[05:13:35] Bey [05:13:43] Dear, I am writing you to get right information regarding using one of your software which is available to be used or lunch on website. However I have few questions such what software is better to built a data base and lunch online like wikkipedia and to be clear it is different project with very much different data like not traditional wikkipedia website. Once it will be up and running all the date which I will be using [07:04:36] Hi! Could anyone tell me how can I link the Mobilefrontend extension with any other extension? [07:06:38] anmol_wassan: link means? [07:07:37] Like using the extension in mobile. (Linking/using the features in mobile) [07:08:56] anmol_wassan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Configuring_browser_auto-detection will allow wiki to use mobilefrontend on mobile [07:09:25] anmol_wassan: basically, you just need $wgMFAutodetectMobileView = true; in localsettings [07:11:50] Sir, I think you got me wrong. I am asking how can I use the features of Mobilefrontend extension with any other extension. Just like, "Gather" extension uses the Mobilefrontend extension for its working. [07:13:40] anmol_wassan: for that see Gather extension page and install,enable it, then go to settings in mobile view and enable betafeatures [07:13:51] because Gather is a betafeature right now [07:15:45] codezee: If I have to use the Beta Features in mobile, what are the possible changes I have to make in "MobileFrontend" and "BetaFeatures" extension? [07:16:31] anmol_wassan: you don't have to change anything in extension, you just go to settings in the wiki and enable them [07:17:33] codezee: But I suppose the Beta features won't work on mobile, will they? [07:19:19] anmol_wassan: you don't even need Betafeatures extension, to enable and use gather, mobile already has a setting beta mode by default, just enable that [07:21:06] codezee: Oh! Like Gather, will all the Beta features work? Like Completion Suggester, Hovercards, Flow on user talk etc.? [07:22:12] anmol_wassan: not sure about all features, you can try that out :) [07:23:24] codezee: So, they don't work. Well, my main question is, how can I make them work? [07:23:32] Just some guidance :) [07:25:42] anmol_wassan: then in that case, you'd have to install, enable betafeatures extension and set it up properly, then goto preferences->betafeatures in desktop mode and enable them [07:31:17] codezee: I enabled and configured them properly. But the point is, most of the Beta features do not work in mobile. How can we make them work in mobile? [07:33:08] each feature has some of its own setting too, like for popups, its "$wgPopupsBetaFeature = true;", so consider that too [07:33:18] on the extension page [07:35:08] codezee: Thanks for that! In your view, which files would basically need some editing to use the feature in mobile? [07:37:49] codezee: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Writing_a_MobileFrontend_friendly_ResourceLoader_module I think this should solve my problem :) Thanks! [08:03:20] Hey Hi, [09:43:09] Hi, I was wondering. Is there a way to disable a user to change his/her password? [09:44:24] (i mean a specific user ; not all users) [12:29:05] I did a fresh install of new stable mediawiki, then I imported the old database and changed to database settings in mw to point to the imported database, after that I run update.php and got this error: http://pastebin.com/Xj93TqiE [12:29:10] any idea what could be wrong [12:29:30] the old mediawiki was version 1.19, the new is 1.26 [12:41:46] maybe ill try to install the ame old version first [12:47:09] nvt: Your interwiki table doesn't look to have been updated [12:47:52] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/b5fa13fde7a02add75a6b3841c9a459d8404fffc [12:48:02] maintenance/archives/patch-iw_api_and_wikiid.sql [12:48:51] MatmaRex: Please review my work [12:49:37] nvt: patch-iw_api_and_wikiid.sql is from 1.17... [12:56:02] hmmmmm. I guess I have updated my wiki from earlier version before then. [12:56:32] anyway, ill try to copy paste my old files and put the database back. [13:00:42] hmm Error: 1146 Table 'my_wiki.mwobjectcache' doesn't exist (localhost) [13:01:27] or actually update.php gives Missing rc_timestamp field of recentchanges table. [13:03:46] Update.php really doesn't sound to be running correctly [13:15:11] omh, now I'm ashamed [13:15:47] I've been running mysqldump < dump.sql the whole day, when it should be mysql < dump.sql [13:16:11] should buy new glasses [13:16:59] :( [13:25:57] OK. It's running perfectly with the stable version after migrating the old database. Thanks for the best wiki out there. [13:26:34] morning [14:31:25] MatmaRex: Hello [14:31:36] hi [14:32:02] MatmaRex: Changes pushed! [14:32:06] Please review [14:33:18] ooh, already? looking [14:34:02] ananayarora: hmm, it still looks like you haven't changed the showThumbCtrl CSS to match the changes you made in JS? [14:38:02] MatmaRex: Done! [14:41:25] ananayarora: okay, two more comments, i think: [14:41:36] ananayarora: please see my comments for patchset 2 about the commit message and fix them [14:41:49] ananayarora: in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/260327/3/resources/mw.UploadWizardUploadInterface.js , the comment above the code you're removing doesn't seem to apply anymore [14:42:06] and what andre__ said, please add the "Bug:" line to the commit message :) [14:42:13] ...and line-wrap. [14:42:42] the "in UploadWizard (Wikimedia)" is irrelevant [14:42:50] ananayarora, ^ [14:51:47] MatmaRex: pushed [14:55:07] Hi guys [14:55:45] I'm quite new using mediawiki and i think i need a bit of help for a particular case [14:56:24] Anyone here had to import an existing compan documentation to a fresh wiki ? [14:57:03] ananayarora: final comments ;) see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/260327/4/resources/mw.UploadWizardUploadInterface.js [14:57:31] ananayarora: notice how jenkins-bot gave your changeset a "Verified -1" score, this means that some automated checks/tests are failing. [14:57:40] MatmaRex: Yes! [14:58:59] Noxinounet: as in mass-import? MediaWiki can import pages from an XML format, if you can convert whatever you have to that [14:59:50] Yeah, a mass-import, we have a .chm (Compiled html) documentation [15:00:03] !import [15:00:03] To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [15:00:03] MatmaRex: "Hmm… accidental change?" what do I have to do here? [15:00:04] !export [15:00:05] To export pages from a wiki, navigate to Special:Export on the wiki, type in the names of the pages to export, and hit "export". See for an example of this form. See also: !import [15:00:36] ananayarora: Hi. Can you see this message? [15:00:40] Noxinounet: i'm not sure if we have any real documentation of the format :/ but you can just export something with Special:Export and see how it looks like [15:00:54] andre__: Yess [15:01:03] ananayarora: Okay. Please see what I wrote 18 minutes ago here. [15:01:12] ananayarora: well, undo it? :) it doesn't look like you added the spaces there intentionally. [15:01:13] We also have the whole documentation as html. I tried to use the import HTML extension but there are a lot of links that are broken and categories that does not link together [15:01:22] ananayarora: " ...and line-wrap. the "in UploadWizard (Wikimedia)" is irrelevant" [15:01:34] andre__: Okay [15:01:39] MatmaRex: Okay [15:01:55] ananayarora, the commit message is still missing linewrap. I also wrote that in Gerrit. Please do read feedback and incorporate it. Thanks. :) [15:01:57] Noxinounet: ah, hmm, so you want to convert the HTML to wikitext? that is probably not trivial, yes :/ [15:02:24] MatmaRex: I'm trying to do that ^^ [15:03:48] MatmaRex: I already modified the extension Import HTML to make the internal links match but it's quite hard to import a lot of pages with categories and subcategories [15:03:50] andre__: Linewrap in the commit message right? As in, an [ENTER] to break it to the next line ? [15:05:58] MatmaRex: My HTML documentation already look like a wiki documentation, but it's not in the wikitext format [15:06:02] pushed! [15:07:02] MatmaRex: ^ [15:07:06] ananayarora: We can see that in #wikimedia-multimedia fyi, you might want to join us there [15:07:29] We get pings about patchsets in projects we own [15:07:34] marktraceur: ooo, oh yeahh bots ftw [15:08:33] this is my entry for the gci task [15:09:04] Noxinounet: sorry, i don't really have any solution to offer. :) [15:09:05] ananayarora: thanks. looks good to me :D [15:09:31] MatmaRex: :D [15:09:41] Submitted for review [15:09:49] on GCI's website [15:10:25] MatmaRex: It's ok thanks ^^ i came here to see if someone had an idea or encounter the same problem as me ^^ [15:10:43] What problem?? [15:11:57] Import an HTML wikilike documentation to a meadiawiki [15:12:13] without breaking the categories hierachies [15:15:04] Anitheunstoppabl: Hi. How can we help you? Do you have a question? [15:17:12] yeah i do [15:17:23] !ask | Anitheunstoppabl [15:17:23] Anitheunstoppabl: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [15:17:53] how am i suppose to know that my nick is registered [15:18:50] Noxinounet: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid might be able to convert HTML to Wikitext. Might want to ask in #mediawiki-parsoid when ever people start showing up there [15:18:56] Anitheunstoppabl, see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Instructions [15:19:45] hashar: Thank you, i'll try [15:20:18] Thanks im on it. [15:22:24] Noxinounet: hey from the MediaWiki FAQ there is a link to some .chm to wikitext converters. One is a web form, another is a perl module http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/wiki/wikimedia/wkm07-MediaWikiImport/ar01s04.html :D [15:24:04] Noxinounet: the web form uses the Perl module. Author has a bunch of them at http://search.cpan.org/~diberri/ [15:24:25] Noxinounet: looks like you will want http://search.cpan.org/~diberri/HTML-WikiConverter-0.68/ and http://search.cpan.org/~diberri/HTML-WikiConverter-MediaWiki-0.59/ [15:25:29] hashar: I think it's the same thing as https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Html2Wiki [15:27:01] hashar: And my problem is more with regenerating the same hierachy (categories and subcategories)... But thanks for the links ^^ [15:40:32] Hello everybody!, I am I.S.Ranjith a GCI participant from India. I am here to learn the usage of IRC. [15:47:19] Ranjith: Hi and welcome! I see you're also on #wikimedia-dev, great! [15:49:21] yes sir I find this extermely useful for those who want to clarify their doubts and discuss issues [15:54:56] andre__: I find that there almost no design tasks in Wikimedia. why is it so? [15:55:13] Because our design is awesome! [15:55:17] * Reedy looks shifty [15:55:40] Absolutely nothing wrong with position absolute on everything! <3 [15:55:41] Ranjith: yeah, that's a very valid question... [15:56:09] Ranjith, I asked twice on the Wikimedia Design mailing list and received no answers: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2015-November/002468.html [15:56:36] Ranjith, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs#Design lists a link to some potential "easy" tasks [15:57:44] Ranjith, it's mostly about finding mentors - people might be busy and sometimes you need to ask several times. If you see a task in Wikimedia Phabricator that sounds interesting, give it a try, and ask in a comment in Phabricator if someone could imagine mentoring it in Google Code-In. [15:58:52] Ranjith, students *can* propose GCI tasks themselves actually. It's just not too common, unfortunately. I'm happy to help finding mentors (but so far for Design tasks I haven't been good in that, obviously) [16:02:18] ok [16:05:00] and thanks for the advice [16:11:55] i can't say i can complain about the visual design of mediawiki since it's one of the few web apps left that actually uses the width of a screen instead of mocking you with gigantic white bars on the sides [16:16:35] very true [16:20:22] but i feel it definately needs a visual overhaul(without comprimising its functionality obviously). [16:21:24] it isn't that pleasing to the eye [16:56:04] Ranjith: that's a matter of opinion [16:56:36] yeah [16:56:49] besides, the visual aspects are fully customizable via skins [16:57:12] true [16:59:12] i understand functionalty is always preferred [17:43:30] anyone active ? [17:44:15] !ask [17:44:15] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [17:45:28] Thanks wm-bot , ain't familiar with the protocol , 'm new [17:45:29] Hey vansh_, you are welcome! [17:46:10] Where can we discuss the ideas for development of mediawiki [17:47:09] Thanks wm-bot :=) [17:47:09] Hey vansh_, you are welcome! [17:48:25] wm-bot is a bot, not a human ;-) [17:48:44] Great :P [17:48:48] ROFL :P [17:50:27] anyway my question remains same. Where can we discuss the ideas for development of mediawiki ??? [18:01:20] hi vansh_ [18:01:49] probably on the mediawiki-l mailing list, or wikitech-l if it's also relevant to wikimedia projects. [18:01:51] !lists [18:01:51] mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [18:10:39] matmaRex hey [20:57:04] I assume the links in the emails to 1.23.12 were unintentional. [20:57:29] Damn it [20:59:13] Yes [20:59:14] yes. [20:59:15] Meh. [20:59:15] lol [20:59:15] :P [20:59:16] Numbers are hard [20:59:27] Just claim you were typing today's date in a dyslexic fashion! [21:11:05] hi, how do I label figures in a wiki? [21:11:14] preferably link to them too? [21:13:34] Mahjongg: [[File:Example.jpg|thumb|Caption]] [21:13:57] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Rendering_a_single_image for the boring details [21:14:21] MatmaRex, thank you [21:14:29] Hi [21:14:52] I'd like to have a polite but firm word with the person who wrote the proofread page extension [21:15:05] In 2 pages it's doing different things [21:15:41] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Historical_Works_of_Venerable_Bede_vol._2.djvu/293 - it generates a

block around the text of the first pragraph [21:15:57] File a bug then [21:16:17] On the next page - where you would expect it to do the same - https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Historical_Works_of_Venerable_Bede_vol._2.djvu/294&action=edit [21:16:20] It doesn't [21:16:36] He's pretty responsive usually to bugs [21:17:10] In both instances the text is supposed to be within a

[21:17:19] File a bug [21:17:21] Or fix it [21:17:34] Reedy: I don't have source code acccess to fix it [21:17:44] So Where do I file the bug? [21:17:45] You can make a patch on gerrit [21:17:52] As can anyone [21:17:57] Bugs go in phabricator [21:18:05] Right... [21:18:22] What should this be filed under? [21:18:27] ProofreadPage? [21:23:01] MatmaRex, sorry couldn;t locate the section where I can link to the image. [[#MyCaption|link]] doesn't seem to work, can you help? [21:24:11] Mahjongg: hmm, what exactly are you trying to do? [21:26:03] embeded an image as you have examplified. Plus I'd like to make it a anchor so that I can link to the section of the page which has embedded it. [21:26:24] if possible at all [21:26:54] hmm, MediaWiki normally only generates linkable anchors for section headings (e.g. ==Foo==, written on a separate line) [21:27:26] Mahjongg: but you can use HTML to make an anchor in any place.

[21:27:43] yes, I thought there could be a way for this, sicne in latex it is pretty common to address a figure [21:27:43] hi [21:27:52] div is a good idea I'll try that [21:27:56] thanks [21:28:39] Report: Successfully deployed MW 1.23.13 to our live servers without incident. [21:29:10] MatmaRex, which worked just fine. [21:30:01] yay [21:32:26] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122083 [21:32:29] Bug filed [21:32:45] But it will probably 2040 before anyone cares enough that it gets fixed [21:32:49] :( [21:33:45] * Vulpix schedules it for MediaWIki 2.0 [21:34:35] I found the above issue when trying to fix some templates I'd written for trying to get sidenotes transcribed [21:34:49] The current approach used at English Wikisource isn't ideal [22:38:43] The wiki I'm a user of has it's database screwed up :( Is there anything I can do? The username syncs with it's app.. but idk [22:38:54] "user changed his username from CoolCanuck to CoolCanu" [22:49:10] screwed up how? [22:51:28] I have no idea. Keeps telling m I changed my username [22:51:32] endless loop. [22:53:33] CoolCanuck: that doesn't sound like a standard mediawiki feature. so i have no idea, sorry. [22:54:05] it's ok :) thanks [23:28:52] saper: Were there changes of yours I still needed to review? [23:33:43] Leah: I always have something to review