoded pics.
[19:09:12] <ananay>	 Or we can simply base64 stuff and send it here :P
[19:09:22] <ananay>	 ^^ That co-incidence of thoughts
[19:09:36] <darsie>	 That would be unwelcome flooding in most channels.
[19:09:44] <ananay>	 LOL
[19:10:00] <darsie>	 And decoding would require some manual work.
[19:10:04] <ananay>	 Yeah.
[19:10:57] <ananay>	 I don't really need to transfer files using IRC, I can just use Facebook Messenger to send it to my friends. 
[19:11:10] <ananay>	 I'm just using IRC for Google Code IN.
[19:11:11] <ananay>	 In*
[19:11:20] <darsie>	 Posting a link is more efficient. Image data is not bloated by base64 encoding, it's faster, and only those interested transfer the data, etc.
[19:11:56] <darsie>	 IRC servers have limited bandwidth, too.
[19:12:20] <darsie>	 They might disconnect you for flooding.
[19:13:29] <ananay>	 Hmm.
[19:13:44] <ananay>	 Does the IRC Bot crack up jokes or something?
[19:13:49] <ananay>	 Like the Slack Bot does?
[19:28:57] <PeterR>	 Hello - does anyone know about BUB (tool for uploading Google books to Internet Archive)?
[20:29:39] <skokiaan>	 Wikipedia is a sewer full of bigoted hate propaganda that bans its users based on sexual orientation as a matter of policy, and anyone who knowingly supports such a fascist spigot of vile hate propaganda is a sick individual who is complicit in crimes against humanity.
[20:34:34] <MatmaRex>	 you've got the wrong channel, though.
[20:35:26] <Reedy>	 I know varous Wikimedians are varying sexuality
[20:39:40] <skokiaan>	 Reedy, good for you. Fact remains.
[20:39:48] <Reedy>	 It's not exactly a fact
[20:40:00] <skokiaan>	 Yep.
[20:40:11] <Reedy>	 To quote Wikipedia
[20:40:12] <Reedy>	 {{cn}}
[20:40:47] <skokiaan>	 Are you new or something? Read wikipedia policies for yourself.
[20:41:46] <JD|cloud>	 skokiaan: do you have a question about the MediaWiki software itself? If not, then please leave.
[20:41:47] <skokiaan>	 And read prominent pages on sexuality for yourself.
[20:41:48] <Reedy>	 No, I've been around over a decade
[20:42:03] <skokiaan>	 You leave.
[20:42:37] <Reedy>	 Banning an ipv6 address
[20:42:38] <Reedy>	 lol
[20:43:29] <Reedy>	 What's he even talking about?
[20:43:48] <MatmaRex>	 i always enjoy that brief moment between when somebody +o's themself, and when the kicking happens.
[20:43:49] <JD|cloud>	 don't try to explain what trolls say
[20:44:11] <Reedy>	 I wanted to make a butthurt joke
[20:44:31] <RD>	 There's still time.
[20:46:18] <Reedy>	 RD: JD|cloud: Um, he's being abusive in PM now... How do I get him dealt with?
[20:46:29] <RD>	 you can't 
[20:46:30] <JD|cloud>	 he was to me too
[20:46:32] <JD|cloud>	 just ignore him
[20:46:36] <RD>	 ^
[20:47:08] <RD>	 /ignore for real ignore
[20:48:15] <JD|cloud>	 if others get PM'd by him in such a way, it could be grounds to go to #freenode
[20:48:22] <JD|cloud>	 and flag down a network operator
[20:48:34] <JD|cloud>	 but I don't think that's warranted just yet, since ignoring him seems to be doing its job
[20:49:01] <RD>	 They won't do anything about PMing a few people
[20:49:07] <RD>	 You should know that.
[20:49:22] <JD|cloud>	 by "others" I meant things like PM'ing every single person in here
[20:49:23] <JD|cloud>	 etc.
[20:49:28] <JD|cloud>	 not just a handful
[20:49:53] <RD>	 Just trying to spare them the hell of #freenode.
[20:50:43] <Reedy>	 I'm a Facist apparently
[20:51:01] <RD>	 Yes you are.
[20:51:17] <JD|cloud>	 Reedy; look who's in #wikimedia-dev now
[20:51:26] <Reedy>	 Sigh
[20:53:09] <JD|cloud>	 Reedy: I'm guessing you're hoping to avoid further abusive PM's by not /kicking him there
[20:53:44] <Reedy>	 I don't mind kicking him again
[20:53:57] <RD>	 I just banned him
[20:54:10] <JD|cloud>	 the global ban won't stop him from talking in there
[20:54:16] <RD>	 No shit.
[20:54:22] <JD|cloud>	 hence why I asked
[20:54:34] <RD>	 I'm just letting people know.
[20:56:08] <JD|cloud>	 Reedy: ^
[22:07:48] <p858snake>	 <Reedy> RD: JD|cloud: Um, he's being abusive in PM now... How do I get him dealt with? <#freenode