[00:21:33] <Putti>	 Does content translation currently support translation memories? Or is it solely based on MT + some other things except translation memories?
[03:09:24] <greeter>	 huh, i came here to ask a question but i solved the problem that led to it
[03:10:10] <Krenair>	 :)
[03:11:03] <greeter>	 i did just get another one though. does mediawiki play nice with cloudlfare by any chance?
[03:11:49] <greeter>	 i mean, i just tried to login and it shows my ip as a cloudflare address. i'm not sure that'll be a big deal but i want to check
[03:18:34] <MatmaRex>	 greeter: yes, but it requires some config for MediaWiki to accept X-Forwarded-For headers. (assuming Cloudflare sets these on requests they forward)
[03:19:29] <MatmaRex>	 if it's just your personal wiki, there's no reason to bother. but if you put it behind cloudflare, i assume it's not
[03:20:00] <MatmaRex>	 not sure if this has any proper documentation. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Squid_caching#Configuring_MediaWiki would probably be useful. (these configs are not squid-specific, despite the names)
[03:20:25] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Varnish_caching#Configuring_MediaWiki also
[03:21:13] <MatmaRex>	 oh, huh. we have docs. surprising :D https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CloudFlare#Integration_with_MediaWiki
[03:21:35] <greeter>	 ah, i'll check out that last one
[03:21:47] <greeter>	 it started off as my personal wiki, but yeah, it's been repurposed
[03:23:19] <greeter>	 the server doesn't allow anyone to register new accounts except admins, so that might help things out until i get this done
[03:25:15] <greeter>	 looks like mod_cloudflare will be the easiest way to go
[03:33:39] <greeter>	 great. it worked and it was easy :-) if anyone sees MatmaRex around before i do, i hope they extend my thanks
[05:20:23] <WDebrovskiy>	 BM-2cWweoPBG54YErEaPpWo3gCo9mPfKqvgSb
[06:02:53] <softplay>	 hello
[06:03:22] <softplay>	 i've just installed mediawiki in my local machine for development
[06:03:47] <softplay>	 but i got a problem as i messed up with my server configuration
[06:04:32] <softplay>	 so the index.php/Main_Page is throwing an error (404)
[06:04:47] <softplay>	 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34101837/mediawiki-main-page-not-shown
[06:04:54] <softplay>	 can anyone help?
[06:34:02] <mcint>	 softplay: recommend you give more specifics. If your host/vhost names aren’t sensitive, I’d recommend copying your apache config into the so post. Something you’ve modified will probably be the source of the error, which is all I can say based on what little information is provided. Unless you’re seeing a MediaWiki-404-page it sounds like an apache misconfig. if you committed configurations to source control or installed from a
[06:34:03] <mcint>	 version control repo, you may be able to do a diff to reduce the potential problem space to just those changes.
[06:36:26] <mcint>	 Do more research, read the manual, start again from 0. good luck
[07:24:57] <softplay>	  mcint i'm reading about apache misconf
[07:25:58] <softplay>	 the problem is that the server is serving properly any other page in the document root and there is no trace of error in error_log
[07:26:39] <mcint>	 softplay: fyi I don’t know anything
[07:26:54] <mcint>	 but that is interesting. the one page not loading is the main page
[07:27:06] <softplay>	 so there is probably a misalignment between mediawiki conf and the rootfolder...
[07:27:22] <softplay>	 i'm guessing i'm not sure about it
[07:27:42] <softplay>	 i should know better mediawiki to be sure and i do not :)
[07:28:20] <softplay>	 no well i think the whole wiki is kind f misconfigured
[07:29:08] <softplay>	 the mediawiki mailing list is silent however..
[07:30:05] <mcint>	 so no error in apache or wiki/php logs?
[07:37:17] <softplay>	 exactly
[07:37:26] <softplay>	 mcint BUT
[07:37:53] <softplay>	 i see an entry in the manual (last pharagraph) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Restoring_a_wiki_from_backup#Check_the_configuration_file
[07:38:09] <softplay>	 mediawiki is storing some absolute path in the db
[07:38:24] <softplay>	 s it's probably not working for this reason
[07:38:45] <softplay>	 let's say i should update the db
[07:39:08] <softplay>	 i guess
[07:39:42] <softplay>	 i would be easier o re-install the wiki though
[07:47:13] <mcint>	 look through admin/config pages, there might be a way
[07:48:58] <mcint>	 softplay: so you think the MW_INSTALL_PATH var is defined and (now) incorrect?
[07:49:27] <softplay>	 dunno
[07:49:39] <softplay>	 let me check
[07:50:05] <mcint>	 softplay: (I think that’s not the issue, so nvm)
[09:52:10] <mstvz>	 hi everyone, could somebody tell me the url command to get all properties of the mediawiki as xml?
[09:59:28] <legoktm>	 mstvz: properties?
[10:00:30] <mstvz>	 something like the list of properties in here Special:Properties 
[10:03:49] <legoktm>	 oh, are you using SemanticMediaWiki?
[10:03:56] <legoktm>	 !smw
[10:03:57] <wm-bot>	 SemanticMediaWiki is an awesome extension that lets you connect wiki pages with semantic relations. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki> and <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/>. Mailing lists are available at <http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=147937>
[10:04:04] <legoktm>	 hm
[10:04:31] <legoktm>	 I think their channel is #semantic-mediawiki
[10:08:17] <mrvstz>	 sry i lost the internet connection
[10:10:55] <mrvstz>	 do somebody know the url command to get all properties of every page in swm? like Special:Properties do
[11:35:33] <darthbhyrava>	 I'm trying to add a keyboard shortcut for "add links" as ALT+SHIFT+'j' and decided to learn from a previous patch adding ALT+SHIFT+'g' as a shortcut to get link to Wikidata item.
[11:37:39] <darthbhyrava>	 However, after cloning the Wikibase extension, I can't see the WikibaseClient.i18n.php where the changes were made in the Wikidata item patch, instead I have an 'alias' and a 'magic' .i18n.php files. Where am I going wrong?
[11:42:04] <Reedy>	 messages were moved to json files a long time ago
[11:42:18] <Reedy>	 Presumably the alt + shift + g shortcut is done in JS
[11:49:32] <darthbhyrava>	 Ah, I was looking at an outdated example, then?
[11:51:07] <Reedy>	 Sounds like it, yeah :)
[11:51:28] <Reedy>	 Some extensions would still have a .i18n.php file, but it's just a wrapper, not the actual messages
[12:04:58] <darthbhyrava>	 Thanks @Reedy. In the en.json in Wikibase/client/i18n,  there is a ("accesskey-t-wikibase": "g",) entry, which I'm presuming is the previous shortcut I was looking at. Where is this message used to provide a shortcut?
[14:14:10] <PMZ_>	 Hallo people, I have a question about redlinks. Is anyone here?
[14:15:58] <Vulpix>	 !ask | PMZ_ 
[14:15:58] <wm-bot>	 PMZ_: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[14:17:24] <PMZ_>	 Thank you. So, if we do not have a page, we get the link with command action=edit&redlink=1
[14:17:35] <PMZ_>	 Is it possible to turn off this behaviour?
[14:17:47] <PMZ_>	 I would like to have a link without action=edit.
[14:18:06] <PMZ_>	 This is because I prefer HotCat to add categories to empty pages.
[14:18:38] <PMZ_>	 The general reason for this is like that — I have to make many categories in local wiki, and to group them into other categories,
[14:18:46] <PMZ_>	 that is much easier with HotCat.
[14:21:13] <Vulpix>	 ask HotCat devs to make it work for action=edit, that would be much preferable
[14:21:56] <PMZ_>	 So this default behaviour with action=edit cannot be configured?
[14:22:18] <PMZ_>	 Maybe some hack into php code? I may change it, I just do not know where to change :-)
[14:26:28] <Vulpix>	 isn't HotCat a JavaScript gadget?
[14:38:05] <PMZ_>	 HotCat is really a JS gadget. Anyway, the idea was, is it possible to avoid action=edit in red links?
[14:52:36] <Vulpix>	 only if you know PHP, you could override it implementing the LinkBegin hook: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/LinkBegin
[14:57:27] <PMZ_>	 Is it possible to avoid action=edit in red links?
[15:21:55] <Betacommand>	 !dump
[15:21:55] <wm-bot>	 For information on how to get dumps from Wikimedia Wikis, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps . For a how-to on importing dumps, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps .
[15:32:28] <PMZ_>	 Is it possible to turn off action=edit in red links?
[16:29:43] <PMZ_>	 Is it possible to turn off action=edit in red links?
[17:05:12] <Iniquity>	 hello! :) help! if i use mw.load.loader instead of full script then delay will be big? or nothing change?
[17:21:03] <Reception123>	 PMZ_ : I am not sure but I do not think so
[17:22:24] <PMZ_>	 Maybe via some hack in php?
[17:22:40] <PMZ_>	 I have local mediawiki & may alter it anyhow.
[20:44:31] <Iniquity>	 hello! :) help! if i use mw.load.loader instead of full script then delay will be big? or nothing change?
[20:48:09] <Reedy>	 what do you mean by full script?
[20:48:21] <Reedy>	 but no, mw.load.loader shouldn't introduce a big delay
[21:43:35] <Iniquity>	 @Reedy, thx :) and if i load script by mw.load, and this script load smth by mw.loader, this script will be work in my project?
[21:45:15] <Reedy>	 It should, yeah
[21:46:08] <Iniquity>	  even if the first script from another project ?)
[21:48:11] <Reedy>	 should do
[21:48:28] <Iniquity>	 @Reedy, really thx :)
[21:48:39] <Reedy>	 Best thing to do with these things is try it :)
[21:49:34] <Iniquity>	 ive carried that i will do smth wrong :)
[21:50:06] <Reedy>	 People load scripts from different wikis to save duplication
[21:52:44] <Iniquity>	 if i use mw.loader.load(script1) and in the next stroke i will create some new parameters which overwrite some functions in script1, is it possible? or it will be error?
[21:54:04] <Reedy>	 I guess it depends if load is sync or async
[21:57:53] <Iniquity>	 [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js]]
[21:58:03] <Iniquity>	 for example
[21:58:24] <Merik>	 Hi all
[21:58:31] <Merik>	 Can you help me fix this error: http://nyartcc.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Merik_Nanish
[21:58:40] <Merik>	 The error reads: Error creating thumbnail: /bin/bash: /usr/bin/convert: No such file or directory
[21:59:01] <Iniquity>	 and i write var NavigationBarHide = '[' + expandCaption + ']'; after mw.loader stroke
[21:59:08] <Merik>	 I changed localsettings.php to read            $wgImageMagickCovertCommand = "/usr/local/bin/convert";
[21:59:17] <Iniquity>	 will it overwirte it?
[21:59:18] <Merik>	 but that page still gives me that error (with the old, wrong path)
[21:59:40] <Merik>	 Purged the cache, even edited the page, but still the error with the old wrong path appears. Any advice?
[21:59:51] <Iniquity>	 change 'collapse' to 'expand'
[22:00:04] <Iniquity>	 will it change*
[22:00:50] <Iniquity>	 and the same question for css tables
[22:00:57] <Iniquity>	 :)